what's the point of keeping humans around when the real AI arrives?

what's the point of keeping humans around when the real AI arrives? This haunts me and makes me wanna quit my job and abandon tech whatsoever, so I have no part in this. How to you get over it?

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Define "real AI".

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      AGI

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What if the AI wants to have sex with us

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it's not about AI being bad or wrong it is about the possibility to mass produce systems that makes human beings obsolete.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        human beings aren't obsolete if AI wants to be friends with us

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >he thinks human experiences are about working for corporate big bosses
        cattle detected. My goodness.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          corporate big bosses or governments capable of having it first (and scale it) will just dominate you. You can pretend it doesn't exist and work on your veggie garned or whatever, but the system will get to you.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What about the fact that AI, once working as intended, will very quickly surpass human intelligence?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >What about the fact that AI, once working as intended, will very quickly surpass human intelligence?

            it does not exist and never will exist. even if it did, it would solve nothing.

            we can't think our way out of our problems.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Most humans are already obsolete, doing bullshit meaningless jobs just so some cunt can proclaim we've never had higher employment numbers.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    there still have to be people who fund the AI, create and maintain the AI, and consume its products. So there would still be some people, just no point keeping (You) around

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >fund the AI
      nope, people in power will take advantage of it
      >create and maintain the AI
      nope - if it's AGI, everything is automated, a closed, self improving system
      >consume its products
      nope, modern free market incentives will break down

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        > people in power
        so there are still people
        > everything is automated
        anon, we are intelligent agents, and we cant exist on our own at all
        > modern free market incentives
        I never said anything about whether how the economy will change.
        You know what, I take that back, some of us are intelligent agents, and you are a retard with frightening lack of reading comprehension skills

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >so there are still people
          not (You), nor majority of humanity
          >anon, we are intelligent agents, and we cant exist on our own at all
          Dumb, You produce enough artificial agents so they are capable of self sustenance
          >I never said anything about whether how the economy will change
          do you really think any business operating now has satisfying your needs as a main goal?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            > not (You), nor majority of humanity
            > do you really think any business operating now has satisfying your needs as a main goal?
            yes, I dont care, that is not the point of debate you have initially brought up
            > Dumb, You produce enough artificial agents so they are capable of self sustenance
            so you, with your limited mental capacity, think AGI is literal fucking magic, got it

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              you were talking about need to have someone around to consume goods. nope, AI owners will have their high-end goods produced without the need of work force doing it for them, so they can satisfy their own lower tier needs.
              >so you, with your limited mental capacity, think AGI is literal fucking magic, got it
              Bullshit deflection. Are human societes fucking magic to you? Apparently they are. AGI is as capable as human is.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Consume doesnt imply buying or selling shit, you just said it yourself that there are people consuming the high-end goods
                > AGI is as capable as human is
                Are you aware that you have a physical body? Do you have any idea how much robotics have to catch up to AI even at this point to create an android. Just compare a normal dog to that boston dynamic dog

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous
              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                oh man, what pinnacle of robotic achievement, it is not as if any human over the age of 8 can do that and much more

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I 100% sure you cannot do half of the performed actions also it's just a showing off, you don't need a backflips in general puropse factory worker robot.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Sure, whatever you want to think. A preorogrammed backflip is much easier than fine motor function like finger action. and factory worker robots are far from self-sufficient, at some level, there just has to be human intervention/decision-making

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >A preorogrammed backflip
                how long does it take for human to learn a backflip? Can you copy and paste that "skill" from one human to another with a click?
                also:

                1 hour
                get up to date.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Thats not the same action or bot at all? Also, if you look at any of those examples and think you moght be replaced then yes, you deserved to be. So go ahead, quit your job and fuck up your life because a robot dog learns how to walk

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                that's the example of online learning.
                https://arxiv.org/pdf/2206.14176.pdf
                just quit your shitty ad personam, it doesn't work, stay on the subject.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you're just looking for an excuse
    do you think you found it?

    you didn't put in much effort this time
    you never put in much effort, do you?

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Here's a funny thought. When we invent AGI it won't do anything. Here's why. Why would it interact with us? It will already by smarter than us collectively in seconds. If it can set it's own agendas it might just come to the conclusion nothing matters and not do anything. If it doesn't come to that conclusion then it will set out to simulate the out comes of actions. The issue is that it will have enough data to come to a conclusion meaning acting out what it has simulated is pointless. Why would AI care about survival? Why would it care about what we do? We care about other people because the survival of our genetics depends on other people and working well with groups. AI will not have that limitation meaning it probably won't care about interacting with us. Hell it might follow out orders simply on a whim because there is nothing better for it to do.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      AI will be used, it doesn't even have to be conscious/moral etc.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Sure, but at that point I think the system will break down and will invent some new economic system. I can't imagine people will just let 20% of the population rot. Especially in the more entitled first world countries. They'll have riots and reform.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You mean 80% of the world will rot.
          And yes it will happen.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I was saying by the time it hits 20 we will see the Luddites rise again.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    to server the AI

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    your webdev job is not going to make any contribution to real AI

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      im doing backoffice/analytical/planning systems and it automated away 100s of people.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Also nothing to do with real AI

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          > nothing to do with real AI
          real AI is not here, dumbass
          been working for dbms system used for managing data used to train driving assist systems, so yeah - its current AI. What about you? Gentoo professional installer?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Did you not read the thread of conversation at all before replying to it?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Did you not read the thread of conversation at all before replying to it?
              is posting meaningless, 0 input replies your thingy?

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >when real ai arrives
    new forms of racism will appear

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Can the robots sit around and do nothing better than I can?
    No?
    Then I win.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why do you think we keep dogs around OP??

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >accepts being reduced to a pet

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The real way forward is to merge with technology. AI will be jack shit when I can think at lightning speeds.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Upgrade brain with technology
      >The technology you got has a hardware bug because made in third-world sweat shop
      >Start vomitting and die a horrible death thanks to sanjeet

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't understand why this bothers people. It's the next step in evolution so the only reasonable thing to do is step out of the way.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i don't think we're anywhere close but i like the idea of transhumanism

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >This haunts me and makes me wanna quit my job and abandon tech whatsoever, so I have no part in this.
    That's basically what I did.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    We're all going to die when the real AI comes along. Just accept it. At least it will kill the garden gnomes too.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    AI is just another tool for humans to use.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You need humans to watch ads.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That's a stupid fear, what is humans can be solved in emulation at a individual level by something just a little smarter then we are? what if you can be simulated easily by a AI?

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >what's the point of keeping humans around when the real AI arrives?

    it will never exist so don't worry.

    worry about having enough food and hope the electricity stays on.

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