what's the point of keeping humans around when the real AI arrives? This haunts me and makes me wanna quit my job and abandon tech whatsoever, so I have no part in this. How to you get over it?
what's the point of keeping humans around when the real AI arrives?
Define "real AI".
AGI
What if the AI wants to have sex with us
it's not about AI being bad or wrong it is about the possibility to mass produce systems that makes human beings obsolete.
human beings aren't obsolete if AI wants to be friends with us
>he thinks human experiences are about working for corporate big bosses
cattle detected. My goodness.
corporate big bosses or governments capable of having it first (and scale it) will just dominate you. You can pretend it doesn't exist and work on your veggie garned or whatever, but the system will get to you.
What about the fact that AI, once working as intended, will very quickly surpass human intelligence?
>What about the fact that AI, once working as intended, will very quickly surpass human intelligence?
it does not exist and never will exist. even if it did, it would solve nothing.
we can't think our way out of our problems.
Most humans are already obsolete, doing bullshit meaningless jobs just so some cunt can proclaim we've never had higher employment numbers.
there still have to be people who fund the AI, create and maintain the AI, and consume its products. So there would still be some people, just no point keeping (You) around
>fund the AI
nope, people in power will take advantage of it
>create and maintain the AI
nope - if it's AGI, everything is automated, a closed, self improving system
>consume its products
nope, modern free market incentives will break down
> people in power
so there are still people
> everything is automated
anon, we are intelligent agents, and we cant exist on our own at all
> modern free market incentives
I never said anything about whether how the economy will change.
You know what, I take that back, some of us are intelligent agents, and you are a retard with frightening lack of reading comprehension skills
>so there are still people
not (You), nor majority of humanity
>anon, we are intelligent agents, and we cant exist on our own at all
Dumb, You produce enough artificial agents so they are capable of self sustenance
>I never said anything about whether how the economy will change
do you really think any business operating now has satisfying your needs as a main goal?
> not (You), nor majority of humanity
> do you really think any business operating now has satisfying your needs as a main goal?
yes, I dont care, that is not the point of debate you have initially brought up
> Dumb, You produce enough artificial agents so they are capable of self sustenance
so you, with your limited mental capacity, think AGI is literal fucking magic, got it
you were talking about need to have someone around to consume goods. nope, AI owners will have their high-end goods produced without the need of work force doing it for them, so they can satisfy their own lower tier needs.
>so you, with your limited mental capacity, think AGI is literal fucking magic, got it
Bullshit deflection. Are human societes fucking magic to you? Apparently they are. AGI is as capable as human is.
Consume doesnt imply buying or selling shit, you just said it yourself that there are people consuming the high-end goods
> AGI is as capable as human is
Are you aware that you have a physical body? Do you have any idea how much robotics have to catch up to AI even at this point to create an android. Just compare a normal dog to that boston dynamic dog
oh man, what pinnacle of robotic achievement, it is not as if any human over the age of 8 can do that and much more
I 100% sure you cannot do half of the performed actions also it's just a showing off, you don't need a backflips in general puropse factory worker robot.
Sure, whatever you want to think. A preorogrammed backflip is much easier than fine motor function like finger action. and factory worker robots are far from self-sufficient, at some level, there just has to be human intervention/decision-making
>A preorogrammed backflip
how long does it take for human to learn a backflip? Can you copy and paste that "skill" from one human to another with a click?
also:
1 hour
get up to date.
Thats not the same action or bot at all? Also, if you look at any of those examples and think you moght be replaced then yes, you deserved to be. So go ahead, quit your job and fuck up your life because a robot dog learns how to walk
that's the example of online learning.
https://arxiv.org/pdf/2206.14176.pdf
just quit your shitty ad personam, it doesn't work, stay on the subject.
you're just looking for an excuse
do you think you found it?
you didn't put in much effort this time
you never put in much effort, do you?
Here's a funny thought. When we invent AGI it won't do anything. Here's why. Why would it interact with us? It will already by smarter than us collectively in seconds. If it can set it's own agendas it might just come to the conclusion nothing matters and not do anything. If it doesn't come to that conclusion then it will set out to simulate the out comes of actions. The issue is that it will have enough data to come to a conclusion meaning acting out what it has simulated is pointless. Why would AI care about survival? Why would it care about what we do? We care about other people because the survival of our genetics depends on other people and working well with groups. AI will not have that limitation meaning it probably won't care about interacting with us. Hell it might follow out orders simply on a whim because there is nothing better for it to do.
AI will be used, it doesn't even have to be conscious/moral etc.
Sure, but at that point I think the system will break down and will invent some new economic system. I can't imagine people will just let 20% of the population rot. Especially in the more entitled first world countries. They'll have riots and reform.
You mean 80% of the world will rot.
And yes it will happen.
I was saying by the time it hits 20 we will see the Luddites rise again.
to server the AI
your webdev job is not going to make any contribution to real AI
im doing backoffice/analytical/planning systems and it automated away 100s of people.
Also nothing to do with real AI
> nothing to do with real AI
real AI is not here, dumbass
been working for dbms system used for managing data used to train driving assist systems, so yeah - its current AI. What about you? Gentoo professional installer?
Did you not read the thread of conversation at all before replying to it?
>Did you not read the thread of conversation at all before replying to it?
is posting meaningless, 0 input replies your thingy?
>when real ai arrives
new forms of racism will appear
Can the robots sit around and do nothing better than I can?
No?
Then I win.
Why do you think we keep dogs around OP??
>accepts being reduced to a pet
The real way forward is to merge with technology. AI will be jack shit when I can think at lightning speeds.
>Upgrade brain with technology
>The technology you got has a hardware bug because made in third-world sweat shop
>Start vomitting and die a horrible death thanks to sanjeet
I don't understand why this bothers people. It's the next step in evolution so the only reasonable thing to do is step out of the way.
i don't think we're anywhere close but i like the idea of transhumanism
>This haunts me and makes me wanna quit my job and abandon tech whatsoever, so I have no part in this.
That's basically what I did.
We're all going to die when the real AI comes along. Just accept it. At least it will kill the garden gnomes too.
AI is just another tool for humans to use.
You need humans to watch ads.
That's a stupid fear, what is humans can be solved in emulation at a individual level by something just a little smarter then we are? what if you can be simulated easily by a AI?
>what's the point of keeping humans around when the real AI arrives?
it will never exist so don't worry.
worry about having enough food and hope the electricity stays on.