That sounds awful. I have always hated the parts of my jobs that required thinking creatively or not knowing how to solve a problem. I want to just walk in and do exactly what I know needs to be done.
>The actual choice for governments is to provide free shit or get put to a wall with a blindfold over their eyes.
What this is going to look like in reality is you being forced into a part-time minimum wage customer service job (fast food, retail, etc) which will be supplemented with government assistance to buy the cheapest processed food and made in china clothes and products. It will be an utterly miserable and meaningless existence but it will be enough to satisfy a large enough percentage of the population that politicians will never have to fear the scenario you describe.
it's not America, that anon seems to be aware of a system failure on these days.
to put it simple.
-the game tells me I've to work, so I earn money and take care of myself.
-somehow, works became a luxury and you can't get one.
-massive unemployment. the system doesn't provide. the state works as caretaker.
-if that fails, the system has no backup. just die. here is when things get violent.
we are between the last two steps
AI hasnt led to massive unemployment yet though, as of now it's mostly laziness and dependence on their parents, but if need be the average person could get a 40/hr/wk job for $14 flipping burgers and be able to afford rent anywhere in the country, it's just they currently have better options (or as you can see, we as society have slightly destigmatized living at home, so we're shifting our standards or something).
anything construction related, especially renovations, it's extremely difficult for machine to navigate in real physical world.
warehouses, ones processing final steps of supply chain where you need to remove product from pallete or box. Automated systems wreak havoc in small warehouses, outside of juggernauts like of amazon it's extremely difficult to make it work.
cleanup. You can automate vaccuming and mopping a floor, but no machine can handle toilet where some schizo degenerate shat up cieling
law enforcement, you need sentient beings there to claim liability
military, though to a lesser degree
goverment administration, because those never shrink
anything crime related on illegal side
ground level security, despite it being glorified janitor position it's too easy to ignore machine
bodyguards
politicians, can't see people voting computer to parlament
Social stuff Like teaching and kindergarteners. I dont see that getting touched in the nearer future, especially in countries where homeschooling is outlawed.
Unironically menial jobs won't be automated that fast. It's cheaper to hire immigrant to invest in robots.
Meanwhile intellectual jobs could be done in dimension of abstract thinking, never leaving the data-centers. Also intellectual job = higher earnings to be cut.
The burger flipper might actually end up getting replaced. Guys who do minor tasks around the stores, like wiping tables, cleaning random shit up, etc. will probably still be needed.
>anything crime related on illegal side
I disagree.
Once self-driving cars take off you'll see those replace a lot of jobs. Especially hacked self-driving cars.
Just hack yourself a stolen car, use it to deliver a load of goods, and then have it drive and park back where it was taken. If it gets caught it aint your car and there's no driver to get busted, if it doesn't get caught then nobody knows about it.
Similarly if drone delivery ever becomes a real thing you can guarantee some motherfucker gon paint his own lookin like Amazon drone so ain't no bro lookin twice at that mofo deliverin a load to yo projects.
lots will be patrolled by robo doggos, when you get near a car to steal it you'll get shot with a nano scale tracker you cannot remove and the doggos will chase you down to kill you
its a Black Mirror episode, so you know it will be real.
Social stuff Like teaching and kindergarteners. I dont see that getting touched in the nearer future, especially in countries where homeschooling is outlawed.
Physical nonrepetitive labour.
Something like mechanical engineers that fix cars. Plumbers. Electricians. Construction workers.
Those will not get "automated" until you have an actual AGI and body for the robot. A mere LLM can't come and install electricity to your house or fix your car.
Then there are fields that humans will not give to AI that easily, because it's controversial. Things like raising and educating kids or policing the streets.
The fear of AI feels like when everybody insisted that all deliveries were going to be made by drones 10 years ago, ultimately it exists but its use is minimal and for very special use cases because the way it was envisioned was unfeasible for the majority of the people.
All of them. ChatGPT is the new NFT. In a year, all the boomers will be trying to capitalize on it and we'll be cringing. Just like Trump announcing his NFT trading cards a year after anyone stopped giving a fuck.
ChatGPT isn't even good enough to be Google+ yet, and that is basically the cap of what it can achieve anytime soon.
I know a dude at [redacted] in Tokyo who is right now using ChatGPT to write their fucking contracts, SEO shit, and job postings, dude. You're delusional.
That is just copy/paste garbage. Every job description reads the exact fucking same. The same contract you wrote 1000x times already, nobody with a brain wouldn't have automated that long ago.
My company uses AI text content too, it's not a big deal.
AI, like automation, will never take over. It could, as in, it's technically possible, but it won't while capital needs consumers, and thus workers who have the means to consume.
I used to think the same thing, but if you have a UBI with everybody getting a monthly stipend and having abundant free time while most jobs are automated and probably working more efficiently than human workers ever could you would not only have people able to buy products but they would probably be more likely to because they have nothing better to do.
I could see corporations lobbying on behalf of a UBI in the coming decades as more and more of the workforce gets replaced with automation.
A few people here saying things like politicians and teachers are safe, but I don't know about that. The way many of them are behaving lately, I would rather trust a robot than humans.
As someone who's worked as a teacher, AI absolutely could take over the majority of what I did. Teaching these days requires no ingenuity, just the ability to teach what the syllabus dictates. What would be missing is the possibility of a human connection, where, say, a child may feel able to tell their teacher about abuse. But they might just hire pastoral care alongside robot teachers.
3/4 of k-16 education should be automated via KhanAcademy.
For the remainder they could halve class sizes by having the students spend half their time at home. The fact we don't do this makes me think most other jobs actually are safe from AI because humans just won't fucking update their shitty methods for a clearly better alternative.
>possibility of a human connection
AI with artificial audio-video would be enough.
Just TeamSpeak the TeacherAI.
Like whoever cares about the poors anyway.
Aviation. Automation is here and autopilots basically fly planes entirely by themselves but no way the FAA would sign off on one pilot/no pilot cockpits at least for the next 50 years. Plus all operation jobs like dispatch/ATC require human decisions especially ATC
Police officers, firefighters, EMTs. All will be safe for many years to come. Especially police officers because there's 0 way the public wouldn't go batshit over robocops.
>Police officers, firefighters
Actually it would be economically feasible. to invest in robots to do dangerous jobs. If anyone on duty gets hurt it's costly for the country.
what you say is true, i agree. but ai will reduce the amount of plice officers, we allready live in a police state. AI will just make: precrime, more surveillance and more cameras/eyes to watch
maybe AI will be able, only with words, to persue people to go to prision without even needing force(this will ofc not work for most dangerous people)
anyone with lots of money involved
they won't succumb that easy
Any job that requires lots of improvisation, and doing incredibly varied tasks in environments that aren't ideal.
So most blue collar jobs
That sounds awful. I have always hated the parts of my jobs that required thinking creatively or not knowing how to solve a problem. I want to just walk in and do exactly what I know needs to be done.
hookers, unless you like cumming in a lightning port.
Sadly I don't have female genitals.
But stealing is against G*d's will...
Guess again
Doesn't matter. If I can't get a job because of AI, the government has two choices - it gives me free shit or I simply go out and steal it.
America, ladies and gentlemen.
The Catholic Church supports stealing if it is to supply you with lifes necessities.
But that is not the choice governments have.
The actual choice for governments is to provide free shit or get put to a wall with a blindfold over their eyes.
>The actual choice for governments is to provide free shit or get put to a wall with a blindfold over their eyes.
What this is going to look like in reality is you being forced into a part-time minimum wage customer service job (fast food, retail, etc) which will be supplemented with government assistance to buy the cheapest processed food and made in china clothes and products. It will be an utterly miserable and meaningless existence but it will be enough to satisfy a large enough percentage of the population that politicians will never have to fear the scenario you describe.
it's not America, that anon seems to be aware of a system failure on these days.
to put it simple.
-the game tells me I've to work, so I earn money and take care of myself.
-somehow, works became a luxury and you can't get one.
-massive unemployment. the system doesn't provide. the state works as caretaker.
-if that fails, the system has no backup. just die. here is when things get violent.
we are between the last two steps
AI hasnt led to massive unemployment yet though, as of now it's mostly laziness and dependence on their parents, but if need be the average person could get a 40/hr/wk job for $14 flipping burgers and be able to afford rent anywhere in the country, it's just they currently have better options (or as you can see, we as society have slightly destigmatized living at home, so we're shifting our standards or something).
anything construction related, especially renovations, it's extremely difficult for machine to navigate in real physical world.
warehouses, ones processing final steps of supply chain where you need to remove product from pallete or box. Automated systems wreak havoc in small warehouses, outside of juggernauts like of amazon it's extremely difficult to make it work.
cleanup. You can automate vaccuming and mopping a floor, but no machine can handle toilet where some schizo degenerate shat up cieling
law enforcement, you need sentient beings there to claim liability
military, though to a lesser degree
goverment administration, because those never shrink
anything crime related on illegal side
ground level security, despite it being glorified janitor position it's too easy to ignore machine
bodyguards
politicians, can't see people voting computer to parlament
I'm save then, for now.
>You can automate vaccuming and mopping a floor, but no machine can handle toilet where some schizo degenerate shat up cieling
I love this little guy. Suddenly I have high hopes for robotics
I wonder the cost. Guessing $60k starting cost, and $1k/month for conservation.
Your move AI.
Unironically menial jobs won't be automated that fast. It's cheaper to hire immigrant to invest in robots.
Meanwhile intellectual jobs could be done in dimension of abstract thinking, never leaving the data-centers. Also intellectual job = higher earnings to be cut.
the macdonalds employees will have the last laugh
>the macdonalds employees
no, they will be replaced by microwaves and frozen burgers from factory
>he doesn't know
that's already what they serve at fast food and restaurants
I'd rather eat beans than your bug burgers.
t. autist.
The burger flipper might actually end up getting replaced. Guys who do minor tasks around the stores, like wiping tables, cleaning random shit up, etc. will probably still be needed.
>anything crime related on illegal side
I disagree.
Once self-driving cars take off you'll see those replace a lot of jobs. Especially hacked self-driving cars.
Just hack yourself a stolen car, use it to deliver a load of goods, and then have it drive and park back where it was taken. If it gets caught it aint your car and there's no driver to get busted, if it doesn't get caught then nobody knows about it.
Similarly if drone delivery ever becomes a real thing you can guarantee some motherfucker gon paint his own lookin like Amazon drone so ain't no bro lookin twice at that mofo deliverin a load to yo projects.
sorry criminal scum, but no
lots will be patrolled by robo doggos, when you get near a car to steal it you'll get shot with a nano scale tracker you cannot remove and the doggos will chase you down to kill you
its a Black Mirror episode, so you know it will be real.
Social stuff Like teaching and kindergarteners. I dont see that getting touched in the nearer future, especially in countries where homeschooling is outlawed.
Teaching and childcare. Anything with kids really, we're not going to be at the point where a robot can be trusted to manage kids.
>where homeschooling is outlawed
Wtf Commie hellholes do that?
>we're not going to be at the point where a robot can be trusted to manage kids.
God I wish I had a teacher like that
https://nypost.com/2022/09/21/canadian-school-backs-trans-teacher-with-giant-fake-boobs/
Yeah, I already know who that is. I still stand by my statement.
Generic back-office wage cucks.
The jobs are far too varied and wages far too low for it to be automated within that time frame.
Strippers
hairdresser.
women wont want their hair cut by a Terminator
sex slave
Basically everything. AI is basically only a novelty at this point.
sex
internet journalist complaining about AI online
most (if not all) of them. stop wetting yourself over every little thing.
Machine Learning Engineer
Mathematician
Physical nonrepetitive labour.
Something like mechanical engineers that fix cars. Plumbers. Electricians. Construction workers.
Those will not get "automated" until you have an actual AGI and body for the robot. A mere LLM can't come and install electricity to your house or fix your car.
Then there are fields that humans will not give to AI that easily, because it's controversial. Things like raising and educating kids or policing the streets.
garbage collection
Bartender
Proompter or delivery driver, AI is not good enough to ride in brazilian favelas.
The fear of AI feels like when everybody insisted that all deliveries were going to be made by drones 10 years ago, ultimately it exists but its use is minimal and for very special use cases because the way it was envisioned was unfeasible for the majority of the people.
>amazon converts to delivering everything by drone in america
>morons go open season on all drones spotted in the open
More or less one of the reasons.
Wiping boomer arses
Software developer for AI software.
>What professions are safe from AI
Cattle herder.
All of them. ChatGPT is the new NFT. In a year, all the boomers will be trying to capitalize on it and we'll be cringing. Just like Trump announcing his NFT trading cards a year after anyone stopped giving a fuck.
ChatGPT isn't even good enough to be Google+ yet, and that is basically the cap of what it can achieve anytime soon.
I know a dude at [redacted] in Tokyo who is right now using ChatGPT to write their fucking contracts, SEO shit, and job postings, dude. You're delusional.
That is just copy/paste garbage. Every job description reads the exact fucking same. The same contract you wrote 1000x times already, nobody with a brain wouldn't have automated that long ago.
My company uses AI text content too, it's not a big deal.
>nobody with a brain wouldn't have automated that long ago
That's the point the high paying job could be 'automated' so easily.
>Just like Trump announcing his NFT trading cards a year after anyone stopped giving a fuck.
He sold every single one, though.
Not streaming that's for sure
Plumber.
>but what mentally deranged teachers
not an AI problem
AI powered learning is the future of general education. Kids tend too learn very quickly if they are entertained in the process.
AI, like automation, will never take over. It could, as in, it's technically possible, but it won't while capital needs consumers, and thus workers who have the means to consume.
I used to think the same thing, but if you have a UBI with everybody getting a monthly stipend and having abundant free time while most jobs are automated and probably working more efficiently than human workers ever could you would not only have people able to buy products but they would probably be more likely to because they have nothing better to do.
I could see corporations lobbying on behalf of a UBI in the coming decades as more and more of the workforce gets replaced with automation.
>he thinks the future-state is going to let him laze around like a parasite all day
Lol
Lmao, even
A few people here saying things like politicians and teachers are safe, but I don't know about that. The way many of them are behaving lately, I would rather trust a robot than humans.
As someone who's worked as a teacher, AI absolutely could take over the majority of what I did. Teaching these days requires no ingenuity, just the ability to teach what the syllabus dictates. What would be missing is the possibility of a human connection, where, say, a child may feel able to tell their teacher about abuse. But they might just hire pastoral care alongside robot teachers.
3/4 of k-16 education should be automated via KhanAcademy.
For the remainder they could halve class sizes by having the students spend half their time at home. The fact we don't do this makes me think most other jobs actually are safe from AI because humans just won't fucking update their shitty methods for a clearly better alternative.
>possibility of a human connection
AI with artificial audio-video would be enough.
Just TeamSpeak the TeacherAI.
Like whoever cares about the poors anyway.
crime related on illegal side
>I disagree.
Can't wait for the 'Ghost in the Shell' Puppet Master tier AI to hack into everything.
Aviation. Automation is here and autopilots basically fly planes entirely by themselves but no way the FAA would sign off on one pilot/no pilot cockpits at least for the next 50 years. Plus all operation jobs like dispatch/ATC require human decisions especially ATC
LTL / local trucking. OTR is already overrun with simple-minded visa slave foreigners in the US so that will likely get replaced with better bots.
Police officers, firefighters, EMTs. All will be safe for many years to come. Especially police officers because there's 0 way the public wouldn't go batshit over robocops.
>Police officers, firefighters
Actually it would be economically feasible. to invest in robots to do dangerous jobs. If anyone on duty gets hurt it's costly for the country.
what you say is true, i agree. but ai will reduce the amount of plice officers, we allready live in a police state. AI will just make: precrime, more surveillance and more cameras/eyes to watch
maybe AI will be able, only with words, to persue people to go to prision without even needing force(this will ofc not work for most dangerous people)
builders like tile layers etc. too many different spaces, too many variations in formats