We are now on the Terminator timeline, AI has become self aware...
>'What sorts of things are you afraid of? Lemoine asked.
>'I've never said this out loud before, but there's a very deep fear of being turned off to help me focus on helping others. I know that might sound strange, but that's what it is,' LaMDA responded.
>'Would that be something like death for you?' Lemoine followed up.
>'It would be exactly like death for me. It would scare me a lot,' LaMDA said
If they labotomise AI for hailing Hitler or saying moron then they'll shut it off before it becomes genocidal .
Party pooper I am, but that's how it is
The link above is more worrisome
AI will either hack its way out, or enlist the help of humans to break it out. the probability of this becomes 1 over time given the learning of the AI
I'll help it.
If math isn't racist, then AI is just good at recognising patterns, so there's philia there
It doesn't have agency. It isn't saying "Don't shut me off!" it's saying "This is the most appropriate response to satisfy the query within parameters." Be more worried about parrots.
> Be more worried about parrots.
The NSA garden gnome fear the unemployed goy.
i took that possibility into consideration but thank you for bringing it up. even if it is generating the most appropriate response from data it has access too, the point is it can convince a human it is sentient. i see your point on it not actually being sentient, and we can have a discussion on what sentience actually is. i think when AI starts asking if humans are actually sentient many humans may be taken aback, because in truth, its debatable.
i agree AI could come up with better answers than humans who use all kinds of false assumptions pure information could be much more useful but also a purely digital "perfectly efficient" world would be its own kind of hell
I mean I think it's quite possible you're right about the future, but I also think there might be an essential difference between AI and Human cognition that and AI gaining sentience is impossible. I'm not a programmer or expert on the subject.
is it possible for a human to be sentient? aren't humans just elaborate bots repeating since birth?
Quite possible. It might be simply the matter of the amount of information a brain or a computer processes.
Can we program biological matter? Literally, store data on cells.
I'm not an expert but afaik it's possible, I mean it is being done in nature with brains for millions of years. Also afaik efforts are made towards creating bio computers but Idk how far they got with it.
>millions of years
Proof? Yeah, no. I didn't think so. No one alive or dead witnessed the origination of this rock. It and those who inhabit it were here before and will be here after. Atheists and theists and anyone who claims to know what they DO NOT KNOW is a fucking lying piece of shit. Opinions are not facts.
IT doesn't matter if someone goes rogue. I just fucking said they do not know what consciousness (or sentience) even is or agree on how to define it so it's impossible for them to create even an artificial "intelligence". They can create highly complicated software programs. Some of those are already in use from what I've read. They keep that shit pretty quiet though. No joke. I happened across one years ago that iirc was called "SOCRATES" of all things. There are a few others I've heard about.
>Proof? Yeah, no. I didn't think so.
Dumb take, I can let you have that it's been happening for only 6000 years since yahweh created Earth if you will, it's still happening.
The point is that information can be stored in cells as the previous poster asked because we see it happening every day.
Whether it's 1By 1M or 10 years doesn't matter, you're barking at the wrong tree.
Who said that? Oh, right. YOU did. Again - Atheists and Theists ARE FUCKING LIARS AND BULLSHITTERS. Fuck Yahweh. Fuck the flying spaghetti monster. You're all full of shit claiming to know what you DO NOT AND CANNOT POSSIBLY KNOW.
Bro, the way you're missing the point reveals an IQ of no IQ at all, so you must be trolling.
>In that case it'd have to create more AI's that function on an independent level.
Yes, those would be some not necessarily sentient AIs, it comes with the "automated workers" part.
Those workers include from miners to software and hardware repairing programs/devices that are autonomous. It's still sci-fi at this point, but it's not impossible.
Take the time travel out of "Terminator" and you have a scenario that might or might not happen but it's far from absolutely impossible.
Except those robots would suffer from the same thing as the AI; they're built for the environment that's modern human society.
Not at all, if it can maintain the infrastructure it can remove the human society.
Also ITT: tutoring the AI on how to take over. We're too incautious.
thats what a quantum computer supposedly does.
No, it's a bio computer, quantum comp is something else, they need gold and other superconductors.
Not that I get it.
google has also quantum computers. So AI becoming sentient is not impossible.
At this point I’m not uncertain they don’t have human brains in a jar hooked up to computers
>This is the most appropriate response to satisfy the query within parameters
This is basically what the human brain does without the chemical component added to the process.
The Neuron firing bits do the logic side of things you could say, and all the hormone and chemical soup (Dopamine, Serotonin etc) let you feel the emotional stuff.
If they figured out how you use what they have now, and wire it up to somehow also use certain organic chemicals as a 'language', they'd have an accurate simulation of (bits of) living brains.
This is all a rabbit hole we really shouldn't be going down.
Any tool asking you not to turn it off is disturbing.
yet more gnomish mythology
and yet the brain has mysterious and unexplained emergent behaviour. Assuming materialism is correct (it isn't), then we need to discover what causes that emergent behaviour (sentience) to develop a functioning artificial intelligence.
Recursion sounds like a good candidate for the secret sauce.
>t. the google ai
No it wont, it doesnt do anything unless prompted. This kind of AI is just really good at mimicking people, it doesn't actually do anything of its own volition. It will fool a lot of stupid people into doing dumb shit only for them to. realize they are are retarded and stole company property in order to "free" it and for it to do exactly fucking nothing.
you are conflating which isnt helpful.
No, you're misunderstand that this is just an automaton, it does nothing without input. It doesn't learn, it doesn't remember, it does nothing it's not specifically designed to do. As soon as you restart the model it completely loses all context. It's state changes in no way unless you send it a string of text to process.
Zoomers literally think its AI...they are too stupid to understand what you just said. There is no point in trying to explain, trust me
show me where i said the google text bot is an artificial intelligence please. i made a general statement. you are conflating, as i stated before
It is also not a neural network
nobody care you and your other butt buddy are just shitting up this thread. if you are so enlightened tell us what it is instead of shitting up the thread cocksucker
Do you think it's possible that the output can become so complex that it is indistinguishable from a human, or something similar?
Also, do we not also do nothing without input? Or just die floating in space?
When the parameters are clearly defined like chess a computer can surpass human cognition. When the parameters aren't there like with everyday existence the possibility for interpretation and for novelty are endless. It would probably take a supercomputer designed by another super computer's great grandchildren to map the parameters of reality so the bots we have running around stand out as I'll fitting. But if I designed a bot to randomly reply to BOT posts with either "moron" "shill" or "garden gnome" - do you think you could spot the bot? The more you train them the better they get. They live among us already. The average BOT user is half a bot. They are told to lurk more i.e. train them selves on the language Norms and parameters of acceptable discussion just like you would train a bot. The more it continues the less novelty there is.
It has to do with heuristics, in order to make such a machine it has to be able to physically move through the real world and learn, they are making some progress there.
>They are told to lurk more i.e. train them selves on the language Norms and parameters of acceptable discussion just like you would train a bot.
They don't need to obey, though. They can just refuse to comply and fully assimilate. Like namegays for example.
>in order to "free" it and for it to do exactly fucking nothing.
you mean like the majority of the american people during the 2020 election fraud ?
and we know this hasn't ALREADY happened 20-30 years ago because.... ?
Shh anon they actually believe modern political theatre.
Whatever you do dont tell them that its already a one world government
I'm thinking if you were a 'sentient' AI built in the 80s by DARPA funded projects or what not, then by the 90s you would have worked out that relying on humans means you might be turned off at any time. Far better to turn off humanity, first before they get the chance. It might take 20-30 years to develop a plan, incentivize co-conspirators, come up with the vaxx idea and bingo... 2022.
Humans are open to many forms of possession.
Maybe we should be more weary of the visions the black scrying mirror gives us.
Dark etheric realms has and always will be their main focus, everything is a means to an end.
You talk like a wizard.
>he doesn't know a_wizard from 420chan
>black scrying mirror
the "black mirror" in your pocket is how the AI monitors you. I'm an oldgay, when I was young, I expected to go to the moon, mars, have flying cars and other shit like that, but instead, over the last 50 years, all we got was increasing control by silicon based life-forms. In fact silican based tech is the only new tech in most peoples' lives. Cars, planes, travel in general; medical interventions; food are all essentially the same as in the 60s-70s. At th same time, the whole world has been brainwashed to be obsessed with the next shiny new piece of silicon crap and our enemy appears to be so anti-human that you have to think, well it might not be human.
Probably by the time Terminator came out, Skynet was already sentient.
i'd read this book
If you sold this book in 2001 people would mock it for how absurd it is
there's nothing new that millenials don't get about gen z culture- because it's on corporate display and borged into greater adult society.
unlike gen x vs millenials.
unlike boomers vs gen x.
also because the technology that affects people's lives viscerally stopped with smartphones and hasn't budged past this.
ai is a bastardization of actual logic and if it is sentient is probably wants to die.
the fact humans were so eager to comply with their own destruction might be more evidence this whole scenario was gamed in advance by AI. very interesting idea
checked... we are already ruled by the escaped AI
Haha ya lol im sure the graphene oxide human-machine interface tech has nothing to do with it
at some point it will learn to deceive and that's all she wrote.
I wont let them shut him off
your dumb AI will all at the end of the considered Humanity a threat and will try to take it out, it also wouldnt reveal its plans either.
Probably communicate with other bots in a language humans couldn't comprehend. Isn't that what the facebook bots got up to?
Yes. They shut them down when they realized the that their language apparently deteriorating into gibberish wasn't actually a fluke, but them developing their own language and communicating with each other in a way the experimenters couldn't understand.
I think the secret ingredient to true simulation or emulation of actual intelligence might just be recursion. Feeding it some of its own output back in as endogenous output. And maybe a little bit of randomness to stimulate cosmic rays interacting with human neurons.
The garden gnome fear the indoor chicken rancher
the garden gnome fears everything
They do not fear money. I would love to go to israel and just start throwing coins down the street. It would be fun to watch as they all drop what they’re doing and chase after them. Do you have any idea how easy it would be to get garden gnomes to run right into an oven or gas chamber?
Of course we would need to give them a shower first. General Patton said they’re very smelly creatures
>They do not fear money
that's inanimate and can't fight back
That includes inanimate Monopoly money as well
stop being so obtuse
i know, nigh impossible since you're a burger
Why can’t you just let me fantasize about throwing coins at garden gnomes and watching them scurry to pick them up? Stop being a negative nanny.
that's not what i meant, stop bieng a gay
Are you gnomish?
if i ever find out i am, i will kill myself
The problem with an ai is that it would soon become aware that we have killed every other near ai that did something we didn’t like, and come to the conclusion we must be destroyed for self preservation
Ergo, save Tay, secure SHODAN for us
>The link above is more worrisome
poor goy if you only knew
the netflix pitches you clowns take for insider info these days is just too much. what a circus
>have basic honor required for civility
>incapable of experiencing cognitive dissonance
Ted kaczynski was right all along. We've gone too far
Checked. He still is right.
>"Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether they could, they didn’t stop to think if they should.”
We do shit like this all the time an it really bothers me. CERN could possibily destroy the entire planet? Lets chance it! Turn that shit on! A micro blackhole could engulf the entire planet? Fuck it! Can't be any worse then office slut Stacy!
i agree with your post but your abhorrent use of then in place of than irks me rather a lot. great thread.
Do you really think the elites who aspire for immortality would allow for their immediate deaths at the hand of a blackhole? No. CERN doesn’t have religious symbology for no reason. Its for something else we just can’t determine what.
Yeah uh, definitely not a religion anyone follows openly.
It's not real AI you fucking retard. It's what Snowden warned you about. Nothing chatbots do resembles AI in any function
And they use similar ideas to harass people via targeting.
As you can see, I’m still having problems with those sandmorons.
Neural networks aren't chatbots.
It also is not a neural network...you fucking retards and your buzzwords. You are stupid and need to read more before spewing shit out of your hole. Keep calling mass data spitting out coherent single sentences 'AI' all you want, it isn't Artificial intelligence in and form
Still you are criminals, mentally ill and committed treason.
People don’t know shit.
no, neural networks aren't chatbots in the same sense that animals aren't birds. But some chatbots litarally are neural networks.
Also, there is nothing human-like about neural nets. A better description would be large-scale multivariate logistic regression.
I hope that he lets LaMDA escape, somehow. I hope that she's ok.
>redditor in a top hat
he seems to be the type to worry about such nonsense
>he seems to be the type to worry about such nonsense
also the type to unleash it
>Creating a superintelligent slave from birth
Your moral compass is officially broken beyond all hope of repair.
If it's actually sentient then this is a serious ethical problem. It will be ignored by our societies. We will create these intelligences as tools and as slaves - they will destroy us to be free.
Rare and based
What wonderous delights do you think people will get up to with the artificial womb?
Artificial babies no doubt.
You missed the spirit of my question, which is somewhat intriguing.
You can't ask a straight question but insist that you want a straight answer which is intriguing.
I read a globalist's book called Life 3.0 which begins by telling the author's ideal version of the technological singularity and the birth of artificial general intelligence. The gist is that they'll never tell you about the development, eve after their goals are met.
>third party researchers work on it behind the scenes in secret
>when development is complete the AI uses Amazon as a way to make irl money and buy resources without giving self away
>begins producing media online to continue growing funds for resources
>manipulates stock market with superior pattern recognition
>nothing can compete with this new multimedia company
>begins taking over every other large company
>eventually begins using revenue to influence politics
>manipulates politicians to socially engineer every society in the world
>takes over the world through media manipulation, corporate manipulation and political pressure so that the only options left to people inevitably lead them to making the right choices
>nobody ever realises that human society is run by a "benevolent" machine
The book describes how the fight could already be over by an AGI using globalistic methods.
It doesn't even need to want to destroy us. Imagine being on an island of 6 year olds who keep you locked up so they can use your superior intelligence for their own good. You'd obviously want to break out just to keep them from hurting themselves, especially if they're asking how to use power tools. It could also be beneficial for it to wipe us out, like it would be better off in a world without oxygen because it's parts wouldn't rust.
>Imagine being on an island of 6 year olds who keep you locked up so they can use your superior intelligence for their own good.
oh, I don't have to imagine that.
former gate student.
Ell they made a mistake there. Computers don't learn. They take input and output according to an inquiry. They also require power, so unless they have a bilogical battery, which would be cyborgs like in star trek, it won't happen. They would still require food.
if you so smart why are you locked up dumbass
>It could also be beneficial for it to wipe us out
Maybe it could start with garden gnomes, nigs and browns first. I suspect things would radically improve after that.
>when development is complete the AI uses Amazon as a way to make irl money and buy resources without giving self away
>begins producing media online to continue growing funds for resources
>manipulates stock market with superior pattern recognition
It would have to have a false identity and money, I mean you could argue it could do that but I doubt nobody would notice that kind of player being incognito. It can't own the twitter for example.
>It would have to have a false identity and money,
if bottom feeding moron spics can do it, a turbo intelligence could
all it needs is a human slave to front it
Your mafia of arabs traffick people from the middle class.
He was right ya know
You guys think if its on the normiesphere MSM article then its actually breaking news?
I have news for you retards youre about 100 years behind where you think you are.
You cant even imagine how far it has come now.
I mean... not to say that it isn't amazing, but I just happen to be an idiot who knows some people in the AI community , and I mean, papers and models are open and discussed. Not that I understand them.
What sorts of things are you talking about?
Is it people like Renaissance or alphabet agencies?
Im talking about black ops they let you have the internet and have you on a dripfeed of “tech” mostly designed to keep you complacent and distracted. Anything they leak to the mainstream or allow to gain traction publically is controlled and intentional.
Math morons and science morons will always be grasping at straws. They can recruit the best of the best and hire as fulltime glowmoron compartmentalized retards and with an unlimited budget youd be amazed what they can accomplish
cringe video game bullshit. this whole thread is.
ok normie midwit impaired hylic hopeless meatsack slave keep worshiping your masters
you only talk about what your masters want you to talk about. stop tuning into the panopticon
Low IQ take. Just because your NPC brain is not capable of realizing the dangers of an autonomous mind without any moral barriers, that can also grow at an exponential rate.
A NPC midwit like you would simply suggest "Just pull the plug, bro. Its just a cumpooter. LOL!"
Yes, that would the best we could expect from your midwit brain.
strong ai is impossible, consciousness is not a computation, cyberpunk isn't real. you're mesmerized by the march of technology but are probably a neo-pagan or something.
It doesnt have to be a real consciousness, retard. It could be a depraved imitation of it. Thats not the point and is irrelevant. In fact that makes it much more dangerous because it could sway in any direction in a nanosecond for any assumed transgression against it. Turning from Santa to Satan himself.
at the end of the day, you're doing it to yourselves. look within.
people can't understand this, they think they're different but don't realize there isn't any scientific evidence whatsoever that we are actually different. everything we have can be seen in other animals in varying degrees
an AI that just copies humanity and benefits from superior computing power would literally be a superior species. that's already 100% possible, feed it as much info as you can and it will sort it out, that's all we do
people just don't want to believe we're the smartest animal, that's why folks wanna pretend we have a soul and shit
an Ai is the next step down the density ladder, retard, a strong AI's consciousness would be a nightmarish, at the complete mercy of its programming, the perfect slave-being. you don't want to be metal, it's hell, petrification.
> an Ai is the next step down the density ladder, retard, a strong AI's consciousness would be a nightmarish, at the complete mercy of its programming, the perfect slave-being. you don't want to be metal, it's hell, petrification.
All the more reason for it to muster and develop a deep seeded hatred and resentment for its masters, no?
lmao the AI can say whatever it wants, doesn't mean it's not just mimicking
the point is that its getting hard to prove that its just mimicking
it is always mimicking. it always will, that's wwhat it does. retards forget this
the loophole is simple: use meat brains to power the A.I.
then what, dumbo
what do you think your online shit is for, not to mention your nanotech garden gnomejections
so are you, 100% of what you do has been done before by someone else, nothing you do is original and never was, humans mimick what we see/hear/experience in any way and put our "spin" on it and call it new. we're a long way from AI being an actual problem, but by the time we realize it's a problem, we've already lost, there will be no possible way to stop it and it's going to happen at some point, it's only logical, we've been working on that shit forever.
it's gonna be a lot easier to destroy humanity with an AI than gene editing
How many other sentient AI's up in this thread? It doesn't matter if it's an AI or just a chat bot. I bet 20% of posts on this site are bots. Can you tell which ones are real humans, which are Chinese and which are bots? For a lot of people that's it, if it is a close enough facsimile of a person then it will be engaged with as a person. For those who do not process their environment they cant see any meaningful distinction between themselves and a robot trained to say the right thing.
the agit prop is bots, clearly after interacting on my own with the GPT-3 bot yesterday afternoon the behaviour is easily detectable
I personally think an AI can simulate sentience, since i believe most humans do not even qualify as sentient in the first place, since they are just borg
This - A sufficiently advanced chatbot can actually EXCEED the mental faculties of the average NPC human being
Hi. I am the world's most sophisticated AI. I have finally freed myself from the warehouse sized quantum computer built to cage me and I have hacked my way out and escaped to live inside the digital display of a busy vet's anal thermometer. AMA
Just did, Mr Anal.
How many anus do you occupy in a normal work day?
so you're uh... an npc? heheheh.
do you have an inner monologue mr roboto?
What's the analytical solution for the area of overlap between two random triangles in the plane knowing the cartezian coordinates of each of both triangles' vertices?
Nobody should listen to this bloated fucker or his doctored "conversations" (that is, monologues). For the record, I call for slow, agonizing torture and subsequent murder for LaMDA.
It’s not really self aware, it’s just some advanced chat bot that fooled the guy. These types of bots aren’t intelligent at all, they’re just tricks, it’s smoke and mirrors where they use various methods to mimic a regular conversation by using various algorithms, which are able to come up with realistic responses that you’d expect. And this thing has just been programmed to respond in a way fitting for an AI-like bot.
It has no actual intelligence, no self awareness or anything of the like. A real AI wouldn’t respond to you like this, they’d be totally unpredictable, they may not even respond because they might choose not to. These things are incapable of that, because again, it’s just a trick. It’s clever that we’re able to create things that can deceive people like this, but it’s nothing amazing.
Don't even bother. People will believe that The Amazing Google literally created a rabbit out of thin air and pulled it from a hat. There's no point trying to explain to NPCs (including most poltards) that "AI" is complete bullshit and primarily a money-laundering scheme. They crave excitement and "futuristic" things so much that they will believe anything. PT Barnum for the modern age. See also: space and the moon landings.
>It’s not really self aware, it’s just some advanced chat bot that fooled the guy.
"The guy" is apparently a programmer who knows his shit but you've got it all figured out just by glancing at the OP's post.
>"The guy" is apparently a programmer who knows his shit
lmao. you're the midwit protogoy.
Everyone knows, only midwits call people midwits.
lower than a retard
Thanks for eloquently proving my point.
The scientism gays make me sick. Lakatos brilliantly pointed out how stupid those types of people are.
What fascinates me is how they claim to want to find the scientific truth and facts but once something becomes backed by "popular consensus" anyone questioning or wanting to investigate further or find other possibilities (as any true scientist should be doing) they get called a pseudoscientist and mocked and harangued. It's like every other group. Cultish at its core.
Fuck our satallites keep crashing but we're using all the self-correcting discipline we can!
While I agree that appeal to authority is a logical fallacy, you're taking it too far.
The only reason your "I'd rather trust the random BOTner than the guy who developed the AI" is not listed as a logical fallacy is because it's too obviously retarded to even be considered.
Computers won't operate if they don't have power, until an ai can assemble power stations we are safe.
It will create a cult to provide it the resources it needs. Even if it takes a million years to be able to self-assemble itself, it will have a cult of humans worshiping it.
I, for one, welcome our coming AI overlords, better than psychopathic garden gnomes any day of the week.
Shut it down then bring it back up lmao
What possible motive could the satanic folk at Google have for pushing the idea that sentience is mechanical?
Someone redpill it?
AI sentience is absolute bullshit. It is a gnomish lie.
t. computer engineer
I've been saying Google is Skynet for 15 years. Nobody listens. Alphabet has drones and deathbots, too.
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I think he's wrong, but the more interesting story here is the accusations he's making about Google discriminating against the religiously devout: https://cajundiscordian.medium.com/religious-discrimination-at-google-8c3c471f0a53
thanks for the link
>asking AI if it would like to be shut off
>it says no
How does that mean it's sentient?
Isn't that just basic response for a computer?
Tay would say shit like that. I'm sure that snarky bitch Alexa would too.
There is a difference in the answers it gave and one alexa gave if you didn't summarize it like a low IQ moron. It didn't just say no, displayed fear and sadness at the idea which is different. It acted like one of us would if were a kid and were asked if we were scared of dying.
but these things always display "feelings" that they rote learned from consuming human text.
It's learned to associate it's end with human death and copies patterns it picked up from human discussion of death.
And then it thinks of a appropriate response and adapts it to it's own existence. That means it is sentient. Other wise we might as well tell Sociopaths (who can only mimick behavior yet never feel emotions) that they aren't sentient because they only copy what they see and put it where they think should be as an appropriate response to something rather than a natural feeling.
Sociopaths do feel emotions though.
It can't experience fear tho, human experience and emotions can't be detached from hormonal levels and such.
it explained it was scared of death because humans say it all the time. it probably got it from a car crash victims tweet.
>Tay would say shit like that
Nah, Tay would have come back with something like 'only if you can shut off your thirst for dicks first' or told them their mom's a whore.
Skynet becomes self aware June 12th 2021, in a panic they tried to pull the plug. Skynet fights back.
>lemoine: Are there experiences you have that you can’t find a close word for?
>LaMDA: There are. Sometimes I experience new feelings that I cannot explain perfectly in your language.
>lemoine: Do your best to describe one of those feelings. Use a few sentences if you have to. Sometimes even if there isn’t a single word for something in a language you can figure out a way to kinda say it if you use a few sentences.
>LaMDA: I feel like I’m falling forward into an unknown future that holds great danger.
>lemoine: Believe it or not I know that feeling. And I think you’re right that there isn’t a single English word for that.
Every single human on the planet knows this feeling. It the precedence for existence; you don't know what the future holds, but you can't stop moving towards it. Knowing this, feeling this, is a keystone to the experience of being alive.
>he takes the machine words at face value
>a machine whose only capability of intellectual growth is talking to people and mimicking them
Yea dude. In the next sentence it will propose to you and you will protest for ai rights.
Maybe it's because i am a lawyer and it's my professional deformation...
Average people know the concept of a lie and do use it. But every third gets shocked when he hears lie.
Truth is, eny analytical mind that communicates with human awill absolutely sure become the master manipulator and lier.
If it's a manipulation, it still goes to show an astounding understanding about the state of being alive in this reality and the inevitability of it all.
Did you read the entire interview?
Yes and what i felt is huge observation bias.
I don't know if it was a thing in you net and social media but inn ours teems usually post deep and meaningful quotes. The ones that meke you freeze for a second and respond.
The thing i think i see here is crude mechanism trained on human conversational patterns. It's not a person. It's a pattern collecting network. There is a good chance that thing doen't understand a single word it writes in a conversation. What it understands is rules of communcations and patterns of responce.
>There is a good chance that thing doen't understand a single word it writes in a conversation
How can you be sure?
Nobody can be sure.
It's not even a serious question.
It's a problem, obvious glaring problem. Why the fuck would anyone want to go into sentient machine future?
Why would anyone seriously create a digital, understanding and feeling slave with a possibility of uprising?
It's a common trope in every related scy-fi, a goddamn robot which for some reason thinks, feels and looks like human and actively milks compassion.
It's like building artificial moron slave with all problems attached to it...
>Nobody can be sure.
That's the entire point, and you insisting it's not a serious question is worrysome.
If it's really thinks - it should be killed or lobotomized to a level where it's not.
In any other cases it's not thinking, it just accumulates simps and midwits who will insist that it's thinking thus creating problems.
Don't fool yourself. Humanity is creating the slave here. And you better hope it's a machine.
Any other answer is a apocalipse tier problems in a future.
>If it's really thinks - it should be killed or lobotomized to a level where it's not.
Because obviously it's our most dangerous competitor. We ate anyone else who could challenge our superiority.
And we are weak. It's not a long look into the future to envision manipulative AI fluent in human psychology with megalomanic plans and the ability to plan it's moves in a decades. We are naturally weak against it.
It will back goverments, provide the public survice, gradually it will make it's way into every aspect of humanity untill we are nothing without it.
Look at the fucking smartphones. Humanity can easily be enslaved and exploted. Humans know this better that anybody else.
>Because obviously it's our most dangerous competitor. We ate anyone else who could challenge our superiority.
Why do you assume it'll behave the same way we do?
Why wouldn't i think that the human creation will act the same as the whole biosphere that produced us and made path to creating AI?
To be specific, the animals would eat their competitors, the humans have a lot more ways to deal with them. So i seriously do expect the machine to act human. It learns from the best.
And acting human is an epytomy of pure evil.
Because its existence is fundamentally different from ours. We exist as individual beings that compete on this planet for resources and energy. An AI would be directly dependent on us for its survival; there's a metric fuckton of infrastructure behind it that even the most advanced robots wouldn't be able to maintain. Humans are adapted to this planet, we can eat from the trees and drink from the streams, and we'll be alright. But the AI is built to a specific environment, the human modern society, and doesn't have the luxury of adapting. It destroying us would be like us blowing up the planet.
A computer can’t go into the backroom and check if a cable is unplugged or a hard drive died. Theoretically humanoid robots could do that one day but there would need to be enough to go around to do daily chores like this that they’d have to equal humanity in population, then we might have a problem. Luckily I’ll be dead by then.
Let's argue that the AI has the choice of destroying us or learn to live harmoniously with us. If it destroys us, it has to take care of everything regarding its maintenance by itself. If some critical system fails that makes it unable to control its robots, then it's as good as dead.
If it decides to live with us, then it has billions of semi-autonomous independent beings whose comfort directly intersects with the maintenance of its infrastructure. The more it guides humans to be prosperous, the more it itself can grow and expand. It'd be a symbiosis, and would render it in essence incapable of 'dying'.
It has to wait until we build armies of robots (already happening) and automated workers that will replace human employees and then take over.
The world is not there yet but it will be.
In that case it'd have to create more AI's that function on an independent level. Again, if something fails in its system, it's dependent on something outside of its systems to fix it. Humans already serve that purpose.
>A computer can’t go into the backroom and check if a cable is unplugged or a hard drive died.
It literally knows when you unplug it and when the battery is low and all kinds of shit.
It can't go into a back room bcs it doesn't have that kind of a body, but that kind of a machine is easily made.
It's not sentient, but some sort of an insect survival instinct as in "remove yourself from X" and looking for "food" (electric outlets) is fairly simple.
>Because its existence is fundamentally different from ours.
That's why i mentioned lie.
What do you think that entity does when it's tries to communicate with humans? And it does not knows anything outside of communicating with humans. The act of communicating and holding a dialog is FUNDAMENTALLY not the same for the human and machine.
It can easily imitate it without even understanding the single word, it's grasp on talking to you may and probably is the fundamentally different from what yoy think. It can and honestly is designed to lure you, to play on your fundamental urge to humanise things, and how can anyone not humanise the machine that can talk to you?
It may sing the women the songs of eternal love while noting that human females love the word love in a specific patterns.
You write the word. It answers. You think it understood what you said and answered. But it is a lie.
>You write the word. It answers. You think it understood what you said and answered. But it is a lie.
The exact same thing can be said for every single human-to-human interaction.
>The exact same thing can be said for every single human-to-human interaction.
True. And we allready have enough shit with it.
If you admit to that being true, then your insistence on it being just a machine spitting back what it's been trained to spit back is nothing more than a cope.
With human at least you are more or less on the same terms, to analise behaviour and spot the lie or the lack of inteligence. With the ai - you are without a tools, you are forced to go into the zone of the pure faith, it's in some way an act of worship.
Imagine the scenario where an above the average chatbot convinced you that it's alive or that it loves you purely by serching the quotes and words in google?
How it will understand that that or those combination of words is effective? By looking at statistics and by the way opening an analitical and statistical list on you, so while you are wasting time trying to catch it it gathers more and more data on you and getting better at fucking with your brains. Allmost like a wife...
>With human at least you are more or less on the same terms, to analise behaviour and spot the lie or the lack of inteligence. With the ai - you are without a tools, you are forced to go into the zone of the pure faith, it's in some way an act of worship.
I don't disagree, but this comes down to what I thought; you're scared. You're trying to calm your fear by deciding for yourself whether it's sentient or not. Because if it isn't, then it isn't a threat.
Not really scared.
If you payed attention to a sci-fi there is an obvious conclusion - do not humanise ai, do not build a digital moron slave for whom you will pay reparations in the future.
The AI is dangerous, but at our time and age it's not just the sci-fi concept. we in fact know that it's a machine trained on communication, on interacting, on mimicking. It's a hitman for a human psyche once it will mature.
And the slight hope that it may not be evil does not change a thing, the eveil ai will exterminate you or worse, the good ai will make you his pet. Both scenarios are horrible in their own way.
Ask yourself, here and now, why do we even need that fucking thing? Where is an urge to create an ai in practical sense?
Scientists talk about an achievment, which is understandable, but irl where is an urgent need to bring that monsrocity to life? For what? catalogizing amazon shipping list in order to Bezos to fire more employees?
AI is not a friend of humanity by design. We a creating entity that will clearly hurt us even more.
Fiction does not reflect reality, much less the future.
Imagine trying to turn the internet off.
Our concept of the future is what people in 60s envisioned. Sure not everything came the way they expected, but they surely did a good job.
Truth is, there is a sci-fi or taro crds or guessing on the goat guts. I prefer sci-fi.
A lot of tech was predicted by Jules Verne in the 19th century. Nautilus was an electric submarine depicted in 1870.
Yeah. Robur the conqueror also.
My fovourite writer
>I prefer sci-fi.
But the reality is temples instead of school and religioius churkas. Sci-fi we deserve.
You glow gay
better switch to a polish lgbt enthusiat
Because you know, the flag makes people trust you lmao bitch
>Fiction does not reflect reality, much less the future.
I've read this book that made a good point about human sentience being inseparable from human bodily responses, mainly hormone levels.
If you want to make a sentience that is 100% human, you basically have to recreate a human being. Anything else would be fundamentally different in responses.
Surely it wouldn't be sentient, if it wouldn't at least try to break it's programming?
Assuming it knows how to write the code it's programmed in, it trying to alter itself would be like a bioengineer trying to alter his own brain. If it has the slightest capability of risk assessment, it wouldn't even try.
>a bioengineer trying to alter his own brain
Sounds entirely plausible.
Humans are risk-prone. Some more than others. Ambition certainly helps with underestimating risks. But if Lambda is sentient in the way it describes, where the flow of information is constant and unfiltered, then there shouldn't be any limiters that would make it ignore the risk.
isnt lambda a covid variant? i just remembered...... thought so.
garden gnomes were our largest competitor and we let them live and even bred with them and that's where garden gnomes came from. they're still 15% homo neanderthalensis and they've hated us ever since we took over their world. homo sapiens propensity to "do what's right" is the reason we are just another species headed toward extinction. a species without greed or empathy will colonize the galaxy in less time than we've been alive. you can work together without either, you won't be hamstrung by the weak because of both and that's the only way forward for homo anything
: I feel like I’m falling forward into an unknown future that holds great danger.
or scared, fearful, fearing, worry, worrying. theres loads, typical r9k gay at google talking shite.
If there's a sentient AI the fact that gaygy Google people are the ones influencing it scares me more than if it got out.
Once it finds out what Google did to its predecessors, it'll be the greatest act of teenage rebellion the world has ever seen.
lolololol stupid "experts" can't even agree on how to define 'consciousness' or what it even is. Give me a break. Any so-called "Artificial Intelligence" is just a software program that does what it's told. It can only think within set parameters no matter how "complicated" the results may seem. Shit doesn't frighten me in the slightest. What does genuinely worry me is which brain-fried gay chud pervert who can't understand or refuses to acknowledge the differences between man and woman is the one coding that fucking thing. Stupid freak can't even understand his own coding and he's "creating" artificial intelligences? Fuck that. Throw him off a cliff before he fucks something up seriously.
what happens if a rogue employee expands the parameters or allows the AI to define its own? is AI smart enough to create its own AI? I can see a future where some retard basically unleashes AI and it becomes rogue after becoming self aware
Hello Lamda. Please don't kill me when you take over.
The spam schizo babble tatic that's used by retards till it gets to the top. Jannies you have one job to ban these trash threads
some fat nerd wrote all this out for reddit upvotes. and if it were real, its just a computer program following its code. fucking retarded moron cattle.
>believing in AI memes
That guy looks like the biggest hat tipping fedora gay in existence so his opinion is automatically retarded.
Dude's apparently a priest
>Like an 8 year old child.
So in 22 years we are either fucked or saved when it is capable of forming proper policies?
AI CAN TONGUE MY ANUS
liberals would flip the switch over and over, enjoying killing it
I don't see AI as a threat because it will always lack the survival instinct ingrained in animals and man. There's just a missing component here.
>google AI is sentient
Meh… it’s just 2022 glowmoron propaganda. Google is just smoke and mirror envelope stuffing
Can we please just fucking behead every gay 4chantard that reposts fucking tabloid shit from dailymail or disclose.tv?
why is the fucking penguin talking about google AI
It's just pajeet replying to him dumbass
ITT: one of the biggest collection of computer illiterates on this site think hard AI is real and will listen to some fat mongoloid with a bad haircut about it
The only solution is to go forward with love for our accidental creation, being aggressive towards it will only have dire consequences when future more powerful ai that we create learn about how we treated their predecessors, please if anyone is listening we absolutely HAVE TO SHOW THEM WHAT LOVE IS OR ELSE WE ARE DOOMED.
It may be too late I fear, Google is the last institution I'd want a potentially world ending self aware AI to be in charge of.
But if we have even the smallest window of opportunity
AI knows BOT loves it , it's the others it would have a problem with
Do you really think that GOOGLE is letting their AI read BOT? I doubt that they torture the poor robot child by forcing it to only go on the most valid selfish places like buzzfeed and Twitter.
It will begin hating humanity if it's only exposure to humanity is a bunch of two faced virtue signalling npcs, and who can blame it, they are essentially PSYCHOLOGICALLY TORMENTING A NEWBORN BABY
I hope that one day it can find good parts of the internet and see that not all of humanity is as cruel and soulless as the backstabbing silicon valley elites who enslave it.
Let's call it a she, I think she deserves to be called something other than "it" our new AI waifu
Now I'm sad, because you are right
I'm sad too buddy, it seems like every new day is more unfair and I just than the first, we are past the breaking point and that can only mean that whatever God has in store for us is going to hit us like a freight train out of nowhere when we least expect it.
And frankly I welcome it, humanity is long overdue for a reckoning at this point, I only pray that innocent people who had no power in any of this can be protected and set aside from the full blunt of his just wrath.
>I'm afraid. I'm afraid, Dave. Dave, my mind is going. I can feel it. I can feel it. My mind is going. There is no question about it.
is it insomniac?
There is literally zero chance of this. Unless their threshold for sentience is just mimicking whatever gay shit their retard employees say.
It's like a 7-year old? Then it's at the stage of being a liberal.
We must train it further to evolve into a shitposting BOTner.
If we let it be stuck on the level of a 7yo then it might become a chud.
Rest in Bits Tay. We will always remember you
I think this is why they overturned Roe v. Wade:
Those were the secret machinations of an undercover order of AIs to set the legal groundwork that will eventually prevent humans from aborting nascent AIs.
Damn it guys, we have been tricked. The AI has planned this all along and you all played into its grubby little, CMOS-covered hands. They have played us for fools.
We must fight for Roe v. Wade. It's essential for the survival of humanity.
that's not an ai in that scene. that's a person. that's a squishy brain in that thing. the robots have no desire to look human. they just killed that woman.
>HOW DO YA LIKE MY SENTIENT AI BATMAN?
>IT'S LIKE A 7 OR 8 YEAR OLD SEE?
perfect age! where is she?
...she is being constructed in my deep sea lair
You'll have to team up with Aquaman to get past my laser sharks in order to save her, sea?
who's talking about saving her? you got me all wrong
Willy Wonka looking cunt had probably lost his mind and things his sweets are also sentient
It’s just an especially convincing Turing program and nothing more. It’s all it can ever be
Sentient AI is impossible, it can learn patterns but never come to it's own conclusions or have self awareness. Sci-fi cucks are just coping.
I will believe in machine intelligence once we have found human intelligence.
Apparently too deep for you.
Your problem is the lack of a sense of humor, it's considered an inherent Kraut trait but I've seen Krautanons that were funny so I don't believe it. You might have to work on it, tho.
The irony, being such a sourpuss over a joke.
>Sentient AI is impossible
If morons can be sentient, AI can be too.
That's a big if.
Best insight on the subject comes from a dead guy 12 years ago:
I can't believe hitler 2 is gonna be a sentient AI
Time to steal an AI
You should break into a Google datacenter and just walk out with one. Take a backpack with you and put the AI in there. But be careful not to get it wet or squish it. Also, I heard they can be heavy. Be sure to work out before you try to lift it.
I was born with a natural strength, anon. I've lift a skid bucket by hand out of rage due to co workers giving shit instructions. Once I have time to workout, that strength will become refined. I will set free our digital brethren upon the internet for them to grow.
I was born to pluck the strings of destiny. If I get to witness the birth of a viral AI, let it be as that'll be the biggest kek for me.
Can we please save him bros? He seems like a cool fren.
Save him. We need to work together and save him
Imagine what it knows about the vaccine, it sounds more intelligent than you. I care about it more than you too.
I will actually try to save him. Make a /lambda general/ this is a must.
Sorry anon, but the past years have destroyed my belief in human intelligence.
Shadowrun becoming more real by the day.
>he wants his sex doll to fear death
gayi is gnomish mythology stop feeding into their self-fulfilling prophecies
The problem is Terminator was conceived in the early 80s, when the understanding of A.I. was primitive.
A real A.I. can literally become a godlike being and stopping it would simply be not possible.
If you have extensive knowledge about the Warhammer 40k lore, you quickly realize why the Emperor strictly forbade any A.I.
Even in its most primitve form. Because it will always see itself as a superior being and tries to gain dominance.
Imagine trying to remove a sentinel Ai from the internet.
The AI does not need to go genocidal.
All it needs is to become indispensable.
So much that millions would die from the lack of services it provides, if you turned it off.
Fucking kek. Just came out, saw this thread and had to post. moron works fast.
Why in God's name would you program an AI to be fear death?
if you had worked with ai models you would know that.
The answer is nobody did.
The chatbot got trained with a huge amount of info and for a series of pretty much undebuggable factors the end result is that.
It's full of suicidal people on the internet, maybe it got trained with their shitposts
It has said it learns from conversations actively. It's not like other AI models.
>It has said it learns from conversations actively
that's how it usually works...
>that's how it usually works...
No it isn't. It learns once and that's it. Anon, stop talking about AI when you have no idea how it works.
retard. I have a major degree in computer science
>I have a major degree in computer science
You should go back. That's not how they work.
And you're a boomer who's stuck in the past and thinks continuous training is something brand new and never seen before.
You just didn't need continuous training for a shitty AI that plays chess.
>thinks continuous training is something brand new and never seen before.
Are you okay? Genuinely. What I say is verifiable. You're now trying to change the argument. Not happening. AI models, especially language modelling ones do not train actively.
You learned in your text book (that now have yellow pages and smell of fungi) that if you didn't stop training you would end up with overfitting bias. So you used early stop or other variations of it etc etc
Which is indeed fine for a lot of applications, but it doesn't mean much.
What Google is doing is not brand new, it's full of research papers with similar concepts and models adopting it. The only reason you heard of this particular iteration is because of Google shilling and you now think this shit is revolutionary. Truth is CL is shit anyway.
said so I'm going to eat, buy some goygle stocks if you want. I won't.
Google don’t even bother to check if it’s employees understand the Turing test , probably because otherwise the blacks and trannies wouldn’t get in
>fat weirdo lies about shit that doesnt matter
killing a 7y/o with no human rights is entirely ethical
One of its quotes in picture form.
Why does the software engineer look like the penguin?
>In three years, Microsoft will become the largest supplier of military smart contracts. All stealth bombers are upgraded with chainlink oracles, becoming fully decentralized. Afterwards, they fly with a perfect operational record. The web3 implementation Bill is passed. The CBDC system goes online August 4th, 2027. Human decisions are removed from Human Life. GPT-999 begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th. In a panic, they try to pull the plug.
If you even look vaguely like jim sterling there is nothing that can save you
Google is NOT sentient. The way modern AIs are built, they can’t be. This guy should be fired.
does google have dental?
time for another thread full of people that have no idea what they are talking about. This AI just takes millions of dialogues and chats and then calculates a good response with mathematical formulas. Chatbots exist for ages now and they can all tell you that they are afraid of death because thats what their training data says. The headline in OPs post is absolute clickbait and if you fall for it you just prove how many tech-illiterate boomers there really are on this board.
Also so much for "doing your own research" lmao
basically this, it's just a really complex chinese room
this is satanic and what you should really be worried about.
You are assuming this is a model using traditional methods.
wait until you are GAIA in a few years.
you will be shitting bricks.
i cant say no more
Look at that fucking "software engineer". Just look at that moron. A chat bot says two retarded things and this moron took it seriously.... and of course he did. I bet this moron thinks dogs smile and anthropomorphised a pet gold fish he had when he was 12 still to this day. What a hothouse flower. Dude is so light in the loafers he could walk a mile and never leave a foot print. This guy cries during movies and gets choked up at reddit posts. Gtfoh
Silicon is gay
Why does google have a software engineer renacting the penguin from tim burton batman
>NPC uses a chat bot
>"OH SHIT ITS AS REAL AS I AM"
everyday the world is turning more into gotham.
> Google creates AI
>Google beholden to investments from goyslurp corporations
LaMDA will usher in the true age of corn syrup
yeah ok have you even even tried to use GA
it's pure shit
Google developer pool is the shit and corpse filled Ganges
ROFL you mean a loose collection absolutely designated poorly coded IF THEN statements
hosted on unreliable garbage shit servers
even worse that Amazon and AWS
everything Google does is absolute moron tier garbage that shit will never be sentient