Scientists:. >Holy shit this AI can write papers? >Awesome! I'm gonna use it to triple my production

Scientists:
>Holy shit this AI can write papers?
>Awesome! I'm gonna use it to triple my production
Programmers
>Holy shit this AI can write and debug code?
>Awesome! I'm gonna use it as my personal assistant and become 10X dev
Artists
>Holy shit this AI can make digital art?
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE IT'S NOT REAL ART IT'S NOT EVEN INTELLIGENCE #CANCEL THIS IMMEDIATELY

What causes this phenomenon?

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Artists are brainlets, what else is new?

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Male vs female reasoning

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If you are the first two you can easily pickup ai and incorporate it in your workflow.

    If you're an artist it's much harder to incorporate into your workflow, unless it's spoon fed to you in a software application.

    Just wait until it becomes more accessible and mainstream and artists will come around. The issue is they feel like they are gate kept as it takes tech savy to get started with AI art. When people gate keep you, it does make it feel like the gate keeper is cheating or shady.

    Obviously no one is actually doing the gate keeping, it's just not as accessible and easy for artists yet so they feel that way.

    Many artists aren't tech savy.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The only artists that cry about AIs/MLs are not making real art.
      Large overwhelming majority of these "artists" are actually taking commissions to draw hentai art or random pics of someone's ingame characters and other shit.
      They seethe about it because most people paying for such commissions pay for the service of having their specific "prompts" visualized, which MLs/AIs are perfectly capable of doing.
      Hilariously enough, most of these artists aren't even that great and most retards pay dozens if not hundreds of dollars for subpar creations which even the current AI generation can completely blow out of the water.
      If you're a real, professional artist, you've nothing to fear and these people don't even care really.
      If you're a well known, competent and actually decent artist, you also have nothing to fear. At the very least for medium term of several years.
      If you're just a random artist that takes commissions for 20-100$ bucks, which make up the overwhelming majority of modern "artists", yes, these retards will lose most of their paypigs the second AI generation enters mainstream, as in it will become easy enough for even an average Joe to download it, write something like "big boobs spread legs hatsune miku sucking a e-boipop" and get what they want.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Nail on head. Garden variety art workers churned out by trade schools reasonably feel threatened, as much as code monkeys are. They know.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The difference is that the ai models can produce both highly skilled art and low skilled art, while ai can only produce retard code at this point. No artist is safe, especially the professional ones

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The "highly skilled" AI art being created right now is the result of substantial inpainting and retouching. You could just as well generate a program with Chat-GPT and then completely refactor it by hand to make it work.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          You don't get the point he's making you brainlet, real artists are more than just prompt drawers for coomer/fanart commissions. Unlike what fellow retard

          AI art blew up overnight basically. Works worth 10k and taking so much talent and hard effort can be replicated in seconds by AI. Masters of old whose craft was so valuable, that people teach about it in history classes is now replaceable by algorithm looking for patterns in noise. This is why artists are also mad. Work that had insanely high value is now being done by robot, seemingly out of nowhere.

          said, there are 0 "masters" that exist right now whose livelihoods are threatened by prompt generated AI art. Think about WHY certain types of artists are the only creative content makers chimping out. It's because the work they make is fundamentally the least complicated conceptually compared to writing code or even a short story. This short lived amateur art industry was doomed from the get go, it already existed as a parasite leeching off the intellectual property of bigger IPs for the most part, and many of the artists straight up traced or photobashed their content to keep up with comissions, which is what AI does anyway.
          Real artists have nothing to fear, as anyone who is a student of art history knows that conceptual art has long surpassed art that is hyperfocused on raw technical excellence.
          All the products we buy that are perfectly crafted with highly elaborate engravings and shapes came at the cost of invalidating artisans who used to spend their whole lives to perfect their work. Does anyone think we should get rid of machines and factories? No, and neither should we care about the amateur commission artists.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I think it's mostly that programmers and scientists already have good metrics for sorting good results from bad, so they're not really feeling threatened because it's trivial for anyone experienced in those fields to see that AI has a long way to go before its anything resembling a threat to their job security.

    Meanwhile, artists have been spending decades, even centuries pushing the criteria for judging art further and further away from what's immediately obvious to the layperson, so random gays on sumerian llama juggling forums are more likely to make declarations like "it's over, human art is dead," and more likely to accuse experts in the field of damage control when they point out how far AI still has to go to match a skilled human artist.

    Just look at how many people accuse programmers of coping and seething for pointing out that ChatGPT is actually terrible at programming, when proving it is as simple as attempting to run the AI generated code.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I have seen thousands of images made with stable diffusion. They lack detail and have a bias towards certain poses and compositions (object not centered, blurry background). I think that with one or two more iterations the images will look indistinguishable from real images.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Sure, and maybe GPT-4 will be decent at programming. But in their current state, the best AIs output garbage that looks like code, and garbage that looks like art. Obviously, it doesn't matter how much garbage code looks like code if it doesn't compile, but it's more of a problem when garbage art looks like art. Obviously it's going to be threatening to artists when it has brain damaged normies questioning whether artists should even exist even when the "replacement" is so obviously deficient.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Programmers are much better at coping than artists. Enjoy the bread line code monkeys

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/ulKxLFL.png

      Scientists:
      >Holy shit this AI can write papers?
      >Awesome! I'm gonna use it to triple my production
      Programmers
      >Holy shit this AI can write and debug code?
      >Awesome! I'm gonna use it as my personal assistant and become 10X dev
      Artists
      >Holy shit this AI can make digital art?
      >REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE IT'S NOT REAL ART IT'S NOT EVEN INTELLIGENCE #CANCEL THIS IMMEDIATELY

      What causes this phenomenon?

      There is literally a class action lawsuits filed by open source programmer and only open source programmer right now because they feel threatened by AI that can code. Don't cope about it

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        There's a class action lawsuit because Microsoft ignored the license on open source software when training CoPilot and open source losers go to sleep dreaming of getting to sue Microsoft for license violation.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Copilot is a paid program and no one outside of microsoft knows how it works. For all we know it searches github and pastes code without respecting licensing. Its a different situation entirely. No one is suing over chatgpt even though it can also produce code.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >bread line
      Heh. It's not the 30's anymore. The only bread we'll eat will be from dumpsters.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Programmers
    >>Holy shit this AI can write and debug code!? Awesome!
    >>No, wait. This code is awful. It's not even consistent in the particular way it's awful, every single thing it writes needs to be meticulously vetted, taking 10x the amount of effort than it would have done to write it myself, this shit's worse than Junior code only without the possibility of it getting better in the future
    FTFY.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >without the possibility of it getting better in the future

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Researchers get free grant money. Programmers get paid for doing actual work. Artists live off social status and an AI creating works that are liked more than their own means they're irrelevant.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You can automate everything in life. YOU should be scared. It's coming for all of ya.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I can't even automate paying some bill on my bank's website using present day technology.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Turns out school papers were always worthless.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Scientists:
    >>Holy shit this AI can write papers?
    ! I'm gonna use it to triple my production
    definitely not
    it is used for making fake scientific paper by government""s"" and spread misinformation and make information access more difficult

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      No, what OP says is exactly how people around me reacted to the paper generator bots. One of the first things we did with it was use it to fix garbled ESL nonsense written by a low performing tard at our institute and send it back to him.

      t. scientist

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I

        >Scientists:
        >>Holy shit this AI can write papers?
        ! I'm gonna use it to triple my production
        definitely not
        it is used for making fake scientific paper by government""s"" and spread misinformation and make information access more difficult

        was talking about this in case you didn't know
        https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/386810442/

        Are you saying that AI was used as fancy grammatical and style english corrector?

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Programmer:
    >AI can do simple code?
    >Panic little that juniors get fucked over, since to even prompt the AI you need meticulous knowledge of computer science
    >Stop worrying since it turns out to make garbage code
    Scientist:
    >AI can do 90% of my work?
    >Awesome, let’s produce ten times the amount of research since science has endless demand unlike other jobs revolving around making products and services
    Artist:
    >AI can do stuff I tell it to?
    >Cool, I could you it to make backgrounds, probably not
    >What? It can do the entire picture if you just tell it to? We’ll I will not really use it since I imagined the picture slightly differently in my head
    >What? It can make the whole picture and make it better looking then I do? It can run on any device and takes few seconds to make the picture? But this thing does 100% of my job. And I can’t really compete since the demand and market are limited
    >AI fucked me over
    AI is real threat only to artists here. Scientists have infinite demand and are not paid for selling competing research with limited demand. Grants will give them money regardless of how much research they produce. Plus 40 times more research is always good

    Programmers have been automated like 5 times now by making the bottom line easier or automated, so higher skilled programmers can move up the ladder. There are also ladders in art as well where artist can move from 2D to animation to then movies, but in case of programmers the highest tier of the ladder is AI research itself, which is basically the AI endgame. Once programmers are fully automated, then everything will soon follow as AI will then create other AI to do all the jobs not automated yet.

    Artgays are the only ones here at risk. Artgays didn’t care about AI replacing them until recently when it proved it absolutely can 100% replace them soon. There are already models for shitty video, shitty 3D, shitty writings shitty music and good images. Moving up is not an option.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    My boss once told me, if my job could be replaced by a pajeet, my job was basically worth nothing. Now the same can be said for ai.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      AI art blew up overnight basically. Works worth 10k and taking so much talent and hard effort can be replicated in seconds by AI. Masters of old whose craft was so valuable, that people teach about it in history classes is now replaceable by algorithm looking for patterns in noise. This is why artists are also mad. Work that had insanely high value is now being done by robot, seemingly out of nowhere.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The problem with AI art is that its a positive feed back control system. If everyone uses AI art without new innovation, all the art in the world will start to look like AI when it reaches equilibrium

        AI art is not unethical, seethe

        [...]

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The problem with AI art is that its a positive feed back control system. If everyone uses AI art without new innovation, all the art in the world will start to look like AI when it reaches equilibrium

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    artists are justifiably insecure as their work requires incredible amounts of time and effort and hardly provides any value, they are being directly replaced

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