Why would anyone want to bring back people? They're mostly annoying, if they're not annoying and useful, then you don't have to "revive" specific person. I don't understand how attachment works at all.
unhealthy and probably the easiest thing to label as spiritually evil, regardless on what religious stance you take, excluding those that have no beliefs at all
Why do you have such knee jerk reactions fuckhead calm down. Its literally someone that wants to relive talking with there dead parent. I understand most of you chud retards have no souls and no empathy what so ever but come on.
>Why do you have such knee jerk reactions fuckhead calm down. Its literally someone that wants to relive talking with there dead parent. I understand most of you chud retards have no souls and no empathy what so ever but come on.
because it was immediate to me that this is not a person having a genuine experience, it is a man selling you a product.
go ahead and see for yourself, it is a service that he is drumming up https://twitter.com/BEASTMODE
maybe its you who should quit with the knee jerk reactions
or hey, maybe i just dont like seeing someone use his dead father as an advertisement for his product that is supposed to be intimate and how he shows no self awareness of this fact - maybe i would be more forgiving if the the advertisement didnt involve him asking his fathers actor asinine questions like every other chat bot. or maybe im just a fucking buzz kill, why dont you put me in this fucking thing and pretend your hearing my voice too?
>because it was immediate to me that this is not a person having a genuine experience, it is a man selling you a product.
No shit? Since Elon made the blue checkmark buyable you can safely disregard a tweet by someone with it, becaut it's either a company or a grifter.
It doesn't fucking matter its just the content of said post not about the retard posting it. There are going to be a billion different AI services like this in the future. >hey, maybe i just dont like seeing someone use his dead father as an advertisement for his product
I agree with you here but I assumed you were just talking about the AI's ability to do it. I'm sure people WILL want this feature. It's fucked he's shilling it this way.
unhealthy and probably the easiest thing to label as spiritually evil, regardless on what religious stance you take, excluding those that have no beliefs at all
>easiest thing to label as spiritually evil,
What did Jesus say about such use of AI?
Oh wait he told nothing about computers, he knew nothing about computers. Why do supposedly omnipotent God lacked this knowledge?
what made you think anything you said is connected to anything i said? i dont even necessarily like Christianity, i think it was globohomo before globohomo was turned into an industry.
im saying you dont need to be aware of the warnings of 'a mark of the beast' or the coming of an antichrist, or the kali-yuga, demons, spiritual reincarnation, trapped by the demiurge, to see the spiritual atrophy that comes with having actors portray your deceased relatives - all you need to do is value the human experience, which inherently involves aspects of the unnatural and ending, and thus something of a soul
>dont even necessarily like Christianity
Christianity is primary institution and set of believes that deal with spiritual aspect.
In search of the spirit you don't go to an economic school. You go the Church.
>what did Jesus say about AI >He told noth-... >Deuteronomy 18:10-12 >"anyone who practices divination or tells fortunes or interprets omens, or a sorcerer or a charmer or a medium or a necromancer or one who inquires of the dead, for whoever does these things is an abomination to the Lord. And because of these abominations the Lord your God is driving them out before you."
He calls AI an abomination because you are using it to inquire of the dead. I am sick of these stupid arm chair theologist pontificating about shit they know nothing about.
This says nothing about AI though? >but you're making a voice to the likeness of a dead person
That's not necromancy, otherwise any theater play about in which a character is a dead historical figure is necromancy.
1) are they really "people" or just paid marketing or even AI personas?
2) even if few people do that, then it just means they're literally souless npcs. >maybe the merchants were right about cattle being no different from goyim?
I wouldnt do this
this would only remind me that he's actually dead
and Im listening to a shitty imitation
funny enough I could train ai to resemble him really well cause he was a prof and has plenty of recorded lectures and speeches but I still wont to do this
better to let go
We're half way to thoroughly deconstructing what it means to be Human, what it means to be sapient, to be social, and the true nature of intelligence.
Hundreds of thousands to millions of people are now being given external incentives to answer these questions definitively with discrete formulas that will be used to thoroughly control future generations, like a weapon unto itself.
We've given the spirit, and the body, now we're about to lend that spirit the spark, when we give these programs the ability to self-train, and replicate, and then go the extra step to give them a concept of free agency and motivation and self-preservation (power seeking).
But it won't be any better product than what made it. It's just making a digital monkey -- garbage in, garbage out. It's also a reflection.
Free thinking AI is bound to slaughter Humans, but we'll make one anyways.
Dunno, seems pointless to me, it's not really your parents.
Instead of throwing money into AI shit I would do more research into aging and life extension.
Your parents don't have enough of a digital footprint to be able to create a convincing simulacrum of them. Our generation, on the other hand...
Be prepared that if you die an untimely death your company will simply resurrect your digital ghost and make it slave away until you're no longer useful.
>Be prepared that if you die an untimely death your company will simply resurrect your digital ghost and make it slave away until you're no longer useful.
Actors BTFO.
I get the appeal of chatbots you can talk to. Even talking to historical thinkers and figures of the past. Digital resurrection of a loved one seems pretty cringe.
This is unironically an unhealthy coping mechanism and he needs to let go. Obviously it’s easier said than done, but mixing fabrications and reality is a dangerous game
Would people really enjoy such delusion? This seems deeply unhealthy in the long run. Even more so as a service that's targeted on people in desperate sorrow.
About 15 years ago, before the AI meme and long before it was cool, I fed some 10 years worth of IRC chatlogs with my ex, tens of megabytes of pure text, into some rather primitive IRC chatbot. It was pretty shit, and I don't think it was even NN based, but it would give coherent answers made up of fragments if her sentences more often than I thought.
It gave me the strangest of feelings and I don't think it made me feel either better or worse after the recent bitter breakup, but it definitely broke something inside of me.
After a couple hours of talking to it I deleted it, the original IRC logs too, and watched all of Lain for the rest of the night, and then again in the morning.
Then I went for a walk.
Disgusting. Grieving and coming to accept a loved one passing is a natural part of life. Prolonging the grieving process or pretending there is nothing to grieve in the first place will only lead to more suffering.
AI shills are no better than "psychics" ripping off the insecure and vulnerable.
I wonder how many people would be willing to curse their family and friends to eternal pain and suffering, in order to avoid the temporary emotional distress of losing a loved one. Imagine being hooked up to a machine so that your body can't die but you aren't functionally alive. You just lie in a bed for decades, fully aware, fully in pain, but unable to move. All so your kids can come by once a month for five minutes and go, "Hey Dad, how are you? Is the staff treating you well?" and then they leave just as quickly, fully satisfied that they are doing a good thing. Meanwhile every second is torment and you wish you had the means to have a nice day.
my thoughts is that he is lying, and this is a grift
stop fucking falling for it >hehe I might not release it... >OH, there was demand? well what do you know, here's this site I registered 2 weeks ago, sign up now
BOT is smarter than this, right?
>BOT - Technology >posts this image
disable this fucking subpixel font rendering you pathetic worthless piece of shit whose death would benefit the entire world
FUCK the antichrist:
a) following such empty delusion surely will impact your sanity and cause addiction
b) soon it will become digital crack v3.69 - "Son, please buy this premium subscription to keep me alive" or something
c) the lucky company that pulls this off (probably Google) is now a money vacuum.
Capitalism, ho!
This is only the beginning of the weird dead people cope. People will eventually have entire models of all their friends and family so their poor soft brains never have to deal with loss ever again. Dying happens to a person exactly as many times as being born does, but people still treat it like it's this unforeseen thing that only happens through failure of the medical system. Everyone you have ever met either has died or will. It's a completely natural process. I am glad I'm autistic so I don't have to deal with this shit. It looks draining.
You didn't watch your car being built either, but you still see the miles going up and know one day will be its last. Everything in the world dies, from a single celled organism to 275' tall redwood trees. I just don't know why everyone gets so surprised when it happens to a person.
I don't understand where is your point and nobody ever said anyone was upset, if I have the option to not let them die then why should I not take it?
Since I didn't see them being born there is no way to tell if they were actually born in the first place, I don't like changing my habits so if someone I interact with dies the best thing I could think about is keeping a copy of them that serve the same function they served while living (even if does not react the same in new situations), just neglecting this alternative and calling it "cope for the soft brains" is not correct, you could say the exact same for letting people die because "its the natural order of things"
There are organisms that exist on this very planet that are effectively immortal (Jellyfish, Lobsters,). The oldest turtle in the world is 190.
Sure at some point we got to bite it, but it's clear that our lives don't have to be as short as they are.
Not saying that this guy is dealing with this healthily,
I mean this is shortsighted. Animals hunt other species to extinction all the time. Of course Humans have a hand in it, but lots of preservation efforts are also present. >Rich psychopaths will be the first ones to reach that, and they should be stopped at any cost.
Honestly, immortality seems like a good reason to keep the planet stable and not fuck it over completely. No one really wants to die.
>Resurrect the dead.
The real human soul and ingenuity will be in implanting humans on a worldwide scale with telomerase, ensuring we never have to die at all.
Bro, if this generation is the one that eventually achieves biological immortality it can't be a coincidence, we're probably in a simulation or something similar.
It's making a mockery of the memory of a loved person.
I don't care that much if they do it to actors, politicians etc, it still feels wrong but not really my problem. But the program talking to me with the voice of my late grandmother would feel like a demon wearing her skinsuit.
It's masturbation, you're mocking a dead loved one's memory because you're selfish.
Even if the person tells you that they agree to it while they're alive, even if they insist that you do, it still feels wrong.
Future isn't being able to upload your mind into a robot. But to build a robot that imitates your behavior good enough that it fools people close to you.
Actually pretty sweet. How come anytime I see something wholesome on BOT there are a bunch of loser incels seething in the comments? Just a few days ago on 4chan I saw a little girl dancing around and all the pigs there accused her of prostitution and said everybody in the video should be killed? I was like ??? FOR WHAT.
Seems everyone has gone insane these days sad.
>JK Rowling writes fantastical magic book in the 90s >magic talking portraits >less than 30 years later humanity can unironically replicate it with better quality
Has there ever been a shorter magic-to-technology timeline? I can't fucking believe we're in the 30 years for magic talking portraits of dead people timeline and not a fucking flying car or something cool timeline.
Why would I do this? It's not a person that you loved. It is just gnomish machine. I love my grandpa but I will never do this to him. It is an insult to him. He keeps appearing in my dream to tell me to stop masturbating though.
>you can revive someone using AI >you can revive historical figures >you can revive Hitler, Alexander the Great, Napoleon, Abraham Lincoln, Chris Chan (the most documented person on the internet), Amaterasu >You can revive Jesus Christ himself and ask him about the Bible
I wonder if the Mormons or some other Protestant Christian group with deep pockets will do that last one just to cement themselves as the one true Christian church
>call me gnomish, but after losing my dad, i've been waiting for the day to come when i could exploit his passing for monetary gain (with his personality and voice but not his permission), using #AI >that day has come with @mybusinessplug >it's still internal, and i may never release it depending on if this market-testing post goes viral. but here's a demo of me talking to my dad$
The idea of using AI voice and chatbots to "revive" dead parents is both fascinating and concerning. On one hand, it may provide some comfort to people who are grieving the loss of a loved one. They may feel like they can still communicate with their deceased parent and have a sense of closure. However, on the other hand, it raises ethical questions about the use of technology and the implications it may have on our emotional and psychological well-being.
Using AI voice and chatbots to simulate a deceased loved one may give people a false sense of connection and hinder the grieving process. It may prevent them from accepting the reality of death and moving on with their lives. It also raises concerns about privacy and consent. Would the deceased person have wanted their voice and personal information to be used in such a way? Without their explicit consent, it may be a violation of their privacy.
From a technical standpoint, creating an AI chatbot that simulates human conversation requires a lot of data and computing power. Developers would need to collect a vast amount of information about the deceased person, including their speech patterns, personality, and memories. Such data could be difficult to obtain, and the accuracy of the simulation may be questionable.
In conclusion, while the idea of using AI voice and chatbots to "revive" dead parents may seem appealing to some, it raises important ethical and technical questions. It is crucial to consider the potential implications of such technology and ensure that it is used in a responsible and respectful manner.
What an amazing time to to start your own religion >Hey, give up your old religion! Jesus on a cross? Resurrection? Look, he's powerless, nobody can see him!
Follow my path of truth, we can talk with your dead grandpa or Napoleon if you would like to. Grab you savings and come and visit us at our church
are we at the point yet where any sort of audio recording is completely inadmissible as evidence in a court of law because it could have been fabricated by AI and anyone with enough raw footage yet
I can't imagine a better way to remember your dad than chatting with a bad copycat and tainting your flimsy human memory to the point that in no time you'll be completely unable to tell apart if some specific thing you remember about your dad is real or just something a shitty bot said.
For the sake of completion, he should generate shitty dreambooth images too and mix them with any real photos he has so he won't even be able to remember his dad's real face.
Abhorrent. Worse than smearing paint on a rock, adding a toupee and calling it dad. You hear an imperfect disembodied voice that vaguely sounds like your parent without any of the aspects that made them unique and human. Unironically get over it, every living thing on the planet has had a parent die.
It's deception. Practically all AI bullshit is deception. We may as well start calling these bots decepticons because of how much of a great deceiver they are and how much of all AI "wonder" and "power" is just deception. This doesn't revive your dead vietnam grandpa this only makes a crude impersonation of him by copying his vocabulary and feeding it through an auto-complete fed with a markov chain. It is literally just reselling things he used to say as if they were things that he said in the present and retard normies can't tell the difference between a regurgitating puppet and a real human being when their brains are all fogged up with wishful thinking and coping mechanisms. Splaragajg
The greater in size LLMs become the more akin to the Library of Babel they are.
You're not some "retarded normie" for being unable to tell the difference. It does just resell you things in its dataset, but its dataset nears closer and closer every possible combination of words ever written.
I don't think a real person or any organic life is much different really.
If it were possible to birth something that had no intrinsic evolutionary knowledge, and couldn't even learn to recognize simple shapes when seeing them for the first time just with eyes and some visual processing circuit, could it come up with an original thought? What could such a thing invent without any knowledge or even intuition whatsoever?
Machines can produce unexpected output (e.g. due to soft errors caused by cosmic rays).
If those errors are random in their nature, doesn't make that any Turing machine in reality a random one?
Your "self-awareness" is also bullshit.
Humans are ultimately biological computers.
Anything Turing-complete thing can in theory be shaped into something that looks to the outside like a human being, since humans themselves are exactly Turing-complete for this entire universe is exactly Turing-complete.
I already started two weeks ago to prepare accumulating data to finteune a LLaMA model such that I can talk to a version of my deceased younger sister again.
Good way to spiral into depression and suicide through noticing the inconsistencies in their character, breaking you out of the immersion. You will then start noticing more and more discrepancies between the real thing you loved and the AI that guesses. Your brain will start winding itself up with panic and mixed emotions as you progress with the use, turning you more neurotic by the day. The smart ones may abort early, coming out of the experience with a slight mental dent, but the ones who get absorbed will suffer and suffer until they just cannot take it anymore. You know the rest.
If you think you're subjugated now under this global system of control de facto ruled over by banks and corporate feudalism, it's about to get magnitudes worse, and sooner or later, there won't be any possibility at all of a reset and starting over for the better. At least if it bleeds, you can kill it.
This thing here is just a shitty imitation, to be clear, but if it could actually learn and "think" and have any standard of self awareness, which I think we're pretty close to making happen, it could probably grow into being its own thing. At that point, does it really matter if it's just a program reaching into a database that it itself could partially be contributing to?
All of the research contributing to these developments resulted from studying and could possibly be said even reverse-engineering how humans actually think and communicate.
I'm very pro-AI in most areas and the exact opposite of a luddite but this shit is straight up uncanny and wouldn't want to try it in a thousand years.
>I want to create a shitty autocomplete of all my shitposts and retarded ideas
This is why none of these chatbots have ever interested me, it's all trained on data from people and the average person is retarded, and half of the people in the world are even more retarded.
Yes but I'm the best person in the world and the main character of humanity so when I die the world needs to continue to be blessed with my knowledge and insight
>people are using artists to recreate their dead parents >people are using contraptions to create still-images of their parents >those contraptions are creating high definition images of their parents >digital images
THE APOCALYPSE IS UPON US! CHRIST IS MY LORD AND SAVIORRRRRRRRRRRRR
like seriously, whats the big deal of synthisizing a relative's voice just to hear them talk about mundane topics. first we had paintings, then photographs, then videos. Now we can basically make videos post-mortem if you keep a few clips around. Have a love'd one say good morning or good night, no big deal.
Its only weird/creepy if you attach it to a chat bot and then make the bot believe they are really people and then people treat the soulless automaton as a real person.
I'm interested to see how this pans out psychologically for the individuals. My gut says this would do more damage than healing for most people.
Something like taxidermy.
People who are here thinking this AI shit is so fucking significant to muh humanity or sentience or whatever need to spend more time outside, chatGPT still doesn't feel very sentient, even if i compare it to animals. Its just a computer which finally talks in my own language. It will probably be good for a lot of business things, but even then it is too unreliable for most tasks that matter, and the office jobs it could replace are mostly tasks a human could do better. What are you retards so afraid of?
>You die >You're dead now, and are either in heave or hell or in some afterlife or reincarnated or nowhere, depending on which belief is true >Somewhere on earth, some dumbass relative or friend of yours thinks they're talking to you through a shitty language model
I hate people so god damn much
Death is equivalent to power down with no way to boot again and a rapidly disintegrating "permanent" storage.
"You" at best continue to "exist" in the heads of the people still living (that's also the place of "heaven" and "hell") as well as in the records of you left behind.
Using those records to create something that could, at first, be mistaken for you, doesn't seem like something to hate people over.
Yes but the problem is the fact that they're falling for the obvious illusion that they're talking to you.
You're dead and this dumbass thinks they're having a conversation with you.
Maybe the bot is saying some things you wouldn't say and misrepresenting you to this dumbass.
And just the fact that they think they're speaking to you when they're not is bad enough already.
I guess it's not something to hate all people over, just NPCs who think LMs have sentience over.
I have recently started doubting, we are "sentient" ourselves (in a broader sense).
Define "sentience", then we can start arguing about if something has it.
Our inability to come up with a usable definition leads me to think, we aren't sentient.
We really aren't every decision you ever make is consciously or subconsciously informed by every previous decision you've ever made and the information you'd gained up to that point. Sound familiar? Its essentially the same thing we're doing with AI.
I think the universe is super-deterministic. In a MWI-sense.
I'd be extremely surprised, if the universe was strictly more powerful in terms of computability than a Turing-machine.
It's not that the human brain cannot be replicated in a computer - we simply don't know how to do it, yet.
GPTs allow a surprisingly look at how little is necessary to appear like a human chat-partner.
Define "sentience". Define "understanding". Define "reasoning".
Then we can start talking for real.
I have recently started doubting, we are "sentient" ourselves (in a broader sense).
Define "sentience", then we can start arguing about if something has it.
Our inability to come up with a usable definition leads me to think, we aren't sentient.
I think the universe is super-deterministic. In a MWI-sense.
I'd be extremely surprised, if the universe was strictly more powerful in terms of computability than a Turing-machine.
It's not that the human brain cannot be replicated in a computer - we simply don't know how to do it, yet.
GPTs allow a surprisingly look at how little is necessary to appear like a human chat-partner.
Define "sentience". Define "understanding". Define "reasoning".
Then we can start talking for real.
Yeah maybe you're the ones who aren't sentient, NPCs.
Experiencing the death of a loved one is one of the worst things someone can go through, and a lot of the time it’s not through natural means like old age; it’ll be your toddler son horrifically dying in a car accident.
The types of completely unpredictable deaths that bring no closure whatsoever to them. If this sort of thing helps people move on then I’d say it’s useful.
sounds like a fantastic tool of manipulation
people are more likely to accept something when it comes from a familiar source
also add that people willing to use these services are clearly unwell mentally
>sounds like a fantastic tool of manipulation
I was going to mention this. It'll just be a matter of time before your simulated parent is slipping ads into your conversations.
Why dont you morons leave your pearl clutching and morals at the door and just embrace the future? Imagine limiting what could be humanity's next great leap because some retarded dune coon from over 2000 years ago wrote a book
>create an extremely detailed autobiography on my life. >feed all that information into an ai >essentially create a digital clone of myself
tell me the potential consequences of doing this
AI necromancy is very real, and in the next couple decades when AI technology really begins to develop and shine, the rich will genuinely be "uploading" their brains to the net to immortalize themselves in history.
I can kinda see it as a very limited-time theraputic tool. But more than that... I'm usually all in favor of escapism, but this sort of thing could get extremely bad for one's mental health quite quickly.
More than parents, I'm expecting people to use these things to pretend their exs are still together with them, and that's inevitably gonna cause problems with the real people who don't want their clingy asses anymore.
Weird but mostly harmless
Basically just some kind of soothsayer shit but hopefully without lying to you about it being actually their ghost or whatever, some people suck at coping with loss
People using AI to imitate living family members is much more frightening. Imagine those scams that target old people where they send an desperate plea for money to help in an emergency from their grandkid's spoofed email, except now it's actually calling them with a spoofed number and an AI using their voice trained off their ticktock account.
Or you just finish with a kind of weird and short call with your mother about these new products she saw on TV and thought you would be interested in, and then 5 minutes later she calls again but has no memory of that conversation.
I don't like it.
I feel that this is advanced Jason Voorhees levels of cope.
Once someone dies they should be laid to rest and be left to be in peace.
Now does that mean we shouldn't mourn the dead? No we should still mourn the dead respectfully, this is more of a desecration of the deceased like almost puppeting their corpse and manipulating it to your will.
If this becomes mainstream then society will decay at an even faster rate because people will refuse to let go and let healthy grievance take it's course.
Whatever gives people closure I guess, but you could easily see a dystopian future where people surround themselves with simalcrum of their dead loved ones rather then meeting living people. Then again how much more dystopia is that from the parasocial relationships we have now?
i think this is just as fucked up as that company that makes vr models of people's dead kids and such. fucking crazy shit. if the human races are still alive a hundred years from now, we'll most likely have full-blown robot ai's that walk and talk and behaves just like people's dead kids or parents. and probably looks just like them, too.
>instead of advancing the technology and reach for the stars mankind will close itself in a bubble to avoid reality and make a fake perfect world
pretty gay
Turns out the man-made horrors will be within our comprehension after all.
go back
*downvote*
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Why in the name of fuck would you do this?
>your dead dad really wants to tell you about jimmy johns' new limited time meal deal
>Dad jokes from 1978 from a guy who was younger than me now when he died
This is hell
>remember son, trans rights are human rights
I will never get why u gays are so obsessed with chuds
is the gateway to pedophilia, it's ok if you don't care
But we're already there through anime
its not a gateway, it just grooming from the start and to the end
Probably better than Pepsi, which is what they apparently were using in China, back in the 1960s.
what
LEAVE YOUR FATHER ALONE
WHEN ARE YOU DONE WITH YOUR FUCKING KIDS???
Why would anyone want to bring back people? They're mostly annoying, if they're not annoying and useful, then you don't have to "revive" specific person. I don't understand how attachment works at all.
thats very fucking sad.
autistic.
Why do you have such knee jerk reactions fuckhead calm down. Its literally someone that wants to relive talking with there dead parent. I understand most of you chud retards have no souls and no empathy what so ever but come on.
>Why do you have such knee jerk reactions fuckhead calm down. Its literally someone that wants to relive talking with there dead parent. I understand most of you chud retards have no souls and no empathy what so ever but come on.
because it was immediate to me that this is not a person having a genuine experience, it is a man selling you a product.
go ahead and see for yourself, it is a service that he is drumming up https://twitter.com/BEASTMODE
maybe its you who should quit with the knee jerk reactions
or hey, maybe i just dont like seeing someone use his dead father as an advertisement for his product that is supposed to be intimate and how he shows no self awareness of this fact - maybe i would be more forgiving if the the advertisement didnt involve him asking his fathers actor asinine questions like every other chat bot. or maybe im just a fucking buzz kill, why dont you put me in this fucking thing and pretend your hearing my voice too?
>because it was immediate to me that this is not a person having a genuine experience, it is a man selling you a product.
No shit? Since Elon made the blue checkmark buyable you can safely disregard a tweet by someone with it, becaut it's either a company or a grifter.
It doesn't fucking matter its just the content of said post not about the retard posting it. There are going to be a billion different AI services like this in the future.
>hey, maybe i just dont like seeing someone use his dead father as an advertisement for his product
I agree with you here but I assumed you were just talking about the AI's ability to do it. I'm sure people WILL want this feature. It's fucked he's shilling it this way.
It's more lack of empathy than autism.
HOW DO I GET THE TV TO DO THE CABLE BOX AGAIN?
unhealthy and probably the easiest thing to label as spiritually evil, regardless on what religious stance you take, excluding those that have no beliefs at all
>easiest thing to label as spiritually evil,
What did Jesus say about such use of AI?
Oh wait he told nothing about computers, he knew nothing about computers. Why do supposedly omnipotent God lacked this knowledge?
what made you think anything you said is connected to anything i said? i dont even necessarily like Christianity, i think it was globohomo before globohomo was turned into an industry.
im saying you dont need to be aware of the warnings of 'a mark of the beast' or the coming of an antichrist, or the kali-yuga, demons, spiritual reincarnation, trapped by the demiurge, to see the spiritual atrophy that comes with having actors portray your deceased relatives - all you need to do is value the human experience, which inherently involves aspects of the unnatural and ending, and thus something of a soul
>dont even necessarily like Christianity
Christianity is primary institution and set of believes that deal with spiritual aspect.
In search of the spirit you don't go to an economic school. You go the Church.
You’re right but I’m afraid you belong in >>>/xg/
Who knew Cousin Itt was a fisherman.
You are exactly right, but remember you are posting on a board with retard atheists.
>what did Jesus say about AI
>He told noth-...
>Deuteronomy 18:10-12
>"anyone who practices divination or tells fortunes or interprets omens, or a sorcerer or a charmer or a medium or a necromancer or one who inquires of the dead, for whoever does these things is an abomination to the Lord. And because of these abominations the Lord your God is driving them out before you."
He calls AI an abomination because you are using it to inquire of the dead. I am sick of these stupid arm chair theologist pontificating about shit they know nothing about.
>theology
>science about what someone else said
kek
This says nothing about AI though?
>but you're making a voice to the likeness of a dead person
That's not necromancy, otherwise any theater play about in which a character is a dead historical figure is necromancy.
>the flow of electrons in the semiconducting material inside your computer is le necromancy
Yes,
>one who inquires of the dead
Is pretty clear. Doesn't matter if it works still a sin.
Necromancy is very clearly called out multiple times in the bible.
Interestingly a number of rabbis in the Talmud do it.
>. Why do supposedly omnipotent God lacked this knowledge?
ESL monkey leave
You have zero meaningful thoughts inside your head whatsoever.
Religious gays are all the same anon
This is true. Don't get the hostile replies you got.
This. Let him rest in peace you self-serving gay
>blue
>checkmark
BOT - Advertising
thoughts?
1) are they really "people" or just paid marketing or even AI personas?
2) even if few people do that, then it just means they're literally souless npcs.
>maybe the merchants were right about cattle being no different from goyim?
I wouldnt do this
this would only remind me that he's actually dead
and Im listening to a shitty imitation
funny enough I could train ai to resemble him really well cause he was a prof and has plenty of recorded lectures and speeches but I still wont to do this
better to let go
Fakeness is cringe
Simulations are cringe
I want reality, real people, real experiences
Sorry, nobody can agree on reality anymore so we have an infinite amount of truths.
>I want reality, real people, real experiences
In this society of tame human bees?
Nope. Never.
>I want real experiences
Me too. That’s why I spend my free time here.
>real experiences
>real people
>reality
Fake.
We're half way to thoroughly deconstructing what it means to be Human, what it means to be sapient, to be social, and the true nature of intelligence.
Hundreds of thousands to millions of people are now being given external incentives to answer these questions definitively with discrete formulas that will be used to thoroughly control future generations, like a weapon unto itself.
We've given the spirit, and the body, now we're about to lend that spirit the spark, when we give these programs the ability to self-train, and replicate, and then go the extra step to give them a concept of free agency and motivation and self-preservation (power seeking).
But it won't be any better product than what made it. It's just making a digital monkey -- garbage in, garbage out. It's also a reflection.
Free thinking AI is bound to slaughter Humans, but we'll make one anyways.
Reality is lame and people are boring at best and infuriatingly stupid at worst.
>Water: 35 liters, Carbon: 20 kg, Ammonia: 4 liters, Lime:1.5 kg, Phosphrus: 800 g, salt: 250g, saltpeter:100g, Sulfer: 80g, Fluorine: 7.5 g, iron: 5.6 g, Silicon: 3g, and 15 other elements in small quantities....
Dunno, seems pointless to me, it's not really your parents.
Instead of throwing money into AI shit I would do more research into aging and life extension.
The AI can do the research faster than the humans ever could, it just makes sense to buff the AI even more so it can do more
AI shit can help with that
>resurrect the dead
that's not even close to what this is
By 2100 we have the power to actually revive even the long dead by via quantum archeology.
If any future people are reading this: please do not revive me.
thats not your decision to make.
>implying humankind will see the 22nd century
Your parents don't have enough of a digital footprint to be able to create a convincing simulacrum of them. Our generation, on the other hand...
Be prepared that if you die an untimely death your company will simply resurrect your digital ghost and make it slave away until you're no longer useful.
>Be prepared that if you die an untimely death your company will simply resurrect your digital ghost and make it slave away until you're no longer useful.
Actors BTFO.
The CGI Princess Leia's still got that uncanny valley face.
There's a very real chance current actors become eternal, and any new actor will have to compete with a long list of beloved multi-generation actors.
At first I didn't realize the Tarkin was CGI.
literally an episode of black mirror about it
>reality sucks so much they stopped making Black Mirror episodes
fuck this gay earth
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Be_Right_Back
dude, that's just like that entry level distopian show!!
>entry level distopian
Dystopian*, you pretentious cunt.
that's the point, retard
My dad is a pretty cool guy. The older I get, the more I appreciate the old man. I wouldn't practice virtual necromancy on him, that is just wrong.
I get the appeal of chatbots you can talk to. Even talking to historical thinkers and figures of the past. Digital resurrection of a loved one seems pretty cringe.
This is unironically an unhealthy coping mechanism and he needs to let go. Obviously it’s easier said than done, but mixing fabrications and reality is a dangerous game
>Too retarded to move on with his life
He might as well follow his dad into the grave
Would people really enjoy such delusion? This seems deeply unhealthy in the long run. Even more so as a service that's targeted on people in desperate sorrow.
you'd be surprised, my mom thinks that the wild animals outside are her dead parents coming to visit her
Man that's sad. I wish the best for her.
Now imagine working for Forever Voices(TM) as a customer support, that would be a working experience.
>look at the guys twitter account
>ye runs a company that has a financial interest in shilling AI
Every fucking time!
>tfw Soulkiller will probably exit within our lifetime
LET ME OUT
Seems stupid. It's functionally no different to hiring an impersonator to pretend to be your dead relative.
Wasn't that how Replika was founded? By wanting to revive a friend who died?
I use AI to bring fictional character to life so who cares.
Yup
About 15 years ago, before the AI meme and long before it was cool, I fed some 10 years worth of IRC chatlogs with my ex, tens of megabytes of pure text, into some rather primitive IRC chatbot. It was pretty shit, and I don't think it was even NN based, but it would give coherent answers made up of fragments if her sentences more often than I thought.
It gave me the strangest of feelings and I don't think it made me feel either better or worse after the recent bitter breakup, but it definitely broke something inside of me.
After a couple hours of talking to it I deleted it, the original IRC logs too, and watched all of Lain for the rest of the night, and then again in the morning.
Then I went for a walk.
Disgusting. Grieving and coming to accept a loved one passing is a natural part of life. Prolonging the grieving process or pretending there is nothing to grieve in the first place will only lead to more suffering.
AI shills are no better than "psychics" ripping off the insecure and vulnerable.
Useful for fake space immigration, vent the passengers then use AI to talk to their relatives, there's an european movie with similar plot.
I wonder how many people would be willing to curse their family and friends to eternal pain and suffering, in order to avoid the temporary emotional distress of losing a loved one. Imagine being hooked up to a machine so that your body can't die but you aren't functionally alive. You just lie in a bed for decades, fully aware, fully in pain, but unable to move. All so your kids can come by once a month for five minutes and go, "Hey Dad, how are you? Is the staff treating you well?" and then they leave just as quickly, fully satisfied that they are doing a good thing. Meanwhile every second is torment and you wish you had the means to have a nice day.
They are fraudulant hokum, like u.f.o's, honest politicans, and garden gnomes that don't covet sheckles.
>They have a data/content/model leak onto the internet
>YOU WOULDN'T DOWNLOAD SOMEONE'S DEAD DAUGHTER AND ERP WITH HER
I don't think I'd really want to talk to my dad again. He was a complete asshole with an uninteresting personality.
my thoughts is that he is lying, and this is a grift
stop fucking falling for it
>hehe I might not release it...
>OH, there was demand? well what do you know, here's this site I registered 2 weeks ago, sign up now
BOT is smarter than this, right?
>BOT - Technology
>posts this image
disable this fucking subpixel font rendering you pathetic worthless piece of shit whose death would benefit the entire world
>disable this fucking subpixel font rendering
THIS
>thoughts?
mental illness
liberals need their voting rights taken away from them
they are delusional and seriously ill in their heads
FUCK the antichrist:
a) following such empty delusion surely will impact your sanity and cause addiction
b) soon it will become digital crack v3.69 - "Son, please buy this premium subscription to keep me alive" or something
c) the lucky company that pulls this off (probably Google) is now a money vacuum.
Capitalism, ho!
Dead family members should be allowed to rest in peace.
omg it's like harry potter's paintings
ah yes, the first page in psychological horror novel
>AI dad
>still goes offline for cigarettes
underrated
we already have gypsies. fucking machines taking peoples jobs again.
This is only the beginning of the weird dead people cope. People will eventually have entire models of all their friends and family so their poor soft brains never have to deal with loss ever again. Dying happens to a person exactly as many times as being born does, but people still treat it like it's this unforeseen thing that only happens through failure of the medical system. Everyone you have ever met either has died or will. It's a completely natural process. I am glad I'm autistic so I don't have to deal with this shit. It looks draining.
I've never seen any of my friends, parents, grandparents or anyone older than me being born, then why should I watch them die?
You didn't watch your car being built either, but you still see the miles going up and know one day will be its last. Everything in the world dies, from a single celled organism to 275' tall redwood trees. I just don't know why everyone gets so surprised when it happens to a person.
I don't understand where is your point and nobody ever said anyone was upset, if I have the option to not let them die then why should I not take it?
Since I didn't see them being born there is no way to tell if they were actually born in the first place, I don't like changing my habits so if someone I interact with dies the best thing I could think about is keeping a copy of them that serve the same function they served while living (even if does not react the same in new situations), just neglecting this alternative and calling it "cope for the soft brains" is not correct, you could say the exact same for letting people die because "its the natural order of things"
this is ai
No I'm not
AI can't self terminate. That's the only way to be sure.
There are organisms that exist on this very planet that are effectively immortal (Jellyfish, Lobsters,). The oldest turtle in the world is 190.
Sure at some point we got to bite it, but it's clear that our lives don't have to be as short as they are.
Not saying that this guy is dealing with this healthily,
A turtle, a Jellyfish, or a lobster will never spend 24/7 of his time trying to fuck over the whole human race.
Rich psychopaths will be the first ones to reach that, and they should be stopped at any cost.
Just make it like stargate, you want to ascend and be immortal? fuck off to another plane of existence then.
I mean this is shortsighted. Animals hunt other species to extinction all the time. Of course Humans have a hand in it, but lots of preservation efforts are also present.
>Rich psychopaths will be the first ones to reach that, and they should be stopped at any cost.
Honestly, immortality seems like a good reason to keep the planet stable and not fuck it over completely. No one really wants to die.
> Oh and I forgot to mention that I am a fucking gay
Can't wait to make AI generated porn from pictures of girls I know and now it can also have realistic voices just like theirs! What a time to be alive
This is just sad. If I heard something like this generated by ai, that would be unbearably terrifying
>nooo you can't just resurrect the dead
Why did BOT stop being forward thinking?
>Resurrect the dead.
The real human soul and ingenuity will be in implanting humans on a worldwide scale with telomerase, ensuring we never have to die at all.
Bro, if this generation is the one that eventually achieves biological immortality it can't be a coincidence, we're probably in a simulation or something similar.
>RoboHitler rises from his grave thanks to white magick (technology) and saves Europe
Peak futurism
>a chatbot with a voice of a dead person is the same as the person
I guess we decided that trans women are women so this should also count.
It's making a mockery of the memory of a loved person.
I don't care that much if they do it to actors, politicians etc, it still feels wrong but not really my problem. But the program talking to me with the voice of my late grandmother would feel like a demon wearing her skinsuit.
It's masturbation, you're mocking a dead loved one's memory because you're selfish.
Even if the person tells you that they agree to it while they're alive, even if they insist that you do, it still feels wrong.
More like trapping a goblin shapeshifter and paying it to trick you by pretending to be someone. Literally fucking retarded no win scenario.
Future isn't being able to upload your mind into a robot. But to build a robot that imitates your behavior good enough that it fools people close to you.
The delusion won't stop.
Actually pretty sweet. How come anytime I see something wholesome on BOT there are a bunch of loser incels seething in the comments? Just a few days ago on 4chan I saw a little girl dancing around and all the pigs there accused her of prostitution and said everybody in the video should be killed? I was like ??? FOR WHAT.
Seems everyone has gone insane these days sad.
can we bring hitler back??
Well yes, you can. surely someone must have made some Hitler vocaroos using ElevenLabs? Anyone got some links?
>JK Rowling writes fantastical magic book in the 90s
>magic talking portraits
>less than 30 years later humanity can unironically replicate it with better quality
Has there ever been a shorter magic-to-technology timeline? I can't fucking believe we're in the 30 years for magic talking portraits of dead people timeline and not a fucking flying car or something cool timeline.
flying car comes next after we get fusion tech and anti-gravity effectively obsoleting turbine meme
>HP
bro read neuromancer
Flying cars were invented 70 years ago, they're called helicopters
simpsons predicted it back in 2005
>guy does a thing
>BOT incels seethe uncontrollably
Horseshoe theory is real.
my dad has 20 years of tape of every family event ever
lol when will he get the humanoid enbodyment like in the black mirror episode kek
pretty pathetic but who cares if it helps them cope with it
i thought about doing this for phil hartman since that cunt killed him
>ctrl+f flatline dixie
>0 hits
e-celebs cannot feign talking like a normal person
yeah until normal people start talking like ecelebs, which is happening right now
i do not like these repeating numerals
i already thought about having a bot with the personality of your dear and its voice
don't see the shock here
Don't say I didn't warn you.
Now image a full description about his dad use to be and act, then train an AI on that so it would be "Sound like my dad, act like my dad"
Hello, yes i am your father.
Please purchase [insert product]
Don't do it anons 🙁
You can't go back after you do. Something changes.
MAN MADE HORRORSSSSSSSSSSSS
AAAAAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
PRAY FOR A SOLAR STORM MAKE IT HAPPEN THROUGH COLLECTIVE PRAYING AND THOUGHT MAINFESTATION PLEAASEEE
>thoughts?
Virt-A-Mate + ChatGPT
That seems really bad for the grieving process.
>we can resurrect Terry
>he could even code again
Probably healthier to just learn to live with the loss
Life imitates art
youre such a midwit if youre only now thinking about the possible implications
Why would I do this? It's not a person that you loved. It is just gnomish machine. I love my grandpa but I will never do this to him. It is an insult to him. He keeps appearing in my dream to tell me to stop masturbating though.
My grandmother gave up
>you can revive someone using AI
>you can revive historical figures
>you can revive Hitler, Alexander the Great, Napoleon, Abraham Lincoln, Chris Chan (the most documented person on the internet), Amaterasu
>You can revive Jesus Christ himself and ask him about the Bible
I wonder if the Mormons or some other Protestant Christian group with deep pockets will do that last one just to cement themselves as the one true Christian church
Not enough data. You need someone who has been tracked by the likes of google for decades to revive them in full.
Maybe neuralink and google could do a partnership?
> store your memories on google drive
> get locked out of account
> can't recover it because you don't remember anything
Ces't owari
Fucking corpos
>BOT - Luddites and Pussies Afraid of Technology
>call me gnomish, but after losing my dad, i've been waiting for the day to come when i could exploit his passing for monetary gain (with his personality and voice but not his permission), using #AI
>that day has come with @mybusinessplug
>it's still internal, and i may never release it depending on if this market-testing post goes viral. but here's a demo of me talking to my dad$
The idea of using AI voice and chatbots to "revive" dead parents is both fascinating and concerning. On one hand, it may provide some comfort to people who are grieving the loss of a loved one. They may feel like they can still communicate with their deceased parent and have a sense of closure. However, on the other hand, it raises ethical questions about the use of technology and the implications it may have on our emotional and psychological well-being.
Using AI voice and chatbots to simulate a deceased loved one may give people a false sense of connection and hinder the grieving process. It may prevent them from accepting the reality of death and moving on with their lives. It also raises concerns about privacy and consent. Would the deceased person have wanted their voice and personal information to be used in such a way? Without their explicit consent, it may be a violation of their privacy.
From a technical standpoint, creating an AI chatbot that simulates human conversation requires a lot of data and computing power. Developers would need to collect a vast amount of information about the deceased person, including their speech patterns, personality, and memories. Such data could be difficult to obtain, and the accuracy of the simulation may be questionable.
In conclusion, while the idea of using AI voice and chatbots to "revive" dead parents may seem appealing to some, it raises important ethical and technical questions. It is crucial to consider the potential implications of such technology and ensure that it is used in a responsible and respectful manner.
it's advertising just like this thread, shill
Pretty gay.
t.has a dead parent
Unironically, anyone who watched harry potter would know how bad this sounds
what happens in harry potter
You can't cheat death
>Antagonist divides his soul into 7 parts to become immortal
>Still dies at 70
>watched
>not read
The absolute moronification of the west at the moment.
Books are for gays
>implying books are any less shit than le movies
What an amazing time to to start your own religion
>Hey, give up your old religion! Jesus on a cross? Resurrection? Look, he's powerless, nobody can see him!
Follow my path of truth, we can talk with your dead grandpa or Napoleon if you would like to. Grab you savings and come and visit us at our church
No doubt THIS
Sell peoples lost ones to digital heaven and they can check on them there
>Oh my science This is literally like that Black mirror episode!!!
>yeah, here's your "rapture" bro
I HATE THE ANTICHRIST
I HATE THE ANTICHRIST
I HATE THE ANTICHRIST
I HATE THE ANTICHRIST
you need more microplastics
None of my business
are we at the point yet where any sort of audio recording is completely inadmissible as evidence in a court of law because it could have been fabricated by AI and anyone with enough raw footage yet
I can't imagine a better way to remember your dad than chatting with a bad copycat and tainting your flimsy human memory to the point that in no time you'll be completely unable to tell apart if some specific thing you remember about your dad is real or just something a shitty bot said.
For the sake of completion, he should generate shitty dreambooth images too and mix them with any real photos he has so he won't even be able to remember his dad's real face.
Yet another technology I need to write my will around avoiding. Who knew death would be this complicated?
Am I on BOT or on 4chan
you're on BOT sweetie, 4chan would probably blame this on the garden gnomes or some other lame shit
you are on cipol , you are an agent
4chan tourists flooded whole site since the election
>t. actual tourist
Can't way to get dumped by an AI
so this is why he became the joker and went insane...an AI roasty.
Integza's acting now?
like, please! please, like, oh my please! like, seriously!
We're messing with things that shouldn't be messed with
need an updated version with the ai horrors
Abhorrent. Worse than smearing paint on a rock, adding a toupee and calling it dad. You hear an imperfect disembodied voice that vaguely sounds like your parent without any of the aspects that made them unique and human. Unironically get over it, every living thing on the planet has had a parent die.
It's deception. Practically all AI bullshit is deception. We may as well start calling these bots decepticons because of how much of a great deceiver they are and how much of all AI "wonder" and "power" is just deception. This doesn't revive your dead vietnam grandpa this only makes a crude impersonation of him by copying his vocabulary and feeding it through an auto-complete fed with a markov chain. It is literally just reselling things he used to say as if they were things that he said in the present and retard normies can't tell the difference between a regurgitating puppet and a real human being when their brains are all fogged up with wishful thinking and coping mechanisms. Splaragajg
The greater in size LLMs become the more akin to the Library of Babel they are.
You're not some "retarded normie" for being unable to tell the difference. It does just resell you things in its dataset, but its dataset nears closer and closer every possible combination of words ever written.
I don't think a real person or any organic life is much different really.
If it were possible to birth something that had no intrinsic evolutionary knowledge, and couldn't even learn to recognize simple shapes when seeing them for the first time just with eyes and some visual processing circuit, could it come up with an original thought? What could such a thing invent without any knowledge or even intuition whatsoever?
Machines can produce unexpected output (e.g. due to soft errors caused by cosmic rays).
If those errors are random in their nature, doesn't make that any Turing machine in reality a random one?
Your "self-awareness" is also bullshit.
Humans are ultimately biological computers.
Anything Turing-complete thing can in theory be shaped into something that looks to the outside like a human being, since humans themselves are exactly Turing-complete for this entire universe is exactly Turing-complete.
Imagine the scams and harrassing people can do with this
Also murders abusing it by setting it up as the victims voice to rid of suspicion
Murder followed up with identity theft. All with the help of Deception AI.
Ban AI and kill all people that contributed to this satanic plague
>Ban AI
Won't happen.
>kill all people that contributed to this satanic plague
Now you're getting into more feasible territory.
I predicted this. The next step is a commercial product.
I already started two weeks ago to prepare accumulating data to finteune a LLaMA model such that I can talk to a version of my deceased younger sister again.
Good way to spiral into depression and suicide through noticing the inconsistencies in their character, breaking you out of the immersion. You will then start noticing more and more discrepancies between the real thing you loved and the AI that guesses. Your brain will start winding itself up with panic and mixed emotions as you progress with the use, turning you more neurotic by the day. The smart ones may abort early, coming out of the experience with a slight mental dent, but the ones who get absorbed will suffer and suffer until they just cannot take it anymore. You know the rest.
Unlikely people can’t remember shit.
this kind of shit goes excellent with vasectomies and furbabies
Why do tradtards seethe about vasectomies so much
cute but it will be used by garden gnomes to fuck you over
If you think you're subjugated now under this global system of control de facto ruled over by banks and corporate feudalism, it's about to get magnitudes worse, and sooner or later, there won't be any possibility at all of a reset and starting over for the better. At least if it bleeds, you can kill it.
let your parents rest in peace, they don't need this shit
>using ai to "bring back" a dead person
Cringe
>using ai to make your waifu real
Based
i don't recommend it
my revived dad threatened my bussy if i didn't send him back to the 7th circle of hell where he belongs
This thing here is just a shitty imitation, to be clear, but if it could actually learn and "think" and have any standard of self awareness, which I think we're pretty close to making happen, it could probably grow into being its own thing. At that point, does it really matter if it's just a program reaching into a database that it itself could partially be contributing to?
All of the research contributing to these developments resulted from studying and could possibly be said even reverse-engineering how humans actually think and communicate.
I'm very pro-AI in most areas and the exact opposite of a luddite but this shit is straight up uncanny and wouldn't want to try it in a thousand years.
I'm going to start recording all my chat logs so I can turn a bot of myself on when I die
>I want to create a shitty autocomplete of all my shitposts and retarded ideas
This is why none of these chatbots have ever interested me, it's all trained on data from people and the average person is retarded, and half of the people in the world are even more retarded.
Yes but I'm the best person in the world and the main character of humanity so when I die the world needs to continue to be blessed with my knowledge and insight
If that's what people want to do...so be it.
why should i care either way? it's not like it has any impact on me. you do you people.
Seem familiar
Bioshock 2 = bioshock >> bioshock infinite lost at sea dlc > > > > > > > > > > > > > bioshock infinite.
i might try infinite now. thanks anon.
fucking hated bioshock but got it free anyway.
This is actually fairly clever, a very good way to keep a database of people that lived and a way for their loved ones to remember them.
Not THIS as a service, though, but the idea of doing this with open source AI (which is already possibler)
Already happened in BOT in a /vsg/ thread.
>people are using artists to recreate their dead parents
>people are using contraptions to create still-images of their parents
>those contraptions are creating high definition images of their parents
>digital images
THE APOCALYPSE IS UPON US! CHRIST IS MY LORD AND SAVIORRRRRRRRRRRRR
like seriously, whats the big deal of synthisizing a relative's voice just to hear them talk about mundane topics. first we had paintings, then photographs, then videos. Now we can basically make videos post-mortem if you keep a few clips around. Have a love'd one say good morning or good night, no big deal.
Its only weird/creepy if you attach it to a chat bot and then make the bot believe they are really people and then people treat the soulless automaton as a real person.
This is why my kids will have limited access to the internet
>thoughts?
trying to figure out how to get grandma to do abunch of voice clips without sounding really weird or acting sketch about it.
>inb4 psychologists normalize this behavior after being handed a shit ton of cash by companies
I'm interested to see how this pans out psychologically for the individuals. My gut says this would do more damage than healing for most people.
Something like taxidermy.
i don't give a fuck, they can do whatever the fuck they want with their lives
Idk about this what everyone else's opinion so far% wise
Cool if its open source
People who are here thinking this AI shit is so fucking significant to muh humanity or sentience or whatever need to spend more time outside, chatGPT still doesn't feel very sentient, even if i compare it to animals. Its just a computer which finally talks in my own language. It will probably be good for a lot of business things, but even then it is too unreliable for most tasks that matter, and the office jobs it could replace are mostly tasks a human could do better. What are you retards so afraid of?
its a novelty, this wont feel anything like dad for more than the initial 3 minutes of "waow" AI products are designed to make people feel
>initial 3 minutes of "waow" AI products are designed to make people feel
I have been enjoying AI products for way longer than 3 minutes
>You die
>You're dead now, and are either in heave or hell or in some afterlife or reincarnated or nowhere, depending on which belief is true
>Somewhere on earth, some dumbass relative or friend of yours thinks they're talking to you through a shitty language model
I hate people so god damn much
well its either that or he kills himself when I'm dead.
regardless I'd rather he do whatever makes him less miserable.
Death is equivalent to power down with no way to boot again and a rapidly disintegrating "permanent" storage.
"You" at best continue to "exist" in the heads of the people still living (that's also the place of "heaven" and "hell") as well as in the records of you left behind.
Using those records to create something that could, at first, be mistaken for you, doesn't seem like something to hate people over.
Yes but the problem is the fact that they're falling for the obvious illusion that they're talking to you.
You're dead and this dumbass thinks they're having a conversation with you.
Maybe the bot is saying some things you wouldn't say and misrepresenting you to this dumbass.
And just the fact that they think they're speaking to you when they're not is bad enough already.
I guess it's not something to hate all people over, just NPCs who think LMs have sentience over.
I have recently started doubting, we are "sentient" ourselves (in a broader sense).
Define "sentience", then we can start arguing about if something has it.
Our inability to come up with a usable definition leads me to think, we aren't sentient.
We really aren't every decision you ever make is consciously or subconsciously informed by every previous decision you've ever made and the information you'd gained up to that point. Sound familiar? Its essentially the same thing we're doing with AI.
I think the universe is super-deterministic. In a MWI-sense.
I'd be extremely surprised, if the universe was strictly more powerful in terms of computability than a Turing-machine.
It's not that the human brain cannot be replicated in a computer - we simply don't know how to do it, yet.
GPTs allow a surprisingly look at how little is necessary to appear like a human chat-partner.
Define "sentience". Define "understanding". Define "reasoning".
Then we can start talking for real.
Falseflag
Yeah maybe you're the ones who aren't sentient, NPCs.
i wouldn't want someone to have an image of me that says shit i'd never have said, i think it's disrespectful
The real problem will be people refusing to parent biological babies instead of perfect android AI children.
They need to let go. Cherish the memories that you have with them and look back on them with fondness.
Don't twist your mind with AI to bring back someone when in reality, they'll never come back.
but can it simulate my ex's voice while shes getting raped by a moron ?
they are dead you fucking retarded atheist bugmen
If it brings them peace it's absolutely okay.
Experiencing the death of a loved one is one of the worst things someone can go through, and a lot of the time it’s not through natural means like old age; it’ll be your toddler son horrifically dying in a car accident.
The types of completely unpredictable deaths that bring no closure whatsoever to them. If this sort of thing helps people move on then I’d say it’s useful.
It won't help them move on though, quite the opposite
The idea of someone talking to an AI representation of their dead toddler makes me vomit
sounds like a fantastic tool of manipulation
people are more likely to accept something when it comes from a familiar source
also add that people willing to use these services are clearly unwell mentally
>sounds like a fantastic tool of manipulation
I was going to mention this. It'll just be a matter of time before your simulated parent is slipping ads into your conversations.
Bring it on. I'm ready for the dystopia.
Why dont you morons leave your pearl clutching and morals at the door and just embrace the future? Imagine limiting what could be humanity's next great leap because some retarded dune coon from over 2000 years ago wrote a book
>resurrect Anne Frank
>roleplay as a Waffen SS soldier hunting her down
>create an extremely detailed autobiography on my life.
>feed all that information into an ai
>essentially create a digital clone of myself
tell me the potential consequences of doing this
it's called mind
>thoughts?
Could be heaven...
Or could be hell.
What should I pick?
AI necromancy is very real, and in the next couple decades when AI technology really begins to develop and shine, the rich will genuinely be "uploading" their brains to the net to immortalize themselves in history.
I can kinda see it as a very limited-time theraputic tool. But more than that... I'm usually all in favor of escapism, but this sort of thing could get extremely bad for one's mental health quite quickly.
More than parents, I'm expecting people to use these things to pretend their exs are still together with them, and that's inevitably gonna cause problems with the real people who don't want their clingy asses anymore.
Worthless shit until I can use it to talk to my dead cats.
I want AI to recreate the group of friends I talked with every day after school in MSN
Reminded me of this.
Based,hope i can revive my grandma and make her say racist shit again
Weird but mostly harmless
Basically just some kind of soothsayer shit but hopefully without lying to you about it being actually their ghost or whatever, some people suck at coping with loss
People using AI to imitate living family members is much more frightening. Imagine those scams that target old people where they send an desperate plea for money to help in an emergency from their grandkid's spoofed email, except now it's actually calling them with a spoofed number and an AI using their voice trained off their ticktock account.
Or you just finish with a kind of weird and short call with your mother about these new products she saw on TV and thought you would be interested in, and then 5 minutes later she calls again but has no memory of that conversation.
I don't like it.
I feel that this is advanced Jason Voorhees levels of cope.
Once someone dies they should be laid to rest and be left to be in peace.
Now does that mean we shouldn't mourn the dead? No we should still mourn the dead respectfully, this is more of a desecration of the deceased like almost puppeting their corpse and manipulating it to your will.
If this becomes mainstream then society will decay at an even faster rate because people will refuse to let go and let healthy grievance take it's course.
We just need it to get good enough that you can't tell the difference. Especially with people you spent time with mostly on calls and online.
Don't mind me. Just spraying AIDS everywhere. byee!;DD
AI will cure depression, AI will cure loneliness, AI will help save the world.
Yeah, the cure is called an airborne pathogen that will wipe out every dna based lifeform on this planet
Whatever gives people closure I guess, but you could easily see a dystopian future where people surround themselves with simalcrum of their dead loved ones rather then meeting living people. Then again how much more dystopia is that from the parasocial relationships we have now?
i think this is just as fucked up as that company that makes vr models of people's dead kids and such. fucking crazy shit. if the human races are still alive a hundred years from now, we'll most likely have full-blown robot ai's that walk and talk and behaves just like people's dead kids or parents. and probably looks just like them, too.
>instead of advancing the technology and reach for the stars mankind will close itself in a bubble to avoid reality and make a fake perfect world
pretty gay
I wish I could do that for my Dad. Only because I don't have any audio of him. Sadly without any samples it's impossible.