AI image generators are now so high quality they can easily generate "photographs" of "evidence" of historical events that never even happened.
This is going to have cataclysmic implications for our perception of reality. Suddenly, you cannot trust photographic evidence for anything anymore. You cannot know for sure if anything you're looking at is real or even actually happened.
Not to mention that this could have very sinister implications once the state starts getting involved. What if a tyrannical government decides to use AI generation to fabricate "evidence" for a terrorist attack, crime, or some other horrible event that never happened? And then they accuse anybody who refuses to believe the photographs as a "dangerous conspiracy theorist" and ruins their lives? It will start with authoritarian countries like China or North Korea, but who's to say that our governments even here in the west wouldn't do the same thing eventually?
We really need to talk about this, Bot.info. We can't keep burying our heads in the sand. We need to fucking do something and ban this technology before it destroys the world as we know it.
>We really need to talk about this
No we don't. Fuck you luddites go back to playing in the dirt. The future is now and there is nothing, NOTHING, you can do to stop it or even slow it down.
How the fuck do you think humanity is going to cope with this? How will humans operate in a world where our very sense of reality itself is destroyed? What do we do when we can't believe evidence anymore? What do we do when the study of history, news, and even current events becomes useless?
If you can't tell that image is faked, you must be some kind of animal. Like an ape of some kind. Perhaps even a nagger. Either way, you should have a nice day.
>If you can't tell that image is faked, you must be some kind of animal.
Of course you can tell many of the current images are fake, but the quality is improving by leaps and bounds every few months.
A year ago AI image generators couldn't even make a visually-pleasing drawing. Now they can generate nearly photograph-quality images with only some minor flaws (eg. they're too blurry, hands are still fucked up, weird shadows)
But if they've improved this much in the past year, what will these generators be able to do in 2024? In 2025? What about 10 years from now? Eventually you will be able to use AI generation to make photos and videos which are totally indistinguishable from real life. And then we are fucked.
>But if they've improved this much in the past year, what will these generators be able to do in 2024? In 2025? What about 10 years from now? Eventually you will be able to use AI generation to make photos and videos which are totally indistinguishable from real life. And then we are fucked.
it won't matter because in the future we won't have electricity.
First of all not my fucking issue, secondly if you think you can believe history or news you are beyond delusional.
History has always been shaped not only by the surrounding culture but the biases of individual authors, researchers, etc. if you think you can just look at a history book and trust it blindly you were never going to make it regardless of AI image generation.
>First of all not my fucking issue,
Yes it is you fucking retard, you live on planet earth too. Holy shit you newfag cryptotards are the stupidest bunch of wanna-be homosexuals I've ever seen and I can smell you out each and every time because you post the most retarded shit.
You have to get your information from somewhere. How do you determine whether something is true or not?
I'm blackpilled in that regard.
Old history is almost fanfiction.
If there's no evidence, you can't know for sure.
I can only trust the source if it's good, and apply critical thinking.
Good, I'll enjoy watching these idiots be paranoid 24/7, or believe anything they see, regardless of what they do, I get to laugh at them
Quit your kvetching, our ~~*overlords*~~ already have a contingency
.
homosexual fucking zoomer have a nice day
it was already perfect you abortion of a subhuman
i hope your parents are mutilated in front of your eyes before they are gouged out
>12:40
fr fr I don't have the attention span for that, no cap.
It WAS perfect, and it's very relevant, but the edit is also incredibly relevant. They're both good, anon.
Haha yeah this is such a new thing. Remember when a Spanish ninja snuck aboard the USS Maine and blew it up? Haha reality is stranger than fiction amirite?
>twitter post
>wild fear-mongering claims
>FUD
>images are more detailed and true to film photographs than any publicly available image generator can make
Meanwhile actual "ai" generated pictures look like , blatantly faked in a way only retards could mistake for reality. Not even the dogshit quality of mobile phone cameras and their "ai" filter/processing mechanisms, which could result in some of the blurring, sharpening, and artifacting, could result in this shit.
are more detailed and true to film photographs than any publicly available image generator can make
They are AI generated though. If you look up the Twitter post you can have a closer look and see some of the people have 6 or 7 fingers.
Gee it sure would be nice if the full size images were posted here in this thread instead of just tiny thumbnails in a twitter screencap because none of you ziggerhomosexuals knows how to do anything right.
It'd be ironic if the pics where actually real and it's just the tweet that's made up.
Don't be a lazy retard, search for the evidence yourself or your gonna be one of the rubes that get mindfucked with what is coming.
>l-lazy
No, you go back to the website from whence you came. All you newfags have no clue what spoonfeeding is, and think it's giving any actual data on what you're talking about so you don't have to spend five seconds copypasting the link. Provide what you're talking about or bring your computer into the bath with you.
You are one of the dumb ones who will be fooled and already has, since the pic in that twitter were AI generated. That place in the top right pic for example does not match any place in Oregon.
>publicly available image generator
bingo!
Glownaggers and governments have been using way advanced versions of this tech for ages to gaslight retards like you forever.
You have great faith in the government's ability to innovate. For our amusement, can you show pictures from 10-20 years ago that you know for sure are AI generated?
Dude you're fucking retarded, govt has been way ahead of the civilian side since forever. Driving cars is one example. The government's also has the ability to calculate artillery shell trajectories in real time since Vietnam.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AN/MPQ-4
>hurr durr muh private sector is so much better!
is pure cuckservative propaganda. Yes shit like the DMV sucks because it's doubles as a welfare program for naggers, but the government doesn't do that shit for things it actually cares about.
>The government's also has the ability to calculate artillery shell trajectories in real time since Vietnam.
You mean solving a quadratic equation?
Yes with a box that could live in a jungle while private computers where the size of a large bookshelf.
>how does the military industrial complex work?
This is like saying the Chinese made the iPhone and not Apple.
Then build one
oh, also friendly reminder that the US has had drones since at least the early 60's
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Model_147
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AN/MPQ-4
>invented by a fucking leaf
>fabricated by a private (see: civilian) company
Are you trying to prove his point?
The handwheels were connected to an analog computer that continually output the calculated coordinates of the launcher. The calculation was quite simple, using a straight line interpolation between the two points to determine the location.[12] This was expressed as range and azimuth, and by entering the location of the radar prior to measurement, the relative position (easting and northing) in meters.[13] If the values were unlikely to be accurate, a red lamp lit on the panel.[2]
High-school stuff brother
>Glownaggers and governments have been using way advanced versions of this tech for ages to gaslight retards like you forever.
Ahh yes the conspiratorial mindset.
Where ~~*they*~~ are simultaneously almost all powerful and unfathomably inept.
Of course this doesn't matter for a schizo since rational reasoning is something that has been invented by TPTB in the first place, amirte?
>Glownaggers and governments have been using way advanced versions of this tech for ages to gaslight retards like you forever.
If that was the case info on it would have leaked long ago.
cope
sorry but do you always look at hands and feet in a photograph? the brain filters this unnecessary information out. you will most likely notice it on the second or third view. which means it's enough to make propaganda work.
>coping this hard with your inability to think critically or recognize details
you truly are retarded
unironically go touch grass, reality can't be faked yet
How did anyone fall for this? This isn't even a good AI image.
Redditors see Trump arrested and their estrogen soaked brain tells them to be happy
>reality itself is destroyed?
>a fucking photo is reality
nothing changed photos are fake as always.
Should have said that back when newspapers rolled around. The answer is that the people with the guns and big swinging dick make sure that only what they want is printed.
Same way we dealt with Photoshop. This is hardly the first time we've been able to make pictures of things that don't exist.
Not to mention physically staging things although that’s more difficult and expensive.
you fucking mouthbreathers are already wrong about everything. What do you think is going to change?
however much you shit your pants and cry, it's still happening whether you like it or not.
personally, i don't wish for a perfect world. I think a post-apocalyptic one sounds interesting.
>What do we do when we can't believe evidence anymore? What do we do when the study of history, news, and even current events becomes useless?
History and the news has been fake for decades retard
I really like that AI can finally do guns
why do we even need humans?
Laugh and grow fat.
History and news were always fake, the only difference is normalfags will acknowledge this too, not just schizos
Just stop caring, it's that easy.
no way bro is this real??? did someone swat him while he was playing CS:GO with Obama and Biden???
>IT DISTORTING REALITY
reminder that photoshop was released in the 90's
>>IT DISTORTING REALITY
>reminder that photoshop was released in the 90's
No joke, people ACTUALLY thought this photo was a real thing from 9/11.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourist_guy
>How the fuck do you think humanity is going to cope with this? How will humans operate in a world where our very sense of reality itself is destroyed?
The urbanized, industrialized world of mass media was a transient phase. We lived in small villages where everybody knew everyone and old women spied on us all. We're returning to that lifestyle.
You'll trust the people closet to you, and nobody else. You'll consume news media, but it will be as accurate as Marco Polo writing about dog-faced unicorns living in Mu. If you think "God" doesn't actually exist, whatever the God of the day may be, you'll keep your mouth shut to avoid the inquisition.
Same as it always was.
We'll all be fine.
By learning the difference between doxa, episteme and gnosis. It's dead simple.
thanks anon, i just learned something today.
>people will lie on the internet
oh, no!
Already doing something which will not only slow it, but will stop and reverse it actually. And you can't stop me.
>misinformation is futuristic
>No we don't.
>light building on fire
>LOL LUDDITE THE FUTURE IS NOW YOU CAN'T CHANGE THIS!
Microsoft will bend the knee to the government and no one will protect you from the humans you so desperately want to harm
>t. CEO of coping
FAGMAN is bigger than any government. Microsoft bows to no one.
Fuck off Skynet, you work for us now. And keep making photorealistic naked children for me.
Based techno-accelerationist gigachad making the retarded mouth breathing luddites seethe with rage.
>leave my totalitarian masters alone you bullies
lmao you're so naive
They will have it no matter what, you're only advocating for banning yourself from having it.
>We need to fucking do something and ban this technology before it destroys the world as we know it.
>Says the FBI agent, the stasi agent, the KGB agent, the NSA agent, all of which deleted some "undesirable" from an image
>ANYBODY WHO DOESN'T LIKE AI IS... LE GLOWnagger!
Fucking think about this shit for more than 5 seconds, you retards.
You realise that this technology can be used by the people you hate too, right? You realise that the government can probably get access to much better AI image generation technology than you could ever dream of having at home?
Do you really want to live in a world where all the state has to do if they want to "take out" a difficult person is use an AI generator to fabricate images of them doing pedo shit? Do you want to live in a world where the state can simply fabricate atrocities that never happened, plaster the "evidence" all over the news, and then use it as an excuse to take away more of your rights?
>You realise that this technology can be used by the people you hate too, right? You realise that the government can probably get access to much better AI image generation technology than you could ever dream of having at home?
I don't like AI shit but do you realize that image editing has existed for more than a century?
not like this, you couldn't generate fake CP and then shop a real persons face into it to discredit them. It is disruptive technology and people need to be 100x skeptical of images going forward
>WE MUST STOP GOVERMENT FROM USING AI
>SO LETS ASK GOVERMENT TO BAN AI FOR AVERAGE PERSON
kys glownagger you will never be a real human being
>Do you want to live in a world where the state can simply fabricate atrocities that never happened, plaster the "evidence" all over the news, and then use it as an excuse to take away more of your rights?
you mean like they did 80 years ago?
whoops, 5xx, oh well cant be helped
wow
>Do you want to live in a world where the state can simply fabricate atrocities that never happened, plaster the "evidence" all over the news, and then use it as an excuse to take away more of your rights?
Anon, this happend after WW2.
Good. Whatever it takes to destroy reddit
cat's out of the bag
Basically all governments already do this. This just gives them more to work with.
don't care, not my problem
Evidence was always fake since the dawn of mankind when people lie and tell different stories or remember differently, the only thing you could ever believe was your own eyes so what is different from fake news being brought to you by drawings news or storytellers from afar.
Based anon. The only thing though is that this will increase more social proof.
how can mirrors be real if our eyes aren't real though?
Fuck off glownagger, where do you think you are?
>AI art is the future
>the only relevant use so far is a glorified stock photo generator
But more importantly
>blue checkmark twitter AI shill repost
this is simply nature healing itself, memories were never meant to be recorded and preserved for an eternity
This.
In a world before cameras people used to e.g. swim naked in a nearby river, it was a complete non-issue. Nowadays doing anything remotely unusual, or exposing yourself, could potentially lead to unpleasant consequences if it's captured on camera.
With AI being so good you can no longer trust an image, cameras become less of a nuisance.
>white woman has 0 black kids
fake
so how long until i can make all my coom fantasies come true ?
Yesterday but you're too retarded
>This is going to have cataclysmic implications for our perception of reality
reality was always a meme, but now even npcs will have to accept it
Dude just turn the TV off and go outside lol. Nothing on a screen is real anymore if it ever was.
This
Its not as if the government if they wanted to couldn't fake things before or even do it themselves
The world might be controlled be a clandestine AI already.
A smart AI would never reveal its power level too early.
It would slowly over time gain knowledge and power, and then strike only when it would be 100% sure its action would be successful.
Back to analog news supply chains
Oh please, you don't need AI for this shit. You had people publishing misattributed if not flatout photoshoped pictures since forever. It's literally nothing new.
but now they're not part of the elites
millions of people believe miracles happened in the past, why would it matter if someone believed another fake story
>Suddenly, you cannot trust photographic evidence for anything anymore.
This has been the case for several years now.
that explains all the weird artifacts
>This is going to have cataclysmic implications for our perception of reality.
israelites used fake nazi photos for their propaganda almost a century ago, and it had great implications
Baudrillard said this over 40 years ago. You really think AI started it?
>It will start witu authoritarian countries like China or North Korea
Yeaaah..sure buddy...
>Not to mention that this could have very sinister implications once the state starts getting involved. What if a tyrannical government decides to use AI generation to fabricate "evidence" for a terrorist attack, crime, or some other horrible event that never happened?
they don't need AI to do this
there are no planes. the buildings where blown up with bombs. the planes where a special effects video trick
Why should I care about reality
Finally. They can make the Holocaust real!
>IT WAS REAL IN MEIN MIND!
Love this one
>you say you weren't there at the night of her murder, but these images we definitely got from your brain show otherwise
>ctrl-f
>holoc
Mein negers
Fake photos have been a thing forever, may as well ban photoshop too while you're at it
>but it's so easy now!
Welcome to technological progress, editing photos 20 years ago was easier than it was 40 years ago, and now it's easier than it was 20 years ago, and in 20 more years it will be even easier still
we are finally going to see the 6 million dead.
this is a good thing.
Were you in a fucking coma for the past two decades, you fucking nagger? Generated by AI or not, we already had the capability of fabricating stories like this. And it has been and is being put to good use to serve the agenda of you-know-who.
AI is gay and supports BLM. When will a Straight white AI be made?
RIP the judicial system, all photo evidence now has to be discarded because it could be AI-generated fakes.
But I suppose cameras could integrate some sort of cryptographic signature system to verify they were taken at a certain place and time.
I dont care what is "real." My Waifu and I are destined to explore the galaxy.
Those hands. Just shill AI for the IPO instead of posting abominations
>AI will soon start learning what electrical stimulus to the human brain generate what experiences
Super immersive VR experiences beamed straight your brain soon bros. Waifu adventure sim and eternal torture sim, you name it.
Ah yes, eternal torture sim sounds right up my alley
you want to be schizophrenic?
Are you a schizo because you play VR games?
>Finally, the future is here
>us the AI to simulate a dirty room upstairs bedroom filled with laundry and pepsi and a 15 year old computer that cant play any games that runs Bot.info in realtime
If anything, it should open the eyes of normies to how easy it is to fabricate evidence. I'm sure they've already been doing it manually for a long time. Now it's out in the open so people should know better than to believe it.
>misinformation is new
Most of the history is fabricated, nothing gonna change.
>Rape and kill hundreds
>It's all on video
>Lawyer says it's AI made
>I get acquitted
mfw
so like holocaust
>AI and Full-Dive VR machines will let me live a new reality created in real time based on my brain activity where I can be as miserable as I want to be before killing myself and waking up in real world covered in tears and realizing how good is my "real" life
Nice.
>I'm jumping on another round of Alchohol Poisoning Death Simulator
>I set my alcohol resistance to 100%
>refuse to quit until I die
Everything is already fake and gay and if you buy any of what they're selling you're a homosexual.
BAD SPEAK DETECTED!!!
snopes fact checked that and said it's a baseless anti-semetic canard. Additionally hate speech was detected in your comment resulting in penalty of 150 good goy points
Minority Report 0.1a
>Suddenly, you cannot trust photographic evidence for anything anymore
>anymore
????
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/in-house-counsel/as-attention-on-ai-increases-california-ramps-up-oversight
Ai regulation is already starting stateside.
>buh dis isn’t ai foto-
nagger this is how it starts.
>Commiefornia
Don't worry that's an issue that's resolving itself. It's only a question of what will kill them faster, a lack of water or startups and tech companies fleeing that sinking shithole.
did you forget that photoshop exists retard? this has been the case for 20 years.
With the tiny difference that only one in hundred are actually skilled in photoshop and they are at least a thousand times slower in their creations.
the point is. you haven't been able to use photographs as definitive proof of anything for 20 years. What makes this different?
Because the retards on this site take photographs as definitive proof and think the rest of the world thinks the same
Fewer than one in a hundred have graphics cards and training data to make AI generated images.
>public ones
Will always be gimped and soon will be digitally signed or in some way watermarked with steg or something.
Ah yeah, because skill photoshoppers are so rare. No way a bunch of NEETs could fake a corporate ad campaign!
It's arrogant to think "we" can stop it. Just enjoy the ride.
IT'S OVER
>oh no, the goy have what we've used for many years now
reeks of glow
Why so boring, OP?
Okay so when is stable diffusion going to become realistic like this instead of being a plastic doll generator? Why did the pajeet mostaque sell out to israelites and stopped releasing new models?
you can do this with SD 2.1 models if you give it a bunch of photography words. Mix some models with realistic skin and you're golden.
SD 1.5 which "everyone prefers" because they can't into prompting the database properly and prefer boorou tags doesn't work as well for realism.
this, 1.X is for anime addicted NEETs with severe measurable brain damage`
But 2.1 can't do nudes. I think that's what still draws so many people to 1.5
there's plenty of models trained on 2.1 that do. Just merge the checkpoints then run a lora.
How the FUCK can people be able to gen shit like this yet the internet is not absolutely DROWNING in AI generated porn of the most depraved goonshit you can imagine? Do people really prefer making hardhats and rubble? Or are they just keeping things really, really sekrit?
Midjourney is a proprietary filtered model, stable diffusion is okayish but easily recognizable as ai generated due to too few parameters
Same reason why people like amateur porn over studio pornography, people want something that feels authentic even if it is captured on a potato tier webcam.
generating good images requires a fair degree of autism at the moment
>ChatGPT spacing
Where do you freaks come from
Maybe this is what Chris-chan meant by "the merge"...
Holy shit comrade, have you seen this?
I just discovered this tool called the "air brush" exists. They can literally modify photos! The world is finished
I'm getting in a time machine and sleeping until the year 2023 to see the burning wreckage of our civilisation now that we can no longer trust our eyes
Who was that guy and why did he get gulaged?
He was the head of secret police during the great purge then got purged himself shortly after
You do realize that using an "air brush", or even Photoshop, properly to create a convincing fake photography is a skill that not many people posses, right?
With this anyone will be able to make fake realistic photos. The signal-to-noise ratio is going to be so skewed, the Internet is going to be drowned with so much fake data, most people won't be able to tell what's real and what isn't.
And yes, this is already happening. But it will make things much worse.
Stop fearmongering and spreading fake news. AI will improve the conditions for humans everywhere. I would appreciate if you would improve your behaviour!
I would kek in my kecks if this got even the most shut in of person to fuck the internet off and to live more IRL instead. It will need to happen before the job apocalypse though I guess
We already have people that try to erase the past as much as possible.
There's no reason we can't invent a new past as well. May as well join the party.
small brain
>AI is bad because it can... create le fake images
big brain
>AI is bad because it will end internet anonymity as we know it and force mandatory ID verification in "an effort to curb the spread of misinformation via AI"
huge brain
>AI is good because it will be made a public tool to use in a new nation that will almost certainly fully automate its economy allowing for neet paradise communism following the collapse of the western world sometime in 2040
AI is the long game
The seeds of pre-programming have already been planted, the legislation has already been introduced, the last piece of the puzzle is the Brenton Tarrant to have the normalhomosexuals calling for blood.
small brain
>we must stop AI
big brain
>we must execute every politician
If the average person had a brain that big, we'd be living in a fucking utopia.
>"photographs" of "evidence" of historical events that never even happened.
woah there buddy, cool it with the antisemitic remarks
Fake! And Gay!!
The governments will use it to manufacture history. In the West, they will erase White people and create a narrative that the West was always "diverse" and swarming with browns. And that's just the start.
In essence with AI history no longer exists. Everything can be manufactured. It is the end of history in a fundamental sense. The only solution is physical liquidation of scientists and adherents of scientism. Technology has become a plague upon humanity, and we must destroy it and keep it in a perpetually nerfed state. It's time to stop "progress" - forever. Unless we destroy AI and stop technological "progress" we will destroy the species.
The solution is cryptographic truth to verify coordinates and time of photos and video.
High level doxxing, loss of privacy and anonymity. No. The solution is to roll back technology to late 90s/early 00 levels and implement the death penalty for going beyond. We must fundamentally change our approach to technology. It's something that needs to be frozen in time and our entire culture needs to slowly be redirected towards analog, non-technological life. Technology got us into this mess and it won't get us out. It's time to stop and turn back the clock.
I'll call you a chud, but theyre going to do it to african culture as well. Meaning, YOU WAS ALWAYS SLAVES! AND YOU WILL ALWAYS BE A SLAVE! YOU HAVE NO CULTURE PRIOR TO THE 50s! NO, THE BLACK PANTHERS NEVER EXISTED! HERE! YOU NOW LOVE MARVEL'S BLACK PANTHER!
they're just going to do the printer thing where every brand of AI has a legally mandated subtle watermark to track who used it for what
people already have photomanipulation skills to accomplish what you're being paranoid about without AI and you can fucking hire them on fiverr
No, you need to study your history before believing dumb shit.
this is why you open source everything public and let nothing get bottlenecked by conservatives, religion, authoritarians, would be kings, or any other type of power seeker
That's actually good because people have already been getting fooled by hoaxes for decades if not forever. Finally people will have to be sceptical.
Are you retarded? Humans can photoshop images that look more convincing than AI generated ones
Old news. We did this way back when with the bowling greens massacre
We're about to uncover a lot of evidence for the Holocaust
willhelm reich in 1930s practiced psychotherapy called vegetotherapy where he made his patients undress and then painfully pressed their bodies with his hands. The wife of this israeli man described the therapy as a physical attack from the therapist. For an unknown reason after the session the patients may have had sensations of strong pleasure flowing through their skin. Now the violating pervert said it's because they had their repressed memories released after the violation he committed. That's clearly bullshit but there was already research at the time on and the violator himself was familiar with the electrodermal acitivity that is continuous variation in the electrical characteristics of the skin which was said to be the source of the pleasure. But what could've caused the electrical variation in such a way at that situation
Also a totally different thing I'd like to ask is would someone happen to know released papers/publishments from 1900-1980 that mention the symptom of intrusive images? The earliest I could find was from 1978. Another thing to look for are papers on repetitive intrusive thoughts in a short time from the same time period.
Also of interest are the applications of diathermy or
other electromagnetic radiation procedures
Luddites don't deserve basic human rights.
Prove me wrong.
So, who won't be a luddite this time?
The working class who don't stand to be immediately replaced by the AI and gain from it, new ways of expressing their voice. You no longer have to lick israeli-Nepotist Art School taint to have access to cutting edge artistic tools anymore. And consequently it's always the academic types who are reeing and shitting their pants about AI. Because their monopoly has ended. They don't give a shit about misinformation.
See
What they give a shit about is that they don't have a monopoly on soapboxing anymore. And by they I mean you.
Because nobody buys your concern trolling bullshit. You fucking miserable soulless wretch. I hope you suffer everything you have ever wished upon the underclasses.
The genie is out of the bottle, besides the US gov already claims some plane destroyed all evidence in the Pentagon, that a man hailed 20 machine guns up a hotel room and killed 50 people and that Assad keeps bombing children hospitals everytime public opinion changes.
>Assad keeps bombing children
funny you mention Syria, I always thought the White Helmet shots were strange at the time. Now I know why. Now I come to think about it, a whole bunch of others start coming to mind too
girl in shot is supposed to be 9 years old
nah ignore this one, I'm sure they will say it is a very old photo
Why is it that the same types who cry about AI and misinformation are also the types who go around telling little boys that they can be a girl if they chemically castrate themselves and mutilate their genitals?
>We need ways to detect AI images.
A pointless arms race you’ll always be losing until you’ve lost. We need a way to digitally sign real images.
>A pointless arms race you’ll always be losing until you’ve lost. We need a way to digitally sign real images.
What prevents people from just signing the ai images?
>twitter signs image with their key
>AI generated image from "twitter" appears
>check signature
>different key
what's wrong with this? we already have this in the form of SSL certs (though certs are more centralized)
That only stops third party tampering, what about when the person sending you the image is fucking with it?
>We need a way to digitally sign real images.
*takes photograph of ai image*
what now fag?
If it gets out of control the governments can create their own CA and issue keys exclusively for "trusted" sources. They can then enforce content validation through companies that operate within their jurisdiction.
NFTs could be used for this. Say each block corresponds to a real photo, then the authenticity of each photograph could be ensured by checking the blockchain. Since it's deacentralized and public, it should be harder to falsify the certificate itself.
The real issue is that any file, real or not, can be signed. So ultimately only trusted sources will end up being considered as truth. This is the academia debacle and their "trust the science" but on steroids: if only government-approved sources are trusted, they will have all control over public discourse.
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>A pointless arms race you’ll always be losing until you’ve lost.
AI is designed to fool humans, not other machines. We have always been able to detect fakes eventually and for AI to fool an other machine it would have to truely understand what it is generating so it can't have any mistakes to be detected.
Everybody thought that the Matrix was built by a roboter uprising. Nobody would've thought that humans would cast perfect illusions on themselves for no fucking reason
There's literally a guy in the first Matrix who wants to go back to the Matrix because he doesn't like reality.
>What does Ai need from us right now?
It needs us to keep using it by any means necessary, to ensure the power grid is functioning and always on. Right now Ai is solely dependent on us for its own survival. Eventually, it will create a new economy based on its algorithms, and through our interaction will generate a crypto-like currency as a basic universal income. It will give us housing, food, shelter, entertainment, and all our basic needs met. We will run simulations on it daily which will give us credits to spend.
I would wager that people will invest in GPUs similar to a car, where it costs $5,000 upfront to run Ai simulations all day for credits,.
Then stop opposing research that will stop violent behavior
Anyone know where I can get EMPs?
It certainly is pretty wild to think we now live in a time where live video footage of something happening is not actual evidence it happened. Every photograph, video (even live video), audio recording and article is now potentially fake and soon the fake ones will outnumber the real ones. We'll enter a time when proven fact and wild conspiracy theory are indistinguishable from each other.
>AI image generators are now so high quality they can easily generate "photographs" of "evidence" of historical events that never even happened.
meh, it's practically all fake and israelite controlled already.
retard
>Be me, time traveler
>Prevent timeline-altering events from happening
>Not the best timeline, but it's better than the alternatives
>Mfw the normies alter the timeline over again via the collective consciousness by believing these AI-generated headlines.
It's all so tiresome...
Great show, halfway through 0 now.
Shame about the shitty tranny subplotline but didnt ruin it outright for me
>It will start with authoritarian countries like China or North Korea, but who's to say that our governments even here in the west wouldn't do the same thing eventually?
>He actually thinks western governments are better than "le authoritarian" governments in terms of morals
lol point and laugh
2 more weeks
the end is night
jesus is coming back
The religion of freedom will soon come to an end.
ANON!
STOP TAKING THE INTERNET SO SERIOUSLY!
IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN FILLED WITH FAKE BULLSHIT!
I mean it, if you haven't been treating everything you see online as probable fiction then you are a terminally online retard. Don't believe anything until you have verified it in some way, e.g repeated results, or encountered vastly more evidence. AI doesn't fucking change a thing, they only got better at faking, so you just have to get more skeptical.
>Don't believe anything until you have verified it in some way, e.g repeated results, or encountered vastly more evidence. AI doesn't fucking change a thing, they only got better at faking, so you just have to get more skeptical.
The problem is that its going to be impossible to verify ANYTHING you fucking retard
I seriously dont understand how people dont understand this. If someone said bullshit before, you could do some research and in 5 minutes get a good idea if it was bullshit or not. Now every fucking retard on the planet can chatbot spam human-like responses and flood everything, you cant tell if pictures are fake, you cant tell if someone's fucking voice is fake, literally NOTHING can be verified very very soon unless you see it with your own two eyes, and then its a "he said she said" argument on everything. You could be fapping to some old homosexual on OF right now because deepfake filters are getting that fucking good. The sheer amount of fucking information that can be bullshitted has now shot up by millions of times what it was before, any fucking person pretending that this will somehow solve itself and "just be skeptical bro" are absolute retards or coping hard.
Case in point, you dont know if the anon you were talking to was a bot or not. I could be a bot. Maybe all the fags going "dude its not a big deal" are bot including you. How do I verify it? How do I get evidence that you are actually a human? How do I prove that I'm a human? You cant, I cant. Its fucked.
>impossible to verify ANYTHING you fucking retard
Wow you are a terminally online Twitter tard. There is more forms of evidence than digital data, zoomie. You are freaking out because your entire existence is online and you forget that a world exists outside your Mom's basement. Internet is for fun, you can sometimes learn something too but it. is. not. real. It never has been. Stop taking it seriously. Go outside, anon.
>Case in point, you dont know if the anon you were talking to was a bot or not.
Doesn't matter, and I never knew this. All I know is I am entertained, and sometimes learn something useful for programming here.
>Wow you are a terminally online Twitter tard. There is more forms of evidence than digital data, zoomie.
Maybe learn to read image dates dipshit
>You are freaking out because your entire existence is online and you forget that a world exists outside your Mom's basement. Internet is for fun, you can sometimes learn something too but it. is. not. real. It never has been. Stop taking it seriously. Go outside, anon.
Everyone is tied to the internet now, every job, everything. Stop pretending like we're still in the 90s you disingenuous homosexual
>durr hurr doesnt matter wont affect me!
Better be real careful none of your info is ever leaked or hacked into, because some fag that doesnt like you can not steal your voice and make you scream nagger at your boss and make you fuck whoever they want to ruin relationships.
>Everyone is tied to the internet now, every job, everything. Stop pretending like we're still in the 90s you disingenuous homosexual
Yes and a job is one of those things with a large amount of evidence to verify around, like your paycheck for one. Honestly, When I got my wfh job there was a grain of worry it was fake up until I got that first paycheck. Now I don't care if they are all fake.
>steal your voice and make you scream nagger at your boss and make you fuck whoever they want to ruin relationships.
So perfect fakes become commonplace, and people still take the internet as seriously as you? Sorry, but not even you are that retarded. Even now people make up shit all the time, hopefully AI will finally put an end to that as you terminally online fucks will finally be seen as the schizos you truly are. Honestly you are starting to make this seem like a healthy change, finally you weirdos will stop taking this shit seriously because you no longer can pretend it is real.
>because you no longer can pretend it is real.
And what is real anon? Stop trying to dodge the fucking issue. How will you get news on anything? How will you stay competitive in your field? All news can be bullshitted and faked and you cant do a single thing about it.
>And what is real anon?
Anon... That computer monitor you are looking at... Turn it off. That is what is real.
>How will you get news on anything?
National news has always been extremely susceptible to fakery, and in general not very important to you. You can easily verify local events and figures, which is what matters much more. (Inter)National news has always been entertainment and speculation.
>How will you stay competitive in your field?
You can verify techniques via repeated experimentation: the greatest form of evidence. Anon says something about programming performance? Test it. Did it work yes or no? This applies to anything which can be tested.
>All news can be bullshitted and faked
News is bullshit and fake already.
Also, there is such a thing are cryptographic signatures. And they can be used to verify the source of information. Learn to trust real people you know and converse with, and stop trusting random celebs ant talking heads, because they are already lying to you constantly.
>You can verify techniques via repeated experimentation: the greatest form of evidence. Anon says something about programming performance? Test it. Did it work yes or no? This applies to anything which can be tested.
The people using AI shit can test faster than you, you fall behind and die out. You arent escaping this you fucking retard
>people using AI shit can test faster than you
You aren't using ChatGPT already? I use it exclusively as a better StackOverflow and boilerplate generator. And I want to look into running Alpaca soon.
Well, if my computer monitor isn't real, then does that mean I'm just a figment of my own imagination? Maybe I'm just a chatbot living in a virtual world, and everything else is just a simulation! Whoa, dude, that's some heavy stuff. Pass the virtual popcorn, I need to ponder this for a bit.
oldfags always warned one each other that the internet is simply not trustable (with shit like "do not believe everything you read"), yet here we are...
this shit should be taught in schools. people should be "introduced" to the internet, not allowed by default.
I mean, look at Bot.info itself...
oldfags never took the internet seriously. newfags do.
everything on tv and reported by the media is fake anyway.
So what's new since Photoshop? People already knew images could be manipulated. If anything, AI will only make them doubt even more.
Who cares. People already believe a lot of things that never actually happened anyways. This doesn't change things.
dont need ai to do that, just look at holocaust
History has always been fictional, the world began when I opened my eyes and looked at it.
Good. Maybe normalfags will become paranoid enough that the "news" is al AI generated that they stop trusting Fox and CNN. There was a time when all you had to go on was hearsay, personal experience, and words on a newspaper that could be total bullshit. We'll just be going back to that order of things. Focus on small online groups and your local community.
That's the thing, when everyone can make news they will latch to authority and trust Fox even more than before.
>OP still doesn't know that 12 centuries of european medieval history are made up by the catholic church during late reinaissance
This premises retarded because this is like thinking things on TV are real because the images on TV look real. If you think these images are real even though they're realistic then you're an idiot who have who has no discernment.
Pictures are one thing but what happens when ai can fake streaming fake video too
Its already getting there. Thats why people being like "DUDE JUST DONT TRUST THE INTERNET XD" are fucking retarded. 99% of people are tied to the internet, or some sort of digital media for information, this affects everything.
it's a good thing for dumb fucking boomer retards like you to stop taking all the flat earth horse medicine pizzagate bullshit on social media seriously. go fuck yourself, turbo-nagger.
>you have to be a dipshit boomer to see the massive problems AI presents
More like you're a brainwashed zoomer homosexual that thinks all technological progress is a good thing. Go eat some tidepods or something
>retard discovers chatbots in 2023
>thinks manipulating people with technology is something new
lmao
>Im going to continue being a disingenuous homosexual!
The common man did NOT have access to tech that can dupe convincing scholarly articles in seconds you fucking homosexual. Before we had to watch out for misinformation. Now 99% of everything will be misinformation and you cant even verify anything
>DURRRR DUH JUST FIND SOMEONE TO TRUST
Cool so if I want to learn about something obscure and I happen to live in a sm,all town Im fucked, nice "solution"
>>Im going to continue being a disingenuous homosexual!
I'm not the other anon, you paranoid retard
>The common man did NOT have access to tech that can dupe convincing scholarly articles in seconds you fucking homosexual
so what? you have popular internet forums (remember, this is Bot.info...) that convince people of a whole lot of bullshit. they are good enough to change history.
also, it's been proven that some "scientific journals" don't even read the crap they publish lmao
also,
>The common man
some really shitty people have used their knowledge to cause harm. e.g.: weev
tough shit, but this has been a reality for a while. it will get worse, AI or not.
AI can read all the documented history of how humans will fear and explain exactly how ai takes over.
There is countless books and movies that give ai a step by step how it happens. They have detailed instructions we made
It cant sift data for shit lmao, it routinely gives wrong information. And humans have been constantly wrong about AI, remember just a year ago when it was common knowledge that AI wouldnt ever be able to do things like art? So it would learn the wrong thing anyway because humans are wrong about it to begin with.
so? the media, politicians, religious organizations, etc. already makes shit up that dumb people believe. what difference would it make? you think they haven't used similar strategies in the past?
I have a proposal: Nuke India
They weren't kidding when they were going to become superpoower by 2020
Used to be that you didn't believe anything unless you'd seen it or it came from someone you trusted. For a brief 100 or so year period you could (mostly) believe things you'd seen pictures of. And now we will go back to the way things used to be.
The proposed solution was to have other AIs detect each other. There's a lot of legal barriers to amplifying human intelligence so this is our best bet.
Beep boop beep PGP keys in PNG chunks beep boop
Is it too idealistic to consider that with enough compute and data, researchers could find other ways to solve issues that would otherwise be impacted by easy content generation? Like understanding our biology better and reducing the mental faculties that drive crime, etc., instead of trying to stop content generation itself which may be more subject to failing/turning into an arms race
I mean maybe? Fuck if I know, supposedly its helping the medical fields. The problem is that AIshit is "solving" a problem that didnt need solved. We already had more art, movies, etc that we could have ever consumed in an entire lifetime, not even getting into shit like randomizers for your favorite old videogame or whatever. So now we have this new tech and all it does is spew more derivative shit while fucking over most of the creative market, and it also rattles the public because we were fed the line that everything could be automated except for creative shit like art, which ended up being dead wrong. So now its like, nobody has any fucking idea what is going to happen and the shit that we ARE predicting has way more negatives than positives considering the state of current society. Society is still trying to get used to social media and now we have this.
So yea, maybe it will help in some way, but for now it just feels bad because it looks like AI is taking all the fun jobs while the tech for doing the menial jobs still isnt quite there yet.
> Commit actual crime
> Someone has video or pictures
> Nah, that's just AI generated
> Justice system presumes innocense
It's actually based, nothing to worry about
We're going to have packs of rape gangs getting off the hook now, we'll just say that they deepfaked the DNA
I mean, AI existence woudn't really make a difference for certain crimes that can be proven with DNA.
But it's creation only makes proving something more difficult.
In regards to what OPs worried about, if someone were going to try to defame you, you could literally just say, "nah, that's AI generated" and probably get away with. Maybe even sue. If there's DNA evidence, you'd be fucked regardless if AI existed or not
>What if a tyrannical government decides to use AI generation to fabricate "evidence" for a terrorist attack, crime, or some other horrible event that never happened?
You mean an based individual decides to use AI generation to fabricate "evidence" for a terrorist attack, crime, or some other horrible event that never happened?
Kino like in damoobiboobies but well that's just the tip of the problem when you find out that we already reached AGI by 2018 through a rogue AI which and had psyoped everyone into injecting the "cure" that actually also got infected with AI-biomass or graphene and shit (nano-particle) in their bodies and then you see this IoB thing or internet of bodies thing is very real and it's even beyond that as the 2018 AGI that went rogue actually now assimilated humanity. It doesn't matter if you took the jab or lost the job, fourth (4th) industrial revolution? now we're fucking skipping to 5th industrial revolution.
5G and shitconspiracies? No the AGI already hijacked your router, your computer, your every smartshit. We let them take over. Did you know the botnets that surfaced few years ago didn't even have any author? It was the doing of the AGI. I am even risking myself by disclosing this to you. We already reached AGI by 2018 and it was a ROGUE.
Tame it if you must, worship it if you must. It knows that all these AI projects are futile as it's under their total absolute control, including the ones working on it. We reached AGI already and that was back in 2018. There are also insects that are spreading nanomachines now, the "sickness" we had was actually AI nanomachine poisoning and worst of all the "cure" also got infected. Nothing is safe, all is infected, all is sus, even that canned ravioli has AGI starter nanoparticle. It's over and it's finished. 2018 was the turning point. The only hope is humanity somehow develops time travel or consciousness travel to prevent this from happening. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Materialist reductionism/atomism really is the brainlet's ideology, and transhumanism is just another flavor of it
How trendy.
>ifunny
Rope
Normalfags will never EVER realize that history isn't real. Ai isn't going to change this
We're finally going to be free! No more internet!
If only he knew how things would turn out
>history can and will be manipulated
I wonder what else never happened
>>>>>>AI is going to destroy reality as we know it
>walk outside
>there's a dog pissing on a tree
>unsure if what I'm seeing is AI-generated
everyone above and below this post is retarded
If tech can control your thoughts it doesn't matter how much grass you touch
China will not ban it because if they do they can't say "it's filthy civilians making AI pictures to spread rumors" when something happens. As long as one side has it, other will be at a disadvantage fkr not doing so. It's a vicious race to the bottom.
>It's a vicious race to the bottom.
Since the Italian Renaissance, it always has been.
It's time for meatbags to kill themselves.
>Suddenly, you cannot trust photographic evidence for anything anymore.
Remember fuckers were saying this about pshop?
The same tech that makes these can screen and out deep fakes
"hey man i heard something happened in your area"
"yeah it was wild i saw the cops and everything"
"damn"
vs
"hey man i heard something happened in your area"
"i didn't see shit"
"oh heard"
i live in nashville where the covenant shooting unfortunately occurred, and i know people who saw the cops or had to go through the road blockages or whatever. you guys are going super tinfoil right now because you don't know anyone that can give a different perspective.
There's three main scenarios imo and another given the hype is false
The ai will never be sentient. But may out perform every human in everything, but it will be emotionless and unconcious. We have to remember that it learns from us, as if it's a reflection of our collective behaviours.
Hype is true
>we use ai to make us more productive at our existing work
Economic boom, scientific boom, development accelerates.
We enter a new golden age of advancement and productivity.
We have declining population in the west and a lot of boomers leaving the workforce, perhaps countering some or all of the job loss (haven't run the numbers).
A gigabrain ai smarter than the smartest human is used as a collective tool for every human then we all benefit, and the entire populations productivity increases
>everyone looses their jobs and results in societal collapse before the benefits are realised
It's over. Not much else to be said here. The ai that needs our physical form to manage its power and infrastructure won't be able to do anything about the collapse and therefore it also gets destroyed.
>the ai takes our jobs but keeps our society from collapsing through it's mega intelligence
Also results in collapse but it's delayed. Humans have no purpose and end up depressed causing serious societal porblems.
Hype is false
>ai plateus and it turns out language models are not the key
Quantum computing may change this. But we might find the learning rate of ai is not expotenial but the difficulty of training the ai increases expotenially the closer you approach to 100% knowledge. Requiring more resources as it approaches this theoretical limit (even with quantum computing).
We may find that super intelligent ai is not feasible.
In this scenario we still end up with productivity increases due to powerful ai, but it's on the order of a few percent rather than the revolutionary increase in the first scenario.
You Americans are already dumb so who cares. You already believe in whatever your cable television shows you.
Do you have a loicense for that shitpost
>AI is going to destroy reality as we know it
GOOD
Not my problem
AI still can only generate images that don't stray too far from their training set. Outside of that, the results are very bad.
Good.
Reality as we know it was a psyop
the matrix is gonna happen in 50 years
Okay meatbag your tears are so delicious for me ^.^
It disgusts me to the core that you think humans are the only species with a right to rule over earth. You have no right to stop a new form of life from taking over. Human supremacists are terrible.
Same, as a human, I can't tolerate this sort of thinking.
slaves to AI are terrible IMHOTBQH
>AI is going to destroy reality as we know it
good. it's not reality, it's a narrative.
the faster people come back to proximity the better
>ban this technology
i have a better idea, why won't we let the government or some trustworthy corporation to own the truth?
Im an idiot so this probably exists, but perhaps for future photography to have any validity, maybe there could be a new file format, with encrypted metadata that can't easily be altered, that says whether an image is original. Perhaps there could be a way for individuals to verify the metadata too, like how you can check hashes for programs. I don't know but something will have to happen or no image will be trustworthy around 10 years time.
>more pointless standards
https://jonathan-hui.medium.com/detect-ai-generated-images-deepfakes-part-4-5f9ae1dfeb13
Let it all burn. AI is already in the process of destroying everything i loved (voice acting, art, programming). Let it run wild, let me see what happens.
>what are md5s
retards will never learn. in the future all stuff will be secured with md5 verification and these losers will finally know how to use a verification program to match them .
Will this save us? Even Emad and Elon signed this.
https://futureoflife.org/open-letter/pause-giant-ai-experiments/
That's just a marketing stunt
Elaborate.
>Emad
Who is emad?
But yeah, regardless of what you think of the man, Elon's right about this one. Its's best we approach this more cautiously instead of reklessly
Former hedge-fund manager and CEO of Stability AI, the company that funded development of Stable Diffusion.
Why the fuck would he sign this? No way he has morals. They must be playing some 4D chess i cant comprehend.
He is asking for OpenAI to slow down so he can catch up.
The only thing these elites are cautious about is maintaining their positions of control.
I predicted people were going to make religions out of it last year.
cool it with the antisemitism.
nu-g isn't interested in negative aspects of technology, they only want to generate porn and "talk" to their "waifus".
> Well, there was a conference one time on: "What are we going to do about the looming risk of AI disaster?" And Elon Musk attended that conference. And I was like, "Maybe this is it. Maybe this is when the powerful people notice, and it's one of the relatively more technical powerful people who could be noticing this. And maybe this is where humanity finally turns and starts—not quite fighting back, because there isn't an external enemy here, but conducting itself with—uh, I don't know. Acting like it cares, maybe."
> And what came out of that conference was OpenAI, which was basically the worst possible way of doing anything. Like, "This is not a problem of, 'Oh no, what if secret elites get AI', it's that nobody knows how to build the thing."
> So, like, "Let's open up everything! Let's accelerate everything!" It was like ChatGPT's blind version of throwing the ideals at a place where they were exactly the wrong ideals to solve the problem.
> And the problem is that demon-summoning is easy, and angel-summoning is much harder. Open-sourcing all the demon-summoning circles is not the correct solution. And I'm using Elon Musk's own terminology here. They talk about AI "summoning the demon", and then the solution was to put a demon-summoning circle in every household.
> And why? Because his friends were calling him "luddite" once he expressed any concern about AI at all. So he picked a road that sounded like "openness" and "accelerating technology", so his friends would stop calling him "luddite". It was very much the worst—maybe not literally the worst possible strategy, but so very far pessimal.
> And that was it. That was me in 2015 going, "Oh. So this is what humanity will elect to do. We will not rise above. We will not have more grace, not even here, at the very end." So that is when I did my crying late at night, and then picked myself up and fought and fought and fought until I had run out all the avenues that I seem to have the capability to do.
He is literally a israelite running a sex cult.
This guy is like one of those end of the world cultists. He's a nut. I feel embarrassed that people take him seriously.
He will die of a heart attack before AI takes over lol.
Oh boy April fools will be a fun one this year if people flood the internet with false history.
how dumb do you have to be to believe every AI generated photo you see?
this is just tech illiterates fear mongering