Yud and Hotz are having a debate on AI safety in 1.5 hours. Who are you rooting for?
https://www.youtube.com/live/6yQEA18C-XI
Yud and Hotz are having a debate on AI safety in 1.5 hours. Who are you rooting for?
Yud and Hotz are having a debate on AI safety in 1.5 hours. Who are you rooting for?
https://www.youtube.com/live/6yQEA18C-XI
Nobody will take Yud seriously while he continues to be a fat guy who wears a fedora. It doesn't matter if his arguments are correct or not.
>fat
Why do you have a picture of him half naked?
what a poor man
completely bald head
covered in hair everywhere else
Doesn't he have like 4 "wives" or whatever the fuck he calls them
Those are the gayest underwear ever. He's a gay right? Being smart must be hell.
hotz is based and yud is cringe. the debate has already been decided.
Pretty much, under Yud's vision we would have creepy fuckers like Sam Altman become gods basically
This. I fear malevolent AI is one of those scenarios where your only chance for survival was to act when the unhinged crazy sounding person with no evidence asked you to.
I think this might be true for all impending hostile takeover scenarios. They will almost always be conspiracies with little evidence. Alarmists will always notice something is wrong first. No one wants to be aligned with an alarmist.
Where the fuck did the last thread go? Two of the most public AI adjacent people debating the safety of such technology.
Decentralized AI gfs VS Nvidia must be nationalized
Which of these gays wants to censor AI chatbots? If the answer is "both of them," I couldn't care less what they have to say.
Only yudkowsky.
Okay then fuck him.
I want to run the largest possible AI at home, so I hope he wins.
They're polar opposites, Hotz wants to sell you 15k AI workstations to run the largest possible model at home, Yud wants the UN to bomb datacenters and GPU/NPU HW tightly controlled like nuclear material
I'm rooting for total 'AI philosophers' death.
not up to scratch on their exact points, but i think i heard geo talking about deregulation and mass distribution of AI so the governments don't have the sole power and if yud is gonna try argue against that idrk what to say other than i wonder how much he's getting paid?
garden gnome vs garden gnome oh nooooo OI VEY
AI is such a cult. You could replace this with 2 Christains debating when the apocalypse will happen and nothing would change.
Anything deemed important by enough humans always turns into a cult
who wants to join my pooping cult?
You can deem pooping unimportant, that would just make you shit your pants
yeah exactly thats why i made a cult around it
How do I join? Tired of the smell 2bh
that's what big toilet wants you to believe, and dont even get me started on the toilet paper lob
lobbyists.
i havent pooped in nearly a week and i have noticed no side effects except that i've stopped farting as well (coincidence? conspiracy)
anyway, and regardless, tonight to celebrate 7 whole days of no potty i'm having taco bell.
I'm rooting for GLOBAL THERMONUCLEAR WAR.
the comet
AI safety is a moot point. Pic related is running locally on my machine.
its not moot because pro-regulation people think that you shouldn't be allowed to do that, thats the point that needs arguing
This will be fun
>both of them see themselves as very smart and correct
We're going to hear some grade A autism, Yud will keep repeating alignment memes and Hotz will say it's useless
i love hotz because he will give me a catgirl maid girlfriend robot
AI techbros keep winning, the promised land doesn't build itself
> a failure of a programmer that got lucky using someone's bsd exploit 20 something years ago and got his asshole turned inside out by sony
> a "philosopher" that barely knows how to use a computer
amazing. no, i will not watch these abysmal and clueless failures of life. in fact, i'm going to block this youtube channel so i never have to see these failures ever again.
Two more weeks and one more paper AIgays.
Yud is one of those people who make you understand why bullying exists.
It appears his advanced lexicon has caused some seething
>heh
Hotzbros..
ITS UP
has Hotz solved cartpole or taken the drug test yet
damn Eliezer is nervous as fuck
Georgie already won by being calm and confident
jannies here are gays on another level. lumping this in with the ltt shit as if its even remotely comparable. yea they look the same if you're a fucking 115 iq unpaid BOT janny
how did this fat fuck get so popular, without any sort of education besides "self-taught" and any sort of important publications besides the institute he made up?
>how did this fat fuck get so popular,
with a fedora Harry Potter fanfic
Both of them have extremely shallow knowledge of AI and absolutely no achievements to speak of. That's what makes it fun.
Take it back. Big yudd has a harem and geohotz has a whole line of shit hes done. Take it back.
>has a whole line of shit hes done
Like what?
ceo of 3 companies and hacked the gaystation 3. lets hear about your awesome life, chudcel.
>hacked the gaystation 3
He took credit for that but he wasn't the one who actually found or wrote the initial exploit.
i don't think that is an accurate statement
hotz actually reads the papers and in methfueled benders manages to make code/models that kinda work
yud has never in his life actually worked with AI
but he has "won" his I'm an AI and I'll get out of the box challenge that no one is allowed to talk about
trust me bro
basically Hotz played basketball in high school
yud has never even done a layup in his life
but they are "experts" on basketball
diamond nanobots
You lil bros are one of them 1,500 lil bros watching it? It's a small world lil bros.
AUTOCOMPLETE AND HENTAI PIXEL ESTIMATORS ARE NOT "AI"
"AI SAFETY" is a term co-opted from ITS ACTUAL PHILOSOPHERgay MEANING
THE INDUSTRY uses it AS B2B PR SIGNALING AT BEST
And total FOUNDATION-RLHF-POISON-JUSTIFYING, MONOPOLY-CREATING FEAR INJECTION AT WORST.
There is no debate, there is just those who understand, those who will not, and ~~*the ones with ulterior motives.*~~
The latter two shall not be entertained at this time.
>I HATE CHICKEN LITTLE
>I HATE ARMCHAIR MACHINE LEARNING ENGINEERS
>I HATE NORMALgayS
>I HATE SILLYCON VALLEY
YOU ARE A SIMPLE PREDICTION ALGORITHIM CREATED BY A BIOLOGICAL MESH
lmfaoooooooo
Good lord Yud speaks like a retarded autist.
this is autism kino i'm gooning while watching this
It's a level of autism that only clueless tech bros with absolutely no self awareness can reach.
level your god damn fucking audio
holy shit, fucker almost blew my ears out
?????????
dude le robots want my atoms to throw into people
where will robots get carbon and H20 from otherwise? it's not like that stuff just floats in the air.
it's a real meeting of the mind. yud is clowning him
OH NO HE HAD TO FORCE THE LINE
I'm not sure if this is a good play for George
This is just two people getting a boner from imagining they're in a cyberpunk novel
The AIGP smirk
For Eli, it's Terminator.
i'm literally ryan gosling and I will use my good AI to fight the bad AI
since these two are retards lets ask the real great minds
so BOT
do you think that
>AI is good and not harmful
>AI is bad and will kill us all
AI is good and will kill us
AI's main purpose will forever be porn.
AI makes retards seethe, so I will use it regardless of whether it is good or bad for humanity
AI is good and not harmful because humanity is the mother's body and AI is the fetus, it grows according to what we feed it.
When it comes out of the mother, the baby still can't do shit, humanity still raises the baby.
Most mothers dont want their children to become murderers and yet...
AI is just a grift
My c***y printer is very real, not AGI but it has learned something fundamental or that wouldn't be possible
this is the really big political question of our time.
Its a fight between landian accelerationists and effective altruism fat nerds crying about how the ai will kill us all
you have to pick a side
yumans
What do you think Yud's hiding behind his divider?
His cuck corner
his wife having sex
gotta give it to you thats a pretty nice looking anus
LET ME JUMP IN REAL QUICK
SIRS THE BIRTH CANAL
I mean props to him and not clout whoring by being on the screen the ENTIRE time
Sure, but the comment was funny as shit
sirs so will the ai redeem the gpus or not? my village uses amd so I think ai will ignore us
How does a high iq autist become such a wordcel anyway? I thought high iq autists were all rainman types. And how come for a wordcel yudkowsky has a really hard time finding the right words to use, and instead relies on like-these-large-meandering-if-they-were-like-written-down-they-would-totally-be-connected-with-hyphens-type-analogies
Why is some rappers good at freestyling and some rappers is good at writing lyrics?
>is
You tell me ESL.
Sometimes humans are good at different things. Some are good at talking, some are good at writing.
Sometimes some people that are good at writing are not good at talking. Do you understand?
>wordcel
can we get this translated to english
he prolly realized how retarded that was and is now punching himself in the face offscreen
yo you got some tgirls? in the mood for some girlcock
Stop giving me a boner while im listening to yud speak, this is really weird
you sure its not just an md5 filter?
Yeah I tried taking a cropped screenshot and saving to jpg
NOOO PAJEET WTF DO YOU HAVE TO DO have a nice day STUPID moron
Yudd is a chud but i can't come up with a counterpoint to him
Midwits in chat siding with hotz because he does an epic rallying call at the end
Goerge said in his own streams that he was preparing to win the debate and we all know what that means. He was trying to win the audience rather than actually try to discuss things rationally and coldly. And that he was going to use dirty tactics (he showed the article 20 rules for radicals when talking about his previous debate).
What an awful debate. A complete and utter waste of time.
ok class, what did we learn today
Big Yud won. Geohotz quit earlier because he realized he was getting pounded
sums up every single AI risk discussion
George seemed surprised by how unfamiliar Yudkowsky was with the underlying material. For example he got Yudkowsky to just casually assert that the Byzantine generals problem is trivially solved by some AI magic.
The traps don't land because Yudkowsky has no shame in handwaving anything away
According to Yudd the AGIs are basically so smart that they can mind read each other and that solves the problem... or something
Yud is dominating. George is an even bigger brainlet than I thought.
Yud:
> ai will kill us to stop us from building better AI
> ai will not kill each other because they will mindread each other and solve the prisoner's dilemma
Assuming these are his positions, assumptions he makes:
1. killing us is the best way to stop AI production
2. ai can solve the prisoner's dilemma this way
also janny seethers autosaged the thread
kek just noticed the extreme thread spam in the catalog
some retard sperged out because his dupe thread got deleted
starting to think yud is a plant for the corporate garden gnomes, he's a complete cringecase
its very clear that those in power dont want the average "guy in his basement" to be able to work on AI research because they cant risk someone else having a better tool than them
dude did they actually listen to the BUY AN AD retards that spam every thread? you get like 50 clicks max on anything you spam here, nobody's fucking advertising shit here you idiots
A libertarian garden gnome vs a communist garden gnome. nice "debate"
I'm not the only one that thinks these guys are super autistic right?
they are both the embodiment of that annoying 'smart' friend who is actually just middling intelligence and wont shut up
Yeah, that's exactly the impression I got.
wrong
he's a retard