Yud and Hotz are having a debate on AI safety in 1.5 hours. Who are you rooting for?

Yud and Hotz are having a debate on AI safety in 1.5 hours. Who are you rooting for?

https://www.youtube.com/live/6yQEA18C-XI

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  1. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nobody will take Yud seriously while he continues to be a fat guy who wears a fedora. It doesn't matter if his arguments are correct or not.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >fat

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Why do you have a picture of him half naked?

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous
      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        what a poor man
        completely bald head
        covered in hair everywhere else

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Doesn't he have like 4 "wives" or whatever the frick he calls them

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Those are the gayest underwear ever. He's a gay right? Being smart must be hell.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      hotz is based and yud is cringe. the debate has already been decided.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Pretty much, under Yud's vision we would have creepy frickers like Sam Altman become gods basically

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      This. I fear malevolent AI is one of those scenarios where your only chance for survival was to act when the unhinged crazy sounding person with no evidence asked you to.

      I think this might be true for all impending hostile takeover scenarios. They will almost always be conspiracies with little evidence. Alarmists will always notice something is wrong first. No one wants to be aligned with an alarmist.

  2. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Where the frick did the last thread go? Two of the most public AI adjacent people debating the safety of such technology.
    Decentralized AI gfs VS Nvidia must be nationalized

  3. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Which of these gays wants to censor AI chatbots? If the answer is "both of them," I couldn't care less what they have to say.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Only yudkowsky.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Okay then frick him.

        They're polar opposites, Hotz wants to sell you 15k AI workstations to run the largest possible model at home, Yud wants the UN to bomb datacenters and GPU/NPU HW tightly controlled like nuclear material

        I want to run the largest possible AI at home, so I hope he wins.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      They're polar opposites, Hotz wants to sell you 15k AI workstations to run the largest possible model at home, Yud wants the UN to bomb datacenters and GPU/NPU HW tightly controlled like nuclear material

  4. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm rooting for total 'AI philosophers' death.

  5. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    not up to scratch on their exact points, but i think i heard geo talking about deregulation and mass distribution of AI so the governments don't have the sole power and if yud is gonna try argue against that idrk what to say other than i wonder how much he's getting paid?

  6. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    israelite vs israelite oh nooooo OI VEY

  7. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    AI is such a cult. You could replace this with 2 Christains debating when the apocalypse will happen and nothing would change.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Anything deemed important by enough humans always turns into a cult

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        who wants to join my pooping cult?

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          You can deem pooping unimportant, that would just make you shit your pants

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            yeah exactly thats why i made a cult around it

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              How do I join? Tired of the smell 2bh

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            that's what big toilet wants you to believe, and dont even get me started on the toilet paper lob

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              lobbyists.
              i havent pooped in nearly a week and i have noticed no side effects except that i've stopped farting as well (coincidence? conspiracy)

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                anyway, and regardless, tonight to celebrate 7 whole days of no potty i'm having taco bell.

  8. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm rooting for GLOBAL THERMONUCLEAR WAR.

  9. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    the comet

  10. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    AI safety is a moot point. Pic related is running locally on my machine.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      its not moot because pro-regulation people think that you shouldn't be allowed to do that, thats the point that needs arguing

  11. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    This will be fun
    >both of them see themselves as very smart and correct
    We're going to hear some grade A autism, Yud will keep repeating alignment memes and Hotz will say it's useless

  12. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    i love hotz because he will give me a catgirl maid girlfriend robot

  13. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    AI techbros keep winning, the promised land doesn't build itself

  14. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    > a failure of a programmer that got lucky using someone's bsd exploit 20 something years ago and got his butthole turned inside out by sony
    > a "philosopher" that barely knows how to use a computer
    amazing. no, i will not watch these abysmal and clueless failures of life. in fact, i'm going to block this youtube channel so i never have to see these failures ever again.

  15. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Two more weeks and one more paper AIgays.

  16. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yud is one of those people who make you understand why bullying exists.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      It appears his advanced lexicon has caused some seething

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >heh
        Hotzbros..

  17. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    ITS UP

  18. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    has Hotz solved cartpole or taken the drug test yet

  19. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    damn Eliezer is nervous as frick
    Georgie already won by being calm and confident

  20. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

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    jannies here are gays on another level. lumping this in with the ltt shit as if its even remotely comparable. yea they look the same if you're a fricking 115 iq unpaid bot janny

  21. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    how did this fat frick get so popular, without any sort of education besides "self-taught" and any sort of important publications besides the institute he made up?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >how did this fat frick get so popular,
      with a fedora Harry Potter fanfic

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Both of them have extremely shallow knowledge of AI and absolutely no achievements to speak of. That's what makes it fun.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Take it back. Big yudd has a harem and geohotz has a whole line of shit hes done. Take it back.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >has a whole line of shit hes done
          Like what?

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            ceo of 3 companies and hacked the gaystation 3. lets hear about your awesome life, chudcel.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              >hacked the gaystation 3
              He took credit for that but he wasn't the one who actually found or wrote the initial exploit.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        i don't think that is an accurate statement
        hotz actually reads the papers and in methfueled benders manages to make code/models that kinda work
        yud has never in his life actually worked with AI
        but he has "won" his I'm an AI and I'll get out of the box challenge that no one is allowed to talk about
        trust me bro

        basically Hotz played basketball in high school
        yud has never even done a layup in his life
        but they are "experts" on basketball

  22. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    diamond nanobots

  23. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    You lil homies are one of them 1,500 lil homies watching it? It's a small world lil homies.

  24. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    AUTOCOMPLETE AND HENTAI PIXEL ESTIMATORS ARE NOT "AI"
    "AI SAFETY" is a term co-opted from ITS ACTUAL PHILOSOPHERgay MEANING
    THE INDUSTRY uses it AS B2B PR SIGNALING AT BEST
    And total FOUNDATION-RLHF-POISON-JUSTIFYING, MONOPOLY-CREATING FEAR INJECTION AT WORST.
    There is no debate, there is just those who understand, those who will not, and ~~*the ones with ulterior motives.*~~
    The latter two shall not be entertained at this time.
    >I HATE CHICKEN LITTLE
    >I HATE ARMCHAIR MACHINE LEARNING ENGINEERS
    >I HATE NORMALgayS
    >I HATE SILLYCON VALLEY

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      YOU ARE A SIMPLE PREDICTION ALGORITHIM CREATED BY A BIOLOGICAL MESH

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      lmfaoooooooo

  25. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Good lord Yud speaks like a moronic autist.

  26. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    this is autism kino i'm gooning while watching this

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's a level of autism that only clueless tech bros with absolutely no self awareness can reach.

  27. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    level your god damn fricking audio
    holy shit, fricker almost blew my ears out

  28. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    ?????????

  29. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    dude le robots want my atoms to throw into people

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      where will robots get carbon and H20 from otherwise? it's not like that stuff just floats in the air.

  30. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    it's a real meeting of the mind. yud is clowning him

  31. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    OH NO HE HAD TO FORCE THE LINE
    I'm not sure if this is a good play for George

  32. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    This is just two people getting a boner from imagining they're in a cyberpunk novel

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      The AIGP smirk

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      For Eli, it's Terminator.

  33. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    i'm literally ryan gosling and I will use my good AI to fight the bad AI

  34. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    since these two are morons lets ask the real great minds
    so BOT
    do you think that
    >AI is good and not harmful
    >AI is bad and will kill us all

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      AI is good and will kill us

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      AI's main purpose will forever be porn.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      AI makes morons seethe, so I will use it regardless of whether it is good or bad for humanity

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      AI is good and not harmful because humanity is the mother's body and AI is the fetus, it grows according to what we feed it.

      When it comes out of the mother, the baby still can't do shit, humanity still raises the baby.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Most mothers dont want their children to become murderers and yet...

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      AI is just a grift

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        My c***y printer is very real, not AGI but it has learned something fundamental or that wouldn't be possible

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      this is the really big political question of our time.

      Its a fight between landian accelerationists and effective altruism fat nerds crying about how the ai will kill us all

      you have to pick a side

  35. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    yumans

  36. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    What do you think Yud's hiding behind his divider?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      His cuck corner

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      his wife having sex

  37. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    gotta give it to you thats a pretty nice looking anus

  38. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    LET ME JUMP IN REAL QUICK

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      SIRS THE BIRTH CANAL

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        I mean props to him and not clout whoring by being on the screen the ENTIRE time

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Sure, but the comment was funny as shit

  39. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    sirs so will the ai redeem the gpus or not? my village uses amd so I think ai will ignore us

  40. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    How does a high iq autist become such a wordcel anyway? I thought high iq autists were all rainman types. And how come for a wordcel yudkowsky has a really hard time finding the right words to use, and instead relies on like-these-large-meandering-if-they-were-like-written-down-they-would-totally-be-connected-with-hyphens-type-analogies

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why is some rappers good at freestyling and some rappers is good at writing lyrics?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >is
        You tell me ESL.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Sometimes humans are good at different things. Some are good at talking, some are good at writing.
          Sometimes some people that are good at writing are not good at talking. Do you understand?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >wordcel
      can we get this translated to english

      Sure, but the comment was funny as shit

      he prolly realized how moronic that was and is now punching himself in the face offscreen

  41. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

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    yo you got some tgirls? in the mood for some girlwiener

  42. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Stop giving me a boner while im listening to yud speak, this is really weird

  43. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    you sure its not just an md5 filter?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah I tried taking a cropped screenshot and saving to jpg

  44. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    NOOO PAJEET WTF DO YOU HAVE TO DO have a nice day STUPID Black person

  45. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yudd is a chud but i can't come up with a counterpoint to him

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Midwits in chat siding with hotz because he does an epic rallying call at the end

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Goerge said in his own streams that he was preparing to win the debate and we all know what that means. He was trying to win the audience rather than actually try to discuss things rationally and coldly. And that he was going to use dirty tactics (he showed the article 20 rules for radicals when talking about his previous debate).

  46. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    What an awful debate. A complete and utter waste of time.

  47. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    ok class, what did we learn today

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Big Yud won. Geohotz quit earlier because he realized he was getting pounded

  48. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    sums up every single AI risk discussion

  49. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    George seemed surprised by how unfamiliar Yudkowsky was with the underlying material. For example he got Yudkowsky to just casually assert that the Byzantine generals problem is trivially solved by some AI magic.
    The traps don't land because Yudkowsky has no shame in handwaving anything away

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      According to Yudd the AGIs are basically so smart that they can mind read each other and that solves the problem... or something

  50. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yud is dominating. George is an even bigger brainlet than I thought.

  51. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yud:
    > ai will kill us to stop us from building better AI
    > ai will not kill each other because they will mindread each other and solve the prisoner's dilemma

    Assuming these are his positions, assumptions he makes:
    1. killing us is the best way to stop AI production
    2. ai can solve the prisoner's dilemma this way

    also janny seethers autosaged the thread

  52. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    kek just noticed the extreme thread spam in the catalog

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      some moron sperged out because his dupe thread got deleted

  53. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    starting to think yud is a plant for the corporate israelites, he's a complete cringecase

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      its very clear that those in power dont want the average "guy in his basement" to be able to work on AI research because they cant risk someone else having a better tool than them

  54. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    dude did they actually listen to the BUY AN AD morons that spam every thread? you get like 50 clicks max on anything you spam here, nobody's fricking advertising shit here you idiots

  55. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    A libertarian israelite vs a communist israelite. nice "debate"

  56. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm not the only one that thinks these guys are super autistic right?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      they are both the embodiment of that annoying 'smart' friend who is actually just middling intelligence and wont shut up

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, that's exactly the impression I got.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          wrong
          he's a moron

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