>Windows 12 will require dedicated AI hardware just to run the OS

>Windows 12 will require “dedicated AI hardware” just to run the OS

What do they need that for exactly?

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  1. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    It will either be NPUs or offloaded to the GPU. So far Copilot is just Clippy 3.0. (Cortana was 2.0).

  2. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >>What do they need that for exactly?
    forcing people to throw out old hardware and buy new stuff

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >SAARS U BLUDDY BASTERD SAARS INDIA IS EARTH OF FREND U BASTERD. U SHUT FRICK UR MOUTH BICH!
      >Captcha : S0DW0H

  3. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    nothing nefarious, they have datacenter AIs they feed with the telemetry from your factory backdoored OS, this will be consumer gimmicks to sell you "AI Hardware". You will still, of course, be expected to buy $20 subscriptions to all the major AI providers like a good user.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      it's actually very dangerous
      ios already tags automatically all pictures using AI engine
      in the future Windows will use AI to tag/summarize all your documents and will send this data home
      if you ever had ~~*questionable*~~ content on your computer they will know

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        simple solution; don't break the law

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          that's not enough

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            how so?

            • 6 months ago
              Anonymous

              >you take a picture of your newborn
              >next day get arrested for cp
              You will defend this.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                That's not illegal

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                >things that won't happen

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/21/technology/google-surveillance-toddler-photo.html

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                You got a non-paywall article?

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                Google it and read whichever article you want

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                it's enough for stuff to be ~~*questionable*~~ in order to use it against you
                something may not be questionable now but it may in the future and your history will stay there forever
                something is legal in my country but in the country of software developer

                [...]
                more likely
                >they will flag your account and "suspend" it
                >you won't be able to do your work anymore
                >you may lose the job as a result

                >have picture of your newborn on pc
                >jump in logic
                >os ai decides to label you a pedophile
                >jump in logic
                >os ai decides to get you arrested for cp or dox you and get you fired from your job
                >you sue os for defamation

            • 6 months ago
              Anonymous

              it's enough for stuff to be ~~*questionable*~~ in order to use it against you
              something may not be questionable now but it may in the future and your history will stay there forever
              something is legal in my country but in the country of software developer

              >you take a picture of your newborn
              >next day get arrested for cp
              You will defend this.

              more likely
              >they will flag your account and "suspend" it
              >you won't be able to do your work anymore
              >you may lose the job as a result

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                Can you give me an example of something that you do now that you suspect will be used against you in the future?

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                Not him but having opinions that one side of the political spectrum wants to suppress because they think it's dangerous for society.
                Stuff that's pro trans, anti gun, etc for the right, and anti immigration, anti lgbt, anti critical race theory, etc.
                A lot of people already consider antisemitism a crime punishable by prison, and a lot of people think criticism of how Israel "protects itself" constitutes antisemitism.

                You may be able to freely state any opinion you want, but you can't assume that this will always be the case, and all of your communications are very likely to be stored, essentially in perpetuity.
                Look at how China treats its dissidents, and how it finds them through the same means we're talking about here.
                You can't assume that the political landscape of your country won't shift to something similar to China's in the next 10+ years, and if it does, the government will have a list of all the dangerous people who've been shown to have "dangerous ideas" (just like in any totalitarian regime ever, except now they can instantly scan enormous amounts of information about you with the specific goal of finding something to punish you for).
                The only wise option is to never let the government (and the corporations whose user data is directly accessible by the government, as we've seen with Prism) have any information about you.

                TL;DR:
                >it's just a census, why wouldn't we tell the German government what religion we believe in? It's not like it's a crime to be israeli haha stop being so paranoid!!

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                You didn't answer the question

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                I did.
                One thing I do now is openly share my opinions on political or politicized topics with those whom I discuss those topics with. Like most people (but I suspect that most normies don't have opinions as extreme or unusual).
                If the government knows about those opinions, I have no way of guaranteeing that it won't use them to justify some kind of punishment, for the reasons detailed in the post.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I have extreme and unusual opinions that are going to get me thrown in jail
                Like what?

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                >that are going to get me thrown in jail
                Don't misconstrue my point. I didn't say that. I said that they MIGHT in the future warrant some kind of action, which might be prison, or some kind of erosion of my rights ("dangerous people can't be allowed to X!").
                Look at China and other past and present totalitarian regimes if you want examples.
                I'm not going to post my personal opinions ITT. The short version doesn't contain enough nuance or context and the long version takes too much time.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, we get it, slippery slope, end of the world yadda yadda. You homosexuals are like broken records. Tomorrow Tupac MIGHT drive up on your ass the moment you walk out the door. So what? Are you going to advocate that nobody should leave their homes?

                If you have an oppressive government you've got bigger things to worry about than your daily cycle of jerking off to tucker carlson, seething at imaginary trannies and "woke" media, then jerking off to your 800 year-old dragon toddlerkon. Get a life.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                Come back when you have an argument that isn't a strawman trying to argue against something I haven't said but is convenient for you to throw insults and mischaracterize me personally instead of addressing the core point.
                Frick me for taking you seriously for a moment.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                Your fault for thinking people argue in good faith

                This is an absolute pornography. I can run Linux even on hairdryer or mechanical watch. But for W12 I'll need special hardware. LoL

                They want AI accelerators because they want to incorporate AI into everything on Windows. They want it replace monitoring daemons, anti virus software, search, etc.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                So cool! A private company is using an integrated AI to spy my life and work 24/7. I'd rather throw away my computer through the window.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                There is no argument - you couldn't answer my initial question, so instead you made up this whole head cannon about how you might get persecuted for some unknown activity. It's as pointless as saying we're going to get hit by an asteroid at some point in the future so we may as well kill ourselves now.

                You created the strawman because you won't be up front about what the actual issue is.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                You have zero reading comprehension AND zero knowledge of history.
                If you're not worried about something that has happened in the past, is happening right now in other countries, and isn't guaranteed to not happen in your country in the future, then good for you. Live a less stressful life and hopefully you're correct and nothing will happen.

                But saying that any worry about a potential future danger is some made up delusion is ridiculous.
                I could say the same about you thinking that at no point in the future your country is ever going to bring totalitarian measures into effect.

                >You created the strawman because you won't be up front about what the actual issue is.
                I told you explicitly and very clearly what the actual issue is. Just because you're ideologically inclined to dismiss it a priori doesn't mean it's not a real concern that people have (which is fine to disagree with).

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yep, it's a made up delusion until it happens. Now, answer my initial question.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                i supported the corona lockdowns precisely because i don't want people leaving their homes

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          What if the law is don’t disagree with current trendy bullshit

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'm not familiar with laws outside the US

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            No one cares about your cherry picked pol infographics

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          You wont need to
          ~~*they*~~ are watching

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            sounds schizophrenic

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          Bait, or people like you should kys, or you need help kys.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >problem: don't want to get thrown in jail
            >solution: don't commit a crime
            >WOOOOOOW THIS HAS TO BE BAIT BECAUSE IT'S MAKING ME SO ANGRY KYS homosexual
            meds

            • 6 months ago
              Anonymous

              posting on BOT will get you flagged as a hate criminal and a potential domestic terrorist

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                I've been flagged for 20 years. Nothing will happen you hysterical homosexual

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          >take completely normal pictures for perfectly reasonable reasons
          >ai randomly decides they are csam or evidence of terrorist activities because it was made by a moron
          >fight costly and embarrasing court battle because some dumb npc moron is physically incapable of recognizing very obvious flaws in this master plan
          >lose your family and your job due to public embarrasment when media runs the story on your arrest
          >develop an elaborate plan to find out who 98189991 involving social engineering, tendies, and sauce
          >go to his mother's basement
          >confront him
          >become agitated and frustrated when 98189991 pretends that he has no idea what you are talking about because mindless automatons can't remember anything theyve ever posted
          >shove his face into the wall
          >start rambling about how you hate the antichrist
          >ignore the voices telling you to pour the oil all over the skin
          >ignore the voices telling you to pour the oil all over the skin
          >ignore the voices telling you to pour the oil all over the skin
          >pour the oil all over the skin
          >obtain the happiness.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Thanks for the schizopost, that was really funny. Friendly reminder to not break the law though and you'll be fine.

            • 6 months ago
              Anonymous

              Your mother was a dumb prostitute you know that?

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yes I do, but what does that have to do with the fact that you didn't take your pills this morning?

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          Based, all this shit is only done for CSAM, kiddy diddlers can get fricked

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          So much this. If your problem is law enforcement doing their jobs then you have a serious problem.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        iOS does that offline

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      new computers suck

  4. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >recommended
    >required

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      OP has autism, please understand

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >picrel says ai hardware might be raccomended
      >OP says windows will REQUIRE ai hardware just to run the OS
      Op is a gay and should rope himself, can't even read

      >might be
      >recommended
      >Windows 12 will require
      illiterate baboon

      >require
      recommend*

      >recommended
      >required

      Just like win11 recommends 4gb ram (hint: it's not enough)

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        I recommend that you shut the frick up

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      OP simply looks for topics to sperg about. Simple as.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Its REQUIRED for OEM PC sellers.
      Recommended for standard users who install the OS by themselves.
      Has been like this for whatever requirements windows has put since xp or so

  5. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    They will run distributed calculations without you knowing.

  6. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >picrel says ai hardware might be raccomended
    >OP says windows will REQUIRE ai hardware just to run the OS
    Op is a gay and should rope himself, can't even read

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      > The water isn't getting any hotter! Why the frick do you want out of the stock-pot!

  7. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    To make poors like you seethe and shit yourselves.
    Look at your endless pissing and moaning that your 15 year-old Reddit terminals won't run Windows 11 without bypasses.

  8. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    AI hardware to build a usable index of your system, kind of like notebook LLM but for your personal files.

  9. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >might be
    >recommended
    >Windows 12 will require
    illiterate baboon

  10. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    *makes all devs who don't use windows obsolete*
    Nothing personell kid

  11. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >What do they need that for exactly?
    For mining bitcoins and training their ai models

  12. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I can't wait for the train wreck win12 is gonna be.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Normturds have no standards or thoughts, they may complain a little but they will ultimately gobble up daddy Microsoft's wiener.
      The only wreck is PCs falling out of favor due to phones/tablets and Microshit not having a market there.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Normturds
        >Microshit
        But anon, normies don't even use PCs anymore.
        Windows on PCs is now exclusively for morons who are either not smart enough for linux or not "rich" enough for mac.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      If 12 isn't good by the time 10 dies I'm actually gonna do it, I'm gonna do Linux, for real this time

  13. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Linux once again confirmed as the OS for my fellow weird looking apes

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Forcing yourself to use garbage software as an alternative to garbage software is not the answer. I will just continue to use Windows 7. If I'm pushed out of using other modern software because of it, so be it.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        When you are done with win 7 we will be waiting for you over here on the Linux side. The sooner you leap and get used to it the better

  14. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Normies don't even understand AI, they won't say GPU because you can rewrite it as AI tensor accelerator and it'll drive more clicks and pump up NVDA.

    It means Windows 12 is entirely electron based and this requires hardware acceleration to not run like utter shit

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Windows Window Manager coming to a Linux near you

  15. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    on-device "yikes, that's bad speak"

  16. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    might legit switch to mac if this shit wont stop (never used apple in my life and troonix is a gimmick)

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      I don't regret it. Virtualized, unactivated Win10 has been sufficient for my occasional use.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      macOS is sort of in the same situation. Gets worse with every iteration and you just want to stay on the old versions.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Macs have tensor coprocessors now. It's just a matter of time before Apple starts using them.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      I am so thankful I don't care about modern games. I will just keep my install of 10 on an SSD offline and never update anything on it and use gnu/loonix for everything else.

  17. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >require
    recommend*

  18. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >recommended
    >required

  19. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    > AI

    Lmao they are going to get mogged by a fricking newspaper

  20. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >What do they need that for exactly?
    Someone's gotta pay that Einstein trial

  21. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >What do they need that for exactly?
    would you rather send everything off to MS servers?
    honestly it's hard for me to believe that they're not pushing everyone off hardware so they can sell them remote processing via subscription

  22. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Oh cool another hardware "feature" that will be required by Windows just like the TPM in 11

  23. 6 months ago
    ⠠⠍⠯⠊⠉

    >dedicated AI hardware

  24. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    in menu ads obv. this will help them predict and manipulate your behavior even when your internet connection is broken or poor

  25. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm real worried about all the Windows machines I use that don't have a GPU. All 0 of them.

  26. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >may
    >might
    Call me when that actually happens.

  27. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    It'll constantly scan your pc for pirated media and software.

  28. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    WHAT DEDICATED AI HARDWARE
    THERE IS NO CONSUMER AI HARDWARE
    GPUS ARE NOT AI HARDWARE

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Probably referring to the AI processing units shipping in some brand new CPUs. So far I think they're only on laptop chips, but I know the AMD 7840HS and 7940HS have one and a couple of the higher tier Intel Meteor Lake processors.

  29. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I can run windows98 on pcem

  30. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    They're absolutely going to walk this back. I can see some utility for AI capable CPUs and GPUs being semi-standard, but making it the bare minimum will price almost everyone out of the market.

  31. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I highly doubt this. They already saw the problems of requiring tpm on every machine that runs 11, so requiring even more hardware to run 12 for a feature nobody is going to use would be completely moronic on their part.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >so requiring even more hardware to run 12 for a feature nobody is going to use would be completely moronic on their part.
      Every single Windows since 7 (and arguably including Vista) has been taking a basic kernel and DE that work well enough and making it worse in various ways, they don't care because Windows has hellishly effective vendor lock and the competition is incompetent too

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        OK but almost nobody has upgraded to 11 because of the stupid TPM bull unless they bought their PC new. Same thing is going to happen with 12 if this is true, except it's going to be worse because they don't have "much security" as an excuse

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          there's TPM in newer CPUs, you don't need the chip in that case

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      I have yet to hear a single argument why I should have TPM that wasn't buzzword-crammed marketing spiel

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        So your purchases can be locked to your identity, which will map 1:1 with your devices like with Apple's ecosystem.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          ...and I want this, why?

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            ze vill use ze windows store.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Everything isn't about YOU, it's about society. And society needs your purchases to be locked to "you," and you need to be tracked. For society.

            • 6 months ago
              Anonymous

              But it is all about your interactions, your installed hardware, software, and any data that can possibly be collected while your hardware also helps train their shit locally.

            • 6 months ago
              Anonymous

              Sociedeeze nuts, homosexual.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Your mistake is thinking Microsoft won't simply remotely disable all versions of Windows except 12.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >we will live to see a world where Windows is 3rd in market share after MacOS and SteamOS (Microsoft will probably rename Windows 12 to WindowsOS to fit in at this point)

  32. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >dedicated AI hardware might be recommended
    >will require “dedicated AI hardware”
    found the moron who failed third grade reading

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      1. You're not the first or the second or the tenth person in the thread to mindlessly repeat this so work on your own reading
      2. Vista was "compatible" with 1GHz Pentium 4s with 1GB of RAM and 64MB of VRAM. How did Vista run on such a system? Like absolutely fricking dogshit. Either you're too young to remember that or so old you forgot it, or a street shitting thirdie who didn't have electricity back then.

  33. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >dedicated Ai hardware
    So the start menu is going to get even worse?

  34. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    B O T N E T
    O
    T
    N
    E
    T

  35. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    You have a carrier as a journo OP

  36. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >“dedicated AI hardware”
    what exactly is AI hardware supposed to be even?

  37. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    So will the AI snitch on us?

  38. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    probably putting whisper directly into the OS for better voice recognition

  39. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    It would surprise me if windows 12 or 13 is just a chromium/electron bootloader that is always online and require subscription.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      The future is thin clients.

  40. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    For surveillance. Img to text isnt cheap.

  41. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >article headline
    >AI hardware might be recommended
    >OP
    >will require dedicated AI hardware
    lol... this is proof journalists use this website.

  42. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >journalist boots up computer
    >hmmm what will I write today...?
    >I know!
    >WORLD MIGHT END TOMORROW, MAYBE YOU SHOULD DO THERE 10 THINGS BEFORE YOU DIE
    >there, not a lie, publish it!

  43. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >windows 12
    the frick? windows 11 has been out for all of 2 years

  44. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    take me back

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      xfce+chicago95

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        anon, linux is garbage

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          Windows lost it's soul in 2015. Enjoy contributing to the Bing botnet.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            still, there are no viable alternatives

            • 6 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Windows has no buldge
              Inaccurate.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >windows lost it is soul

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      kde + reactionary theme + kde se98 icons from the kde store.

  45. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    recommended -> OP's stupid fricking brain -> required

  46. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    personal computing is problematic and unsafe

    trust the cloud

  47. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Assimilation to the Red Queen AI beast system buried below Denver Airport. Why do you think there's a massive push for IoT everything? The hidden hands still use analog to this day while pushing digital for the masses because analog cannot be tracked.

  48. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    What if I keep using Linux?

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      No AI fun for you

  49. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    a weird and insane race has started, fueled by goverments + corporate, for complete end user control. they need to obsolete as much older hardware as possible because they want to get pozzed hardware and software to EVERYONE asap.
    the more time they waste not doing it the more money "they lose" mentality. this will only pick up steam and we'll hardly have any choices

  50. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    You can now uninstall it in the EU. Thank EU for being based abd redpilled. We need more big tech regulations.

  51. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    This is an absolute pornography. I can run Linux even on hairdryer or mechanical watch. But for W12 I'll need special hardware. LoL

  52. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Of course win12 will come out in 6 months that's why Microsoft hasn't announced anything yet or made any form of advertisements. Because that's how marketing works.

  53. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    windows 12 will need a constant connection to a brain implant to identify users

  54. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >dedicated AI hardware

    So a Nvdia GPU?
    Like im not even trolling, you only need a gpu to run AI, no? Or does it refer to something else?

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      It basically means you can not have a ancient gpu or cpu, yes
      Its over for thirld worldies

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >It basically means you can not have a ancient gpu or cpu
        No computer able to officially run Windows 11 has ancient CPUs so...

  55. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    because folding@nasa never worked out
    but the idea was so fricking ripe
    >we'd rather harvest data to make you consume more, than to put all of us into space

  56. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    pushing advertisements

  57. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    People accepted TPM crap, you really thought they would double down on this?

  58. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >You have to buy a new computer becau-ACK

    We've got lifetimes worth of games/software/movies/music. At worst I drop all the future stuff and use some shitty laptop or macbook for email or internet shopping, but I can live without all the nu-age stuff. The old computers you want to throw out can still play (good, but old) games, OFFLINE.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >>You have to buy a new computer becau-ACK
      Do you have hardware from 2012?

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        My preferred machine is from 2011, but I own one I built in 2018 and a laptop from 2021. My reluctance get rid of the old stuff is more to do with Microsoft implementing some gay bullshit that won't let programs deemed too old run because muh security or some such thing. Luckily we have an abundance of cracked exes so I can continue playing the steam games I paid for despite valve breaking/blocking older machines in the future from accessing the library without a newer computer.

  59. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    They want to see how much e-girl porn you have on your hard drive. They want to mine shitcoin using your system.

  60. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why do they keep pushing copilot when its so atrociously bad? It's like Clippy all over but with a different type of knowledge base attached to it.

  61. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >if I could kill anyone it would be reasonable and logical people so the only ones who remain are reactionary manchildren like myself so the earth would come to a screeching halt
    wild, good thing incels have no real power over anyone or even their own lives

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