Why are they so happy about automating themselves out of a career? Their enthusiasm for AI is genuine insanity.
Why are they so happy about automating themselves out of a career? Their enthusiasm for AI is genuine insanity.
Why are they so happy about automating themselves out of a career? Their enthusiasm for AI is genuine insanity.
You mistake it for a forum about tech workers, its not. Its a forum for Ycombinator, a startup accelerator and venture capital firm.
HN has more tech workers per capita than bot does to be honest.
>tech workers
glow Black folk you mean. Every second shitposter on there is a unironic glow Black person shilling the latest agenda. Those who stray from the pack get censored.
>"Do people actually have jobs?"
>"No, they must be paid shills"
I see constant whining and complaining about muh copyright and all that shit there in random news articles about ai bad posts. In more technical links it's usually people discussing details about ai
Every time someone's job is automated, society at large gains much more than that individual loses. The path to a good future for humanity is automating as many jobs as possible and redistributing the economic gains to compensate everyone who lost their jobs. It's stupid to try to detail this plan.
Derail not detail.
>there are still people working in a factories despite the factories are being automated by some machines
really?
>This.
Also,
population's culling.
The path to a good future is population's culling. The fewer the people at the table, the bigger the cake's slice.
>population's culling.
The death cult members can start with themselves and frick off already.
I can conceivably see automating most jobs, i have very little faith the capital classes are gonna want to "redistribute" much of anything
>redistributing the economic gains to compensate everyone who lost their jobs
how is life in la-la land, buddy? pure delusion
you are right, but the devaluation campaign carried out by corporations and states on software does not occur in any other sector. on the contrary, control and gate keeping is increasing under the pretext of safety. according to a regulation passed last year, in order to buy aspirin, i have to make an appointment with a doctor, pay the examination fee and convince them for a prescription. if aspirin can harm me, software produced by an unaccredited person or by automation can also harm doctors and pharmacists, and even their patients.
>society at large gains
Your definition of society better be the top 0,001%
FRICK society
>another thread about hypothetical fears around "ai" next token predictors, this time it's jobs
>all the while us unemployment is at a record low and llms been out for years
It's so tiresome
B-But if I extrapolate enough it means that next year AI will write 100% of the code
Because every SWE thinks they're a genius being held back by morons.
In 15 years, jobs as we know them will be gone because ai+robots will do 99% of them.
We can't stop it, therefore accelerate. This world was never for autists anyway.
Didn't you say that in 1980s when expert systems came about? 1995 was supposed to have flying cars.
We know now compression is intelligence (Hutter) and SGD trained deep nets compress and generalize at scale to the limit we can't see even approaching.
Compression is a thing we could expect an intelligent being does. But it is not sufficient to be an efficient compressor to be intelligent.
you need to be 18 to post here
it's true, it feels like every month or two now something groundbreaking comes out (sora, figure, devin, etc.)
there is too much funding and too many smart people working on it now to stop this train
Some of us own businsses and don't want too many developers who do nothing more than sucking value out of the system.
Wait until learns that what programmers do isn't actually 'coding' but figuring out whatever vague bullshit requirements need implementing.
The reason you won't automate software engineers is simple: you lack the language and technical skills necessary to define the problem you want to solve.
Believe it or not - the AI thing has already played out. Before LLMs some engineers at a YC backed company wrote a tool that let anyone generate graphical UIs by drawing them. Guess what happened? Non-technical users couldn't figure out how to draw interfaces that were logically consistent or in any way related to programs.
The same thing is now happening with LLMs writing code. You see that they're not doing the full job of an engineer. They'll do a subset like maybe translate a highly technical, detailed issue in a repo to a 'fix' (that then needs manual approval) or write code from a set of requirements already so technical that they might as well have just been code in the first place. A normal users though with themselves and the AI? Maybe replace a few basic use cases like 'make me an exel macro that ...' but they won't be doing engineering.
Anon do you remember name of that tool?
Basically any ladder-logic UI in the last 5 decades
>Believe it or not - the AI thing has already played out. Before LLMs some engineers at a YC backed company wrote a tool that let anyone generate graphical UIs by drawing them. Guess what happened? Non-technical users couldn't figure out how to draw interfaces that were logically consistent or in any way related to programs.
LLMs are worse than that. At least with a the UI failure the average person could tell that the generated result was faulty. A non-technical user generating code they don't understand and cannot debug, but "works for now" is going to create so many problems as context changes and time moves on.
This. Good luck understanding the constantly changing requirements that the product owner doesn't fully get himself, little robot. Also, the architect solution isn't working because he didn't take into account that webservice A didn't provide the correct field needed, figure that out, contact the guy, design a new architecture etc
Because they code for fun and you're typical BOT thirdworlder who is in it just for money
an alarming amount of HN users are from India
go on a Who's Hiring thread and look at the sheer shitflood of Indians begging for work, they always want relocation too to escape their shit huts.
You know why I became a software developer? Because I _don't_ want to deal with stuff. For the same reason I have a well, I also do away with other chores. The entire point of a job is to have less of it in the future.
Obviously I'm not rooting for monopolized remote-only gigaisraelite AI that leaves you all the work anyway, but democratized local access to great AIs for the people.
These guys are more moronic than this average windows sysadmin. They adore proprietary shitware, they were even enthusiastic about tiktok.
>yet more panic over ai while all the jobs are being taken by mexico, india, and taiwan
I tire of such rhetoric.
They are smarter on average than the people here. Those are not codemonkeys electron webdevs, those are the people making the AI that is gonna destroy your life (not theirs), and collecting millions for doing it. Why wouldn't they be enthusiastic?
Glad to clear that up for you.
i would bet at least half the traffic there is fake