Why are programmers charging so much in the age of ChatGPT and copilot?
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Why are programmers charging so much in the age of chatgpt and copilot? I might try posting gigs on upwork actually.
same reason housewives fall for obvious pyramid schemes
same reason FX trading courses charge $1000 but promise 100% pm returns
same reason code camps exist
"take this course and land a 300K programmer job guaranteed"
stupid people are easy to trick with greed
Because they can. It's a market, stupid.
>age of chatgpt and copilot?
Neither of these will replace programmers.
they already do a better job than anurag and the other sirs in this image
They literally can't even replace the dumbest pajeet the world has ever seen.
Stop being tech illiterate.
and who will ask chatgpt to open source code of a project, to find a spot where problem are, apply specific fix or logic change, do the testing, building, deploying?
sure, your typical boss have no other tasks other than sit and ask chatgpt all day
you still need a monkey that would do the asking
I hate this fricking argument so much. Why can't people think about what the next 10 years will look like for AI? Think about the fricking future. If the tools are so powerful NOW they are going to be fricking overpowered in 10 years
>If the tools are so powerful NOW they are going to be fricking overpowered in 10 years
Maybe, but do you have any proof (Sci fi and intuition don't count) for that?
I have thought about it more than you. The difference is that I have 20 years of watching dysfunctional corporate practices and general human folly and know that if business people have this much trouble getting what they want from talented programmers they have no chance with AI no matter how good it might be.
Because they're not "so powerful now". Anyone who's used it learned that they're no more useful than cleverbot would be for the same task. Legitimate information retrieval systems from the 80's, all abandonned now, are infinitely more powerful than chatgpt for this task (as in, actually pulls up more correct code more often), yet still they were abandoned because that wasn't good enough. Now chatgpt is even worse because not only is it less proficient than those systems, it's also confident in its wrongness, whereas those systems had actual productivity-focused features like variant exploration and reparameterization, and didn't use a fully natural language interface (which is exclusively a gimmick designed to bedazzle morons like you, not to make it usable).
The first part is: nobody's saying in 1000 years it won't happen, just that it will require several breakthroughs and it will, 99.9%, not happen within 10 years, or even 20.
The second part is: when it does happen, it is extremely unlikely it will go from the current state to actually able to generate full, complex programs overnight. Thus, it won't replace programmers, it will only enhance programmers. Yes, it means there will be a sudden drop on programmer demand and a commensurate decimation of wages. But mech engs survive just fine on their own remuneration.
>Why are programmers charging so much in the age of chatgpt and copilot?
Neither of those allow non programmers to code anything.
>Why can't people think about what the next 10 years will look like for AI?
They can, they're just not smooth brained like you. They realize that technology advancement is S curved and these LLMs are already reaching their plateau.
>why do truck drivers exist in the age of autonomous driving?
autonomous driving is a joke, it'll only drive for a little a few blocks and might crash. I've never seen prices these high. It used to be like $15-$25 for that sort of thing. $50 at the most.That dude is charging $150 for bug fixes when you can copy paste errors into chatgpt and then copy paste the code and chatgpt will shit out the fixed code.
Cognitive dissonance status: over 9000
because your fricking chudGPT isn't cutting it, don't you morons have a general?
These are insanely low prices
Not really that's the lowest price they have for stuff they have saved on their computer they can make a few edits on. For more custom stuff it goes 2x-4x that.
>That is still insanely low
No not really specially specially now
If you work at that rate even if just recycling your own code I feel sorry for you truly, your life must be hell.
What site is this?
upwork
Thanks
updog
The IT market is loony
I've seen a senior dev position for 40k
One 5k for showing someone an excel function
Even worst, most poojeets charge more the less gigs they get, to compensate for the loss, that may be the reason
chatgpt and copilot aren't reliable yet, shit they generate needs bugfixing if not complete rewrite, while saving some time it still requires full expertise and that's what you're paying for