Why are programmers charging so much in the age of chatgpt and copilot? I might try posting gigs on upwork actually.

Why are programmers charging so much in the age of ChatGPT and copilot?
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  1. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    same reason housewives fall for obvious pyramid schemes
    same reason FX trading courses charge $1000 but promise 100% pm returns
    same reason code camps exist
    "take this course and land a 300K programmer job guaranteed"

    stupid people are easy to trick with greed

  2. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because they can. It's a market, stupid.

  3. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >age of chatgpt and copilot?
    Neither of these will replace programmers.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      they already do a better job than anurag and the other sirs in this image

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        They literally can't even replace the dumbest pajeet the world has ever seen.
        Stop being tech illiterate.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        and who will ask chatgpt to open source code of a project, to find a spot where problem are, apply specific fix or logic change, do the testing, building, deploying?
        sure, your typical boss have no other tasks other than sit and ask chatgpt all day
        you still need a monkey that would do the asking

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I hate this fricking argument so much. Why can't people think about what the next 10 years will look like for AI? Think about the fricking future. If the tools are so powerful NOW they are going to be fricking overpowered in 10 years

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >If the tools are so powerful NOW they are going to be fricking overpowered in 10 years
        Maybe, but do you have any proof (Sci fi and intuition don't count) for that?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        I have thought about it more than you. The difference is that I have 20 years of watching dysfunctional corporate practices and general human folly and know that if business people have this much trouble getting what they want from talented programmers they have no chance with AI no matter how good it might be.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Because they're not "so powerful now". Anyone who's used it learned that they're no more useful than cleverbot would be for the same task. Legitimate information retrieval systems from the 80's, all abandonned now, are infinitely more powerful than chatgpt for this task (as in, actually pulls up more correct code more often), yet still they were abandoned because that wasn't good enough. Now chatgpt is even worse because not only is it less proficient than those systems, it's also confident in its wrongness, whereas those systems had actual productivity-focused features like variant exploration and reparameterization, and didn't use a fully natural language interface (which is exclusively a gimmick designed to bedazzle morons like you, not to make it usable).
        The first part is: nobody's saying in 1000 years it won't happen, just that it will require several breakthroughs and it will, 99.9%, not happen within 10 years, or even 20.
        The second part is: when it does happen, it is extremely unlikely it will go from the current state to actually able to generate full, complex programs overnight. Thus, it won't replace programmers, it will only enhance programmers. Yes, it means there will be a sudden drop on programmer demand and a commensurate decimation of wages. But mech engs survive just fine on their own remuneration.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Why are programmers charging so much in the age of chatgpt and copilot?
        Neither of those allow non programmers to code anything.

        >Why can't people think about what the next 10 years will look like for AI?
        They can, they're just not smooth brained like you. They realize that technology advancement is S curved and these LLMs are already reaching their plateau.

  4. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >why do truck drivers exist in the age of autonomous driving?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      autonomous driving is a joke, it'll only drive for a little a few blocks and might crash. I've never seen prices these high. It used to be like $15-$25 for that sort of thing. $50 at the most.That dude is charging $150 for bug fixes when you can copy paste errors into chatgpt and then copy paste the code and chatgpt will shit out the fixed code.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Cognitive dissonance status: over 9000

  5. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    because your fricking chudGPT isn't cutting it, don't you morons have a general?

  6. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    These are insanely low prices

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Not really that's the lowest price they have for stuff they have saved on their computer they can make a few edits on. For more custom stuff it goes 2x-4x that.
      >That is still insanely low
      No not really specially specially now

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        If you work at that rate even if just recycling your own code I feel sorry for you truly, your life must be hell.

  7. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    What site is this?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      upwork

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Thanks

        updog

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      updog

  8. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    The IT market is loony
    I've seen a senior dev position for 40k
    One 5k for showing someone an excel function

  9. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Even worst, most poojeets charge more the less gigs they get, to compensate for the loss, that may be the reason

  10. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    chatgpt and copilot aren't reliable yet, shit they generate needs bugfixing if not complete rewrite, while saving some time it still requires full expertise and that's what you're paying for

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