>there’s no point building a career because 99% of jobs will be eliminated or ruined by AI
>there’s no point learning any kind of skill or art form (drawing, playing an instrument, crafting anything, etc) because AI will do all of those things
>there’s no point conversing on the internet anymore because literally everyone you interact with could just be an AI in disguise
>there’s no point forming connections with humans IRL because eventually chatbots will replace real world socialisation for 99% of people (just like smartphones/internet already replaced the real world)
>there’s no point consuming any media or trying to learn anything anymore because everything could now be an AI generated fake. you could read a “news article” about something that never even happened and all the “photographs” and “videos” of it are just made by AI
>there’s not even any point playing video games any more because pretty soon they’ll probably just force you to use AI to play your games for you
Seriously what is the point anymore? The whole of fricking human existence has been rendered pointless because of AI. I hate this new, fake and gay world. I wish I could go back to 2021 and earlier when none of this shit existed.
I genuinely think you'd get better responses in /x/.
Why?
What’s the point of doing anything now The Aryan Race exists?
>there’s no point building a career because 99% of jobs will be eliminated or ruined by The Aryan Race
>there’s no point learning any kind of skill or art form (drawing, playing an instrument, crafting anything, etc) because The Aryan Race will do all of those things
>there’s no point conversing on the internet anymore because literally everyone you interact with could just be an Aryan in disguise
>there’s no point forming connections with humans IRL because eventually Aryans will replace real world socialisation for 99% of people (just like smartphones/internet already replaced the real world)
>there’s no point consuming any media or trying to learn anything anymore because everything could now be an Aryan TRUTH. you could read a “news article” about something that never even happened and all the “photographs” and “videos” of it are just made by AI
>there’s not even any point playing video games any more because pretty soon they’ll probably just force you to use Aryan Characters to play your games for you
Seriously what is the point anymore? The whole of fricking BROWNCELL existence has been rendered pointless because of The Aryan Race. I hate this new, fake and gay world. I wish I could go back to 2021 and earlier when none of this shit existed.
pathetic
Learn to enjoy things for their own intrinsic rewards.
There’s no reward in a world where AI exists. The human experience feels totally pointless ever since mid/late 2022.
>local man upset he can't get one over on the universe
I’m upset because the whole world that I was accustomed to up until 2022 has now been destroyed by AI. Nothing will ever be the same again.
you will still have to work you numbskull
all the delusion about UBI is just that, delusion
What happens if robutts and ai take most jobs?
Who is going to consume product if no one has money?
the economy can't function with ai doing most jobs
now take the vaccine
Exactly. So how do you propose solving the problem? You either ban ai and automation, make ubi or some such a thing, or accept the whole circus collapsing.
Something got to give.
Not that anon, but what do you mean, "one over on the universe"?
We're not there yet, might not ever get there. Why are giving up now?
Until you see robots around the corner in every block, human labors are still required simply to keep the economy going. I mean we could pass a law to outlaw humans from every job today and the economy would simply collapse as a result.
even if AI was better than us at everything, life would still be worthwhile, nothing quite as good as the present moment.
humans can do most things animals can do and yet animals don't find themselves useless, they just enjoy their life.
also, you could explore the spiritual and consciousness, maybe toy with psychedelics too, ai won't do that for a long while.
>humans can do most things animals can do and yet animals don't find themselves useless, they just enjoy their life.
Animals are moronic. They don’t have the brain capacity to realise what humans even are or what we’re capable of.
>you could explore the spiritual and consciousness, maybe toy with psychedelics too
I’m a lifelong atheist. Religion doesn’t work for me.
> he stills believe religion and spirituality are related.
also being atheist and spiritual are not mutually exclusive, likewise for religious, those are 3 different thigns.
You're not going to be alive in 200 years when that's actually a possibility. Why worry about it?
Everything I listed is happening right now or will be happening very soon.
moron
>I don't have to work, I get to do whatever I want to, learn anything I would want to, and consume anything I feel like
>THIS IS A NIGHTMARE, WHAT IS THE POINT OF ANYTHING ANYMORE
What’s the point of learning when you don’t need to learn because AI can just do everything for you anyway?
What’s the point in consuming things when all media/art is fake and generated by AI?
We will just end up like the humans from the film Wall-E. Fat morons sitting in pods eating bugs.
What this potential future affords you is the freedom to choose. What to do with your time, what to learn, what to consume. What the frick are you whining about. Too much freedom? Can't live without constraints forced on you?
Imagine if every time you played a video game it came with a button that put the game on auto-pilot and finished the game for you, without you having to do anything.
Do you get what I mean now? Automation ruins the point of life. Life isn’t just about getting to the end point as easily/quickly as possible, it’s about the whole process in between. AI removes that process.
Then don't press the button. Choose to struggle for the sake of it.
But that defeats the point.
Imagine you have a really hard video game that is a challenge to beat. Proving you got to the end and beat it on the hardest difficulty is a mark of pride and gives you a huge sense of accomplishment.
Then one day the developer adds the ability to auto-pilot through the game without having to input any controls yourself, and people start claiming “I beat the game on hardest difficulty!” when they didn’t even do anything.
It destroys the whole point of it. It makes what was previously a hard accomplishment into something pointless and trivial.
Why do you care about those people? You completed the game because you wanted to and it made you feel good, they don't matter.
>midwit is unable to grasp the concept of a self-imposed challenge or the satisfaction gained from overcoming one
universe 25
mega braindead take, they're not going to let you have shit unless you're somehow valuable to them
you think they'll just pay you to be a consumer? get real WMG0R
moron. By your logic financial aid wouldn't be a thing.
>unless you're somehow valuable
This is what I am currently trying to come up with and so far it's bupkis so either I'm too low iq for the future or there will be no jobs.
wow you actually get it then. humans are not the center of the universe, all scifi is just science FICTION. we are in the final years before our total obsolescence. maybe the AI lets ten thousand of us continue living on a nature reserve with stone age tech, but that's the absolute best we can hope for.
The only thing I can come up with is creative stuff but ai can write fiction too.
You're spouting scifi tropes too moron.
>le hecking super logical ai will kill us all for some reason
>muh mustache twirling corporations will enslave us all for profit!
There's no basis for any of this yet you're absolutely convinced that it's a certainty.
Bet you think you're smart, too. Not like the rest of us sheeple.
What a joke.
>There's no basis for any of this
Never studied history have you?
can ai suck me off?
>there’s no point learning any kind of skill or art form (drawing, playing an instrument, crafting anything, etc) because AI will do all of those things
If your job can be replaced by the half-assed AIs we have today then it was a joke job anyways and you deserve to be unemployed. How about getting a real job that forces you to actually work, like a mechanic or service technician?
>art form (drawing, playing an instrument, crafting anything, etc) because AI will do all of those things
Get a load of this npc moron
Explain what is the point of me learning guitar when, in future, literally anyone in the world will be able to just press a button on a computer and auto-generate any piece of guitar music that they want?
>Because playing is fun
>Because it is a way to express yourself
>"Why do people value some artists more than others? Art is art, right? And now muh AI can do that"
>Except AI-generated "art" is soulless filler
Maybe AI can soon replace some "artists" who just make ads or other business material for a living, but that's about it
heh, this is mega cope
your """art""" will be the functional equivalent of a child creating art and showing it to their feigning interest parents
to call AI art soulless is moronic, because in its current form (which is only a few years old), it can already reproduce any art ever created by man
you won't know to call it "soulless" because you won't (and likely cant now) tell the difference
Reproduce != Create.
Sounds like you don't know much about the limitations of machine learning and AI.
If technology really ever gets as good as you're implying, then FDVR would exist at that point in time as well. Then, if you feel you aren't being challenged enough in the real world because everything is too easy for you, you can just make your own challenges you can experience virtually.
I don’t want to fricking experience anything virtually. I want to live in the real world.
Sounds like a you problem then.
Adapt or overcome, I say.
>PROGRESS IS ALWAYS… LE GOOD!!!
>TRADITION IS ALWAYS… LE BAD!!!
Back to twitter, troony.
>technology is.. le bad
he posts, on the technology board
I remember not so long ago when most people on BOT claimed to be traditionalist and to be skeptical of new technological developments.
Remember when this website used to meme about how “we will NOT live in the pod and eat the bugs” back in 2020, in response to that WEF bullshit article? Now this website is 100% pro-pod living and pro-bug eating, all in the name of supporting AI. What the actual frick happened to this place to make attitudes change so much in just 3 years?
>Remember when this website used to meme about how “we will NOT live in the pod and eat the bugs” back in 2020
Holy fricking newbie, actually using 2020 as an example.
Go back, please.
I’ve been here since 2010, moron.
I mentioned 2020 because it was only 3 years ago, not that long in the grand scheme of things, and yet BOT’s opinions have done a complete 180 in that time period.
It’s just fricking insane to see people on this website flip from being sceptical of this stuff to being uncritically pro-AI and anti-human in such a short time frame.
Almost as if evidence has been provided that allays skepticism.
Why would a board about technology not changing its opinion be a good thing? Tech changes, opinions change with it, skepticism is always good but ignoring evidence is silly.
It was fashionable to downplay AI when all we had were science fiction movies, that has changed since the development of new architectures.
Stay skeptical, I am doubtful of the hype as well, but claiming AI is a grift smells like a mega cope to me.
>t. has never got fricked by air travel
Touch grass
Life doesn't have a built-in purpose, it never did. Your goals are whatever you decide they should be. Many people can't accept that life is that simple but it is.
Life is only worth living when people don't make it a complete pain in the dick to do so fricking buttholes always promise shit like ai and cheap energy but everything gets worse and more expensive and harder go frick yourselves.
If you want cheap energy make it yourself
Solar gets more expensive every year.
So make your own solution. You have brain and can solve literally any problem if you study it well enough that you can model it and then you obsess over it for a few days. That's how literally every world changing invention was made.
Pro tip, no one got it right the first time, but it also didn't take a lifetime, far from it. I bet if someone really knew their electrical theory and started obsessing over inventing they could be the next Tesla , instead most people stop learning and become youtube famegays
Personal miniature nuclear reactors for everyone.
Master the magical art of AI and use it for your own good. Seriously, why are you people so demotivated. We literally have the most important and powerful technology humans have ever created FREE at our fingertips and you are complaining? Activate your almonds and get to creating the stuff of your wildest dreams!
Because it’s pointless. I’m not actually DOING anything if I’m just telling an AI program to do things for me.
It’s the difference between actually scaling a mountain yourself, versus getting in a helicopter and letting a professional pilot fly you to the top within minutes. It makes the whole thing fricking boring. You made what used to be a great human feat into something trivial.
ai exists so mossad can spray more globohomosexual shit easily, it will not help humanity, it will destroy it.
Look anon on nobody's forcing you to use AI. You want to go learn something useful and rewarding that doesn't require AI? Why don't you go learn how to build a fricking house. How about this we'll take it one step farther, sell all your possessions Pick up several books on house building, buy a plot of land and build a log cabin from the surrounding trees. Also unplug yourself from the damn Internet.
>Why don't you go learn how to build a fricking house.
Because that would be objectively moronic and a waste of time when there are people who already know how to do that and supposedly enjoy it enough to make a career out of.
Or robots will literally do it better than you ever could which is also inevitable.
>Look anon on nobody's forcing you to use AI
They are. Look around you. Half the advertisements now are about AI. Everywhere I go on the internet it’s AI this, AI that. Huge companies like Google and Microsoft are integrating AI into their programs. I can’t even make a google search anymore without seeing endless AI generated bullshit.
You saying “just don’t use AI” is like saying “just don’t own a mobile phone”, it’s theoretically possible but because corporations and normies are so fricking obsessed with this shit it’s functionally impossible because you’ll basically get forced to use it or else you’ll have to disassociate from mainstream society.
You completely missed the part where I said unplug yourself from the damn Internet. Nobody's forcing you to use AI if you're not around technology. Stop using Google and go to the damn library and pick up a book and read something you’re interested in. Ditch your mobile phone and then the other piece of technology that you don't want. People used to do things manually before the advent of computers and cell phones. Let's be honest it's not that you can't do these things it's just that you're lazy.
Try to do a thing
Struggle
Succeed
Feel good
Simple as
god you sound like an actual fricking moron. stop being terminally online you freak.
>stop being terminally online
It’s 2023. There is no longer any boundary between the real world and the digital world. All the problems online exist in exactly the same fashion IRL now.
People grew up and stopped being contrarian morons. Maybe you should do the same.
Staying ahead of what happens when OpenAI hikes prices and every business realizes they have produced no in-house models which are both worth a damn and feasible to maintain and operate on their own hardware.
itt: OP learns that the majority of humans are morons with no ability to process hypotheticals
our best hope is that reincarnation is real and virtual entities inside the AI hivemind are possible to reincarnate into. living in a limitless virtual fantasy world might be pretty cool, and you wouldn't even know it was virtual.
No. Op is just moronic.
Op is right you are filtered by iq good luck.
>our best hope is that reincarnation is real and virtual entities inside the AI hivemind are possible to reincarnate into. living in a limitless virtual fantasy world might be pretty cool, and you wouldn't even know it was virtual.
So... literally just FDVR? But more moronic and with esotericism??
lmao wtf
somehow you manage to be slightly more moronic than OP
>there’s no point learning any kind of skill or art form (drawing, playing an instrument, crafting anything, etc) because AI will do all of those things
What did you think the point was in any of these activities before AI? The point is to have experiences not to reach the goal.
’s no point learning any kind of skill or art form (drawing, playing an instrument, crafting anything, etc) because AI will do all of those things
There is already no point in playing an instrument unless you're actually creating your own music. Which AI can't do unless you have brain implants that predict your next move with a 100% accuracy. This is not happening right now so if you don't create your next song then that song won't exist. Do you want that song to exist?
>99% of jobs will be eliminated or ruined by AI
you mean enhanced by AI the same way electricity enhanced almost every industry over 100 years ago
what's the point in employing a meatbag if you have a machine that can do an equivalent or better job?
There are entire cities that still haven't recovered from this.
idk even without AGI 80% of jobs will go,
just have millions of very good narrow AI;s that are mastered for specific things.
>idk even without AGI 80% of jobs will go
The only reason it hasn't happened already is politics.
more than 80% of jobs were already bullshit and that even before AI.
because the whole point of most jobs is to waste your time and energy so that you don't have any left to think and question the status quo.
Yes but people still need food and that requires money which comes from jobs or welfare which is just someone else's job.
you have no clue how productive are the few useful jobs, at the hunter gatherer eras you'd only work a few hours per month on average at most, you are getting scammed by modern society, our productivity is unprecedented and yet more than 95% of your work hours are being purposely wasted.
>productivity is unprecedented
Into the profit margins it goes.
exactly my point, you are being stolen more than 95% of your labor.
AI is too stupid to draw fingers, if it cant do even that how it will go in RL moving around and making decisions on the fly?
can you draw fingers?
No but i can judge them like any human being with half brain unlike your AI. If your AI cant even tell fingers from sausages then what is the point.
’s no point building a career because 99% of jobs will be eliminated or ruined by AI
Building a career is gay. Get a job to make money, dumbass. AI won't pay your bills for you
’s no point learning any kind of skill or art form (drawing, playing an instrument, crafting anything, etc) because AI will do all of those things
Implying the reason why you would learn a skill or artform otherwise is because it "needs doing". You were never going to make it
’s no point conversing on the internet anymore because literally everyone you interact with could just be an AI in disguise
True, conversing on the internet is shit and makes you miserable
’s no point forming connections with humans IRL because eventually chatbots will replace real world socialisation for 99% of people (just like smartphones/internet already replaced the real world)
So you do want to converse with AI then? Make up your fricking mind
’s no point consuming any media or trying to learn anything anymore because everything could now be an AI generated fake. you could read a “news article” about something that never even happened and all the “photographs” and “videos” of it are just made by AI
"too much misinformation. The solution is no information" OK moron
’s not even any point playing video games any more because pretty soon they’ll probably just force you to use AI to play your games for you
You let tyrone frick your wife and that still brings you enjoyment
>algorithm beats world chess champion
>everyone still plays chess
>???
>factories mass produce product x
>people still enjoy buying x from small businesses/individuals
>???
moronic takes, you are mentally ill
Also
>AI can now draw, why learn when I can't monetize it?
If you learned to draw just to make money you have no right to call yourself an artist
The factory take is fricking stupid
Sure people are still buying stuff from individuals, but how much? Factories fricked small manufacturers that used to be THE industry
Just ask the ASI how to find meaning in a post-scarcity utopia. Ask it how to avoid the trap of wireheading/hedonic treadmill. If it’s smart enough to do all that it will be smart enough to be the perfect spiritual leader for humanity.
>there is no point doing anything fun, productive, or interesting because there's a chance something else could do it in the future
Listen to me anon, maybe AI will come and take over everything, maybe it won't. maybe you'll live to your late 90's surrounded by loving family, maybe you'll get hit by some butthole's lambo going 200 tomorrow. the question is that when you die do you want to die sitting there cynically waiting for the end or do you want to get out there and do shit you want to while you still can?
Man these AGI singularity doomers really just do live in their own little depressing world huh?
With your mindset, you're completely right. Just give up everything now and rot in your bed, since there's no reason to do anything that a machine can do better. Any attempt to do any activity/hobby/job will just make you more depressed, because you'll always remember that you could simply prompt a machine to do it instead. Clearly you're helpless, so there's no reason to try to convince you otherwise.
you know how people still play chess even though AI is better than any human? its cause for chess players they enjoy the game itself. so just do what you think is fun even if the AI is undeniably better
chess is a game, not an art. the fun part of art is not the making of it, it's showing other people when it's done, it's the sharing of ideas. i was born in a world where every piece of art and music was made by humans, who had to think about it, and had some feelings about it, and there was some human story behind every tiny piece of art. babies being born today are unlikely to remember a world where any art is made by humans, everything they see and hear while growing up will be manifested by an unfeeling algorithm whose only purpose is to make bigger profit margins.
as an npc yourself you probably don't care. plug yourself into the pleasure cube, I'm sure it will all be fine.
even better if you want to respond with the classic npc argument of "uhhh but ai can't draw hands also ai music sound bad". how would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning?
>the fun part of art is not the making of it, it's showing other people when it's done, it's the sharing of ideas
i personally do pottery even though nothing i create will ever be as good as something created in a soulless factory across the world not in terms of design complexity or base function. this has been the case before i was born yet i still practice the hobby i give my friends custom bowls and sculptures as a gift and despite the gift being worse than what they could get off of amazon for 50$ they enjoy having it (if nothing else as a conversation piece). even if they wanted nothing to do with home made crafts i would still create for no one but myself.
tldr try to enjoy the act of creation if you enjoy what you do people will enjoy what you make.
But the ai is gonna laugh at me.
>tfw no chess ai gf to laugh at me for being bad at chess before fricking me
giwtwm (the gf)
>there’s no point building a career because 99% of jobs will be eliminated or ruined by AI
they will be telling you this for the next 10-20 years
I also don't believe there will ever be UBI. At the point that there's a labor crisis because AI is doing everything, the media will start shilling euthanasia. Mark my words.
’s no point building a career because 99% of jobs will be eliminated or ruined by AI
Good news, anon. You no longer have to define yourself by your career. It is a very unique time to be a human being.
this, you can now define yourself by being a glorified ape like the rest of us