What are the consequences of the next generation of computer science grads only knowing how to ask ChatGPT for code?
What are the consequences of the next generation of computer science grads only knowing how to ask ChatGPT for code?
What are the consequences of the next generation of computer science grads only knowing how to ask ChatGPT for code?
The same as all of you asking stack overflow
Nah, at least with Stackoverflow you had to figure out how to change the answer to suit your usecase or know how to plug it into an existing structure. This resulted in some learning after enough trial and error.
Jippity is allowing people to complete advanced degrees at a level far below codemonkey.
ChatGPT is the same since half the time the answer is fricked up, especially if math is involved.
>going back
these were still a thing ~5 years ago when i did philosophy as an elective. Mind, they gave you the questions beforehand, so you could come up with your reasoning, arguments, etc, but you had to write it out in the exam.
>only knowing how to ask chatgpt for code
90% of cs grads don't know what they're doing in any era, and the other 10% didn't learn to code from a class. Ever wonder why a technical interview makes you prove you can code, know basic algorithms, even with your degree sitting right there?
The whole "chatgpt papers" thing is an issue with school in general, not new technology.
I knew plenty of kids and college students who would just write the same things they wrote for a previous paper. As long as a teacher can't find your whole thing on wikipedia no one fricking cares
My university used some external online service to check for plagiarism, thing is, since they offered the link it was easy to just check your papers ahead of time. Then it showed how severe the plagiarism was and in what sections tripped it so you could copy and paste from wikipedia so long as you changed the right passages a little until it gave you the green light.
Yeah running anything through a plagarism checker is also good. Most professors don't fricking care unless its a whole paragraph.
t. professor
>demanding students laboriously hand-write their ChatGPT generated homework
Sounds like school, it checks out.
As far as employment goes, you have provided answers to the task. If it's convincing, what is the problem? I suppose companies don't want legal issues. Imagine if someone Copyrighted all this generated content, though. The true problem returns.
Turnitin? It was always fun when you ended up plagiarizing yourself from a previous year.
>going back
my uni never left
That's just because they don't have electricity in your village
I am from south america, we also do this, how do first world countries do exams?
Our exams are brutal too, for math classes only like 1/4th of the class passes.
>only a quarter of the thirdies can pass their math exams
Shocking. In the US exams are usually in person, on paper at least when I was in school which was pre-covid. Now a lot of the time they're online and you can do them from home or even "online" but you come in and do them on the school computers in the exam room. Stupid but true. Papers however were 100% digital, I never did a single hand written paper all 4 years. Also I'm just fricking with you about being a moronic thirdie, the toughest math teacher I ever had was a dude who came from the university of mexico in mexico city. Savage aztec blood calculus, worse than the japs or anybody.
The shit they learn in 3rd world nations is much harder then the math we teach our kids. They do calculus in middle school now, but we can't because of "diversity" in our schools.
No they don't lol. I am a grad student in applied math at a top 10 in the USA. Average American born slacker math student is blowing thirdies out of the water. That is even with their third world work ethic and impulse to cheat at every little thing.
>"but Chang in my DE class was the smartest and got everything ri-"
Yeah he just memorized. I've seen chamg and Zhang get BTFO consistently when they get to late undergrad problems that require real thinking in abstract algebra, gallia theory and complex analysis. At the grad level there is no contest outside of PDE Chinese grindset clique. Its all US white mutts, Russians, Romanians, and of course israelites.dont even try to argue with me, anyone who has done real university level math knows this is true.
Idk, I'm a third worlder, a lot of my friends memorised everything. Many of them did their PhD in the US, now work at top companies. I wasn't so much into memorising because I enjoyed understanding things. I got my PhD and now I work at one of the biggest governmental labs in the world on very cutting edge stuff. Still academia though.
Point is get off your high horse and don't generalise, moron. It's morons like you that push humanity behind, which is not a very "white man" way I guess.
I'm not white, my dad is a US born Russian israelite and my mom is Japanese.
Can't speak for other countries, but here we only really start doing derivatives (and maybe integrals) at age 17 in high school. Then in college everyone gets a big shock because they have to actually study.
it used to be paper exams only until few years ago, then we had online exams until on one course 2/3 of the students were caught using AI to plagiarize the assignments and exam.
now, it's gone back to old ways.
>paper exams and handwritten essays
zoomers on suicide watch lmao
If the AI can do code better than the student, then what is the point of studying?
You may as well ask why we need carpenters when the cordless saw exists. Yes, tools exist and humans may use them to do things a little faster. Nobody ever insisted the world was ending when rocket scientists made use of calculators and primitive computers to reach the fricking moon. Maybe worry less about the whole coding part and more about what the produced code is working to accomplish.
this is a horrible idea:
1) Can't run automated plagiarism analysis on handwritten essays
2) Most people have shit handwriting at this point due to decades of typing everything being the standard.
3) I can ask a language model to generate my essay for me and just hand write a copy of what it says on paper. People who aren't stupid will just launder the output of the ai by asking it follow up questions to rephrase things, then copy it by hand to paper and add the sources etc.
The cat is out of the bag they need to focus on projects that can prove understanding instead of just "regurgitate sources about a topic into an essay".
>they need to focus on projects that can prove understanding instead of just "regurgitate sources about a topic into an essay".
Not the point of school, requires effort on the part of the professors, never going to happen. More likely they'll just say papers are obsolete and give you more "grind 200x problems" style homeworks from the mandatory always online paid DLC for the textbook instead. Which is probably more valuable than writing papers even still...
>thirdies do calculus in middle school
>in the US we can't do calculus in middle school because we have too many thirdies
Explain this.
>paper essays
Do these morons know you can just copy word for word the same shit that you were initially just gonna copy/paste with a few clicks? You are wasting peoples time who don't cheat because for every phase of an essay you grade I have to go back to rewrite the whole damn thing instead of just tweaking it on a word doc an re-submitting.
you write the essay in person in class. cant exactly pull out your phone or computer or get automatic F
This would honestly kill me because every single time I wrote a paper it was a massive fricking chore to stretch out the glue brain shit they wanted me to write about from the 3 sentences it takes to answer the question into the five fricking page minimum. It's just not possible to write a full length Paper like that from scratch for me. Suicide fuel.
>going back
What the frick were they doing before? Back when I was in school we couldn't even use calculators.
>attach pen to 3d printer
>teach it my handwriting through reinforcement learning
>write up a latex document of what to include
>it translates it into handwritten text and diagrams
nuttin personnel
Probably better results than 75% of the shit produced now
We need to go back