Using ChatGPT to help analyze gamecode without game files

Problem: I play NFS Unbound on console and don’t have the ability to tamper with game files so I can’t see the mathematical formulas that is utilized to determine the class and class rating of a vehicle based on changing car parts.
The 2nd part of this problem is that when I build a car for a specific class, the stats look good… no great, but it performs like dogshit and I know that although it could be my building, I suspect its some funky math formulas and want to see what they are to better help me build.

Proposed Solution: currently in the process of gathering all possible data (picrel) to feed into ChatGPT and then request ChatGPT to utilize are mathematical knowledge it has to determine what the values of all parts individually and in combination produces.

I am posting this here in hopes of other players with similar issues and ideas for fixing it can give me any insight on HOW to feed this data and HOW to ask ChatGPT to operate upon the data I provide.
Any help will be appreciated, I hope this isn’t going to rub players wrong, I proposed the same in a discord for the game (not as indepth as this) and was met with bare trolls and automatic hostility being told “UsE tHe BeSt ToOl, ThE hUmAn NuErAl NeTwOrK, yOuR bRaIn” lol

Also to add to this,
I understand I'd have to do this for every car, so for now I am only focusing on my favorite car and have purchase 2mill in parts (all parts available)
wanted to add that so that you all are aware I understand the depth of work needed to make this a fully functioning chatgpt help agent, I may do that but again for now just focusing on the car I drive the most.

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Try in two years or pay some indian in Fiverr to datamine the game for you.
    What you're asking for can either be done with pure math, which you don't know, or with specialized tools for code inspection, which you don't have.
    So outsource to a mathgay now or wait 3 or 4 years for GPT to catch up, but you'll still have to give the AI all the data and I do mean ALL of it. Surfaces, vehicle stats, interactions, scores for performance (which you have to provide), etc.
    Best of luck, now delete your thread so something worthwhile can take its place.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Try in two years or pay some indian in Fiverr to datamine the game for you.
      No, I would like to do this myself, not wait years or pay someone.
      >What you're asking for can either be done with pure math, which you don't know, or with specialized tools for code inspection, which you don't have.
      ok
      >So outsource to a mathgay now or wait 3 or 4 years for GPT to catch up, but you'll still have to give the AI all the data and I do mean ALL of it. Surfaces, vehicle stats, interactions, scores for performance (which you have to provide), etc.
      ok

      Thanks for the bump but you didn't help not 1 bit. but I appreciate keeping my thread floating to the top.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't think Chat GPT will be any good, I'd rather plug this into some data modeling software like Statistical and rely on the AI assistant (like GPT) for a detailed analysis

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >and rely on the AI assistant (like GPT) for a detailed analysis
      Honest question - is that not what my OP explains chatGPT will be used for, Detailed Analysis? (not being rude, I'm sincerely asking because I figured that was clear in my OP)

      use the best tool, the human neural network, your brain

      lol true

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >is that not what my OP explains chatGPT will be used for, Detailed Analysis?
        not really, the actual analysis would be than by the data modeling program, you could use GPT to e.x. suggest what parameters to use in distribution analysis, or help you identify coupled variables

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I should have said
      >interpretation
      or
      >refining
      here
      instead of
      >detailed analysis

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        no problem anon.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    use the best tool, the human neural network, your brain

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Proposed Solution: currently in the process of gathering all possible data (picrel) to feed into ChatGPT and then request ChatGPT to utilize are mathematical knowledge it has to determine what the values of all parts individually and in combination produces.
    Not at this level yet although I wish it was. You're wasting your time working towards that. Think of Chat GPT as super google + a personal tutor. If you're clever with you're proompting, you could get it to handhold you through the process of doing some statistical analysis on the data you gather. Open a few chats and start workshopping/brainstorming ideas with it on how to map out the physical model the cars are using in the game. Good luck OP.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      thank you for the good luck

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Do you have ANY reason to believe the console code is different from on pc?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      this OP. if you can into RE it's way more fun than the stuff you're doing btw.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        not looking for "fun", looking for information. but I appreciate the suggestion.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      No, not in the sense it would impact numbers for the cars rating and class.
      I don't own a pc version of the title or the capabilities with my current pc to datamine anything which is why I am seeking the aid of something like ChatGPT with it's capabilities to crunch numbers better than any human.
      but no, I don't think the code is different in a significant way between console and pc

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Well it makes more sense to me to try using scripts with mods to test drive car configs automatically, no?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          no, that doesn't make sense to me for several reasons but I am not trying to get defensive or aggressive but its a bit, a lot, frustrating to keep hearing suggestions on what I should do besides ChatGPT and I didn't ask for suggestions outside of ChatGPT, so no Anon, it doesn't make more sense to me because;
          1. I can't datamine
          2. I am on console so running scripts isn't easily possible and I won't run Cronus Zen for fear I'll be banned.
          3. I asked SPECIFICALLY about a SPECIFIC piece of technology, not this other stuff you all are suggesting.
          (not being rub just its really a pointless suggestion as I said in my OP I'm using ChatGPT and didn't inquire about any other form of tech or techniques.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Anon, I understand your frustration but you can't be surprised people recommend you a more fitting solution than what you are trying to do. It's like getting mad at people recommending you a hammer to fix a loose nail instead of ways to use a saw for it, you are using a tool for a purpose it really wasn't designed for or at least it's not there yet.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    you can't

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Already done:

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Car to provide a link?

      Anon, I understand your frustration but you can't be surprised people recommend you a more fitting solution than what you are trying to do. It's like getting mad at people recommending you a hammer to fix a loose nail instead of ways to use a saw for it, you are using a tool for a purpose it really wasn't designed for or at least it's not there yet.

      I don't think you fully understand my frustrations, you may sympathize with them but you don't understand how that feels to ask for specifics but get told about everything except what was specifically requested.
      It's not a "more fitting" solution because I have made it up in my mind to use ChatGPT, so to call... I'm just going to agree with you to calm myself down.
      I don't think you mean any harm but you don't understand the levels of frustration that (being told not do something only because the individual telling me has a liking towards other tech, and being told about everything except what was asked about) brings and causes.
      Thanks for the attempt to assist me though.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        No. You have made your mind up to something you do not understand. It's impossible to make up your mind.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          It’s really a task for me to be respectful when online chatting because now society does this super irritating thing where if Person A rejects the suggestion and advice by Person B, Person B then says something inflammatory as if to toss a grenade behind their back as they exit the room after initiating a verbal fight, lol.
          You may not read this but frick it, I can use this reply to transmute this anger building up;

          I wasn’t disrespectful to you all (not in any intentional manner but it seems you and other anons feel disrespected by my rejection of your suggestions) I was clear as possible as to What problem I had, what solution I’d come to and the additional legwork I know I have to do to ‘train’ the AI Agent. But for some odd reason, reply after reply completely neglected my request for assistance on how to train the agent and instead gave me every other suggestion under the sun. One anon even repeated the same suggestion after I explained I wasn’t capable of datamining lol, even provided examples in picrel.
          In a weird way I should thank you, because even though this is “just the internet”, these types of interactions teaches me about the way real world society is moving….
          Have a nice night anon and although I am still ruffled a bit and I still completely reject Your suggestions and the other anons who kept suggesting things not asked about - I am sincere in saying my intentions wasn’t to argue, anger or disrespect anyone. I wont apologize because I know my intents and reviewing my replies, I wasn’t disrespecting so if you or others feel wronged by me and my steadfastness on my goal that wasn’t my goal.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Didn't read. All I did was observe the fact that you are unwilling to change your made up mind despite new insights having been given to you proving that you should not have made up your initial mind. You can be offended at the truth, but facts don't care for your feelings.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I figured "didn't read" would be the response, it's no issue.
              again, no hard feelings on my end. have a nice night anon (not being funny)

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You're the one that brought up feelings instead of addressing the argument

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Good idea on data collection, bad idea expecting ChatGPT to be capable of any kind of mathematical reasoning.

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