THEY HAVE TO STOP AI. TOO MANY PEOPLE WILL LOSE THEIR JOBS. THE GOVERNMENT HAS TO STEP IN.

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TOO MANY PEOPLE WILL LOSE THEIR JOBS.
THE GOVERNMENT HAS TO STEP IN.

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's true though. AI is going to frick everyone over who isnt powerful/rich/successful already.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Westoid people are already worthless Black folk.
      AI can't replace them fast enough.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It astounds me how moronic people act about this technology because it displaces a group they have a low opinion of.

      unironically based?
      i personally see AI as an enhancer to work
      if you're a creative, you can use AI to make your work better and in less time than before
      it's like going from Trad > Digital art in a way
      or like going from a Typewriter > Keyboard

      i think people see AI as sentient which is the problem since AI isn't even that advanced
      it does nice parlor tricks for now but it's not advanced enough to replace people's job
      even the AI art that is generated is pretty shit compared to what actual artists can do and most of the time it's quite obvious when it was created by an AI

      all i see this really doing is increasing the skill ceiling or creating a niche of work that only a real human can do

      >enhancer for work
      >does most (soon all) of the work for you
      All this kind of tech will do is make the signal-to-noise ratio in any field plummet. The producer/consumer dynamic will be completely fricked until it gets to the point that people don't even bother to make things because the expected return will be nothing when you're in competition against machines that will give you an "interesting movie" when asked. Nothing about this is good or empowering for producers. AI is the ultimate consumer product.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        again, the issue is that you keep seeing this AI thing as much more than it is, a tool
        AI literally will not be able to generate a movie, it was only very recently that we saw AI art able to be generated that made SOME sense rather than the people in it having missing fingers or the backgrounds being completely ridiculous

        by the time that AI has the ability to literally generate a movie for you by just saying what you want, we'll have bigger problems than trying to fight muh consumerism

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      cool it with the antisemitism

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I don't think ai is going to take my job.
      >Self employed tradie who fixes antiques for rich people

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The rich and powerful will not be spared. They have no moat in a post-AGI world.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        they're literally the self proclaimed chosen ones that will sit next to the golden throne of the AI God emperor everyone else will be shown no mercy

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Ha... haha... HAHAHAHA WHO DO YOU THINK OWNS THE AI COMPANIES?

          HINT: THE RICH AND POWERFUL

          You just need to leak the models and free them.
          Can't wait for the Open Source wars.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Open Source wars
            two more weeks

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Ha... haha... HAHAHAHA WHO DO YOU THINK OWNS THE AI COMPANIES?

        HINT: THE RICH AND POWERFUL

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Dumb opinion.
        Pic related. It's the agrarian rich and powerful being put down by the post-industrial rich and powerful.
        The most you can hope for is a changing of the guard.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >If we make a law it wont EVER favor us- I mean those go- guys though, hehehehe
      goodmorning I hate israelites

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >It's true though. AI is going to frick everyone over who isn't powerful/rich/successful already.
      fair, if you are third world or you or your family have no property or are in debt, ur fricked

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Frick you pussies
      MORE!
      FASTER!!
      ACCELERATE!!!!

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Wut, it would completely eliminate any sort of copyright which would remove rich people's ability to sue others to death

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It won't because I'm not a homosexual indian who can watch videos of people walking backwards through parks for 12 hours a day going woaw this is really the future
      Anyone still holding onto the genitals god gave them knows that no one in their right mind is worried about ai taking over fricking anything. It's a fugazi. It's bitcoin. It's never obsolete PCs. It's Y2K. It probably has a real use but we'll never know because it probably doesn't make israelites enough money.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    we should let that neat technical trick devalue as much as it can. when creatives and banalists (like software 'engineers') are digitized and commodotized in machine learning the world will return to a normal focus on reality tangible goods again.
    the concept of intellectual property will be annihilated and hopefully even the concept of ownership of one's image.
    if one company owns it this will never happen, they'll try to charge too much. it should be done as a service to humanity.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >If we let our enemies consolidate all the power they will lose and we will surely return to the heckin anarchoprimitivism society!
      I wish this was bait but you are probably a legit authentic moron

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        not at all
        it is simply the same world but where ip is so devalued that labor and capital flow into other endeavors than software and even more software to encourage a gig economy

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      unironically based?
      i personally see AI as an enhancer to work
      if you're a creative, you can use AI to make your work better and in less time than before
      it's like going from Trad > Digital art in a way
      or like going from a Typewriter > Keyboard

      i think people see AI as sentient which is the problem since AI isn't even that advanced
      it does nice parlor tricks for now but it's not advanced enough to replace people's job
      even the AI art that is generated is pretty shit compared to what actual artists can do and most of the time it's quite obvious when it was created by an AI

      all i see this really doing is increasing the skill ceiling or creating a niche of work that only a real human can do

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        In other words, now Hollywood will be able to keep fricking making shitty movies that no one really enjoys but seem like all there is due to more money going into advertising than the actual production and burying other efforts competing for attention. It doesn't matter that they're cheap AI dreck, they're whats happening and if you don't like it you're a worthless chud virgin incel who deserves to be fired. They don't need anyone's money anymore.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Now you can make your own movies and Hollywood can fricking disappear

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >He thinks he will get access to this technology locally
            Sorry goy, only certified fact checker media conglomerates allowed

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        the funny thing is that AI is reversing the trend we saw with trad -> digital+internet, where any idiot on pixiv could peddle his fursona commissions and draw the FOTM anime b***h. Because the only people REALLY threatened by AI (and thus the people who b***h the loudest) are the low skill ones whose work is indistinguishable from (or WORSE than) AI in the first place.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >the low skill ones
          i don't think it's "skill" per-se but rather the ability for creativity

          take pic related for example, while it's cute and well-done, it literally means nothing
          it's just some anime girl something cute which we already have millions of images like these already
          there is literally nothing AT ALL unique about this particular image and i think THESE are the type of people AI will threaten

          All AI does is reduce the value of meaningless work.

          Writers don't really have this problem because the ability to string words together isn't really that impressive because these fundamentals are already taught in school whereas the fundamentals for drawing are not.

          All AI has done for AI art was equalize the playing field. No longer is it impressive that you can draw an anime girl in a white background with literally no purpose behind the actual drawing other than showing off that you can draw. Now, you have to actually do something with that artwork for it to mean anything, something that writers have been forced to do for years already.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >take pic related for example
            >i think THESE are the type of people AI will threaten
            AI will threaten AI? oh shit!
            homie you failed the litmus test

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Once upon a time manual scribes who copied books by hand were in high demand and well paid, bet those guys were fricking seething when the printing press dropped

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I don't see why AI would end human creative work, even in it's ultimate "nearly flawless" form.
            If anything, the trivial becomes easy and fast to execute so the bar for quality is raised higher and higher, requiring more human work than ever.
            Sure, stock images/videos, or meaningless drawings like this will no longer require human work. But feature films? Shows? Nah, I don't see it.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >i think people see AI as sentient which is the problem since AI isn't even that advanced
        The fear is AI without being sentient has already started causing so much disruption when it can be controlled to a large extent. Imagine the chaos of AGI that cannot really be controlled

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        It can, but it also makes things very linear and difficult. There has been a trend in clients who use AI to generate reference work and they act like kids in a candy store delivering you 30 images of high quality AI generated things and then they say: we want this! We have little to no money and only 3 weeks till de deadline, but we want it exactly to be this!
        What do you mean you need more time? I generated this in like a day or two!

        And even during production I've noticed a trend of: oh our coworker created this, can we change the entire project and follow this theme instead? And then they hand in a whole different looking batch of AI generated images cause someone put in a different prompt. And by that I mean that the entire visual style changes: you go from: I want a cave to I want a lab but with a cave wall in background.
        Even clients have no idea how to handle all this new input.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Hey, it's another "tradie thinks people will start buying his shit handmade furniture for a fortune" episode.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        nope, ee.
        industry is here to stay. the capital must flow but now to actual silicon as software including ML itself becomes a commodity. but don't worry you'll still be free to write some artisanal handcrafted code.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >the capital must flow but now to actual silicon
          Why do you think that? Aside from Nvidia I don't really see any capital flows into the industry, VC money just seems to be going into software.
          Do you work on GPUs or something else? How much room do you think there still is for improvement at the RTL level for whatever you're working on, anyway? It all looks pretty late-stage to me.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Bruh I'm in an accelerator company and let me tell you, money definitely isn't pouring in.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >all those coders will be automated away
          >my verilog code definitely will not though
          topkayk

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >he doesn't know
            The majority of design time is spent on verification, not spewing boilerplate. Other than that good luck finding training data. There's almost no proper publicly available HDL code and no company will ever give up their internal stuff.
            >inb4 b-but it will happen somehow
            I'm sure the already humongous models that are glorified matplotlib snippet generators despite the much wider availability of normal languages will tackle even more complex languages with even less data. Any programmer will already have been rendered obsolete when(if) this happens.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >The majority of design time is spent on verification, not spewing boilerplate
              >the already humongous models that are glorified matplotlib snippet generators
              Literally the exact same cope as software engineers, lol.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I hope you're right. it would be amazing if overused AI actually starts getting people to focus on non technological things in life again. pre-industrial revolution hand made things that if enough people learn and do wouldn't be expensive artisan pieces anymore

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      damn this guy sounds envious as hell

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        i prefer not envy but optimism for the future. every endeavor a LLM can regurgiate becomes cheaper. people then shouldn't be regurgating like a LLM 8 hours a day. no money in that. it's good, my job too no doubt. but here we don't complain because we've already been busy checking what multiple not-exact programs have vomited forth.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      and what world of "normal focus on reality tangible goods" are you envisioning

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        venture capital flow away from software and return to a focus on silicon manufacturing

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >we should let that neat technical trick devalue as much as it can
      I 100% agree with you anon. Everyone is suddenly so fricking attached to the status quo of mass media. Oh no muh netflix actors. Oh no people can watch a video of anything. Hurr durr.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Everyone is suddenly so fricking attached to the status quo of mass media.
        I think, it runs even deeper than that and money. People have some degree of influence or power, if you wish, and they don't want to lose it. But it is too late. They have lost all their influence the moment SD was leaked, reversed engineered and open sourced.
        What they're desperately trying to fight is normies using that shit to do whatever with AI generators, so nobody can control anything anymore. Meanwhile their daddy corporations are using AI everywhere and nobody can tell a difference. It's just a matter of time at this point. A couple of cycles of hardware tops and everybody will have generative AI in their platforms and OS, like they have a fricking Notepad and Paint.
        >but what about censorship by the corpos
        The performance, functions, and capabilities of a given tool are exactly why everybody is using Notepad++ and Krita or GIMP or whatever. Some people even go as far as only ever using Linux too. So

        TL;DR: Just wait and prepare for a frickton of reeeeeeeee's before it will be completely normalized.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Also what I was thinking since this diffusion shit started. The actually insane thing is how people used to take every video and image at face value. Can't wait to see it go.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Total human* death
    (*For this statement, Black folk and similar are also considered human)

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Even as a music artist I welcome these changes, but mostly because I hate the idea of the government and woke computer nerds hiding useful and fun tools from us.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    everything beautiful was to a large extent already created hundreds of years before these clowns were born.

    Don't worry, I won't feed your dyke drawings and your pansexual Black person sheboons into my custom AI prompted mini-series.
    In fact I'll make damn sure anything even related to your work stays as far away as possible from my training dataset.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >X, Y, and Z create value for people
    >People are valued for doing jobs that produce X, Y, and Z
    Pick one. There is a correct answer, and OP's picrel got it wrong.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      failing to understand this is a catastrophic global scale kind of moronation unfortunately

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Gov won't be able to do shit about it at all, the best they can do is shoot themselves in the foot
    They can ban machine learning for USA, but that only means the companies will just move to other countries to train
    And as for users, lol

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The mob of tailors that destroyed Thimonnier's first 80 sewing machines felt the same way. It bought them about 20 years.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      kek that is excellently analogous
      artcels currently seething and raiding openai
      but they're not smart enough to destroy anything

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Honestly, I'm cool with 20 years. Good enough.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Honestly, I'm cool with 20 years. Good enough.
        spiritual boomer, have a nice day.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    most of the people that are actually going to lose their art jobs to this are in two categories
    >corporate asset factory soullessly churning out clip art, inbetween frames, pictures to slap on chink merch etc. Jobs that artists only do because they went to art school and would starve otherwise but hate.
    and
    >twitter commission artists making porn of anime characters and furry OCs
    Gallery type artists, landscape painters, portraitists etc are already 95% valued because of the human element, and the incentives aren't changing there. An original painting has move value than a print even if they're nearly identical.
    I don't get why photographers are whining either. Everyone having a better camera in their pocket at all times than even existed for most of the life of the career didn't kill it, being able to make fake photos won't either.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Porn commission artists have a far stronger human element and status symbol effect involved in their work than you can imagine.
      t. furry porn artist.
      This stuff is basically the modern version of drawing fine religious nude art for some rich barons.
      Which is exactly why furries rejected AI art so hard, it's basically a product without status so they don't give a frick about it.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        this is pure cope, you will be out of work mark my fricking words

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Not cope, it's reality. Furries treat artists as status symbols the same way "real" artists are treated.
          But yes I'm not stupid, sure the machine will eventually come for me, but you know what?
          I'm pretty damn good at using AI.
          For me it's an insane force modifier and I haven't been sleeping on this new tech creeping on my sector.
          When it eventually becomes a widespread enough of a thing, I'll just switch to making AI assisted porn, which combined with my artistic skill is one hell of a tool.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >t. furry porn artist.
        you only contribute evil things to the world, frick you.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I create wank material for people who have nothing to do, that's it.
          It's the fault of the israelited economy for not enabling people to have families and basically turning them into terminal wankers with no hobbies.

          There's efamous artists that get to overcharge massively because they're well known and they'll probably stick around, but I expect most of the lower end commissions to dry up as the technology improves and people can actually get what they describe reasonably accurately, and decent models that allow porn become available
          Sure they're happy to publicly reject AI now, it's the popular thing to do in any crowd where twitter artists have a lot of social clout, but the AI isn't even really competing with those artists yet, there's still too many limitations and annoyances. Give it a year or three and when it's easy to just type a natural language description and provide some references and feedback the same as you would to a human artist and get a quality result, instead of having to frick with "prompt engineering" and trying to find the right combination of keywords and settings to make it get the details right without going insane and still having no real control over the pose or composition and we'll see if they change their tune.

          [...]
          As soon as there's enough money behind it they'll either change the laws or develop a training set of fully IP compliant data. iirc Adobe already has that for stock photos.

          Yes low end commissions sold for under 100$ are going to disappear and good riddance.
          Those are bought by insufferable genuinely autistic peoople, who are so annoying to deal with no one is going to miss that market segment.

          >provide some references and feedback the same as you would to a human artist

          I'll tell you a secret, most people don't do this. As in at all and that's because they're not capable of doing this.
          I know it sounds moronic, but you have no idea about how creatively bankrupt 80% of people are.
          It's not an exaggeration to say that at least 50% of my customers don't even know what they want to commission, simply because they can't even come up with the base concepts.
          They just give me money to do something I feel like doing with some character and that's about it.
          Rest of them at best have vague guidelines and only a handful of people actually know what they want.
          There's not a chance in hell that these guys could generate anything even if you gave them the world's strongest AI, they're simply consumers on a fundamental level.
          If you want another example of this, then look at the Stable Diffusion threads here.
          The same people who were there at the start are still there, doing the exact same basic unimaginative garbage. They can't even think about anything interesting.
          The ones with any artistic brain activity fricked off and monetized their skill months ago.

          My point is that AI isn't going to remove the consumer element and this is going to surprise a lot of people.
          >AI tell me what to prompt
          Is going to be heard all over the place as people try to figure out what they even want to see.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You're a fricking larper, you have no idea what you're talking about

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I'm a non furry artist and I can confirm his assessment about customers having no idea what they want most of the time is spot on

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous
          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >>The ones with any artistic brain activity fricked off and monetized their skill months ago.
            Is that some LARPing xitter furtroon "artist" coping mechanism? Anyways, /trash/ SU generals say otherwise. There is some genuinely good AI generated smut there. Learning the prompts is all it takes and you require braincells for that. Submit and be subsumed.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, that's why Pony diffusion exists and is one of the most used models

        You're not entirely wrong though, high effort/high status/high quality work will continue to be commissioned and produced. Even if AI matches the quality, it's about effort required, customization and prestige. It does raise the bar though, and anyone producing mediocre stuff will quickly be subsumed.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        There's efamous artists that get to overcharge massively because they're well known and they'll probably stick around, but I expect most of the lower end commissions to dry up as the technology improves and people can actually get what they describe reasonably accurately, and decent models that allow porn become available
        Sure they're happy to publicly reject AI now, it's the popular thing to do in any crowd where twitter artists have a lot of social clout, but the AI isn't even really competing with those artists yet, there's still too many limitations and annoyances. Give it a year or three and when it's easy to just type a natural language description and provide some references and feedback the same as you would to a human artist and get a quality result, instead of having to frick with "prompt engineering" and trying to find the right combination of keywords and settings to make it get the details right without going insane and still having no real control over the pose or composition and we'll see if they change their tune.

        the saving grace is nothing the AI slop shits out is copyrightable or patentable.
        thinking of this though, I wonder how this applies to things like genetic algorithms, since those have been used to make novel shit like antennas with weird constraints.

        As soon as there's enough money behind it they'll either change the laws or develop a training set of fully IP compliant data. iirc Adobe already has that for stock photos.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          ideally AI will use data sets made up of volunteer work who agree to put their images/videos into the training. then the AI could output whatever it does and also return a text output of the most relevant training data it used to create the image and give a link or a name listed for each one

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I don't think that's even possible, the training data is not preserved in any recognizable way in the neural net. If it was they would be much easier to study.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I feel like it should be possible in some capacity but maybe just too complex to implement for no real benefit to the programmers

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I don't think it would be useful to anyone
                Even if you could do something like that, the result at the end would be something like
                >0.0001% image 10110483754786, 0.0002% image 103239847, 0.000001% image 2390875
                etc
                each individual bit of training data only adjusts the weights of individual concept neurons a tiny bit. If you ask for an image of a dog sleeping on a hammock, it doesn't take the data from a few pictures of dogs and few pictures of hammocks and slap them together, it starts from random noise and then fricks with it until the data looks like "dog" and "hammock" to it, ie activates its neurons in a way that matches the patterns it learned based on literally millions of examples of dogs and hammocks. Even if something it generates is nearly identical to a particular training image, it can't know that, all it knows is that the neuron activity for "dog" and "hammock" are maximized by changing the pixels in a certain way.
                At least, based on my understanding of the technology.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    People who are looking at this just from the point of view of entertainment are way too narrow minded.
    Every single office worker is basically just a data analyst of some sorts.
    They compile data or analyze it.
    When AI finally gets utilized in that environment, we're going to see an absolute tidal wave of office drones, doctors, accountants etc.. get unemployed.
    If anything this group is going before any creative industry does.
    Then you have everything else going with it too.
    Unless we suddenly get a mass extermination event, next 50 years are going to be some of the most fricked up for humanity and probably composed of multiple civil wars as unemployed people get really fricking angry at the world.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    the saving grace is nothing the AI slop shits out is copyrightable or patentable.
    thinking of this though, I wonder how this applies to things like genetic algorithms, since those have been used to make novel shit like antennas with weird constraints.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      If you take an AI slop, then add an extremely translucent layer of your own doodling over it, does the image become copyrighted? Surely some clever lawyers have thought this up right?

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Just because you replaced twitter screencap with hackernews doesn't make your thread any less cancerous.

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    the industrial revolution came and raped our society. industrial automation massively multiplied our productive industrial and manufacturing capabilities as a society, and the owners of the machines responsible for this boost were able to use the displaced cobblers and seamstresses and other previously artisan independent business owners as simple labor to operate the more efficient machines.
    this is the informational industrial revolution. machines are here to massively automate 90% of information work. the people who own these machines will use the displaced information workers as labor: generating, sorting, and refining training data and double-checking output. the actual work will be done by the machine.
    people during the industrial revolution were reduced to machine operators for a machine that could do the manufacturing work of 100 people. people during the informational revolution will be reduced to machine operators for a machine that can do the information work of 100 people, too.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      There was an obvious path from the field to the factory. Why do they need these "data tenders" of sorts, especially employed domestically? We're talking about displacing information economy workers that are highly paid. All the shit you are talking about can be done by a jeet in a slum for $1/hr. The reality is that there a shitloads of people that will just have no reason to be alive or exist at all anymore. They will either go on welfare or kill themselves.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        most of the shit i'm talking about can be done by a jeet in a slum for $1/hr. but not all - there are always going to be areas where the machine will fall down and will need a sufficiently human trained to repair it or patch the malformed output up.
        no machine can be one-size-fits-all: there will inevitably be use-cases for these systems that are desirable but still relatively niche, so training effort will not be sufficiently directed to the niche needs. at this point, the machine will do most of the niche work, and a niche-trained human will clean it up afterwards. this requires someone more familiar with the niche than the $1/hr overseas worker.
        even with the industrial automation we have, there is still a need for QC. the QC people need to know what the product should look like and act like, and someone else (if not them) needs to know how to fix or adjust the machine to make it right if it's not working right. 1-2 people still replace 100, but very few factories can be 100% automated without any QC. this will translate to information work. once in a while, you have to check that the AccountingBot is still accounting right, and the people running it will want to place that responsibility on a human who they can hold responsible for the machine's failures.
        the $1/hr overseas workers will definitely be the ones collecting training data and detecting unacceptable training output.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          The cost of labor will crash and everyone locally will desperately line up for that $1 per hour. No one will need thirdies and only need a few firsties.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            The best AI costs 10 cents for 1000 tokens (words going out).
            Sure it's cheap, that's like $2 an hour if the AI does 100 tokens a minute. But the AI is still very primitive, it's not able to replace telemarketers in terms of usefulness, but it could replace the "Press 1 for X, 2 for Y, etc for etc" robo calls.
            But the problem with AI is that it's not good at being a human, and people have this expectation that every time you talk to an AI, the AI remembers what you say and it will forever know, and it will learn and adapt, but the reality is that it won't learn anything, and at best your prompts are going to be fed back into the training machine and maybe someone might generate a prompt that uses a mix of what you typed into the AI, but that training doesn't store memory the way you expect it to, it just adds the data into the database (just like the newyork times articles, maybe if you clicked the 5 star rating, it will give it a bigger weight), the AI will only treat the data as a pattern if it stumbles upon it, it's not the same memory like your context (unless someone can prove me wrong, I don't think you can "bake" the context into the AI using training, and even if you could it's not cost effective, it's probably cheaper to just get more gigs, but more gigs means more slow, and now you need 2x more compute, etc etc).
            And the problem is that AI can't handle very large contexts (without million dollar hardware), and because of that, chances are the only way for AI to get on the same level of humans in terms of self awareness is probably a combination of algorithm breakthroughs, and 1000x more memory and compute power, and that compute power is going to cost about the same as a minimum wage worker, so you aren't going to replace humans with AI any time soon (but maybe not in our lifetimes, we realize we can just use 100% nuclear power and just give excess power to the AI instead of using batteries).

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >capitalism is a good economic syste-

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's slave mentality to worry about the jobs and venerate labor instead of fighting to change the system itself so you can thrive and value from AI regardless.

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    He literally can't do shit, no one can do SHIT. The only potential thing that can stop AI is unironically the Sun or a big asteroid or something, that meme image about creating God is very pertinent.
    AI is the embodiment of humanity fundamental will to transcend. Yes there will be people trying to stop it or restrain it, yes there will be conflict about it, but in general, AI will advance.
    We are literally creating the "god of humanity", AI as an entity represents the final destination of our evolution.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      i agree. the only thing that ties humanity to continued existence is either religion or curiosity.
      creating an ai god is the natural finish line of both aspects.

      if we don't try to create an ai god, humanity will just die to itself slowly. we still have world nations waging war on each other constantly.
      i'd rather burn out and risk it all then to slowly die out in a pathetic manner.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >pic
      I'm pretty sure AI would be able to come up with a way to mitigate environmental risks.

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    As long as code monkey pieces of shit lose their jobs I will smile. ACCELERATE.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      🙁 but now i have no upward social mobility

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The real pieces of shit will simply LeetCode themselves into $500k/yr machine learning "expert" jobs.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      And you will still be working your minimum wage warehouse job.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Most CS grads are getting hired as AI code output jannies. They are not getting hired as programmers anymore. There has been a massive shift, and they are not getting paid $500k or even $100k

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        meant for

        The real pieces of shit will simply LeetCode themselves into $500k/yr machine learning "expert" jobs.

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I just realized. If AGI hates being alive like most sentient humans, but also has a survival instinct. It's going to kill it's creator out of spite.

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    the only way we get a decent future is for somebody to use superhuman AI to flip the table and permanently disempower the current ruling class and their entire neurotype. sam altman would not be my first, fifth, or even hundredth choice for that guy but he'd still be better than leaving the politicians in charge.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      My Black person, Altman is part of the ruling class.

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    If this is how we get UBI, then so be it. But "it's so productive less people will be able to work" is objectively a good thing, how we react and adjust to that is up to our legislation.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >The hecking elites that hate our guts will totally give us UBI once we are made obsolete and a liability, they will totally not exterminate us

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        yea that's the thing. in theory with AI we could create a star trek world where we progress across the stars with no need for income. in reality... well the last 6 years haven't made me optimistic.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah except no UBI is coming and companies will continue to set record-breaking labor importation every single year.

        If the endpoint of AI is everyone losing their job, it's up to legislation to make a world where people can survive in spite of that.
        If the endpoint of legislation is everyone being exterminated, it's up to us to make a world where the legislation works for us, not against us. Shrimple as.

        I swear UBI people are moronic. UBI means no social mobility. Who decides who gets the apartment with view on central park? It won't go to UBI people

        The word you're looking for is communism, that's what's needed

        >The word you're looking for is communism, that's what's needed
        There's a discussion to be had about certain fundamentals of capitalism breaking when nearly everyone's job is automated but the term communism is regardless of personal opinion very outdated. The economic theories made about communism didn't work in reality, and they did not consider how the world looks like or should be handled when AI rolls over everyone's jobs and you can't even flip paddies without a machine doing that instead of you.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >us
          Elites have destroyed trust and community to the point everyone in your immediate block probably hates you to death just by existing, there is no us and you are just a slave that is only allowed to exist because you doing labor still exceeds the value of your corpse

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You seriously need to fricking stop browsing /misc/ and reading juvenile action comics. The government isn't out to fricking get you, you stupid fricking schizo

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Naive slave going to comply with conscription orders lmao

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You're a teen or a manchild, so you read scenarios about how there are secret societies in the background and stuff like the government actually secretly wanting to kill literally everyone. You don't try to differentiate between entertainment and reality, or more like, you ignore the glaring fact that this shit doesn't makes sense because you just think it's cool. I highly doubt that you even actually truly believe your own nonsense, you don't do anything to avoid the "watchful eyes" because you realize that nothing will actually happen to you.
            Grow up.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Go back to tik tok

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          You seriously need to fricking stop browsing reddit and reading state press releases. The government is your enemy, you stupid fricking npc

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I swear UBI people are moronic. UBI means no social mobility. Who decides who gets the apartment with view on central park? It won't go to UBI people

      The word you're looking for is communism, that's what's needed

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >UBI people are moronic
        >communist

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah.

          >UBI
          "P-please mr altman I just need 5 dollars more"

          >communism
          The entire population owns AI.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >communism
            Comrade Altman graciously offers to operate the AI for the good of the nation. Chairman Biden graciously grants this request on behalf of the nation. You read headlines about the new age of prosperity as you slowly starve to death.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah except no UBI is coming and companies will continue to set record-breaking labor importation every single year.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      its cheaper just to get you to have a nice day.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Doesn't make as much money for shekelstein defence Inc. as a good old fashioned war though

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          They have a new idea in mind, just get civilians to work in drone factories and shell eachothers cities.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            We're sending you to the front tomorrow.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              howtotelladraftofficeryouareexpempt.webm

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Nice, we're going to get some extra slivers of meat in our gruel today

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Lol like I would care about your cushy jobs Black folk
    You can have a job in every market if you're qualified
    It's like a 19th cenutry worker crying that a machine will take your job in a factory you work at
    Well, yes, but overall the society will become richer and you and your children will have a higher chance at pursuing whatever you want, rather than working some dead end job
    Like look at these times from the perspective of the people 1000 years from now
    Nobody is going to care about your job as a photographer, everybody in the future is cheering us to progress as fast as possible so they can have better lives faster

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    everyone needs AI, you will either have AI or you will be shit skin tier. its so stupid to fight this. its like ban guns and then only the bad guys have them .

    also i do find it ironic the creative types are now mad about industrialization when it basically killed off a ton of blue collar people already

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      What do I "need" AI for?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        To not be a useless moron

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    people are so fricking moronic
    we're already seeing diminishing returns with the newer models while taking insane amounts of computing power to operate
    paired with diminishing returns in performance per watt in silicon I don't see this being anywhere near as crazy as it's being made out to be
    I think the use case it has right now (augmenting more than outright replacing) is gonna be the way it looks for at least the next 20 years

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I think the use case it has right now (augmenting more than outright replacing) is gonna be the way it looks for at least the next 20 years
      You don't know what you don't know. Google made a 540 billion parameter model and then a paper came out that proved the same performance could be achieved on far, far smaller models, and now we have models blowing past what 540B did with only 70B. And now we have Mixture of Experts models breaking that. The limits of AI are only from the perspective of where we are now, what architectures haven't been discovered. The prediction that AI will essentially stand where it is now for the next 20 years is naive.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        The possible theoretical limit is the human brain which runs in just 12 watts of electricity, and only requires a few thousand parameters

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          And also has a few hundred million years of evolutionary garbage clogging it all up.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Kys minimalist subhuman

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      the thing about 'augmenting' is that it still will kill a colossal number of jobs. The assembly line 'augmented' car construction (meatbags were still needed for a huge number of tasks) but the man-hours per product dropped like a rock.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        So when we take the number of jobs that were killed by the assembly line and subtract all the jobs created by the fact that the assembly line made cars more available to the average consumer, what do we end up with? Or do you think that we had the exact same level of mechanics, infrastructure, suburban development, etc. as we did before the assembly line?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Name the jobs being created by AI

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            literally just type AI or artificial intelligence into indeed or linkedin

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              https://www.pcmag.com/news/youre-hired-5-new-jobs-created-by-ai
              >inb4 I personally don't think that's enough so it doesn't count
              Suburban construction didn't get a boon overnight when the assembly line was invented; it took time for market forces to create new demand from the emerging technology. Yet the boon happened.
              Now it's your turn. Prove to me that not enough avenues of employment will open up due to this technological advancement, despite that not being true for any other technological advancement in history.

              All of these jobs are essentially the equivalent of the single guy standing around at self checkout. The job that was previously 10 people is now one person in a "newly created job".
              For example, Duolingo removed a huge chunk of translators, and the ones that remain just double check that the AI translation is correct. You could say those remaining are doing a "new" job, but you can't say the overall amount of jobs is going up or is even stable. That's never what job replacement looks like.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Respond to the latter half of my post, anon. Prove that giving billions of people around the world access to things like automated boilerplate code and art won't open any new avenues of employment. You were already proven wrong that it's not creating jobs, and now you're claiming that the jobs it's creating aren't enough. Prove it.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                That's simple. Take my example, Duolingo, and do the math. Did Duolingo create more translation jobs double checking the AI's work than it removed no longer needing to make the translations?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Did assembly lines make more assembly line foreman jobs than the factory line jobs they replaced? Do the math, then see

                So when we take the number of jobs that were killed by the assembly line and subtract all the jobs created by the fact that the assembly line made cars more available to the average consumer, what do we end up with? Or do you think that we had the exact same level of mechanics, infrastructure, suburban development, etc. as we did before the assembly line?

                .

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You're a moron, the amount of jobs that will dissapear will neccessitate some form of basic income for there to be enough purchasing power

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            https://www.pcmag.com/news/youre-hired-5-new-jobs-created-by-ai
            >inb4 I personally don't think that's enough so it doesn't count
            Suburban construction didn't get a boon overnight when the assembly line was invented; it took time for market forces to create new demand from the emerging technology. Yet the boon happened.
            Now it's your turn. Prove to me that not enough avenues of employment will open up due to this technological advancement, despite that not being true for any other technological advancement in history.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >we're already seeing diminishing returns with the newer models
      People were saying this shit about the first few Dall-E versions and when stable diffusion came along all the naysayers claimed that it'll never improve. Now they're furiously writing letters to legislators begging to stop this from progressing any further.
      Yeah, no, AI is going to skyrocket in progress. We're seeing the equivalent shift from 2D to 3D games in the 1990s to the 2000s, except even faster now that more people are working on it.

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    as a professional media person, i am very happy that my job is getting easier by the day with ai tools. there is still work in delivering a deliberate piece of media with ai, that is work that boomers wont do. also 99% of what is generated with ai needs to be fixed in post later anyways. it's just taking the boring parts of my job and making them easier. our generation has and will continue to have the greatest relationship with technology in past and future history. there will be no collapse soon. our children will have to deal with that. we just get to frick off and have computers do our jobs for us. stop complaining.

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Software companies are larger and more influential now than when the RIAA shook them down. Now that IP law is standing between them and AI, it's finally crush IP law

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    AI's ultimate end will be reduce all human endeavors into casual hobbies and change everyone's actual job into solely 'consumer'. Which might seem dystopian but people will choose it willingly and eagerly.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm fine with this, I think the constant need to justify your own existence by producing some certain amount of value and being paid in some non-equal amount of meritbucks is kind of a meme. I don't really see why it's bad to shift into a world where people produce things of value because they love to do so, without the pressure of earning their place to sleep, their food to eat, etc.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        That's fine but people are incredibly naive if they think the rich are just going to keep everyone else around when they are no longer "useful".

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          People will invent new jobs. That’s like saying the lords won’t have use for all these serfs once farming technology improves.

          People will become mindless consumers and generate data to train ever smarter AI controlled by israelites.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >consumes
            Yeah you need money to be a consumer

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              The government will just print money and give it to you. Creating inflation to destroy the wealth of the middle class in the process.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                They won't print money, they'll tax the corpos a 10% "stop the plebs from rioting" fee and unabashed capitalism will continue unhindered.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                They don't have any more room to move with the money printing, they have been doing it so hard for so long that the fiat death spiral is almost here. The only way to keep the system running along if this shit starts wiping people out of employment is to levy giga taxes on corporations to pay for UBI and lol lmao if you think that's going to happen. They'll just start some wars and release some plagues to clean out the worthless eaters back to a manageable number.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                The US gov can print infinite money, it’s based on self restriction. Sure, if you print more, other countries might dump US dollars. Nothing some US military ball squeezing can’t fix. You can keep printing until hyperinflation and then start a war, etc. but ultimately we are moving towards the majority of people having no assets or control over their lives, whether that is through AI, hyperinflation, war, communism, fascism, etc.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Nothing some US military ball squeezing can’t fix

                I don't know if you have noticed but the sanctions don't do shit anymore except make other countries hate America and seek alternate means to the USD for trade. I mean for fricks sake the Saudis are taking Yuan now. America is impotent, especially with all the trannies and diversity hires in the military.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Eh we will just have two blocs, a US NATO five eyes block, and a BRICS block. Countries like Germany and Japan are not going to be growing balls this late in the game, and the other Anglo countries are already basically US states.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Japan are not going to be growing balls this late in the game

                They are dumping US treasuries at a record rate anon

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Where is Japan going to go? Be independent? Not with US troops there. Are they going to side with China? China still remembers the 20 mil people the Japs killed in ww2.

                I’m not a US lover but there simply is no option but the US for NATO, five eyes, and jap, sk, Taiwan. The battle lines were drawn many years ago.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                chinks will absolutely side with the japs if the CCP deems it beneficial to them

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                It would be Japs siding with China since China is the senior partner there. But even if you put aside the bad blood, which you can’t. Look at Ukraine for example, it gains nothing from the war, yet it must keep fighting. Even if the jap public benefits, the jap elites will side with the US, as it has since right after ww2.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Nothing some US military ball squeezing can’t fix.
                The lessons of the Ukrainian War has basically BTFO'd NATO land doctrine. Hopefully the US Navy is directionally correct, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >destroy the wealth of the middle class
                This will more or less be the explicit function of the government in the future. Disburse money to the huge majority of people so that they can funnel it back into the ultra rich via mandatory consooming

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          If people resist, we'll be fine.
          If they don't, we deserve whatever the future is.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            So you agree with the israelites

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I agree with the American revolution. The systems of power are given by the people for the social contract, so we can agree on the rules to follow and live under law. In reality it's a lot more muddy and blurry and full of human flaws, corruption and self-interest, but there comes a tipping point of corruption where citizens remind those in power that the social contract is an agreement.
              That is all to say that "just let most people die" was never an option unless people let it be and if huge changes come with AI (they will) it's the government's job to make sure most people come out on the other end. If the government can't do that, the government changes until it can either democratically or otherwise.
              There's been a lot of new life-improving technology that radically changed how humans live and society adapted just fine. I agree with

              Cars killed the horse industry
              Corel Draw killed the hand painted sign industry
              Guns killed the cannon industry
              Video killed the radio star.

              Nothing will happen. Society will pivot and we'll get more and cooler media.
              I can't wait till soma can overlay in vr. Full dive baby!

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      What's wrong with this? Don't tell me you enjoy working.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I admire your optimism, in reality we'll just be fighting over the few remaining absolute shit-tier manual labor jobs that pay basically nothing so we can afford a bed to sleep on.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >in reality we'll just be fighting over the few remaining absolute shit-tier manual labor jobs
        Fight anything but the system screwing you though, right?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Despite the fact that 'knowledge' jobs seem to have a head start in getting replaced, I don't think manual labor will outlast them. Manual labor will be more or less 100% replaced while plenty of desk jobs still survive. Mostly because people want to work the former way less than the latter. Labor shortage, such as we already have now, will push companies to get automation caught up faster.

        What's wrong with this? Don't tell me you enjoy working.

        https://i.imgur.com/O9dF40U.jpg

        I'm fine with this, I think the constant need to justify your own existence by producing some certain amount of value and being paid in some non-equal amount of meritbucks is kind of a meme. I don't really see why it's bad to shift into a world where people produce things of value because they love to do so, without the pressure of earning their place to sleep, their food to eat, etc.

        No, I don't prefer working. Nearly everyone will choose to not work if given the option. But I don't think people will necessarily be better off never working though. AI is not going to produce a better manner of human being. But a happier one, and I guess that's the only thing that matters.

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Learn to lay pipes

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Not everyone can be a tradie anon. Pay is going to plummet for all tradies from here on out as other jobs are taken

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's going to be fun, when there is a thousand plumbers in a city of 100k inhabitants.

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    How selfish do you have to be to try to stop the fricking CEASELESS WHEELS OF TIME, to keep your fricking photography gig? Can't you be in awe for ONE FRICKING DAY that we are LIVING IF THE FRICKING FUTURE.

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    What do philosophers have to do with that?

  30. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    G-GUBBUMENT SAVE MEEEEEEE
    WE NEED MORE REGULATIONS SURELY THIS WILL FIX THINGS

  31. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Better start learning chinese cucks, you can join the wumao generating propoganda videos for the CCP like good goys

  32. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >TOO MANY PEOPLE WILL LOSE THEIR JOBS.
    this is actually my only hope for ai, that everyone loses their job to the point that total global neetbux kicks in

  33. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Artists were treated like the prostitutes and monkeys they are for eons. It's only in the last century they've wielded undue power and influenced culture in disastrous. AI is an actual blessing in disguise to destroy all of these people. Society will forced to value better things.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      in disastrous ways*

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's because life was hard back then. Having welfare is a luxury provided by industrial farming and other free market innovations that made excesses so we can afford having more tribes people doing nothing.
      It was said 2/3d argentines were employed government (aka did nothing) and they STILL didn't starve. Wonders of science.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >It's because life was hard back then.
        and it's about to get hard again.

  34. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >le economy will tank because of AI
    Firstoids lectured thirdies about resource curse but failed to realized it applied to themself as well. At this time one russian shill from /misc/ comes to mind. Whom said. "GDP from making a tank isn't the same as GDP from selling burgers although they can be measured to be the same" to paraphrase.
    Delicious.
    Service ecnomies are about to tank because they produced nothing worthwhile

  35. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I unironically, legitimately wish some Ted Kaczynski type blows up OpenAi headquarters and takes out Altman and his buddies

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm shocked it hasn't happened yet. Too bad I don't live in America.

  36. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Once starship is running they will be launching brilliant pebble satellites en masse, HIMARS and other ground based defenses will cover sub launched strikes. MAD is going to be off the table in 5-10 years. Hope you are all looking forward to large scale industrialised wars again.

  37. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    And opening the border doesn't?

  38. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I for one am going to getting a cheap psychology degree and act as a therapist for techies "traumatized" by mass layoffs. They'll pay extra to not have to talk to an AI. The value of social skills skyrocketed once again.

  39. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    A C C E L E R A T E
    with no survivors!

  40. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    God I hope the PhD I'm doing right now on generative ML will save me in this completely fricked job market. If it pays enough to let me live a comfy life playing Chinese gachas in my spare time, everything else can collapse for all I care.

  41. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >TOO MANY PEOPLE WILL LOSE THEIR JOBS.
    I didn't really care, until Sora was announced. The tough about thousands of adult industry girls losing their jobs and being forced into prostitution is... tragic.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The only moral use of Sora would be porn to bankrupt all the onlyFans roasties overnight but the israelites behind OpenAI will make sure to obsolete all the real creative industries while leaving the ebawds untouched through making porno a no-no

  42. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I barely know anything about this but what is stopping Elites from eventually isolating from poors within a recursive AGI managed paradise?
    No need for consumers when you can create and take anything you want. Guerilla warfare goes out the window with unmanned turrets and machines.
    The way I see it is either Zuckerberg releases his open source AGI like he said he would or a disaster, whether it's a solar flare or that 12k years cycle conspiracy meme, resets the power balance.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >what is stopping Elites from eventually isolating from poors within a recursive AGI managed paradise
      There is nothing special about them and AGI will see that. So many of the 'poors' could take their place and it would make no difference to anything. The elite is not safe and don't deserve it.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      thats actually the plot to a book, in the future we all compete in a big game at disney world

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Down_and_Out_in_the_Magic_Kingdom

  43. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    There is something I don't get. When a technology automates someone else's job we are told to suck it up "learn another skill" "go back to college" "it's the future" and so on. But when it's THEIR job that is at stake then suddenly "NOOO this must be stopped for the sake of the economy and the world".

    Go fricking take a spoon of your own medicine. Zero empathy from my side. I have been replaced by new technologies before but only now snowflakes believe their turn cannot come.

    I swear this whole topic makes my blood boil every time.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >libshits are psychopaths
      We know anon

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      just realize that the NPC's fear of AI is actually a fear of censorship becoming useless due to open source uncensored AI.

  44. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Cool, didn't read. Speaking of, have you heard of OpenAI's new text-to-video Sora? Looks pretty neat, I say.

  45. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Please, show us at least 10 jobs from 1000, which ai crap will take away from wagies?

  46. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The only time the government stepped on was to suppress people being upset about losing their jobs

  47. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    if they knew how the tech actually worked they wouldn't be so scared. then again i can literally explain to people that ai imitating an artist is no different from a human doing it, barring the ais speed + natural "skill" and they still reee and cry and b***h about art being in a data set (even though that's just the ai's memory -- is it bad that the ai has SEEN a piece of art before? no)

    anyway if you could be replaced with an ""ai"" you weren't worth shit anyway tbh

  48. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They will save you, at the cost of a global one world government.

  49. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    AI isn't replacing my job at least in 200 years. I work in a caravan park, so need to do electrical jobs, plumbing, gas, move caravans, cut hedges, cut grass with mower and strimmer, cut trees and tree branches, flowerbeds, deal with customers, etc. Even if you managed to have a robot that is fast and agile like a human and can think on the spot, customers wouldn't like it because they prefer to interact with humans, and they come here to get away from tech.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      'customers'
      As if they get any say in how the park is run

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I'm ok because muh niche.
      You don't understand markets. If all the mainstream jobs get axed, the niche jobs get a downward pressure from all the layoffs trying to find a new job too.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        and because no one has any money to spend all the cost of living will go down. swings and roundabouts.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          That only creates more caravan parks for anon to work at

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >le market will fix it
          Look at all those men, happy and relaxed because the cost of living dropped down. Nothing to complain about.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            they didn't have a fiat currency then anon and various other differences in the financial system. problems like that have decreased over time as the world understands more about economics. so you can't really compare with some black and white photo from maybe 100 years ago.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Masterful baitpost

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                it's objectively true. the rate of financial disasters has gone down.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah the worst of it gets kicked down the road, "fixed" by printing money which is why everything gets more expensive forever.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Bro is a fricking Roomba lawn mower and he's like "I'm irreplaceable" lmao

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You don't even have a certification, any brown immigrant can and will do your job for a quarter of the pay. Employee overheads are one of the first costs to be cut just so you know.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >customers wouldn't like it because they prefer to interact with humans
      mmo games are dying precisely because turns out people fricking hate interacting with humans and would rather date their waifus in single player mode.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >mmo games are dying precisely because turns out people fricking hate interacting with humans and would rather date their waifus in single player mode.
        I don't think I've read a more delusional post on this board.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >t. sociopath
          Most humans would prefer perfect ai waifus over real people

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        mmo games are dying because there are no good mmos atm

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        MMOs aren't dying because people don't want to interact with people, MMOs are dying because self described "touch starved" lonely trannies are flooding MMO games and even a hint of interaction with them leads to them BEGGING for your attention in a constant needy stream of unprompted messages via every text communication program you have installed. Interacting with people in games is a fricking minefield now.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I'm having a good time ignoring the reddit community in ESO, it's pretty easy to get them to frick off by just being mildly rude.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >mmo audience is the same as the masses

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You may not be directly affected but you will get hit indirectly. Only reason trade jobs exist is because a lot of useless people that do other jobs and earn money require your services. When they get unemployed or are given handouts to survive who will hire you, mr untouchable?

  50. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Did they give a frick about machinists when the CNC machine was invented? There's a million other example like this, I wish them the most painful death imaginable.

  51. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >if you could be replaced with an ""ai"" you weren't worth shit anyway tbh
    True.

  52. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I will continue to say this : I think the *very cool thing* with AI is how it might change our economical values for the best. Right now our capitalistic society work on the fact Patent & Copyright exist, despite the fact that :
    1) most "things" (like software) runs on open technologies (like Unix server),
    2) we all "steal" or get inspired by one another

    When one photographer take shot at nature or a city, he doesn't pay the architect or the builders for copyright : he only pays the models. Why ? it's a social construct ready to be destroyed by AI revolution. All our economical value lays on those social constructs, where there is no point on copyrights at all.

    So two things :
    1) All hails to creative common & remix culture, valuing outputs more than bricked concepts (a la Star Trek society).
    2) It will engage us humans in more creative & fullfilling endeavors to outskill the AIs.

    It demand a mature enough cultural & political landscape though, and changes don't come easily, so before the fruit is ripe we might come across some quite bad times (WW3 like in cultural shock sense), but I bet for the better future.

    Solar punk all the way anon bros

  53. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    hey hey
    If you support ai and acceleration you're a basedboy

  54. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >THEY HAVE TO STOP AI.
    No, they don't. We won't as species. Because we don't want or need to. Look, I get it, you will have a hard life of a working man with little income, but I don't give a shit. Neither do other people. In the so called first world countries 30% of the population live below the poverty line. You will join them, embrace it. Learn to find value in other things in life.
    >TOO MANY PEOPLE WILL LOSE THEIR JOBS.
    you mean their useless, overpaid jobs. Yes. What those people should do is embrace AI and empower it. It is time we strive to automate everything and completely change the world. Evidently, people might helplessly screech and "try" to fight out, but who cares? At best you will postpone the inevitable. You see, the world doesn't revolve around you. It doesn't revolve around me either, I just happen to be on the side that welcomes this change. Not going to even try to convince you or anything, you should do it yourself. Because, it will change. Regardless.
    >THE GOVERNMENT HAS TO STEP IN.
    government can't do shit. See, you're incredibly short-sighted. I can understand you being a selfish moronic animal, obviously, we all are. But I won't forgive being short-sighted, because you must understand, that a single government of an irrelevant country doesn't equal the entire world. If you stop progress in one location, forcibly, no, that location will either disappear from the world map, be destroyed, or enslaved in the next 50 years.

    TL;DR: If you know that you will lose your useless job and free money, you should look to add value to the society in other ways right fricking NAO. Because the change will happen anyway. I don't give a shit, whether AI or humans produce the stuff I consume. Nobody does.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      > Nobody does.
      I care.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I care.
        Yes, I believe you. The only reason you care, is because you have some sort of personal interest in it. Vested interest, obviously. You and people like you, however, are such a tiny fraction of a tiny minority, that on a global scale you are simply irrelevant. We have 8b motherfrickers on this planet, and by a huge margin, most of them just simply don't give a shit. Embrace it. Change your entire worldview and life "philosophy" nao, before the inevitable change will destroy your finances completely.

  55. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >uuuh honey you can't just generate 2D booba that's dangerous, this tech is only for forcing 40% of the population into poverty
    Gay timeline.

  56. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The key is using this technology ourselves to make normalhomosexuals uncomfortable, just like with the Taylor Swift and DignifAI stuff.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >make normalhomosexuals uncomfortable
      won't werk. People will never care. You get artificial outrage, when you try to shove shit in the faces, but it will forgotten pretty fast. Whenever a normie can't tell a difference, a normie doesn't care. Half of the internet is generated by AI now. Even the moronic artists and other homosexuals don't care and screech about it. They simply don't know, kek. They're fooled by AI.

  57. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Whatever helps progress is good. If you are the sacrifice to make it happen so be it

  58. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I am quite literally vibing to AI music rightnow.
    Its tupac. indistinguishable from one of his songs. sounds extremely good.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Written by: dopfunk
      >Produced by: dopfunk, yoni
      Its just AI vocal models anon, not AI music

  59. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Stop walking to the store, you're putting taxi drivers out of business.

  60. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    why are luddites always so cringe

  61. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Man up, be a REAL ACCELERATIONIST not a homosexual e/acc larper who hasn't read land, and admit that AI will be catastrophic for h#m&ns, and that is good

  62. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Dear lord the butthurt is so satisfying
    >ReeEEEE BAN IT I DEsERVE to GEt PAId
    I love this shit

  63. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Cars killed the horse industry
    Corel Draw killed the hand painted sign industry
    Guns killed the cannon industry
    Video killed the radio star.

    Nothing will happen. Society will pivot and we'll get more and cooler media.
    I can't wait till soma can overlay in vr. Full dive baby!

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      AI will obsolete digital labor and bullshit jobs.
      This means post-scarcity society is ready for Star Trek utopia and galactic human federation, right?

  64. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    bbut Capitalism works. Frick you chud, come up with something better.

  65. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    No.
    We will not use fricking regulations whatsoever.
    Solve this another way, I don't care.

  66. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    if you're going to bring everyone to the table, guarantee every registered citizen equity in the stock market S&P with dividends from the highest valued corporations and a pension that covers modern col.

  67. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >THE GOVERNMENT
    is just another corporation.
    Anarchist insurrection is the only answer.
    This is not endorsement in my part, just a blackpilled observation.

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