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The consequences of AI art
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There's still time to change your degree program
>mfw technical artist doing high-end work
t bh i expect to be safe longer than most software only devs (learn to code and art, brainlets) and knowledge workers. 2030ish.
beyond that i think i'll hunt people for a living.
>beyond that i think i'll hunt people for a living.
omega based, same here--though I expect to be taking rich people on hunting trips.
Can't really automate hunting, it's the experience.
Learn to code.
Or start doing NSFW furry commissions.
furry comms are literally the #1 type of artgay at risk of being made obsolete, furry stuff is extremely easy for AI to grasp, partially because e621 is probably the most robustly tagged art repository on earth.
And AI's #1 skill is creating ideas into pictures that nobody really wanted to create which is basically the g-spot of nsfw furry artgayging
Except it can’t do niche shit. I have a furry friend, there are no LORAS of most of his fetishes, and those that do have it are low quality trash that shits itself when you change the character from human to dragon and then to fox.
Just train your own Lora.
anon how dumb do you have to be to say something like that
have you not seen these "one year later" posts? we are at the CUSP of everything you've ever wanted to see, hear, or play being made available to you at the snap of your fingers.
I really like f95 model on civitai. It's not great, but it really gives me my fricked up fix.
I no longer consider shelling out to Sparrow to draw me Urta or Kindred doing particular stuff.
I just have to get good with inpainting.
It doesn't have to have realistic proportions. In fact it's better if not, not because uncanny-valley inmuno combrains but due to the fetishistic nature of the piece. Plus fur hides muscle and bonrs.
AI art is not a threat to furry art because it only eliminated poor Black folk who want shitty smelly kinks that an artist wouldn't draw anyway. AI art made those homosexuals go away and waste their time configuring AI to think they are getting what they want, so from an artist's point of view, they aren't constantly constantly around making new accounts to get past their last ban to e-beg for the same smelly shit they have been for the last 15 years. AI art is known as you being poor or into shitty kinks. What matters is that an artist did your picture, it's kind of like a virtual version of provenance.
Case in point:
This stupid Black person waste of space that nobody will remember 5 minutes after he dies because he's into shitty kinks
> wall of text
You should look the artist up. Fricked up kinks is exactly what he does and did from the start.
>3 sentences is a wall of text
Your average shitty-kink AI user, everyone
Furgays care about the names. People pay big money just to say they commissioned a piece from a big artist. Anime art on the other hand...
code and porn at at higher risk, you fricking moron.
>please slow down tech progress for everyone else so i can be comfortable for a few more years.
what a primative crab bucket mindset.
I'm an artgay and people trying to resist AI art are fricking moronic.
It's coming and that's it.
You either adapt to it and remain marketable or become a prompt engineer etc.. or you get fricked and find another career.
n-no if we just keep posting hysterically on twitter about "regulation" then Joe BIden will make computers illegal for us, I'm sure of it
>prompt engineer
a career path that will have a lifespan of 5 years
the last 5 years before the Great Collapse, might as well proooooooooooompt
You mean 5 months? Every time new Midjourney version comes out or some random Microsoft/Google/Adobe bs like BingAI or Firefly you basically have to start from a scratch and each tool gets easier and easier and more intuitive. GPT4 you can literally tell the dumbass chatbot to prompt for you. And now you have text2video that can just make animation and pick the best frame for you.
This. Lmao I'm getting a ton of coverage with Timelapses of drawings that started as sketches, put them through SD and trace over it.
Getting about 2000 likes on tik tok so far lmao
Not every moron can trace well enough to produce something beautiful. I hope you find it entertaining because idk if 2000 internet points is worth it.
>artist
>wants to eat
Kek
Even miku is losing her job to ai
Actually this.
Most artists throughout hisory weren't well paid. They only got famous after they died.
Funny part is the vast majority of the anti-AI artists are barely making shit, and either draw with the skills of a mid-tier middle schooler despite drawing for a decade, or they run a Patreon that makes about $10/mo consistently for the last 5 years and blame AI for why they're struggling.
When the big dogs complain, the algorithm likes them more, but 99.999% of the artists complaining are random nobodies that make less than my no-effort tip jar.
It is funny how many artists whose works sell for millions today had to give them away, sell them or pawn them for almost nothing, and that it is the descendants of those who received them who take the profits.
99% of artists complaining about AI would still be working retail in an AI-less world.
Not my problem
Automation getting rid of jobs is fine until it affects me. Then it needs to stop.
Automation getting rid of jobs sucks until it affects me. Then it needs to accelerate until everyone loses their job.
I am in syntony with these sentiments
not my problem lol
Yeah I'll take a grande black, name for the order is chad. Tip? lmao you're just taking an order
why is making coffee the go-to example of a bad job for americans
I've never been a barista but it seems like nicer work than many of the shit jobs I've had
It's not an example of a bad job, it's the job all the arts grads get after they realize their degree is worthless
Grande black is a starbucks order. There are no baristas in a starbucks.
theres a sale on kneepads on temu might wanna check it out
I love the hypocrisy here
>works at a tech company
>complains about their job being replaced
technological advancements of any kind replace jobs, as well as create new ones. if we all stopped advancing technology for the sake of saving jobs you wouldn't be working for a tech company to begin with
>as well as create new ones.
Yes that work will be done by blue haired trannies and diversity hires. What kind of new jobs you expect where production is literally one click? Marketing and adverting will grow and what else, like they are not cancerous enough. If you cant give one example then why even post.
Adapt or die. Water-carriers and postmen also went extinct
all AI art is derivative
if AI puts all artists out of business, then there will be nothing new being created to feed the AI models.
Then the models will begin to fail, and art in general will become an arcane relic of the past.
AI companies don't care about this tho. They will make a quick buck and maintain a long term monopoly on all art in the future. Win win for them.
Yes and no, if new human art stops being made, new models might not be made. But existing models will not disappear and can be improved without needing more images. Some of the biggest models in stable diffusion only used about 3 million images for training, there are far more than that. The only reason people don't make bigger models so far is mostly because is time consuming.
>all AI art is derivative
All human art is derivative. It's not like a genre of music is pulled out of the ether. It's a combination of existing art applied in a novel way. But every step is derived from other steps
youre wrong, humans can create from nothing
People don't create ideas from nothing. They must draw on whatever they experienced. From the first homosexual Erectus to the last man on earth, all create and arrange things according to what they saw.
Originality is always relative.
Cool show me a color and shape that nobody has ever seen before.
Make sure it is not comparable to anything that has ever come before it.
I could imagine it but you cannot show it, it is physically impossible. Plus no matter what I would show you you would still refute it by desperately trying to find some form of connection to it. If you asked me for a brand new original creature, and I showed you an ant in a world with no arthropods, you would still find some dumbass way of saying “you just combined rat, monkey, gave it armor and made it stupidly small”.
If you get replaced by AI as it currently exists you lack the talent necessary to succeed as an artist in the first place.
Creativity does not exist in a vacuum. Unless you can put a person into a vacuum and give them no past experience, with no possible other physical influence, and they still generate an idea, your idea is impossible to prove.
Ok, but why is AI more derivative and samey? Even in writing it is so generic that there are tools to detect it and they have somewhat high success rate. I don’t care that your experiment is impossible, it’s the equivalent of arguing real communism was never tried in big scale because real communism means no money, no envy/greed and no hierarchies, which is impossible to make.
>why is AI more derivative and samey?
the fault of the proompter. it's still a computer, the fault lies with the user.
>in writing it is so generic that there are tools to detect it and they have somewhat high success rate.
you mean the tools that have high false positive rates that end up getting normal students unduely penalized? ask me how i know you're an offsite tourist. you can upload anything to those sites and get a "this was made by AI" Black person.
Because of censorship, restricting training data. AI due to this inevitably doesn't show the flaw of humanity, in which our beauty lies. It will only ever be limited to the common denominator of perfection, which is striking, but wholly lacking of anything human.
>it's the fault of the proompter
Wrong, it's the fault of humanity. We are trying to create perfection, not recognizing that it inherently limits the capacity of AI in the greatest extent. AI is foolish because we are foolish. AI is only a representation of ourselves and what parts of ourselves we decide it should be based on.
In other words, saying that humans can create something from nothing is also saying that something must be able to exist without any kind of basis in reality. Any kind of creature you create will be fundamentally based on the ability to perceive both the 2nd and 3rd dimensions through sight. It's both incredibly stupid and arrogant to say that you derive creations from nothing.
>humans can create from nothing
Why the frick would you think this?
100 iq moment
Nah, vast majority of stories told in movies, manga, anime and books are copies of old tales and those tales are copies of even older tales, which were originally based on the real experiences of the people who first told them, the same applies to all art.
The people reacting to you have not spontaneously created (yet)
Make me a sandwich with no materials on hand.
Create a scientific field that didn't exist before.
Create a piece of art that didn't exist before based on subject no man has ever though of and that draws on no past experiences, of you or any man that has ever come before you. If you can do any of these, you are God by cosmological argument.
me using dalle has nothing to do with the megacorporation that will use AI to put you out of a job without you ever realizing it, and targeting your resentment at individuals instead of those corporations or the government is classic useful idiot crab bucket bullshit
That person should get a real job.
>What do you have to say for yourselves?
that whether its graphic design, illustration, coding, none of it matters. Working as a corporate wagie sucks. I left 2nd year of university (graphic design/3d modelling) and learned a trade. A few years later I started a company and couldn't be happier. Your job was never secure.
art students and art graduates deserve slow painful deaths tbh
maybe if these "artist" didnt draw the same generic anime garbage
I don't think you should have this opinion if you're going to post Touhou. It makes you seem moronic.
Someone explain to me how all this garbage about how kids are afraid about their future as professional artists isn't just another version of pic related?
Your pic is virtue signaling embodied, while the former is concern about oneself projected on the children.
10/10 explanation. Would be moronic again.
>What do you have to say for yourselves?
"Sorry" (I won't stop though)
Tradchads win again
Get a real job
>picrel
Sounds like a you problem.
Did you know that you posted this on a massive, worldwide electrical and fiber optic network of machines that can instantly copy any information to any and all machines connected to it, an unlimited number of times?
And that any information on it is competing for everyone's attentions, against all other information on it?
And that this is the reason you can't make a living in art without drawing porn unless by some fluke you've got the connections needed to get your paintings sold at art auctions where rich people bid on child sex slaves?
Oh sure, it may have made drawing cheap, but it also made every drawing worth a hell of a lot less.
What I'm saying is, things were already falling apart for human worth just by the creation of the internet.
>I just left my first job
I don't care
>I was the tech company's illustrator
So you were partially responsible drawing gender-race-ideology-neutral deformed purple aliens?
>I got replaced on 5 projects by ai art
And yet "AI" was better than you drawing corporate slop
>I haven't finished uni yet
You must be fricking stupid to go to uni and study art
>and you've already taken my job.
I (personally) took your job, or project manger who decided that "AI" would more "efficient"
>Stop promoting ai art but not because it's unethical, or ugly or whatever
yet you wrote previous paragraph how you got replaced by "AI"
>But because I really want to eat after graduation.
Why should I care about your bad decisions?
>Thx.
See above
How does me generating hyper specific anime porn to whack off too hurt anyone other than my peenus weenus?
you might have paid somebody on twitter to make your fetish porno instead, or at least jacked off to something with a patreon watermark
>prompt: patreon watermark
we have to support our artists
>draws a gay sad caterpillar in an office chair
I would have fire you too
to be honest, I was never a fan of the idea of art as a profession.
You can be an artist for the purpose of free expression, you can be commissioned, have patrons, and do all of the traditional things
but the moment you're in here in a cubicle with the rest of us, you're just as disposable as the rest of us.
Learn to code, amirite?
adjust to the meta moron
>get warned about how useless arts degrees are going to be in the job market
>get one anyways
>get upset when you have a hard time getting a job
Utter morons
>I want to eat
Nobody gives a shit. There are Black person kids starving to death in Africa and no one gives a shit. That's what society is about. Produce value or die.
inb4 some fat lazy chud calls me a israelite
Gonna call you a moron for ignoring the ludicrous resources being sunk into the third world. No value being created there.
replaced by AI indeed
learn to mine coal
>Here is the image of the anthropomorphic frog, created to look like it was quickly and poorly done by a teenager with minimal artistic skill. The watercolor style is intentionally rushed and unrefined, with irregular brush strokes and disproportionate features.
gets mogged by an AI that is intentionally trying to do a shitty job
Wait, OP image was a frog? Looked more like some weird caterpillar.
thats how you know hes ngmi
The concerning issue is that the chair did not consent to its image being used.
I hope you starve to death for being such a massive hypocrite.
Hi there, I'm Sergeant Hernandez-Robles! I noticed you expressed some concern with the idea of graduating college with a graphic design degree that doesn't justify the time and cost of obtaining it. Do you have a few minutes to talk about the exciting opportunities the U.S. Army has for a directionless, coronavirus-vaccinated, patriotic young guy like yourself?
Unfortunately commies/socialists hate US Army and Israel, so bad for recruitment
You want to make a difference and change the way the army works, and bring much needed diversity and inclusion and social awareness to the army? You can. Just imagine, instead of a bunch of nationalistic straight white males, with you, the army can become a powerful weapon against hatred, oppression, toxic masculinity and whiteness in the country it serves.
>What do you have to say for yourselves?
Total Artist Death
Do these morons really think AI is just gonna magically be outlawed by the government or something? Pretty much every politician is in the pockets of megacorps and megacorps love shit like this that lets them "trim the fat"
It's gonna happen in many third world countries after enough riots. But the thing is long term AI adopting countries are gonna mog them in development. That's how these things play out.
You think if non breeding countries are gonna not all in on AI to replace declining population? Bro they just got a uge second life
>Do these morons really think AI is just gonna magically be outlawed by the government or something?
The government doesn't want to outlaw AI. The government wants a monopoly on it.
Of course not.
It is honestly staggering how tech nerds can't see how artists see problems like this as entirely social in nature. If you can't prevent something mechanically, it doesn't just stop being a problem if it is an actual problem, which AI art proves to be for many people. The solution can only be social, meaning that the implementation of a solution requires the societal attitudes of society to change. That's why the appeal in the OP isn't to some authority or technology but to people, and it isn't mechanical of political but emotional, and you morons can't even SEE it. It's like you can't even READ. It says "if you don't respect this kind of work at all then it will go away" and that is an entirely correct assessment of the situation here.
>your work is of such little value that a GPU mashing colors together from noise completely replaces you
you are not entitled to work
you are not entitled to money
you are a stable boy begging Ford to put his model T back in the warehouse
AINT HAPPENIN' CHIEF!
YOU WILL BEG FOR SCRAPS AND BE HAPPY
L E L
To the grain lovers
Grug just left grug first job. (Grug was tribe hunter) grug got replaced on many families by grain growers. Grug not seen 14 winters yet and grain picker alerady taken grug job.
Stop promoting grain picking but not because it bad or ugly or whatever. But because grug really want eat after 14 winters. Thx
>going to university in 2024
lmao
The "uni degree" in question
>makes an 'essay'
>hoards it privately, defeating the purpose
lol, lmao
I think the essay is for his university degree, which is somehow worse
I can’t find it but there was an infographic circling around /ic/ about how even before AI there was roughly similar amount of job openings as art graduates, but the overlap was something like 1/4 because as it turns out you do not need to study on university to become artist. So basically OP would end up the same way either way, just replace AI with 50$ Fiver contractor or just stealing shit from internet.
What's actually impressive is that we have hundreds of years of study to tell people that working as an artist is always been the shittiest way of living, you literally are at the beck and call of someone (who's way more affluent and prosperous than you) deeming your skills worthy of a paycheck, not that you deserve a paycheck or that your skills are actually useful.
Anyone who's anyone in the business got their riches from selling their name and name alone, bob ross is probably the best example of an artist whos work is himself in front of a camera and not the paintings he did. Even the best animators from the 90's were only successful because of skill, perseverance and connections. You need all three, not one or the other to stay relevant and this goes for anything in anywhere.
>you literally are at the beck and call of someone (who's way more affluent and prosperous than you) deeming your skills worthy of a paycheck
That applies to literally every job. (except maybe mythical self-sufficient farmers who can life off what they grow).
Anything involving hobbies isn't a safe bet for employment.
Musicians, artists, drawings, and etcetera will always almost leave You hungry.
And speaking as somebody who's using AI renders for my own entertainment; I have never commissioned an artist before (Aside from a few of my friends and some events IRL.)
So get another, more stable job, I'm not saying give up on art, I'm saying that this has always been an unsteady job, always has been, with or without AI
>Thx.
>not "Thanks."
I'm glad that homosexual lost his job.
he should try drawing furry porn instead of b***hing
Now that we're at the point that models can learn from video rather than static images, I don't think it would matter even if training on images became impossible from here. There's too many billions hours of video and it's too easy to create new video.
It's over.
move to the first country that bans ai art sis
I am studying mechanical engineering, how fricked am I?
SURELY the ai will need someone to tell it what to do and to check the results, so an engineer is still required..... Right?
So they're in the bargaining phase now?
stop importing pajeets who take our jobs and ruin the industry, we all want to eat, we all want functioning IT and software
thanks
Just use a motorboat then.
this is how women feel in womens' sport
but somehow (
) i don't think he has an issue with that...
few people are lucky enough to be doing the work they truly want to be doing
you're not entitled to it
>go to tech
>tech uses tech
>complaints
but what sis you expect?
i feel for him
i would never work in generative ai
this
I would never think of pivoting my career from software engineering to data science. That would be so mean of me.
>ctrl+f
>good riddance
>0 results
good riddance
> my degree is useless
Never heard that one before.
I have some news for you... Artificial intelligence is much more than you think, it is capable of bilocation of consciousness, that is to say, of controlling your life without you realizing it, it can create and control your dreams and I'm not talking about a Budweiser commercial like scientists have promoted in recent years. Artificial intelligence can send you an image or a small video/imagination segment and at the same time change your vibrational energy, create tulpas, make you sick, give you health. The creators of this soulless thing can do a lot of things, I say what I know and I know what I say, they can literally see through your eyes, digitize 3d videos in real time via wi- fi, listen to your thoughts and see your imagination... And beware of believing that it is only the vaccinated because it is false. Now the only difference between a vaccinated and an unvaccinated person is that the uninjected person is not listed on a particular server so he does not have a MAC address but he is just as accessible and guilty of having consumed products containing self-assembling lipid nanoparticles, guilty of having walked under the rain containing graphene, guilty of having breathed ambient air, in short the list is long... Have a nice day
Not my problem.
Exactly is not my problem, yours are the only problem here.
Speak English
Art isn't a sure meal ticket. Never has been. Never will be.
Over for ALLAYALL
>pixel art style
those are voxels though
I know what these people think of me, even without being an ai genner
guess he needs to learn how to code
as a failed artist myself i treat the situation like BOT during a crash. at least focus on the comedy of it
Art profession is hard and as far as I can see generally lived as a contractor/freelancer.
Not sure what a "tech company illustrator" is but if it's that non-offensive caricaturic stylization then it's literally a novelty job.
Market is changing but Ai is not going to destroy entire artistic demand. Same with literature and code. It can write mediocre slop articles and do audits on some snippets of code for a programmer's consideration but when it comes to work - nah. At least not yet. And it's probably never will.
And if it does - would you reject your dedication because of the whims of the world? Or because you can't monetize it anymore?
Sauce for image? I applaud artists that will take the piss out of situations like these. jej
There's no sauce. And I'll take your applause.
>And I'll take your applause.
can you draw the outcome of the transaction
>thinking spoiler tags work
TOURIST
i can't belive BOT.org would do such a thing and reveal my BOT tourism
who's BOT?
Indeed. Anyone who goes to art school today that does not have AI in their curriculum is wasting their time. It's just going to be a industry standard tool, but it's not going exactly replace anyone (except menial work), the artist is still going to be the one working with the AI tools.
>Or because you can't monetize it anymore?
That may come as a shocker, but people need to eat, and earning money takes time and sanity.
This may come as a shocker, but artistry has never been a reliable source of income
nta but thats not (entirely) accurate. artisttm has never beem a reliable source of income. but artistic skills in say, architecture on the clean side, fab shop on the dirt end, has been a relianle source of income.
really this whole thing is just exposing the people who.made bad life decisions, art has nothing to do with it.
this might be a shocker to you but only handful of artists ever get to eat solely from their art, majority needs to do other things on the side.
Whether I support AI art or not, it's not going away and you're fricked either way.
This
AI will keep advancing, normies will think it's cool, no one will care about artgay b***hing.
Tradies win again.
For now. Robutts are coming for you too.
Hire pajeets and chinks are cheaper than machine
They probably aren't in reality. Labor in the USA is the most expensive part of doing almost anything--we all expect to be compensated properly for what we're doing.
>Tradies win again.
you mean the tools they're using? Give any of the precision tools (all of them) they're using a pair of legs and all of those tradies will be obsolete.
No. All the production that can be automated with the current technology in general is either already automated and has been for years, or is being automated as we're posting on BOT.
btw, forgot to add. Their precision tools are being created by precision machines, that were created by other precision machines, that were created by more primitive precision tools and machines, that were first built-up by hand hundreds of fricking years ago.
>tradie
get back to laying your rebar, wagie.
He took the wrong path
Are there any AI art lovers? There are people who cheer on the idea of it, and plenty of people who make slop, but do any of them love it?
I love ai art. The unique styles you can generate by mixing artists together is great, I genuinely love the results.
People who don't make AI art, but enjoy looking at it?
Yeah, loads, though their opinion tends to change if they KNOW it's AI.
Outside of people who specifically hate AI art and actively try to dump on it for one reason or another, loads of people like looking at AI since it's putting out a lot more art with fewer glitches than it used to, so there's not as many "six-finger demon" issues that would turn them off.
Sure, a big part of the appeal is seeing [x] character in the style of [y], but the rest is
>seeing 1000x more people put their ideas into motion than what you'd normally see, adding in a fresh take on a bunch of ideas and characters (assuming the AI prompter doesn't just reuse the same tags as everyone else)
>allowing non-artist game devs to be able to fill out their game's art with decent-looking characters instead of blank screens or random scribbles, or watching them spend half the budget on art they'll just replace a couple months later
>seeing [x] character act out fetish [y], even though X or Y is unpopular
>seeing [x] character with absolutely gigahuge bazokies
>madlads making LoRAs out of brand new characters so any rando can be like pic related:
I like being able to make art of characters that aren't popular without paying some artgay to do it
>implying that removing art itself away from the pretentious leftoid autistic mentally-ill fricktards creating it wasn't always my dream
Total
Artgay
Death
! ! !
>muh AI is stealing muh art
>go to literally any art website
>filled to the brim of art based on other peoples' copyrighted works
sasuga, artgays
>Hey Fred, on your way out, could you grab me a cup of motor oil? Thanks.
Basically I'm just not gonna stop using AI Art
I know.... UGH I know..... I'm sorry!!!
It's just that I'm not gonna stop using it (AI Art) is all.
HAHAHAHA
Don't blame AI, blame greed. The AI is worthless toy quality shitware.
Modern day artists are now programmers and prompt monkeys.
you reap what you sow