This. Fricking moron. >anon, we see there is a year gap on your resume >oh you got burned out with working at 40 and just stopped doing it for year?
Of course nobody is going to trust you to show up and commit to working for them. Hiring and training are super expensive, so companies only want to hire people that they have done faith will stick around for years, and if you're so mentally doable and financially well off that you can afford to just stop working whenever things are too hard for you then good fricking luck.
That’s bullshit. That guy probably worked 24/7 and had a meltdown, I’ve seen it myself. Pretty common nowadays unless you’re stacking shelves and work ends when you exit the room.
I had a 2 year gap and said my parents died and I was able to find a job. My parents didn't die but I knew I had to give a bs reason like that. Gaps aren't a big deal if you actually get the interview
I had a 1 year gap in work history and told an interviewer my dad died 2 months ago and she lectured me about how her company only wants the best of the best
It's a grocery that hires disabled trannies. I never heard back from them
That’s bullshit. That guy probably worked 24/7 and had a meltdown, I’ve seen it myself. Pretty common nowadays unless you’re stacking shelves and work ends when you exit the room.
Just put into the resume that you had a shabbatical (israeli) or that you were working in a startup for stonks or on an own idea. Just lie anything to hide the mental breakdown which is obviously a red flag. I would hire a woman before hiring a man with a mental breakdown past. And on pol that means I would never hire him.
Idc as long as someone can do the job and make my life easier. I don't own the business I just improve it and do the tasks needed as a senior dev. I'd rather have someone with 17 years of exp and highly capable that quit for a year since he worked for a shit company that burned him out than bootcamp gays, diversity hires or other idiots who only market and shill themselves up.
As long as someone can get the work done in a sustainable way taking time that is within reason then I won't complain much.
>he was working in IT for 17 years >still needs to look for a job
how?
they all always talk about how they make 6 figs from their first offer
I could retire if I worked even 10 years of making 100k and he worked 17 years probably making twice as much or more
on one hand I'm glad that it gets worse for IT people since they've been so obnoxious for so long on the other I makes me mad since all those jobs go to indians who are disgusting
6 figs is just 1.5x the average in US at the moment. If it's a higher cost of living state / area it is just slightly above the average.
> You could retire making 100k in Poland every year
Also western pure tech jobs go more to Poland than India since they can deliver better quality while not as expensive as west Europeans or Americans.
https://i.imgur.com/ASUYnUb.png
>they all always talk about how they make 6 figs from their first offer >t. believing memes on the internet
The average salary is 71k in leafbucks.
>Your first job after graduating university pays ~50k >after 10-15 years you make 100k >then you either get promoted to management or you get get laid off >now you have to retrain for another career
Software is unironically worse than an average office job. The problem is the people that go into software have low self esteem. They think making 100k after working in an industry for 10-15 years is an accomplishment. You can unironically make more as a high school science teacher in Canada. You should only do coding if you want to spend your free time on weekends practicing for job interviews:
It takes a lot longer getting into management roles and a good salary with a traditional economics or law degree. A lot more networking and dicksucking required. If you aren't autistic and actually competent as a dev or in IT you will have an easier time getting into management than other areas of the workplace. Since those other areas are much more competitive.
Why are all you idiots assuming this guy just up and told every recruiter that he took a mental health leave? I took a year off and have half this guys experience and i found a better paying job really quickly, making quarter million. Im in the same industry.
How he got laid off doesnt matter, a year gap can be a red flag but if he has solid experience it usually doesn’t matter at all if you’re a dev. None of you have any fricking clue what you’re talking about. His only fault was getting laid off for mental health leave. Sorry you’re all fricking losers who wanna slave away your entire lives and never take a break.
>17 years exp >unemployed for one year >unhireable
good god these linkedin spawn are weak-willed, its no suprise. this is what happens when you make a lifetime out of sucking up to antiquated institutions. one day they pull the carpet from under your feet and you cant think independently.
It feels great to use AI to accomplish in one minute what it takes a decade for this low IQ reddit normie to achieve.
God is good
>someone who doesn’t play nice
Stfu you tourist normie shit, go frick yourself. Work used to be about getting shit done, but now it’s about playing the social game because we live in a gynocentric dystopia where every step of life and society is catered towards female preference at every step. Frick this gay heard mentality hire my friends/who I like once I get more power attitude, the corporate environment and military are pozzed to all hell now.
>no I don't make friends at work and I hate everyone else around me and other guys don't like me because they can correctly tell I'm a homosexual
Okay bud. Stay unemployed. I don't really care if you die, in fact I would be happy if you did.
What kind of israeli corporate bootlicker mentality is this? You know before COVID there were tens of thousands of non megaisraelited companies doing very well with <100 employees.
What bubble do you live in where referrals matter? Corporate asked us for referrals. If only 5% make a referral that would be over 10,000 referrals. We have 8 slots open for the role. And we’re definitely NOT hiring the best referrals.
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Sorry I don't listen to ugly fat NEETs as a rule
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filter /fOmoYMD87WByRPkg7g6vog==/
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that’s what I thought dothead
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Why didn't he just put the clay head back?
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this reminds me, know how you create an atheist/agnostic? you tell them to read the bibles/religious texts of the many religions there exist in this world.
I wrote over 30,000 lines for my game this year, I use GPT4 constantly and it non-stop fails. Basically brainlet Black folk need not apply to video game development, it's the hardest form of art on the planet and that's why it's the most respected.
Chat GPT has forced me to look up a lot of documentation.. Honestly Ive learned a tremendous amount using it in spite of the shit, trash tier code it spews out.
People with bad mental health don't belong in white collar work. Go stock shelves at Walmart or turn a wrench with Jose the ex-con. Just don't expect us to hire you or give you welfare or let you live on the street.
If you just put “sabbatical” or something no one will care (I’ve done it). Just have a BS story about you spent time doing, obv don’t say you were dealing with a mental breakdown.
Exactly what some westerner morons don't understand that all Eastern Europeans do is that forced love doesn't exist. Yes you can force your boss to give you paid leave, but now he'll nitpick your work until he has grounds to fire you.
Fricking liberal idiots.
>Mental health breakdown burnout
Lmao.
This guy is a giant homosexual.
I'm 41 in the same industry and I still have recruiters banging my door down like when I was 25.
"Special" not being a weak homosexual Black person is now considered "special" showing up to work for 40h a week is now considered "special" holyshit the west is fricking done.
Don't go after the big firms. You can make a killing maintaining and updating systems for small firms that don't want to change how they've been working for the last 10+ years. I'm making $125k by running sql scripts for an engineering firm because I'm the only one who can make sense of their database.
This. Fricking moron. >anon, we see there is a year gap on your resume >oh you got burned out with working at 40 and just stopped doing it for year?
Of course nobody is going to trust you to show up and commit to working for them. Hiring and training are super expensive, so companies only want to hire people that they have done faith will stick around for years, and if you're so mentally doable and financially well off that you can afford to just stop working whenever things are too hard for you then good fricking luck.
I'm wanting to do sql work, but the only work experience I have is best buy and a bachelors degree in mis. No one wants to interview me since everyone wants two years of work experience.
learn the market learn supply and demand. I write cobol and C. i make 175k and live in the midwest. Lol there is probably 8 people in the world that can replace me, and they are all retiring. mmm nice and jeet proof.
don't let someone like me find out, I'll snatch that b***h
Just lie.
Most places don't even call references, if they do give them your friends phone number or a burner cell phone that you own.
HR is full of dumb b***hes who are lazy, work around them
it depends on the job. I'll interview and sniff you out in 5 seconds.
thats big money. the amount of legacy industries still using this shit is crazy. most businesses are out of date completely except for silicon valley saas bullshit.
The types of systems used with these languages just fkn work, and work well for huge transaction processing and huge file processing needed. I've watched them try to replace it and watched it fail time and time again.
there's no guarantee you'll get any customers, just because you start your own business. tons of people are mighty surprised when they start their own business and suddenly the customers are a total no-show.
random question. How bad will have to search for crappy low level job with being out of work for 3 years? I worked in store for almost decade before it got shutdown. I was too depressed to go work again.
Just lie.
Most places don't even call references, if they do give them your friends phone number or a burner cell phone that you own.
HR is full of dumb b***hes who are lazy, work around them
>kek this, big corps outsource recruitment vetting. It's already paid for by the time they ask for references, they will be checked.
Absolutely, If you work or apply for a reputable company, they will crawl up your ass to validate, to include criminal and financial background and usually a piss test. I used Hireright for ages.
>How bad will have to search for crappy low level job with being out of work for 3 years?
If you have skills, start your own consulting business, then you do not have to worry about the gaps. If you do not have the skills, look for a new field because just like every time this field crashes, you have to compete with highly skills people who got laid off and will work for cheap. Cream floats to the top and if you're not cream, you get dumped.
Blunt honesty - you do not need hopes and dreams, you need reality. You're better off focusing on a new field. IT will always be a low cost meat grinder for the low skills shit. You'll always face outsourcing and some jeet who will do your job for 20 cents on the dollar. Get into the trades or HVAC. Get skilled up and then you can always work and do side work. IT is dead for low skilled roles.
Lol, lmao. Just started a union position in an unkillable field this morning. I can't wait to see this guy begging for change on a median. The recession is real, I know many companies in telecommunications cutting heads left and right. Right or wrong most of the cuts are dead fricking weight.
Just lie, find a company that went under and a close friend to use as your former manager. My last background check I had to hand feed them everything, I used the trick above except it was true, acquisition instead of going under but when they couldn't find anything I just gave them my bros number that worked with me but my current manager was giving HR hell for not getting me immediately on so that helps.
yeah, welcome to my world.. after 30 if you're not in your job position then you're unhireable in tech field because you're "too slow". All this remote shit is bullshit too. everyone tells me use upwork, fiver, etc.. yeah, except chinks/poojits got giant scams going on those sites where they pump up few profiles they own to many stars and only those profiles get all jobs while yours isn't even visitied. I get poojits/chinks contacting me all the time on discord trying to get access to my linkedin/upwork/fiver profiles
what do you mean they say you look off? were you a former rolly backpack anime kid that still has weird fashion? dress and talk like a normie man and totally lie on your resume. deceive them.
My plan to use my CS BS is to larp as a troon and a "good autist" for all those fat DEI points. These people are unfire-able and are autohires to virtue signalling woke complanies.
>dress and talk like a normie man and totally lie on your resume. deceive them.
Good luck with that, a plan for failure.
>Employers keep telling me that I look “off” and seem like a liability
Even though you thought purple hair, nose piercing, face tattoos and breast implants on a guy was trendy, turns out it hinders job searches. Whoda Thunk?
>Is there any other way for me to make money?
Suck dicks or sell mothers and children the crack rock >7 years gap
And you're wondering why nobody will hire you? Fricking moron lmao. Make up some bullshit and stop being autistic.
what do you mean they say you look off? were you a former rolly backpack anime kid that still has weird fashion? dress and talk like a normie man and totally lie on your resume. deceive them.
No I just wear gym clothes and a baseball hat for most of the day. Or a polo shirt and golf shorts
>Employers keep telling me that I look “off” and seem like a liability
Even though you thought purple hair, nose piercing, face tattoos and breast implants on a guy was trendy, turns out it hinders job searches. Whoda Thunk?
Stop giving the ick in your interviews. They can probably tell you go on hate websites to hangout with frens, which is what we’re all here for - love you fren
Honestly I just steal shit now and it's the best thing to have ever happend. I make more, don't pay any taxes and I make npc's seethe and I guess yo homosexuals as well. Get fricked cause I'm taking your shit.
>he was working in IT for 17 years >still needs to look for a job
how?
they all always talk about how they make 6 figs from their first offer
I could retire if I worked even 10 years of making 100k and he worked 17 years probably making twice as much or more
on one hand I'm glad that it gets worse for IT people since they've been so obnoxious for so long on the other I makes me mad since all those jobs go to indians who are disgusting
>they all always talk about how they make 6 figs from their first offer >t. believing memes on the internet
The average salary is 71k in leafbucks.
>Your first job after graduating university pays ~50k >after 10-15 years you make 100k >then you either get promoted to management or you get get laid off >now you have to retrain for another career
Software is unironically worse than an average office job. The problem is the people that go into software have low self esteem. They think making 100k after working in an industry for 10-15 years is an accomplishment. You can unironically make more as a high school science teacher in Canada. You should only do coding if you want to spend your free time on weekends practicing for job interviews:
It doesnt take much effort to make 100k after just a few years even in leafland. You have to be a really lazy piece of shit for it to take 10-15 years to reach six figures as a dev
>I could retire if I worked even 10 years of making 100k
if you file as single you pay $20-40k in federal income tax so you can't save 1 mil after 10 years. I only started making 100k after 4 years of working in the IT industry
he says years worked rather than current relevant skills. He probably burned out because he doesn't have the ability to pick something new up which all the people he's competing against know
Learned that the hard way in my 20s. Salaried job (no overtime) working 90 hours a week. Highest performance in my business unit by a mile. Laid off anyways while useless people got to keep their jobs lmao.
Never take work seriously bros. Life is about so much more.
I think most people get thrown under the bus at some point, happened to me as well. That's when I decided to work for myself. I don't make bank, but it's more than enough to get by, and I don't have to deal with the bullshit anymore.
bruh, that's even worse. the trades have crazy quotas and you have to work like a dog to fulfill them. people who just stupidly say "the trades will be your salvation!" have never worked as a tradie or are one of the few who made it in that field.
>17 years of experience, 1 year without a job and not even thinking about coding some side project that makes money
I make 2000 usd per month from simple image optimisation website that is based on open source js code that was coded by Russian for 60 bucks, because I can’t code lmao. These are truly npcs.
What’s the name of your company or a competing company? Why don’t you homosexuals buy an ad so you can recruit a fully capable white people to help your company?
Please God, Allah, vishnu, shiva, Buddha, quetzlcoatl, odin, zeus, and even the israelite one (satan). Combine your powers and holocaust all tech scum thank you in advance
Now hiring professional shoplifters.
Must be able to only steal $900 or less in one go.
Must be able to clean out a register in 10 seconds.
Baggy clothes with many pockets for concealing items is a requirement on the job.
Fat people encouraged to apply for being able to hide items in their fatty folds.
We are an equal opportunity shoplifting company, apply today.
When the plandemic was in peak psyops and people were moving to remote locations, I laughed my ass off. These dumbshits thought that their north american employer was going to pay north american wages for you to be a remote worker? really? You that stupid? REALLY? !!! All these people did was fine tuned the remote SOP's for the smaller orgs that do not already outsource. Then the laughable moment when the employers said you need to be back in the office. These fricks mortgaged up in remote places that have zero local jobs and now, trying to compete with jeets for remote jobs. The report back to office was a rug pull that you're not smart enough to figure out. These guys assumed you would land another gig, you quit and no severance costs for the employer. Now, there are a glut of people looking and since the job can be done remote, why not do it from an eastern bloc nation or BRICs for 10 or 20 cents on the dollar?
Back to paying a mortgage, now with the economy heading south (expect full rug pull if Trump gets in) people are dumping their vacation homes cause they cannot afford them. You will struggle to sell your place, cannot find remote work that will generate enough income and the local dollar general has 50 people applying for the one job post for minimum wage.
If Trump gets in, which is a strong potential, the DS and the left will be on 24x7 talking how bad the economy is and how fricked everything is the week after he is inaugurated. You cannot go back and rent and work at your employer because 99% of the job roles were make work no skills jobs and now that tech needs to drive a profit and produce, companies are stream lining and will use the downturn to purge even more.
All so boring and predictable. Look at IBM and their workforce, same bullshit they did. Use to be a workforce of 200K in the north americas, they offshored that shit and gutted those jobs. Now, you have jeets onshore that work dirt cheap too.
Yea, the idea that Google would keep paying you $300k to work in Montana or Tulum indefinitely was sort of ridiculous, even though, it must be said, Google themselves were saying that.
I'm glad I stayed close to a major metro city, although ironically I landed a stable remote job and am considering exiting, but not to Montana.
>people are dumping their vacation homes cause they cannot afford them. You will struggle to sell your place
Good. Boomers and Californians deserve a taste of their own medicine
> going to Brics
China and Russia are hard af atm and not worth it. Only India is relevant and you don't want to outsource to India. It comes with a huge cost in the form of meetings, needing dedicated employees to deal with the Indians, quality problems and so on.
It's more popular to source to eastern Europe at the moment since in some places a dev there makes 20k euro locally, so you get the quality ones offering only 25-30k a year. Yeah its twice as much as Indians but 6 people who speak English and can actually do math > 12 Indian morons.
Complete remote is always a meme. Sure you do have weeks that you don't need to be in office. You still need to be there for important meetings, discussions and presenting advices to management (and potentially board if its a 50-200 fte company).
> IBM
Doesn't really make anything new these days. Its main clients are those who decided to use SAS and then later on became glued to their cloud. Most of that company is legacy support for giga clients.
Yea, the idea that Google would keep paying you $300k to work in Montana or Tulum indefinitely was sort of ridiculous, even though, it must be said, Google themselves were saying that.
I'm glad I stayed close to a major metro city, although ironically I landed a stable remote job and am considering exiting, but not to Montana.
Just get something that is 1 or 2 days per week in office. Plenty of jobs are like that even in non software (such as accounting).
>Complete remote is always a meme. Sure you do have weeks that you don't need to be in office. You still need to be there for important meetings, discussions and presenting advices to management (and potentially board if its a 50-200 fte company)
fully remote is possible and realistic, anyone saying otherwise is a moron boomer
>It's more popular to source to eastern Europe at the moment since in some places a dev there makes 20k euro locally, so you get the quality ones offering only 25-30k a year. Yeah its twice as much as Indians but 6 people who speak English and can actually do math > 12 Indian morons.
pajeets code is ALWAYS fricking awful. every. fricking. time. eastern euros are more popular with those who freelance a lot because theyre cheap and they actually code well instead of having pajeet moronic throwup that """works""". when you get a real dev on and he has to go through the pajeet code, then youre going to end up paying to redo that shit. theres a lot less rework, if any, needed when hiring eastern euros because its not coded like a literal fricking monkey.
source: have hired indians to code shit before, and ive been the guy reworking pajeet code. its fricking awful. every fricking time. i have never, once, EVER seen good pajeet code.
> pajeet code
It always comes with 0 documentation as well. Sometimes little documentation isn't a problem because the solution makes sense and you can explore as you go, but with Indians this is never the case and you always stumble upon mysterious decisions. Decisions that are so bad and often way more complicated than just doing the logical right thing. It's as if they go out of their way to implement the worst solution even if it takes them 40x the implementation time of the best solution.
>It's as if they go out of their way to implement the worst solution even if it takes them 40x the implementation time of the best solution.
this. i dont understand it. and it was all formatted with a moron with no coding style. random spaces added before function declarations, the opening and closing brackets are in random ass places, some variable names are indented 3 extra spaces randomly, its as if the whole thing is to try to be as bad as possible. i really dont understand how its even possible to code that badly.
>never ever hire a pajeet to code, ever.
if only the people who actually hire people would understand this
they see how little they cost and think they can't be that bad
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>they see how little they cost
they always end up costing 3-5x more because of reworking when you actually need to do something else with the code and the jeet is long gone
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>they always end up costing 3-5x more
yes I know but that isn't on paper for the idiots to see
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It costs less in the hiring fiscal year because they save $20-50k on each new hire. The long term costs balloon over several years. By the time they become a huge problem, no one gets held accountable. They'll just lay off half the workforce and rehire new people for cheaper wages. Every few years, over and over again, making it worse every time.
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>By the time they become a huge problem, no one gets held accountable
depends on how fast theyll be using the code after its done. if theyre hiring a jeet to give a customer a demo then hire someone to actually make it and there needs to be a new demo relatively soon, those ballooned costs will be realized pretty fast
source: literally had to rewrite a ton of fricking shit in the past 3 months with deadline crunches because of said product demos and regurgitated diarrhea original codebase
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my boss keeps telling us how easily replaceable we are by offshore developers lol.
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>my boss keeps telling us how easily replaceable we are by offshore developers lol.
You are....
I love this mentality. I use to love watching reality his you in the face when you get called into a meeting with your boss and someone from HR. It goes right long with the "tribal knowledge" where you think you know all of these secrets, but in reality, everyone is replaceable.
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ever hire a pajeet to code, ever. >if only the people who actually hire people would understand this >they see how little they cost and think they can't be that bad
Depends - I have worked with India for 20 years. You get what you pay for.. Innovation and thinking out of the box is a non standard skill there. Their culture is driven by decades of call center script mentality, so anything that deviates from that is a challenge BUT, I can get top notch coders in India that will work circles around western employees for 40 cents on the dollar all day long. If you need a code monkey, 10 to 20 cents on the dollar. You're not paying them to think, you're paying them to code.
You need to manage those resources, so you have to keep a leadership team on the western side. You need solid KPIs and SLAs and manage your ship and hire thru solid companies. Is there garbage skilled resources there? Fricking absolutely - tons fake their resumes and certs. Those shops are all over on every block (I have spent a couple of years working in India as well) but, if you manage right and run a tight ship, you can leverage quality resources and make money. If it was all garbage, you wouldn't have the 98% of the fortune 100 outsourcing and you do. Those that complain about it are not in a position to fix the shit in their org or coping.
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>BUT, I can get top notch coders in India that will work circles around western employees
apparently you are the only one. All the ones I ever worked with only produced shit I had to fix that never worked..
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Indian IQs are two standard deviations above white IQs. That's why cumskins have trouble understanding Hindu code--it's just too far above their level for comprehension. The average Indian makes $130k, more than whites by far, even more than israelites, who are one SD above whites. An Indian with 100 IQ corresponds to a white with a 70 IQ, moronic. The average white is moronic by Indian standards.
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>Indian IQs are two standard deviations above white IQs. That's why cumskins have trouble understanding Hindu code
everyone who has ever seen jeet code knows how fricking moronic of a coping homosexual you are
no rupee for you
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dotheads have the smallest brains in the World, Africans look like sophisticated noblemen next to the average jeet.
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>Indian IQs are two standard deviations above white IQs.
KeK- GR B8 M8
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>The average Indian makes $130k
P.S. I hired Indians as cheap as $100 a month just two years ago. Keep trying though, it's entertaining.
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>an Indian with 100 IQ corresponds to a white with a 70 IQ
So the smartest hinpoos are mentally moronic?
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The average Indian is a shit eating moron in a muddy village. The average Indian IQ is 82 which is virtually moronic. This is why Indians flee their nation and no one wants to live there. It's full of shit eating morons.
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>even israelites who are 1 SD above
Ah, there it is. Nested JIDF shilling
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>>BUT, I can get top notch coders in India that will work circles around western employees >apparently you are the only one. All the ones I ever worked with only produced shit I had to fix that never worked..
You have to manage your resources, period. Track work and develop / maintain quality. Purge the crap. It's the same as any employee. You get garbage if you have a shit contract and you or your leadership doesnt manage them. Key Performance Indicators - learn them use them. Service Level Agreements - make sure you have solid ones in your contract.
Plenty of solid talent in India. Plenty of garbage too.
2 months ago
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lol… saar we all about the KPI saar
Post hand rajesh
>random spaces in code
Proofs of copy pasta anon, they didn't code shit to nobody surprise
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yes, but its also much worse than that. the actual stuff coded is also randomly spaced and its a nightmare. this is really niche software so theres not many places they would be able to copy paste from. im honestly surprised they were able to get it done at all.
Working with CRM systems is good, most devs are too austic to have a job where they have to talk to business people a lot. Basically it ends up being pretty easy technical part but you just have to deal with borderline moronic business people constantly
Too bad they are all liberal homosexuals who voted for the very policies that destroyed their industry.
Oh well, they won't reflect or think on this at all and Trump is coming back so they can blame him and get updoots. So I guess net happiness is up and they should appreciate that.
I'm around the same age as this r*ddit gay and quit working around 9 years ago. I don't sweat it because I simply don't give a frick about this fake ass society anymore.
He's a NEET who lives at home with his parents like 90% of /misc/acks.
>He's a NEET who lives at home with his parents like 90% of /misc/acks.
Bingo. They're old af now, so I help out and keep them from withering away in a nursing home, while living rent/bill free. I had a decent amount of savings when I quit work that has lasted me all this time. I also do freelance stuff here and there when I feel like it.
I don't worship money, like so many others do, and am more concerned about living frugally while not interacting with NPC normie pieces of shit. To me, it's worth it.
Over 30 in tech.. Top KeK Good luck. The meat grinder demand younger workers whose drive and youth blind them to the reality of the meat grinder It's almost like the wall for women. You can be in your early to mids 30's but 40 and up, your fricked. Over 50? LMFAO, come on now, you know this industry age discriminates.
There is also a cycle in IT, this one will be rough, but enjoyable to see some of these worthless fricks practicing, " Would you like fries with your order"
Anyone old enough and has been in this game, especially in the US, has seen how it's a commodity. A race to the bottom. Labor arbitrage at your expense. If jeets are already in hiring roles in your org, even worse. Learn to cod AAAAACk!
Hopefully, you were not a dumbshit and saved for a rainy day, take your skills and start a business. Plenty of consulting to be done.
> drive > ambition
You clearly haven’t seen corporate America in the past 8 years. I’m not sure what most people at my company (Fortune 100) have been doing. I’ve never seen such little productivity and endless meetings about meetings.
If you’re too productive you’re rocking the boat and making everyone’s lives difficult and that’s not good for morale and optics.
>all the homosexuals defending employers >you are the problem as the employee, you just arent fit to work
completely insane buck broken mentality
employees should set what is appropriate to work not fricking managers
no i dont care about you "risk" or your shareholders or your assets
dont like it do it yourselves you stupid c**ts and stop hiring employees to exploit in the first place
It's always been this way. It's a problem now all of a sudden because it's not as rewarding as it used to be. Before there was a payoff to the humiliation ritual that is the job search and interview process. People here talk about HR b***hes a lot here too and they're a big part of that, as they love to make people grovel to get hired. But, like I said, it's only a problem when it no longer pays off.
very good news, I've spoken with plenty script monkies bragging about how their code got "thousands of blue collar workers laid off" well- learn to mine coal homosexuals, you fricking limp wristed dysgenic homosexual nerds, or just do us all a favor and die and eat dirt, fricking scum.
you guys remember how things were in 2012? i 'member. there was a lot of talk of how coding was the future, because the coders were automating everything and automating all the blue-collars out of their jobs. they actuall wanted all the blue-collar dudes to learn how to code. they actually thought that that was what was going to do the trick and save us all.
They wanted you in tech so we could use the power of unlimited budgets to push Fascism. But instead you let the trannies and minorities control that because you can’t read between the lines.
You can't eat code, focusing on service industries only is both a macro and personal mistake. Build, fix or maintain things or work downstream of something that does. For Burgers, remember WVDOH is always hiring just have to piss clean and get a cdl, on their time and money.
got laid off last year the day after christmas because my boss was a homosexual and hired someone else after telling me that i was a permanent hire. small company. took about 600 applications over 9-10 months, but i finally got one and have been working there for the past 5 months. new boss is a micromanaging frick and i have to log my hours, working a lot harder than the last job for the same pay, but i still got one.
so i get what OP is talking about. the market actually is absolutely fricking aids. people itt have made good points and hes a moron, but no its hard as frick to get a job right now for software engineers. i did get offers 4 months in for half my salary (40k) an hour and a half away, and i wouldnt take that because that was a moronic as frick offer. then they offered a few days later to only come into the office 2 days/week for 45k, i told them thats still fricking moronic. fully remote now for 80k, just like last year. same salary as my last job unfortunately.
almost 30 here, btw. github has lots of shit on it. ive also got an upwork with a shit ton of jobs over the last 6-8 years, thats how i actually landed the job i got laid off from. my work gaps are described as, well, the industry is literally fricking aids and no one would hire me.
anyone itt saying its easy is a fricking liar or applies literally all the time while already having a job.
>anyone itt saying its easy is a fricking liar or applies literally all the time while already having a job.
Quality skills with a solid portfolio makes it easier. Seeing that your an under 100K in IT in the US, no offense you're not big leagues and that's why your demand is impacted. Do you work in a fortune 50 org? Do you have more than 10 years experience/ Certs? Are you multi-skilled? If you have dime a dozen skills that are similar to all the people that have been laid off from fortune 50 orgs, you have your answer. Not trying to be a dick, but that is reality in IT and employment in general. The more in demand skills bring higher money.
80k a year moron
i tend to save between 3-5k a month depending on the expenses though living with parents rn so no rent or utilities right now but i am paying student loans
i still have student loans to pay off Black person
2 months ago
Anonymous
Take it easy, he's mentally challenged
2 months ago
Anonymous
>he's mentally challenged
ok mr. almost lowest in europe
2 months ago
Anonymous
Wow looks like I hurt your fee fees. Imagine comparing yourself to rural rednecks lmao. Romania is still highly rural while places like Germany and Spain have ghost villages because of their shit fertility rates.
I wanna make more money but idk what to do and i dont wanna work in corporate pharma labs again (currently senior chemost at a DUDE WEED and its a nice job but its only 75k). Im 34 and have 8+ years experience but i need to start doing a side hustle or branching out somrwhere else. Any suggestions?
Yes, im an analytical chemist, in pharma and in dude weed i essentially do wuality control but im starting to hit that management level of experience now. But one coworker who goes to our clients to pickup weed for testing for instance is opening his own smoke shop and has the the dropship hustler kinda mindset. You definitely get a lot more interesting people in DUDE industry especially in my niche because everyone here is all ex pharma/food/cosmetics industry labs, we do the same exact shit so its people who are chill but have to have a brain on thier heads. Our drivers constantly complain the people we pickup from (the growers, at least lower people doing most shit) are absolute stereotypical morons youd expect be working in a Marijuana industry.
These threads always interest me because before my father passed he did code mo key/IT/SAP stuff for pharma corpos, my mom sorta too but she moved to supply chain stuff later
you should go out on your own on the side. >These threads always interest me because before my father passed he did code mo key/IT/SAP stuff for pharma corpos, my mom sorta too but she moved to supply chain stuff later
you're lucky. my dad was a gambler and my mom was a prostitute.
>you're lucky
Eh my dad was half israeli so that makes me a quarter israelite but thankfully i was born in the soviet union so i have my foreskin. My crazy soviet mom, bless her heart, lets me live with her still
>takes mental health leave like a moron >gets fired for "completely unrelated" reasons only 1 month later
Some people are so fricking dumb. Just because you can cite depression in order to quit working doesn't mean you should and your boss is gonna be fuming you screwed him over like that.
If you break your leg it's a different story you have an alibi. But mental health? Lol.
Imagine being 43 and not realising that the entire economy exists for the benefit of the new pro-feudal retired/pensioner class. If you're unemployed, it is your moral duty to beat the shit out of pensioners and rob their homes. We have feudalism without the Lord's henchmen enforcing it, it is Stockholm Syndrome on a civilisation-wide scale. Just frick up some old people and take what they're stealing.
>I can't believe this is the system everyone just goes along with and doesn't question
Frick this guy, I bet he loved feeling superior to the blue collars getting automated/outsourced out of jobs for the last 50 years.
Everything in the pic still exists as small niches. The result is the same even if 1% of people cling on to small novelty markets. >who gives a shit how the code for all the apps I run came from
Exactly. Most people don't care about where anything comes from, they simply want to pay the lowest price for an acceptable quality.
Pajeets are an absolute plague.
Last year I've spent three weeks trying to get them to add an extra string array to a JSON payload, something that takes 5 minutes tops.
After three weeks they've managed to at least send some malformed garbage that I could parse out on our end.
It's interest rates.
Corpos can't get more money from government so instead they get it by getting rid off their employes.
It's nothing new, it has always worked like that.
All white males should ignore flashy generative tech and focus on image and video recognition, hardware, materials, and flight. The only generative tech you should be creating is an AI lawyer that justifies why leveling an entire village or air striking shekelsteins NGO compound was an act of self defense.
>LEARN TO CODE LENR THBO CODERHEHEH
Meanwhile I told every single person to learn carpentry, or electrical, even fricking HVAC.
Because it's the only thing in the near future that men will even be able to do because all women will take over all office jobs.
>43yo boomer >software "engineer" aka code monkey >takes paid time off for his fee fees aka nothing >probably has a massive salary, at least disproportionate to his job >company lays this fat useless eater off and no one is hiring him
Not defending israelite companies but techgays had it coming
Thousands of small shops would hire an ex Google developer at the drop of a hat.
Provided:
He moves to a lower cost of living area.
Adjusts his salary expectations.
Understands that the lower cost of living area won't be a woke liberal shithole.
sometimes i almost feel sorry for codemonkeys but then i realize 99% of them are morons/pajeets and they make way too much money
the bubble burst. go learn some real IT skills instead of pasting from chatgpt and stackexchange
>Be me, white male >Cannot find job(s) due to lower standards and affirmative action for subhumans >Finding a job and keeping a job is always difficult due to not being diverse enough >Tech buttholes always laughed at me >Haaha Anon is a loser! >Hahaha Anon blames women and affirmative action for being a loser hahahaha >I told them the truth that lesser educated and lesser skilled affirmative action subhumas get the jobs >Tell them that employers would rather hire no one than hire qualified white men >Tech buttholes: tell me they know more about me and my life than I do >Hahaha Anon must be really bad at writing resumes and interviews. >I tell them I have fricking business degrees and 3 majors, which one is HRM major. >Hahahahaha Anon must be really a fricking loser than cannot interview... get some interpersonal skills loser!
Guess what, all of these past years of abuse by tech autists... I really don't care about their problems. Tech autistics are some of the worst people on earth. These autistics are completely ego centric liars with the worst superiority complexes ever. These lowlife code monkeys always thought they could make 100+k a year scamming some start up company or some legacy company. They would only mildly grumble about the shitjeet hires and the off shoring, but refused to understand the diversity reasons why that was happening. Most of these autistic scum also supported the diversity programs to get useless Black folk, spics, and c**ts into tech. Their ego and superiority complex were so large, so they never see this coming... when I told them it was coming.
All of them can go try to compete with me to get a job at a retail store or supermarket, and we will be losers. The store would also rather hire some useless rude meritless disgusting Black person or crackhead c**t.
Welcome to the bottom, my fellow losers. It will never get better, so lose hope now, because its the hope of a better future that hurts the most.
Learn how to read Kraut.
These tech scumbags support the system. They are the ultimate boomer like creatures, who always supported the immoral system, because they had good.
To hate them is to hate every normie scumbag that fricked me over. To hate them is the same as to hate the governments, leftists, females, and other affirmative action shitbags that fricked me over. They demanded it. They wanted it. They supported it. They only had hatred and contempt for me and those like me, who were targeted before they were targeted.
They spent a decade laughing at me and telling me to go kill myself. OK, lets see if they last a decade of scrounging to make a living... of looking at their shit finances wondering if they will make it another year. Lets see how long they last before killing themselves, as they wished on others. Don't expect me to have any kindness nor respect for anyone, because I have never seen it in my life... so I don't think it exists and would not know what it looks like.
i personally am shitting down the severed necks of all the fricking associate's degree keyboard slappers who called me a lame-o for working a government job. "i have REAL talent, homosexual!" 2 years later "well reddit, i have just been laid off :(" my house was paid off before 30 btw my imaginary enemies can go frick themselves.
>took medical leave >employer realize how useless you are but can't legally fire you while on leave >wait just long enough that they can fire you after you return
Americans are servile morons. Somehow that colonial spirit is lost. Hell I go across country to alaska to work and make so much money I only have to work half the year.
>Gap in your Resume is a death sentence
Lol, what kind of ZOG mentality is this? Thinking that this kind of form is in anyway 'normal' is completely schizo and means that you're nothing more than a drone.
isn't having an open border with unlimited global competition for the same jobs while government regulation stifles any competition for the megacorporations grand?
despite reddit I feel sympathy for this user. As person who also with comp sci degree, it has been a rugpull deception. HR people lie to your face, schedule interviews then waste your time. Clown world for all I care, they made their bed now they must lie in it
i don't code. i feel bad for anyone who goes on hundreds of interviews and applications and can't get work. during the great recession, I was 20 and couldn't find a part-time job for a year. this is traumatic shit.
For a wagecuck like you maybe. If it's so traumatic blow your brains out.
I've been NEET-ing for a while and it's the best time of my life. Imagine having israeli boomer parents that kick you out lmao. American homosexuals.
Almost 30 lmao so much older than you zoom zoom. You are truly fricking pathetic I already know you will never have a family of your own.
So what exactly are you loser waging for again? Hilarious, go back to the cage.
2 months ago
Anonymous
get a load of this guy >almost 30
son, im almost 31 and let me tell you a thing or two about the way things actually work
2 months ago
Anonymous
More like you got almost 31 years of wagecuckery left lmaoooo.
And by that I mean around 40 so shoo go back to your cage or Mr. Shekelberg will berate you again. Don't worry it gets better when you turn 65.
Couldn't they just start up their own company?
Software engineers where get paid very well for amlong time, if there are 100s, I'm sure they have the bank and knowledge to start somthing.
this.
I gave up working IT.
too many pajeets flooding, too many sectors dying out and I'd rather jump in front of a train than move to the US.
Subsea NDT for me, pay is better, hours are better, life is better.
It's not AI, it's the fact that he's 43. Once you hit your 40s, you better be in a job that you know you won't lose because you become pretty much unhireable at that age. It's just not financially beneficial for a company to hire someone so close to retirement age.
He's 40 and has zero friends in his career. That's all you really need to know, if you're interviewing with 17 years of experience and not getting referrals you're a complete loser.
This too. The homosexual in OP obviously spent zero time and effort networking and believed in that "my qualifications will speak for themselves" bullshit.
It's true. Older workers not only tend to demand higher wages and benefits, but they are also going to be working for fewer years than someone younger.
this
the 43 y.o. guy applying for the job will be fussy and picky like a woman >a bloo bloo my family life >a bloo bloo my life-work balance >a bloo bloo my 8 hours are up I wanna go home now
no wonder they'd rather hire a 23 y.o. who's hungry for some money
>Is your Mom home yet?
has yours found a new "position" yet?
2 months ago
Anonymous
>>Is your Mom home yet? >has yours found a new "position" yet?
Try harder, there is a reason why your nationality is associated with jokes, your comment validated it.
Not what I meant. Should've studied business with computers as a hobby like me. I cannot create a website if my life depended on it but I hire and fire code monkeys like I wish
The US job market caters to jeets, women, and Black folk in every conceivable way and it's almost impossible to out compete them for positions even in the majority of cases where you're a better, more qualified candidate. It sucks but this is where we're at.
>Have you heard of investing? You only have to grind until 65 if you're a complete moron with your money.
That poor troon never heard or FIRE. It's a good life. Checked out of the rat race in the early fourties. Pulled back in once or twice for a fat contract, but dont even bother to anymore.
It's not even fricking hard, just stop inflating your expenses with your pay raises. The morons get a $10k/yr pay raise and immediately start spending it at sit down restaurants and a second luxury vacation.
>It's not even fricking hard,
This- live below your means. Especially in IT, for fricks sake, it's been a shit show for decades. Always the threat of outsourcing and it's a fricking meat grinder, if you're making good bucks. BUT, great pay and stack it away. I lived out of a suitcase and was a road warrior, so all of my expenses were covered by the client. Good times. Put away the cash cause you never know when you're going to get fricked, like OP's story and in IT, it's not an "If" but a "When". Most of these dolts do not get it and like you said, too busy buying funko and latest iphone, top kek. My feet are up, smoked a nice fat joint and waiting for my sugar baby to stop by.
I live in Scotland, I am not an immigrant or a moron, I have my FAC, and enjoy deerstalking on the months I don't work.
Poles and Romanians keep coming to this country though, and they always seem to fill the most menial, braindead jobs.
imagine being the "go-getters" of your country and still ending up as the shit smears in another.
your homelands must be really shit.
you're literally getting the bottom tier of our dregs
our chavs and failures
who couldn't make it in their own god damned country
so they had to go abroad
to wash your dishes or clean your toilets
all the smart and competent people stay here
make careers in international companies operating in Poland
thanks for taking our shit in btw
you're helping improve our statistics
lmao.
you fricking poles make less a month than I do in a day.
"the bottom tier of your dregs" are not the ones making enough money to leave the country and earn more than you by wiping my piss off the floor.
there's one thing you have, polack, and thats jokes.
2 months ago
Anonymous
a plane ticket to London is worth about one welfare check
you ARE getting our dregs
no one else wants to live in your kid kebab dystopia
2 months ago
Anonymous
topkek.
2 months ago
Anonymous
lmao
a Paint slide from 1999 featuring a gypsy
you really are moronic, Hamish McFricking Gregor
2 months ago
Anonymous
Actually, no, a world bank charity highlighting how fricking poor you all are.
I'd join you if my lungs weren't shot and i could get a diver certification
the cost of the certs alone was almost enough to drive me to smoking again, the NDT part was harder, that was 2 years in a college trying to stay awake while they talk about ultrasonic phased array testing, focal law and other shit you don't actually need to know.
At 43 you should be getting jobs via referrals from your network.
Company needs to hire, first question from the boss is: do you know anyone you’d recommend?
If nobody is recommending you despite having almost 20 years in the game, you’re completely shithouse and/or a social moron.
>burnout
interesting only one other post mention this, this basically means he just didn't want to work, probably live in some euro country where burnout leaves are granted.
The thing is, due to the high amount of benefits and rights people are far too reluctant to hire new people, especially old farts who are often a liability, one can hire 3 young juniors for 1/4 the wage
>mental health leave
>"why does no one want to hire me?"
kek
This. Fricking moron.
>anon, we see there is a year gap on your resume
>oh you got burned out with working at 40 and just stopped doing it for year?
Of course nobody is going to trust you to show up and commit to working for them. Hiring and training are super expensive, so companies only want to hire people that they have done faith will stick around for years, and if you're so mentally doable and financially well off that you can afford to just stop working whenever things are too hard for you then good fricking luck.
True, in my case I close to 40 and I had to tell a recruiter to leave me the frick alone.
That’s bullshit. That guy probably worked 24/7 and had a meltdown, I’ve seen it myself. Pretty common nowadays unless you’re stacking shelves and work ends when you exit the room.
I had a 2 year gap and said my parents died and I was able to find a job. My parents didn't die but I knew I had to give a bs reason like that. Gaps aren't a big deal if you actually get the interview
I had a 1 year gap in work history and told an interviewer my dad died 2 months ago and she lectured me about how her company only wants the best of the best
It's a grocery that hires disabled trannies. I never heard back from them
Just put into the resume that you had a shabbatical (israeli) or that you were working in a startup for stonks or on an own idea. Just lie anything to hide the mental breakdown which is obviously a red flag. I would hire a woman before hiring a man with a mental breakdown past. And on pol that means I would never hire him.
Recruiters/HR reps are the biggest job welfare queens ever. You don’t deserve jobs. I think you’re part of problem when it comes to job “shortages”.
Idc as long as someone can do the job and make my life easier. I don't own the business I just improve it and do the tasks needed as a senior dev. I'd rather have someone with 17 years of exp and highly capable that quit for a year since he worked for a shit company that burned him out than bootcamp gays, diversity hires or other idiots who only market and shill themselves up.
As long as someone can get the work done in a sustainable way taking time that is within reason then I won't complain much.
6 figs is just 1.5x the average in US at the moment. If it's a higher cost of living state / area it is just slightly above the average.
> You could retire making 100k in Poland every year
Also western pure tech jobs go more to Poland than India since they can deliver better quality while not as expensive as west Europeans or Americans.
It takes a lot longer getting into management roles and a good salary with a traditional economics or law degree. A lot more networking and dicksucking required. If you aren't autistic and actually competent as a dev or in IT you will have an easier time getting into management than other areas of the workplace. Since those other areas are much more competitive.
I would be much happier if we had Polish people moving here taking jobs instead of pajeets
Black person shut the frick up. Clown World corpos don’t have to make money. We just give them CIA slush funds!
Why are all you idiots assuming this guy just up and told every recruiter that he took a mental health leave? I took a year off and have half this guys experience and i found a better paying job really quickly, making quarter million. Im in the same industry.
How he got laid off doesnt matter, a year gap can be a red flag but if he has solid experience it usually doesn’t matter at all if you’re a dev. None of you have any fricking clue what you’re talking about. His only fault was getting laid off for mental health leave. Sorry you’re all fricking losers who wanna slave away your entire lives and never take a break.
>None of you have any fricking clue what you’re talking
butt hurt cope
>Why are all you idiots
were literally on bot people larp harder here than on reddit
moron
fpbp, way to make yourself completely unemployable
FPBP
no one wants to work with a nutjob
can you explain to me why youre such rat raced goy cattle who love being npcs wagecucks?
If you love your job, you never work a day in your life
This fact probably wasn’t included on his resume, and he says he still can’t get an interview
sure buddy, he just made something up as a cover story. He's a shitty lier in this case.
Use your brain anon, you think he interviews well? The moron that had a mental health leave? You think this is a normal person? I bet he looks nuts.
>17 years exp
>unemployed for one year
>unhireable
good god these linkedin spawn are weak-willed, its no suprise. this is what happens when you make a lifetime out of sucking up to antiquated institutions. one day they pull the carpet from under your feet and you cant think independently.
It feels great to use AI to accomplish in one minute what it takes a decade for this low IQ reddit normie to achieve.
God is good
How can you work for 17 years and have ZERO network? What, can't make friends at work? Just another red flag of someone who doesn't play nice.
>someone who doesn’t play nice
Stfu you tourist normie shit, go frick yourself. Work used to be about getting shit done, but now it’s about playing the social game because we live in a gynocentric dystopia where every step of life and society is catered towards female preference at every step. Frick this gay heard mentality hire my friends/who I like once I get more power attitude, the corporate environment and military are pozzed to all hell now.
>no I don't make friends at work and I hate everyone else around me and other guys don't like me because they can correctly tell I'm a homosexual
Okay bud. Stay unemployed. I don't really care if you die, in fact I would be happy if you did.
What kind of israeli corporate bootlicker mentality is this? You know before COVID there were tens of thousands of non megaisraelited companies doing very well with <100 employees.
Oh was making friends invented after Covid?
What bubble do you live in where referrals matter? Corporate asked us for referrals. If only 5% make a referral that would be over 10,000 referrals. We have 8 slots open for the role. And we’re definitely NOT hiring the best referrals.
Sorry I don't listen to ugly fat NEETs as a rule
filter /fOmoYMD87WByRPkg7g6vog==/
that’s what I thought dothead
Why didn't he just put the clay head back?
this reminds me, know how you create an atheist/agnostic? you tell them to read the bibles/religious texts of the many religions there exist in this world.
I wrote over 30,000 lines for my game this year, I use GPT4 constantly and it non-stop fails. Basically brainlet Black folk need not apply to video game development, it's the hardest form of art on the planet and that's why it's the most respected.
Chat GPT has forced me to look up a lot of documentation.. Honestly Ive learned a tremendous amount using it in spite of the shit, trash tier code it spews out.
>video game development
Heterosexual
Pick One
Troon.
People with bad mental health don't belong in white collar work. Go stock shelves at Walmart or turn a wrench with Jose the ex-con. Just don't expect us to hire you or give you welfare or let you live on the street.
Nowhere did he say he put the mental health leave on his resume, morons
If you just put “sabbatical” or something no one will care (I’ve done it). Just have a BS story about you spent time doing, obv don’t say you were dealing with a mental breakdown.
Tried being an entrepreneur, and failed.
I mean being unemployed with bills coming in and going through tons of interviews and not getting anything is very very stressful
that is 100% why they got let go
And, yet, it's totally fine and brave when a woman does it. Frickheads like you are part of the problem. You enable this shit and everything else.
Learn to code homosexual
>Doesn't mention race
He's obviously white. Businesses get subsidies to hire all the trannies, women with green hair and Black folk.
i think it's a woman. starting sentence is sharing emotion
OMG, you're right this could be the case. But the hiring process for women is way easier, so I doubt it.
Obviously white.
If I wanted to see losers complain on Reddit then I would fricking go to Reddit you stupid bot posting piece of shit
Trash thread
t. did the lern2code meme succesfully
How much israelite and troony wiener did you suck to keep your job
lol stopped reading at the
>I took a state enforced paid vacation because I wanted to
No wonder he got fired.
Exactly what some westerner morons don't understand that all Eastern Europeans do is that forced love doesn't exist. Yes you can force your boss to give you paid leave, but now he'll nitpick your work until he has grounds to fire you.
Fricking liberal idiots.
consoomer NPC's are barely human
>Mental health breakdown burnout
Lmao.
This guy is a giant homosexual.
I'm 41 in the same industry and I still have recruiters banging my door down like when I was 25.
>He failed because he's not special
>I succeeded because I am special
IDK you kinda sound like a gay to me
I'm not special I'm just not a homosexual who takes a year off work because my fee fees got hurt.
>fee fees
Are you sure you don't suck dick?
Apart from speaking like a wienersucker, you sound awfully proud of licking ass
"Special" not being a weak homosexual Black person is now considered "special" showing up to work for 40h a week is now considered "special" holyshit the west is fricking done.
No you don’t
no you don't lmao code monkeys are a dime a dozen
No, you don't you moron.
It's all bots.
>I'm 41 in the same industry and I still have recruiters banging my door down like when I was 25.
Kek- IT and have a linkedin profile, you're getting calls from "body shops" at best. LOL, top frickin kek. Welcome to it and indian recruiters.
Linkedin bots telling you
>your profile was viewed X times this week
are fake and gay
I hope you know that
Don't go after the big firms. You can make a killing maintaining and updating systems for small firms that don't want to change how they've been working for the last 10+ years. I'm making $125k by running sql scripts for an engineering firm because I'm the only one who can make sense of their database.
Most SQL queries are slow because of bad table indexing and moronic statements that force a full table scan.
Already indexed and done most everything I can. 90% of my work is just rerunning a stored procedure and copying it into a spreadsheet.
>90% of my work is just rerunning a stored procedure and copying it into a spreadsheet.
You haven't automated this??
>90% of my work is just rerunning a stored procedure and copying it into a spreadsheet.
LMFAO.. borrowed time. You should be looking for bigger and better things, employment wise. Sounds like a target rich environment.
I'm wanting to do sql work, but the only work experience I have is best buy and a bachelors degree in mis. No one wants to interview me since everyone wants two years of work experience.
learn the market learn supply and demand. I write cobol and C. i make 175k and live in the midwest. Lol there is probably 8 people in the world that can replace me, and they are all retiring. mmm nice and jeet proof.
don't let someone like me find out, I'll snatch that b***h
None of that matters unless you have white kids. Otherwise your money is just being drained down the toilet
i have white kids.
it depends on the job. I'll interview and sniff you out in 5 seconds.
thats big money. the amount of legacy industries still using this shit is crazy. most businesses are out of date completely except for silicon valley saas bullshit.
The types of systems used with these languages just fkn work, and work well for huge transaction processing and huge file processing needed. I've watched them try to replace it and watched it fail time and time again.
i believe you. the coding was better.
i have to learn SQL in two weeks to use an integration engine where do i start
Sar do the needful https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wt3yuc-rTJA
This ->
but unironically. SQL is the easiest shit which is why poos all """"specialize"""" in it.
>You can make a killing maintaining and updating systems
125k isn’t a killing.
Larp. You basement dwellers need to stop posting shit like you are a big shot.
>Worked for 17 years and doesn't have a nest egg to start a business or retire.
there's no guarantee you'll get any customers, just because you start your own business. tons of people are mighty surprised when they start their own business and suddenly the customers are a total no-show.
random question. How bad will have to search for crappy low level job with being out of work for 3 years? I worked in store for almost decade before it got shutdown. I was too depressed to go work again.
Do it now before the people with degrees flood minimum wage jobs.
Just lie.
Most places don't even call references, if they do give them your friends phone number or a burner cell phone that you own.
HR is full of dumb b***hes who are lazy, work around them
>Just lie.
>Most places don't even call references
KeK, maybe some small mom and pop, I can tell you from years of experience most reputable firms use companies like Hireright.
kek this, big corps outsource recruitment vetting. It's already paid for by the time they ask for references, they will be checked.
>kek this, big corps outsource recruitment vetting. It's already paid for by the time they ask for references, they will be checked.
Absolutely, If you work or apply for a reputable company, they will crawl up your ass to validate, to include criminal and financial background and usually a piss test. I used Hireright for ages.
i dunno, they don't do it. even recruiters don't do it. they just want a sale.
Yeah you’re right they never do it, usually they don’t even ask anymore
Lol They unironically don't. I have never had one of my references called. If you aren't lying on your resume you're an idiot.
>t. Corporate sales
>sales
No shit, they have 1/4 turnover every quarter.
>How bad will have to search for crappy low level job with being out of work for 3 years?
If you have skills, start your own consulting business, then you do not have to worry about the gaps. If you do not have the skills, look for a new field because just like every time this field crashes, you have to compete with highly skills people who got laid off and will work for cheap. Cream floats to the top and if you're not cream, you get dumped.
Blunt honesty - you do not need hopes and dreams, you need reality. You're better off focusing on a new field. IT will always be a low cost meat grinder for the low skills shit. You'll always face outsourcing and some jeet who will do your job for 20 cents on the dollar. Get into the trades or HVAC. Get skilled up and then you can always work and do side work. IT is dead for low skilled roles.
At the end of the day the only real skill you need as a developer is sales skills. If you have this you’re golden.
Lol, lmao. Just started a union position in an unkillable field this morning. I can't wait to see this guy begging for change on a median. The recession is real, I know many companies in telecommunications cutting heads left and right. Right or wrong most of the cuts are dead fricking weight.
Just lie, find a company that went under and a close friend to use as your former manager. My last background check I had to hand feed them everything, I used the trick above except it was true, acquisition instead of going under but when they couldn't find anything I just gave them my bros number that worked with me but my current manager was giving HR hell for not getting me immediately on so that helps.
Dont forget you cant be a White male or from China.
yeah, welcome to my world.. after 30 if you're not in your job position then you're unhireable in tech field because you're "too slow". All this remote shit is bullshit too. everyone tells me use upwork, fiver, etc.. yeah, except chinks/poojits got giant scams going on those sites where they pump up few profiles they own to many stars and only those profiles get all jobs while yours isn't even visitied. I get poojits/chinks contacting me all the time on discord trying to get access to my linkedin/upwork/fiver profiles
Skill issuee
>Skill issuee
meaning?
How come literally nobody will hire me for any job whatsoever? Employers keep telling me that I look “off” and seem like a liability
I have been looking for work for 7 years and cant find anyone who will hire me. Is there any other way for me to make money?
what do you mean they say you look off? were you a former rolly backpack anime kid that still has weird fashion? dress and talk like a normie man and totally lie on your resume. deceive them.
My plan to use my CS BS is to larp as a troon and a "good autist" for all those fat DEI points. These people are unfire-able and are autohires to virtue signalling woke complanies.
>dress and talk like a normie man and totally lie on your resume. deceive them.
Good luck with that, a plan for failure.
>Employers keep telling me that I look “off” and seem like a liability
Even though you thought purple hair, nose piercing, face tattoos and breast implants on a guy was trendy, turns out it hinders job searches. Whoda Thunk?
>Is there any other way for me to make money?
Suck dicks or sell mothers and children the crack rock
>7 years gap
And you're wondering why nobody will hire you? Fricking moron lmao. Make up some bullshit and stop being autistic.
I don’t want to get arrested for lying tho
No I just wear gym clothes and a baseball hat for most of the day. Or a polo shirt and golf shorts
I don’t have any of those things. I’m clean cut
hmm, what is your passion then? Start doing voulntery work. I dont think they will say no to you're help.
Stop giving the ick in your interviews. They can probably tell you go on hate websites to hangout with frens, which is what we’re all here for - love you fren
dude is a total homosexual
Honestly I just steal shit now and it's the best thing to have ever happend. I make more, don't pay any taxes and I make npc's seethe and I guess yo homosexuals as well. Get fricked cause I'm taking your shit.
The giveaway is their only specific skills and experience being "17 years" and "masters." Learn to code.
>NOOO THE ECONOMY IS ACTUALLY REALLY GOOD
>THANK YOU BIDEN
reddit screencap thread #184626
>he was working in IT for 17 years
>still needs to look for a job
how?
they all always talk about how they make 6 figs from their first offer
I could retire if I worked even 10 years of making 100k and he worked 17 years probably making twice as much or more
on one hand I'm glad that it gets worse for IT people since they've been so obnoxious for so long on the other I makes me mad since all those jobs go to indians who are disgusting
>they all always talk about how they make 6 figs from their first offer
>t. believing memes on the internet
The average salary is 71k in leafbucks.
>Your first job after graduating university pays ~50k
>after 10-15 years you make 100k
>then you either get promoted to management or you get get laid off
>now you have to retrain for another career
Software is unironically worse than an average office job. The problem is the people that go into software have low self esteem. They think making 100k after working in an industry for 10-15 years is an accomplishment. You can unironically make more as a high school science teacher in Canada. You should only do coding if you want to spend your free time on weekends practicing for job interviews:
I wish those code monkeys had low self esteem. Useless code shitters
$70k is a lot of dosh here, yea even though the everything is expensive it’s still more than what most people get.
It doesnt take much effort to make 100k after just a few years even in leafland. You have to be a really lazy piece of shit for it to take 10-15 years to reach six figures as a dev
>I could retire if I worked even 10 years of making 100k
if you file as single you pay $20-40k in federal income tax so you can't save 1 mil after 10 years. I only started making 100k after 4 years of working in the IT industry
Rent is like $4000 a month here for a small house
the cheapest 1 bedroom apartment is $2000
maybe if you live in your car you can save some money
he says years worked rather than current relevant skills. He probably burned out because he doesn't have the ability to pick something new up which all the people he's competing against know
Oh, did you dei pets take your job sweatie? So sad for you, guess you better
>learn2weld
I was get a laugh out of people realizing they are nothing more than cogs. The system doesn't give a shit.
I always*
Learned that the hard way in my 20s. Salaried job (no overtime) working 90 hours a week. Highest performance in my business unit by a mile. Laid off anyways while useless people got to keep their jobs lmao.
Never take work seriously bros. Life is about so much more.
I think most people get thrown under the bus at some point, happened to me as well. That's when I decided to work for myself. I don't make bank, but it's more than enough to get by, and I don't have to deal with the bullshit anymore.
yep. i made a mistake creating a web app for my boss and now he is making millions off it.
>Never take work seriously bros. Life is about so much more.
/thread
>just learn how to code
Maybe there is a god after all...
Learn to plumb, homosexual
>Learn to plumb, homosexual
He's not Polish.
bruh, that's even worse. the trades have crazy quotas and you have to work like a dog to fulfill them. people who just stupidly say "the trades will be your salvation!" have never worked as a tradie or are one of the few who made it in that field.
>quotas doing someone's plumbing in the bathroom
Are you moronic by chance?
no and i'm not kidding. plumbing is harder than you think.
No it's not. Maybe it's hard if you're 90 IQ.
>17 years of experience, 1 year without a job and not even thinking about coding some side project that makes money
I make 2000 usd per month from simple image optimisation website that is based on open source js code that was coded by Russian for 60 bucks, because I can’t code lmao. These are truly npcs.
So much for "Learn to code" huh? I do love seeing these smug people get dragged down from their castle in the clouds to reality.
Meanwhile in reality my company is turning clients away because we can't fill engineering positions fast enough and we hire right out of boot camps.
Coding bootcamps? Which kind should I do if I want a job?
What’s the name of your company or a competing company? Why don’t you homosexuals buy an ad so you can recruit a fully capable white people to help your company?
Why won't he just learn to code
His issue is he wants a 200k FAANG job and won't settle for less. I see it all the time. It's not a good market you have to lower your expectations
Where I worked is always looking for competent SWE so I know this is a lie or he lacks talent
Please God, Allah, vishnu, shiva, Buddha, quetzlcoatl, odin, zeus, and even the israelite one (satan). Combine your powers and holocaust all tech scum thank you in advance
Learn to Mine.
>works in tech
>acts surprise that they're considered obsolete upon turning mid age
in tech
>>acts surprise that they're considered obsolete upon turning mid age
So true. There is a wall for women and one for IT. The meatgrinder demands ignorant youth.
he lost his dev IQ points from the vaxx
no refunds
Demand right to work
stop voting for neoliberals
>NOOOOOOOOO DONT OUTSOURCE MY TECH JOB TO INDIA
Now hiring professional shoplifters.
Must be able to only steal $900 or less in one go.
Must be able to clean out a register in 10 seconds.
Baggy clothes with many pockets for concealing items is a requirement on the job.
Fat people encouraged to apply for being able to hide items in their fatty folds.
We are an equal opportunity shoplifting company, apply today.
>Doesn't just start his own Google
LMFAO, top kekkity kek.
When the plandemic was in peak psyops and people were moving to remote locations, I laughed my ass off. These dumbshits thought that their north american employer was going to pay north american wages for you to be a remote worker? really? You that stupid? REALLY? !!! All these people did was fine tuned the remote SOP's for the smaller orgs that do not already outsource. Then the laughable moment when the employers said you need to be back in the office. These fricks mortgaged up in remote places that have zero local jobs and now, trying to compete with jeets for remote jobs. The report back to office was a rug pull that you're not smart enough to figure out. These guys assumed you would land another gig, you quit and no severance costs for the employer. Now, there are a glut of people looking and since the job can be done remote, why not do it from an eastern bloc nation or BRICs for 10 or 20 cents on the dollar?
Back to paying a mortgage, now with the economy heading south (expect full rug pull if Trump gets in) people are dumping their vacation homes cause they cannot afford them. You will struggle to sell your place, cannot find remote work that will generate enough income and the local dollar general has 50 people applying for the one job post for minimum wage.
If Trump gets in, which is a strong potential, the DS and the left will be on 24x7 talking how bad the economy is and how fricked everything is the week after he is inaugurated. You cannot go back and rent and work at your employer because 99% of the job roles were make work no skills jobs and now that tech needs to drive a profit and produce, companies are stream lining and will use the downturn to purge even more.
All so boring and predictable. Look at IBM and their workforce, same bullshit they did. Use to be a workforce of 200K in the north americas, they offshored that shit and gutted those jobs. Now, you have jeets onshore that work dirt cheap too.
Yea, the idea that Google would keep paying you $300k to work in Montana or Tulum indefinitely was sort of ridiculous, even though, it must be said, Google themselves were saying that.
I'm glad I stayed close to a major metro city, although ironically I landed a stable remote job and am considering exiting, but not to Montana.
>people are dumping their vacation homes cause they cannot afford them. You will struggle to sell your place
Good. Boomers and Californians deserve a taste of their own medicine
> going to Brics
China and Russia are hard af atm and not worth it. Only India is relevant and you don't want to outsource to India. It comes with a huge cost in the form of meetings, needing dedicated employees to deal with the Indians, quality problems and so on.
It's more popular to source to eastern Europe at the moment since in some places a dev there makes 20k euro locally, so you get the quality ones offering only 25-30k a year. Yeah its twice as much as Indians but 6 people who speak English and can actually do math > 12 Indian morons.
Complete remote is always a meme. Sure you do have weeks that you don't need to be in office. You still need to be there for important meetings, discussions and presenting advices to management (and potentially board if its a 50-200 fte company).
> IBM
Doesn't really make anything new these days. Its main clients are those who decided to use SAS and then later on became glued to their cloud. Most of that company is legacy support for giga clients.
Just get something that is 1 or 2 days per week in office. Plenty of jobs are like that even in non software (such as accounting).
>Complete remote is always a meme. Sure you do have weeks that you don't need to be in office. You still need to be there for important meetings, discussions and presenting advices to management (and potentially board if its a 50-200 fte company)
fully remote is possible and realistic, anyone saying otherwise is a moron boomer
>It's more popular to source to eastern Europe at the moment since in some places a dev there makes 20k euro locally, so you get the quality ones offering only 25-30k a year. Yeah its twice as much as Indians but 6 people who speak English and can actually do math > 12 Indian morons.
pajeets code is ALWAYS fricking awful. every. fricking. time. eastern euros are more popular with those who freelance a lot because theyre cheap and they actually code well instead of having pajeet moronic throwup that """works""". when you get a real dev on and he has to go through the pajeet code, then youre going to end up paying to redo that shit. theres a lot less rework, if any, needed when hiring eastern euros because its not coded like a literal fricking monkey.
source: have hired indians to code shit before, and ive been the guy reworking pajeet code. its fricking awful. every fricking time. i have never, once, EVER seen good pajeet code.
> fully remote is possible and realistic
Don't expect the highest of TC when doing so.
> pajeet code
It always comes with 0 documentation as well. Sometimes little documentation isn't a problem because the solution makes sense and you can explore as you go, but with Indians this is never the case and you always stumble upon mysterious decisions. Decisions that are so bad and often way more complicated than just doing the logical right thing. It's as if they go out of their way to implement the worst solution even if it takes them 40x the implementation time of the best solution.
>It's as if they go out of their way to implement the worst solution even if it takes them 40x the implementation time of the best solution.
this. i dont understand it. and it was all formatted with a moron with no coding style. random spaces added before function declarations, the opening and closing brackets are in random ass places, some variable names are indented 3 extra spaces randomly, its as if the whole thing is to try to be as bad as possible. i really dont understand how its even possible to code that badly.
never ever hire a pajeet to code, ever.
>never ever hire a pajeet to code, ever.
if only the people who actually hire people would understand this
they see how little they cost and think they can't be that bad
>they see how little they cost
they always end up costing 3-5x more because of reworking when you actually need to do something else with the code and the jeet is long gone
>they always end up costing 3-5x more
yes I know but that isn't on paper for the idiots to see
It costs less in the hiring fiscal year because they save $20-50k on each new hire. The long term costs balloon over several years. By the time they become a huge problem, no one gets held accountable. They'll just lay off half the workforce and rehire new people for cheaper wages. Every few years, over and over again, making it worse every time.
>By the time they become a huge problem, no one gets held accountable
depends on how fast theyll be using the code after its done. if theyre hiring a jeet to give a customer a demo then hire someone to actually make it and there needs to be a new demo relatively soon, those ballooned costs will be realized pretty fast
source: literally had to rewrite a ton of fricking shit in the past 3 months with deadline crunches because of said product demos and regurgitated diarrhea original codebase
my boss keeps telling us how easily replaceable we are by offshore developers lol.
>my boss keeps telling us how easily replaceable we are by offshore developers lol.
You are....
I love this mentality. I use to love watching reality his you in the face when you get called into a meeting with your boss and someone from HR. It goes right long with the "tribal knowledge" where you think you know all of these secrets, but in reality, everyone is replaceable.
ever hire a pajeet to code, ever.
>if only the people who actually hire people would understand this
>they see how little they cost and think they can't be that bad
Depends - I have worked with India for 20 years. You get what you pay for.. Innovation and thinking out of the box is a non standard skill there. Their culture is driven by decades of call center script mentality, so anything that deviates from that is a challenge BUT, I can get top notch coders in India that will work circles around western employees for 40 cents on the dollar all day long. If you need a code monkey, 10 to 20 cents on the dollar. You're not paying them to think, you're paying them to code.
You need to manage those resources, so you have to keep a leadership team on the western side. You need solid KPIs and SLAs and manage your ship and hire thru solid companies. Is there garbage skilled resources there? Fricking absolutely - tons fake their resumes and certs. Those shops are all over on every block (I have spent a couple of years working in India as well) but, if you manage right and run a tight ship, you can leverage quality resources and make money. If it was all garbage, you wouldn't have the 98% of the fortune 100 outsourcing and you do. Those that complain about it are not in a position to fix the shit in their org or coping.
>BUT, I can get top notch coders in India that will work circles around western employees
apparently you are the only one. All the ones I ever worked with only produced shit I had to fix that never worked..
Indian IQs are two standard deviations above white IQs. That's why cumskins have trouble understanding Hindu code--it's just too far above their level for comprehension. The average Indian makes $130k, more than whites by far, even more than israelites, who are one SD above whites. An Indian with 100 IQ corresponds to a white with a 70 IQ, moronic. The average white is moronic by Indian standards.
>Indian IQs are two standard deviations above white IQs. That's why cumskins have trouble understanding Hindu code
everyone who has ever seen jeet code knows how fricking moronic of a coping homosexual you are
no rupee for you
dotheads have the smallest brains in the World, Africans look like sophisticated noblemen next to the average jeet.
>Indian IQs are two standard deviations above white IQs.
KeK- GR B8 M8
>The average Indian makes $130k
P.S. I hired Indians as cheap as $100 a month just two years ago. Keep trying though, it's entertaining.
>an Indian with 100 IQ corresponds to a white with a 70 IQ
So the smartest hinpoos are mentally moronic?
The average Indian is a shit eating moron in a muddy village. The average Indian IQ is 82 which is virtually moronic. This is why Indians flee their nation and no one wants to live there. It's full of shit eating morons.
>even israelites who are 1 SD above
Ah, there it is. Nested JIDF shilling
>>BUT, I can get top notch coders in India that will work circles around western employees
>apparently you are the only one. All the ones I ever worked with only produced shit I had to fix that never worked..
You have to manage your resources, period. Track work and develop / maintain quality. Purge the crap. It's the same as any employee. You get garbage if you have a shit contract and you or your leadership doesnt manage them. Key Performance Indicators - learn them use them. Service Level Agreements - make sure you have solid ones in your contract.
Plenty of solid talent in India. Plenty of garbage too.
lol… saar we all about the KPI saar
Post hand rajesh
>random spaces in code
Proofs of copy pasta anon, they didn't code shit to nobody surprise
yes, but its also much worse than that. the actual stuff coded is also randomly spaced and its a nightmare. this is really niche software so theres not many places they would be able to copy paste from. im honestly surprised they were able to get it done at all.
Working with CRM systems is good, most devs are too austic to have a job where they have to talk to business people a lot. Basically it ends up being pretty easy technical part but you just have to deal with borderline moronic business people constantly
>mental health sabbatical
This is not the right field for you
Too bad they are all liberal homosexuals who voted for the very policies that destroyed their industry.
Oh well, they won't reflect or think on this at all and Trump is coming back so they can blame him and get updoots. So I guess net happiness is up and they should appreciate that.
I will never work
I'm around the same age as this r*ddit gay and quit working around 9 years ago. I don't sweat it because I simply don't give a frick about this fake ass society anymore.
Let it all collapse, Biden/Harris 2024!
How do you survive in the US of A without a job?
He's a NEET who lives at home with his parents like 90% of /misc/acks.
>He's a NEET who lives at home with his parents like 90% of /misc/acks.
Bingo. They're old af now, so I help out and keep them from withering away in a nursing home, while living rent/bill free. I had a decent amount of savings when I quit work that has lasted me all this time. I also do freelance stuff here and there when I feel like it.
I don't worship money, like so many others do, and am more concerned about living frugally while not interacting with NPC normie pieces of shit. To me, it's worth it.
based anon, i think i'm about to do the same. my dad is old af and I am tired of living in my house alone where i only need like a third of the space.
I mean somebody has to look after them right? Why not you. But don't you want your own family once?
it's a dog-eat-dog world, bruh. we can't all make it, it's not statistically feasable.
Over 30 in tech.. Top KeK Good luck. The meat grinder demand younger workers whose drive and youth blind them to the reality of the meat grinder It's almost like the wall for women. You can be in your early to mids 30's but 40 and up, your fricked. Over 50? LMFAO, come on now, you know this industry age discriminates.
There is also a cycle in IT, this one will be rough, but enjoyable to see some of these worthless fricks practicing, " Would you like fries with your order"
Anyone old enough and has been in this game, especially in the US, has seen how it's a commodity. A race to the bottom. Labor arbitrage at your expense. If jeets are already in hiring roles in your org, even worse. Learn to cod AAAAACk!
Hopefully, you were not a dumbshit and saved for a rainy day, take your skills and start a business. Plenty of consulting to be done.
> drive
> ambition
You clearly haven’t seen corporate America in the past 8 years. I’m not sure what most people at my company (Fortune 100) have been doing. I’ve never seen such little productivity and endless meetings about meetings.
If you’re too productive you’re rocking the boat and making everyone’s lives difficult and that’s not good for morale and optics.
Learn to disassemble code.
>all the homosexuals defending employers
>you are the problem as the employee, you just arent fit to work
completely insane buck broken mentality
employees should set what is appropriate to work not fricking managers
no i dont care about you "risk" or your shareholders or your assets
dont like it do it yourselves you stupid c**ts and stop hiring employees to exploit in the first place
Inb4 some homosexual says
>ACKSHUALLY if you're in the top .00001% of programmers you will still keep your job
It's always been this way. It's a problem now all of a sudden because it's not as rewarding as it used to be. Before there was a payoff to the humiliation ritual that is the job search and interview process. People here talk about HR b***hes a lot here too and they're a big part of that, as they love to make people grovel to get hired. But, like I said, it's only a problem when it no longer pays off.
Learn to plumb, weld and carpent.
Yes, carpent is a verb now.
>left for mental health reasons
>why am i unhireable
kek
very good news, I've spoken with plenty script monkies bragging about how their code got "thousands of blue collar workers laid off" well- learn to mine coal homosexuals, you fricking limp wristed dysgenic homosexual nerds, or just do us all a favor and die and eat dirt, fricking scum.
SEETHE
you guys remember how things were in 2012? i 'member. there was a lot of talk of how coding was the future, because the coders were automating everything and automating all the blue-collars out of their jobs. they actuall wanted all the blue-collar dudes to learn how to code. they actually thought that that was what was going to do the trick and save us all.
They wanted you in tech so we could use the power of unlimited budgets to push Fascism. But instead you let the trannies and minorities control that because you can’t read between the lines.
hey, i went the tradie route, don't blame me.
crack addled prostitute?
You can't eat code, focusing on service industries only is both a macro and personal mistake. Build, fix or maintain things or work downstream of something that does. For Burgers, remember WVDOH is always hiring just have to piss clean and get a cdl, on their time and money.
did elon turn the comments off? why are you bringing this shit to me?
got laid off last year the day after christmas because my boss was a homosexual and hired someone else after telling me that i was a permanent hire. small company. took about 600 applications over 9-10 months, but i finally got one and have been working there for the past 5 months. new boss is a micromanaging frick and i have to log my hours, working a lot harder than the last job for the same pay, but i still got one.
so i get what OP is talking about. the market actually is absolutely fricking aids. people itt have made good points and hes a moron, but no its hard as frick to get a job right now for software engineers. i did get offers 4 months in for half my salary (40k) an hour and a half away, and i wouldnt take that because that was a moronic as frick offer. then they offered a few days later to only come into the office 2 days/week for 45k, i told them thats still fricking moronic. fully remote now for 80k, just like last year. same salary as my last job unfortunately.
almost 30 here, btw. github has lots of shit on it. ive also got an upwork with a shit ton of jobs over the last 6-8 years, thats how i actually landed the job i got laid off from. my work gaps are described as, well, the industry is literally fricking aids and no one would hire me.
anyone itt saying its easy is a fricking liar or applies literally all the time while already having a job.
have you tried not sucking?
i dont, youre just a Black person
>have you tried not sucking?
He's into swallowing.. so...
>anyone itt saying its easy is a fricking liar or applies literally all the time while already having a job.
Quality skills with a solid portfolio makes it easier. Seeing that your an under 100K in IT in the US, no offense you're not big leagues and that's why your demand is impacted. Do you work in a fortune 50 org? Do you have more than 10 years experience/ Certs? Are you multi-skilled? If you have dime a dozen skills that are similar to all the people that have been laid off from fortune 50 orgs, you have your answer. Not trying to be a dick, but that is reality in IT and employment in general. The more in demand skills bring higher money.
lol get fricked shill
>lol get fricked shill
Reality hurts, doesn't it. Cope more. Maybe you can turn that whole "Gay for pay" thing you do into a full time gig. I am rooting for you timmy.
hope you get fired again code monkey
I bet you don't save any money like the moron you are
ok gypsy
Your 80k turns to 0k at the end of the month after you pay all the bills lmao.
80k a year moron
i tend to save between 3-5k a month depending on the expenses though living with parents rn so no rent or utilities right now but i am paying student loans
> paying student loans
You’re what now?
i still have student loans to pay off Black person
Take it easy, he's mentally challenged
>he's mentally challenged
ok mr. almost lowest in europe
Wow looks like I hurt your fee fees. Imagine comparing yourself to rural rednecks lmao. Romania is still highly rural while places like Germany and Spain have ghost villages because of their shit fertility rates.
I wanna make more money but idk what to do and i dont wanna work in corporate pharma labs again (currently senior chemost at a DUDE WEED and its a nice job but its only 75k). Im 34 and have 8+ years experience but i need to start doing a side hustle or branching out somrwhere else. Any suggestions?
can chemists do chemistry as a consultant? can you start your own dude weed thing?
Yes, im an analytical chemist, in pharma and in dude weed i essentially do wuality control but im starting to hit that management level of experience now. But one coworker who goes to our clients to pickup weed for testing for instance is opening his own smoke shop and has the the dropship hustler kinda mindset. You definitely get a lot more interesting people in DUDE industry especially in my niche because everyone here is all ex pharma/food/cosmetics industry labs, we do the same exact shit so its people who are chill but have to have a brain on thier heads. Our drivers constantly complain the people we pickup from (the growers, at least lower people doing most shit) are absolute stereotypical morons youd expect be working in a Marijuana industry.
These threads always interest me because before my father passed he did code mo key/IT/SAP stuff for pharma corpos, my mom sorta too but she moved to supply chain stuff later
you should go out on your own on the side.
>These threads always interest me because before my father passed he did code mo key/IT/SAP stuff for pharma corpos, my mom sorta too but she moved to supply chain stuff later
you're lucky. my dad was a gambler and my mom was a prostitute.
>you're lucky
Eh my dad was half israeli so that makes me a quarter israelite but thankfully i was born in the soviet union so i have my foreskin. My crazy soviet mom, bless her heart, lets me live with her still
shoo israelite
I denounce the talmud
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>takes mental health leave like a moron
>gets fired for "completely unrelated" reasons only 1 month later
Some people are so fricking dumb. Just because you can cite depression in order to quit working doesn't mean you should and your boss is gonna be fuming you screwed him over like that.
If you break your leg it's a different story you have an alibi. But mental health? Lol.
Imagine being 43 and not realising that the entire economy exists for the benefit of the new pro-feudal retired/pensioner class. If you're unemployed, it is your moral duty to beat the shit out of pensioners and rob their homes. We have feudalism without the Lord's henchmen enforcing it, it is Stockholm Syndrome on a civilisation-wide scale. Just frick up some old people and take what they're stealing.
>I can't believe this is the system everyone just goes along with and doesn't question
Frick this guy, I bet he loved feeling superior to the blue collars getting automated/outsourced out of jobs for the last 50 years.
Craftsman-made goods still sell where it matters - my shoes are handmade, who gives a shit how the code for all the apps I run came from
Everything in the pic still exists as small niches. The result is the same even if 1% of people cling on to small novelty markets.
>who gives a shit how the code for all the apps I run came from
Exactly. Most people don't care about where anything comes from, they simply want to pay the lowest price for an acceptable quality.
i work until i get fired then J take the 4 months severance as a vacation.
Pajeets are an absolute plague.
Last year I've spent three weeks trying to get them to add an extra string array to a JSON payload, something that takes 5 minutes tops.
After three weeks they've managed to at least send some malformed garbage that I could parse out on our end.
Nothing to do with AI, the tech sector laid off hundreds of thousands last year - the tech boom is over, only a clown would go into dev work now.
>the tech boom is over
Oh no adult day care is over!!
Can't wait to see all the code monkeys serving me tendies.
It's interest rates.
Corpos can't get more money from government so instead they get it by getting rid off their employes.
It's nothing new, it has always worked like that.
All white males should ignore flashy generative tech and focus on image and video recognition, hardware, materials, and flight. The only generative tech you should be creating is an AI lawyer that justifies why leveling an entire village or air striking shekelsteins NGO compound was an act of self defense.
he is white duh
welcome to the worthless class.
>LEARN TO CODE LENR THBO CODERHEHEH
Meanwhile I told every single person to learn carpentry, or electrical, even fricking HVAC.
Because it's the only thing in the near future that men will even be able to do because all women will take over all office jobs.
OP is leaving something out.
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israels retirement age is 65
And they want to keep it that way, maybe even lower it so americattle got to work a bit harder.
>43yo boomer
>software "engineer" aka code monkey
>takes paid time off for his fee fees aka nothing
>probably has a massive salary, at least disproportionate to his job
>company lays this fat useless eater off and no one is hiring him
Not defending israelite companies but techgays had it coming
codebros just need to learn to design circuits. Oh wait you can't because it takes intelligence that you can't fake.
Thousands of small shops would hire an ex Google developer at the drop of a hat.
Provided:
He moves to a lower cost of living area.
Adjusts his salary expectations.
Understands that the lower cost of living area won't be a woke liberal shithole.
sometimes i almost feel sorry for codemonkeys but then i realize 99% of them are morons/pajeets and they make way too much money
the bubble burst. go learn some real IT skills instead of pasting from chatgpt and stackexchange
>Be me, white male
>Cannot find job(s) due to lower standards and affirmative action for subhumans
>Finding a job and keeping a job is always difficult due to not being diverse enough
>Tech buttholes always laughed at me
>Haaha Anon is a loser!
>Hahaha Anon blames women and affirmative action for being a loser hahahaha
>I told them the truth that lesser educated and lesser skilled affirmative action subhumas get the jobs
>Tell them that employers would rather hire no one than hire qualified white men
>Tech buttholes: tell me they know more about me and my life than I do
>Hahaha Anon must be really bad at writing resumes and interviews.
>I tell them I have fricking business degrees and 3 majors, which one is HRM major.
>Hahahahaha Anon must be really a fricking loser than cannot interview... get some interpersonal skills loser!
Guess what, all of these past years of abuse by tech autists... I really don't care about their problems. Tech autistics are some of the worst people on earth. These autistics are completely ego centric liars with the worst superiority complexes ever. These lowlife code monkeys always thought they could make 100+k a year scamming some start up company or some legacy company. They would only mildly grumble about the shitjeet hires and the off shoring, but refused to understand the diversity reasons why that was happening. Most of these autistic scum also supported the diversity programs to get useless Black folk, spics, and c**ts into tech. Their ego and superiority complex were so large, so they never see this coming... when I told them it was coming.
All of them can go try to compete with me to get a job at a retail store or supermarket, and we will be losers. The store would also rather hire some useless rude meritless disgusting Black person or crackhead c**t.
Welcome to the bottom, my fellow losers. It will never get better, so lose hope now, because its the hope of a better future that hurts the most.
>doesn't resent the people who hurt him
>only hopes other white males also suffer
You are buck broken
Learn how to read Kraut.
These tech scumbags support the system. They are the ultimate boomer like creatures, who always supported the immoral system, because they had good.
To hate them is to hate every normie scumbag that fricked me over. To hate them is the same as to hate the governments, leftists, females, and other affirmative action shitbags that fricked me over. They demanded it. They wanted it. They supported it. They only had hatred and contempt for me and those like me, who were targeted before they were targeted.
They spent a decade laughing at me and telling me to go kill myself. OK, lets see if they last a decade of scrounging to make a living... of looking at their shit finances wondering if they will make it another year. Lets see how long they last before killing themselves, as they wished on others. Don't expect me to have any kindness nor respect for anyone, because I have never seen it in my life... so I don't think it exists and would not know what it looks like.
i personally am shitting down the severed necks of all the fricking associate's degree keyboard slappers who called me a lame-o for working a government job. "i have REAL talent, homosexual!" 2 years later "well reddit, i have just been laid off :(" my house was paid off before 30 btw my imaginary enemies can go frick themselves.
There are literally no SWE jobs anymore.
There are "SWE" jobs, but they turn out to be BA/tech support/ticket shit instead.
I guess we just have to start stealing and pillaging once money runs out
>took medical leave
>employer realize how useless you are but can't legally fire you while on leave
>wait just long enough that they can fire you after you return
I never understood why americans raely if ever think about moving to different countries.
He would get a job here in Germany at no speed.
Americans are servile morons. Somehow that colonial spirit is lost. Hell I go across country to alaska to work and make so much money I only have to work half the year.
DEI a white minority that only speaks 1 language and it isn't german
we're not compatible with how you guys live. it would be a downgrade. even being unemployed American neet is better than being an employed europoor.
Kek you wish you lived in North Europe and got NEETbuxx for simply existing.
Have fun applying for SSI and getting denied wiener sucker.
no i lived in other countries and still, I would rather live in america.
It would likely be a 70% pay cut. The pay would be less than half, and the tax rate would double. It’s not even worth working in the EU.
>He would get a job here in Germany at no speed.
He doesnt want to work in Turkey.
>Gap in your Resume is a death sentence
Lol, what kind of ZOG mentality is this? Thinking that this kind of form is in anyway 'normal' is completely schizo and means that you're nothing more than a drone.
isn't having an open border with unlimited global competition for the same jobs while government regulation stifles any competition for the megacorporations grand?
>43
>mental leave
wondering why can't get a job
in a killer super competitive industry
full of young people
lol
lmao
and roflmao
>I can't believe this is the system everyone just goes along with and doesn't question in any meaningful way
Oh sweet summer child
despite reddit I feel sympathy for this user. As person who also with comp sci degree, it has been a rugpull deception. HR people lie to your face, schedule interviews then waste your time. Clown world for all I care, they made their bed now they must lie in it
i have sympathy for more and more people these days. that's how bad society is.
homosexual
For code monkeys like you maybe. You can always have a nice day, consider this.
i don't code. i feel bad for anyone who goes on hundreds of interviews and applications and can't get work. during the great recession, I was 20 and couldn't find a part-time job for a year. this is traumatic shit.
For a wagecuck like you maybe. If it's so traumatic blow your brains out.
I've been NEET-ing for a while and it's the best time of my life. Imagine having israeli boomer parents that kick you out lmao. American homosexuals.
are you 12? go cut your dick off.
Almost 30 lmao so much older than you zoom zoom. You are truly fricking pathetic I already know you will never have a family of your own.
So what exactly are you loser waging for again? Hilarious, go back to the cage.
get a load of this guy
>almost 30
son, im almost 31 and let me tell you a thing or two about the way things actually work
More like you got almost 31 years of wagecuckery left lmaoooo.
And by that I mean around 40 so shoo go back to your cage or Mr. Shekelberg will berate you again. Don't worry it gets better when you turn 65.
>AS
>PER
>USUAL
--------Tradies get the ladies--------
inb4 muh back kek
Couldn't they just start up their own company?
Software engineers where get paid very well for amlong time, if there are 100s, I'm sure they have the bank and knowledge to start somthing.
Learn to drive a forklift.
plenty of work if you can lift at least 50 lbs and stand 10 hours
this.
I gave up working IT.
too many pajeets flooding, too many sectors dying out and I'd rather jump in front of a train than move to the US.
Subsea NDT for me, pay is better, hours are better, life is better.
I'd join you if my lungs weren't shot and i could get a diver certification
>plenty of work if you can lift at least 50 lbs and stand 10 hours
kek
don't forget to vote.
lol. everyone loves hyper individuality until it's their turn to get fricked in the ass.
you legitimise your own ass rape when you vote
It's not AI, it's the fact that he's 43. Once you hit your 40s, you better be in a job that you know you won't lose because you become pretty much unhireable at that age. It's just not financially beneficial for a company to hire someone so close to retirement age.
He's 40 and has zero friends in his career. That's all you really need to know, if you're interviewing with 17 years of experience and not getting referrals you're a complete loser.
This too. The homosexual in OP obviously spent zero time and effort networking and believed in that "my qualifications will speak for themselves" bullshit.
>it's just not financially beneficial for a company to hire someone who would keep working for them for less than 30 years
lol
It's true. Older workers not only tend to demand higher wages and benefits, but they are also going to be working for fewer years than someone younger.
this
the 43 y.o. guy applying for the job will be fussy and picky like a woman
>a bloo bloo my family life
>a bloo bloo my life-work balance
>a bloo bloo my 8 hours are up I wanna go home now
no wonder they'd rather hire a 23 y.o. who's hungry for some money
>bloo bloo
Is that something like a blumpkin?
it's an onomatopoeia
>it's an onomatopoeia
Rather get a blumpkin. Is your Mom home yet?
>Is your Mom home yet?
has yours found a new "position" yet?
>>Is your Mom home yet?
>has yours found a new "position" yet?
Try harder, there is a reason why your nationality is associated with jokes, your comment validated it.
Didn't these people know you don't have to know jackshit about coding to make millions in tech?
this, its 90% pretending at this point. The poor fricker who keep this shitshow running are the true heros
Not what I meant. Should've studied business with computers as a hobby like me. I cannot create a website if my life depended on it but I hire and fire code monkeys like I wish
The poor frickers keeping this shitshow going are traitors and morons
The US job market caters to jeets, women, and Black folk in every conceivable way and it's almost impossible to out compete them for positions even in the majority of cases where you're a better, more qualified candidate. It sucks but this is where we're at.
>https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/09/28/minorities-are-delivering-all-the-us-labor-supply-growth/4c099b5a-5dee-11ee-b961-94e18b27be28_story.html
To all wagerats ITT:
It gets better after the age of 65!
Just keep grinding ahahahahahahahahahahaha 40 more years lel
Have you heard of investing? You only have to grind until 65 if you're a complete moron with your money.
You're not going to retire before the age of 60. Keep coping homosexual. Chances are you'll die before you make it to retirement lmao.
>Have you heard of investing? You only have to grind until 65 if you're a complete moron with your money.
That poor troon never heard or FIRE. It's a good life. Checked out of the rat race in the early fourties. Pulled back in once or twice for a fat contract, but dont even bother to anymore.
It's not even fricking hard, just stop inflating your expenses with your pay raises. The morons get a $10k/yr pay raise and immediately start spending it at sit down restaurants and a second luxury vacation.
>It's not even fricking hard,
This- live below your means. Especially in IT, for fricks sake, it's been a shit show for decades. Always the threat of outsourcing and it's a fricking meat grinder, if you're making good bucks. BUT, great pay and stack it away. I lived out of a suitcase and was a road warrior, so all of my expenses were covered by the client. Good times. Put away the cash cause you never know when you're going to get fricked, like OP's story and in IT, it's not an "If" but a "When". Most of these dolts do not get it and like you said, too busy buying funko and latest iphone, top kek. My feet are up, smoked a nice fat joint and waiting for my sugar baby to stop by.
You live in fricking Romania.
my monthly wage is your annual salary.
fricking gypsy rat.
but you can't own a spoon without a loicense, "mate"
I live in Scotland, I am not an immigrant or a moron, I have my FAC, and enjoy deerstalking on the months I don't work.
Poles and Romanians keep coming to this country though, and they always seem to fill the most menial, braindead jobs.
imagine being the "go-getters" of your country and still ending up as the shit smears in another.
your homelands must be really shit.
you're literally getting the bottom tier of our dregs
our chavs and failures
who couldn't make it in their own god damned country
so they had to go abroad
to wash your dishes or clean your toilets
all the smart and competent people stay here
make careers in international companies operating in Poland
thanks for taking our shit in btw
you're helping improve our statistics
lmao.
you fricking poles make less a month than I do in a day.
"the bottom tier of your dregs" are not the ones making enough money to leave the country and earn more than you by wiping my piss off the floor.
there's one thing you have, polack, and thats jokes.
a plane ticket to London is worth about one welfare check
you ARE getting our dregs
no one else wants to live in your kid kebab dystopia
topkek.
lmao
a Paint slide from 1999 featuring a gypsy
you really are moronic, Hamish McFricking Gregor
Actually, no, a world bank charity highlighting how fricking poor you all are.
the cost of the certs alone was almost enough to drive me to smoking again, the NDT part was harder, that was 2 years in a college trying to stay awake while they talk about ultrasonic phased array testing, focal law and other shit you don't actually need to know.
At 43 you should be getting jobs via referrals from your network.
Company needs to hire, first question from the boss is: do you know anyone you’d recommend?
If nobody is recommending you despite having almost 20 years in the game, you’re completely shithouse and/or a social moron.
t. clueless zoomer
Learn to coal
>I supported this israelitery blood sucking system for years until it bit me
1970.
she wearing a scarf just like an iranian would today.
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>burnout
interesting only one other post mention this, this basically means he just didn't want to work, probably live in some euro country where burnout leaves are granted.
The thing is, due to the high amount of benefits and rights people are far too reluctant to hire new people, especially old farts who are often a liability, one can hire 3 young juniors for 1/4 the wage
>liberal homosexuals voted for outsourcing and globohomo
This is the world you demanded lol