Students AI menace

Students will be creating millions of papers with AI to easen their burden

Students have submitted more than 22 million papers that may have used generative AI in the past year, new data released by plagiarism detection company Turnitin shows. A year ago, Turnitin rolled out an AI writing detection tool that was trained on its trove of papers written by students as well as other AI-generated texts. Since then, more than 200 million papers have been reviewed by the detector, predominantly written by high school and college students. Turnitin found that 11 percent may contain AI-written language in 20 percent of its content, with 3 percent of the total papers reviewed getting flagged for having 80 percent or more AI writing. Turnitin says its detector has a false positive rate of less than 1 percent when analyzing full documents.

https://www.wired.com/story/student-papers-generative-ai-turnitin/

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    zoomer here
    I completed half my CS degree using github copilot and later chatgpt. Finished with high grades because of it, got a good graduate position too.

    Don't care, have nothing to prove, only want money. cry about it homosexuals

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      larp im taking a compiler class and gpt sucks ass

      I got an A+ using gpt for all my essays in the shitter breadth classes though

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I never even took a compiler class, that sounds like an elective

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      larp im taking a compiler class and gpt sucks ass

      I got an A+ using gpt for all my essays in the shitter breadth classes though

      Academia is dead

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        When it comes to monkey degrees, yes. You can't chatGPT your way into real science that requires abstract thinking and theoretical science.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          No, academia is dead at all levels.
          It's all quantity over quality and gaming the system for grants.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I realized this in middle school when I found out that people cheat and actually get away with it while I was a good boy and memorized things fairly.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I realized this in middle school when I found out that people cheat and actually get away with it while I was a good boy and memorized things fairly.

            >submitted millions of papers
            So what? Not all of them will go through peer review process. Submition doesn't mean much.

            veterinarians are real people and not frauds

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              100% true for all jobs dominated by women, women are always honest and would never lie to you

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                no, other woman jobs are infact frauds but veterinarians arent doing it for money

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                yes they do it because they're zoophile freaks instead, I sometimes wish they only did it for the money actually

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I went to a orthodontist yesterday and everyone from the receptionist to the doctors to the assistants were women.
                They do good work tho.

                https://i.imgur.com/gWeNyYf.jpg

                [...]
                [...]

                veterinarians are real people and not frauds

                I got nothing against vets.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                orthodontists are scammers though, your teeth will forever try to misalign themselves no matter how many times you try to correct it, it's like a lifetime subscription for a problem that isn't a big deal

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I already paid, frick it, let's see what happens.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I had braces as a kid, it was pretty painful obviously. In the end a bit over decade later I'm back to having teeth that aren't perfectly aligned.
                Best you can do for your jaw is remove impacted molars at the back that are worthless anyway, beyond that your teeth will frick themselves up no matter what you do

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I'll get back to you in a decade

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I agree. The veterinarian medicine is the most cutting edge of them all. They actually want to cure their patients, and will euthanize the doomed ones to ease their suffering. Human medicine is bullshit in comparison. Imagine being a doctor without ever getting your hands dirty.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It's been dead, AI just gave it a proper burial.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      you are the reason it takes 6GB to do less than what 6MB used to do.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Copilot has only been around for like a year and a half, how could you possibly have finished half your program using it?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        it's just classic demoralization shill not realizing that boasting about having a worthless degree is not something you should be doing, there's about 100% chance that he didn't even finish highschool

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I finished my degree in august 2023. CoPilot was released sometime in 2022

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      gpt sucks for programming anything complex, it's only good for debugging fricking larp

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >gpt sucks for programming anything complex
        t. promptlet

        It doesn't suck, it just needs more context or a more concise explanation. The only limitation for it is how much you can fit in the window.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >average essay homework is NPC tier strawman problem that only has so many ways to describe it in written word
    >um, it might be caused by AI or something

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If your essay assignment can be satisfactorily passed using only an LLM, you need to create new assignments. Making people write the same braindead shit year after year isn’t teaching them shit outside of rote memorisation.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      How do you give them new assignments? The only way to be original is to write doctorate thesis on something not explored before, and undergrads don't do that, they literally only remember basic trivia about irrelevant shit until they get master's degree.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The point of the assignment is to both test the student and to teach them. Maybe do something other than writing long papers on nonsense. Your options are literally everything else in all of human history to pick from.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          but anything that has been written before is useless low IQ busywork and inevitably subject to plagiarism, which is a stupid concept because taking existing thing and paraphrasing apparently isn't plagiarism

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            So do anything else.
            I think of a Discworld quote that I'll paraphrase;

            And why do we it do it?
            It's traditional.
            But why?
            It's traditional to have traditions.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >do anything else
              I wish it was as easy as telling that to cargoculting academiBlack folk to do something productive for once but I don't make the rules.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >How do you give them new assignments?
        Ask ChatGPT.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Fine. Just have oral exams instead of written, make them recite their papers in public, using the old reliable; the rethorical square.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      great idea anon, that wouldn't be logistically impossible at all (:

      (I'm being sarcastic that was a fricking moronic suggestion kek)

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        twat

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        How is it logistically impossible? Most of my exams were oral. I had around 40 classmates. You had at least 3 terms, so not everyone took the exam at the same time. There were usually 5 of us being examed at once. Each group took around an hour to fully question.
        It's better to have a few good papers than lots of shitty ones. I had to defend my thesis on foot, without the Power Point. I could have defended every paper I wrote beforehand. No biggie. Just don't admit more than 200 students a year and the staff won't be overworked.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Oral exams removes the anonymity of the student, which I would hate in today's climate.

        White guys would all fail, and brownies would all pass with flying colors. We all remember that thing that became a meme a few years back about the Ivy league 'debate team' which was all Sheniquas who could barely string a sentence together and 'won' the who debate tournament. It would be like that on steroids.

        The only real solution is in-person written exams and it is based purely on ID numbers which aren't traceable back to the student.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          What anonymity? You still have to sign your written exam. The professor still reads the test results in front of class or they're put on the notice board. Even when they just put your initials, ID number or the password, it's easy to find out who's behind them.

          https://i.imgur.com/yXwuCXS.jpg

          >in-person exams
          >Implying that the professors aren't lazy piece of shit who only teach for easy money

          Has the world changed so much since covid? Don't they teach and exam in person anymore? What the frick is this shit?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            here even highschool exams are mixed, I had to go to like 7 random schools to finish highschool all because exams take place at arbitrary locations with arbitrary arbiters who usually aren't people who the student knows, also in same way, these exam papers get tested by arbitrary people and not from your own highschool, in university it's probably even more complicated than that

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              That's so weird. Why is it like that? My entire education took place in the same three buildings and they were almost next to each other.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                because teachers are prone to grading their own students better, it's an ego thing, better grades means better teacher obviously

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >industries being flooded with indians, nigerians and chinese
    >AI has enabled easy fraud
    what a nice future we have ahead of us

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >submitted millions of papers
    So what? Not all of them will go through peer review process. Submition doesn't mean much.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    turnitin is garbage albeit

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Only way to fix this is to go back to in-person exams on paper only.

    Academia has long since gone passed its point of relevance, where its pretty much universally accepted to be a joke. So frick it, cheat away.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >in-person exams
      >Implying that the professors aren't lazy piece of shit who only teach for easy money

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Coming from a math undergrad, I did not realize this wasn't the case.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I too will leverage LLMs for my business management degree. Even my college takes a pro AI stance and it provides free to use GPT4 license.
    I thought about writing about planned obsolescence and it's economic implications as my graduate thesis. Perhaps easy to score extra points when including ecological aspects.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    AI plagiarism is a good thing, they should really drop that whole essay-writing-shenanigans and focus on actual learning. (that'd also level the field for boys as girls are good at writing stories)

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >(that'd also level the field for boys as girls are good at writing stories)
      ladies are better essayists than gents? proofs?

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    > Turnitin says its detector has a false positive rate of less than 1 percent when analyzing full documents.
    lol
    >Prove you didn’t cheat. Go on, prove it. Oh wait, you can’t!
    >This means our software works

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm gonna call bullshit on this, modern LLMs can be extremely lifelike, all these "detection" tools are hilariously bad. Also, less than 1 percent probably means like 0.9995%, which is still pretty high imo

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, and?

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    can I get a sauce on the blonde
    thx

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I think it's AI
      🙁

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        can I get a sauce on the blonde
        thx

        Actually, maybe not
        https://www.reddit.com/r/DemEyesDoe/comments/ni1z3u/car_lighting_is_the_best/

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Nvm this is the weirdest rabbithole I could have stumbled on just from being horny
          Apparently there was a redditor (u/IncurableLuftmensch) who would upload pictures of a girl named Riley Guava
          Some archived posts here: https://ihsoyct.github.io/index.html?mode=submissions&subreddit=&sort_type=created_utc&sort=desc&limit=100&after=&before=&author=IncurableLuftmensch&score=&num_comments=&q=
          Apparently the woman in the images doesn't exist, they were made from photoshopped images and composites of faces. Apparently there was evidence of this, but I can't get the page to load:
          https://web.archive.org/web/20230526001819/https://imgur.com/a/xVTFtuG
          There was apparently a twitter, instagram, tiktok, and onlyfans for this made up person:
          https://www.instagram.com/luftyrileyg/
          https://twitter.com/RileyGuava
          There is apparently a SD finetune of Riley Guava
          https://civitai.com/models/58984/riley-guava

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >lazy pandemic zoomer students destroying their own reputation
    how is this bad?

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    How the frick does TurnItIn detect AI generated text?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      def IsWrittenByAi(document: str) -> bool:
      return 'delve' in document

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Students will be creating millions of papers with AI
    the Biden administration is already doing it

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Students have submitted more than 22 million papers that may have used generative AI in the past year, new data released by plagiarism detection company Turnitin shows. A year ago, Turnitin rolled out an AI writing detection tool that was trained on its trove of papers written by students as well as other AI-generated texts.

    Topkek, I have used AI for everything. No, they won't catch me. I didn't write my papers with ChatGPT, nor did I use any gptslopped model, so I'm ahead of the herd.

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