Steam is now banning games that contain AI art and AI text
https://nitter.it/simoncarless/status/1674285134374404096
Steam is now banning games that contain AI art and AI text
Steam is now banning games that contain AI art and AI text
https://nitter.it/simoncarless/status/1674285134374404096
It's not, it's only banning said AI art if there is a suspicion or close resemblance to someone else's copyrighted artwork.
so are they banning ai text because it resembles to someone else's?
You must have really fricked up for that to happen.
i think it's more likely you're just moronic and don't know what you're talking about
No, re-read the text. They're demanding that you PROVE you own the work by actively claiming anything you dont prove is AI work.
They're not saying your art resembles AI, they're demanding that you prove its not AI. Which is an absurd overreach.
no it's not. there is literally zero issue with proving you drew something if you're not an AI artist.
The burden of proof isn't on the game makers, its on the one making the claim that its AI and on top of that, there's a second burden of proof required to show that even if its AI, it must be bad. Then on top of that, it must be shown that this someone is illegal in some means, but its not.
So there's a 3 level of frickery Steam is adopting.
why should steam help affirm your ideological stances? you will never be a woman. this is a platform that actively sought for removal of a nintendo emulator before it was even released.
Exactly. Trannies crying about AI "stealing" their art work are no better than laborers crying machines are "stealing" their jobs.
sorry, but who's doing the crying right now? you're making the assumption that steam is doing it out of ideological goodwill towards artists. because of your victim complex.
also have a nice day for diluting troony as an insult. calling everyone you hate a troon is well proven troon behavior.
because of the affirmation parallel. are you stupid? is everyone in this thread from BOT?
>you're making the assumption that steam is doing it out of ideological goodwill towards artists
Steam is doing is because trannies like you seethed about "AI stealing your job/work"
You're a troony. You will NEVER be a woman.
there have been real legal efforts to criminalize generative ai. when you say "trannies" (have a nice day) "like you seethed about 'AI stealing your job/work'" what you really mean is that artgays are creating a legal situation that affects the bottom line of platforms. your seethe has no legal backing. that valve is ignoring you doesn't mean you aren't malding all the same.
not an artist. I can give literally zero fricks about art, because I'm not a cumbraln to be dripfed arousing images in my basement ten hours a day. wake me up when storytelling and music production AI get to the same level.
>there have been real legal efforts to criminalize generative ai
HAH.
No there isn't. The copyright law protects not only derivative works, but also inspired works. Especially when its not a direct duplicate. You can't just copyright a style of someone. No such legal work allows that.
it's only a matter of time until the spirit of the law catches up with you. have fun claiming victory over the right to your algorithmic cooming material, but a proper business has no time for midwit short sightedness.
>all artists are "trannie"s
have a nice day
>defending anything
no, I just find stable diffusion people insufferable. in the same way people find trannies furgays and weeaboos annoying. you're claiming to be the victim of unwarranted seethe while seething about something as inconsequential as pornography on tap. I'm here to dispel that notion.
not my problem
>everyone disagreeing with you are raiders from /ic/ or /misc/
never your fault sweetie
At this point I'm certain I've done more programming and deployment in the past month than you ever did
>At this point I'm certain I've done more programming and deployment in the past month than you ever did
Yeah because you know me and I know you?
Imagine sucking your own dick on BOT
Your attempts to defend the trannie along with big corporate AND the government is quite amusing.
>because of the affirmation parallel. are you stupid? is everyone in this thread from BOT?
And is there not another random parallel you could pick? Why was a parallel needed in the first place apart from flinging insults? You're obssessed. Idgaf how you feel about trannies, but sperging about them when they're not the point of discussion makes discussion worse.
See? Quality of the discussion went down. Now there's more sperging.
You're a troony, you cut off your own penis, now you defend corporate and the government through fake and delusional laws that you've created in your mind to justify your own troonyism.
Thats all that is to it.
See? Obssessed. Point to where I defended any corporation or government. Point to where I did anything other than criticize your inability to have an intelligent discussion. You think this sperging is gonna stick it to the deep state and big tech?
>fake and delusional laws
that was obviously not me lmao. it's quite clear this conversation has been hitting too close to home for the both of you.
you seemed like you knew me better than I did. what other boards did I come from?
>you will never be a woman.
Why must you bring up trannies when trannies aren't even the point of the argument?
>inb4 Hur durr troony artists
If trannies didn't exist, artists would still complain about AI potentially replacing them.
that's always been the case. they don't want stolen music / graphics in games they sell as rights owners.
source: saw it on twitter, trust me bro
In other words, Valve is starting to filter out shitty games from their platform
So 95% of the platform at this point ?
It shocks me that anyone would believe this considering how little of a shit they give about gatekeeping it, that's the whole point.
Starting from the bottom of the barrel i.e AI generated games, hopefully they go on to remove more and more
shovelware. I know this is not actually what's happening, just a personal wish
Or you can frick off to the tim sweeney store for your curated library
I would if it ran on Linux
Kneel.
source: trusted by me (trust me trusting sources bro)
if you own the models and can prove it then there's no issue. it's no different from japanese game companies requiring ai artists to prove they own their shit rather than stealing from online.
>luds aren't going to be reporting anything they suspect to be AI generated
Sure.
Seems reasonable.
>eleutheromaniacs abandoning their one "principle"
A tale as old as time, a song as old as rhyme...
abandoning their one "principle"
You're obsessed, Steam has never openly stood for any kind of freedom and they're not even closely associated to that, on the contrary, they are quite well-known for anti-competitive practices and frick-ups.
>But the steam deck
Not a single individual doesn't know that they choose Linux purely to shit on Microsoft, and perhaps because it runs better in machines with lower-end hardware.
Now, Wumao, show us where freedom hurt you.
>Steam has never openly stood for any kind of freedom and they're not even closely associated to that
They did. Especially when they allowed porn and /misc/ games. They wrote pretty libertarian statement how it users should be the judge of the content and not their moderation team.
>Allowing porn and /misc/ games is now considered "pretty" libertarian
>Ignoring everything else that they're done
>Still ignoring their public image
Wow, I really love how Google really cares about their users' privacy for putting up the option to delete their stored data! Pretty privacy-oriented decision on their part if you ask me!
>How so?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valve_Corporation#Legal_disputes
Are just a few examples. You can find a few more if you search online.
>On the other hand epic is known for lowering fees if developers do not release on other platforms.
Just because Steam is bad doesn't mean Epic can also be bad, or even worse
porn and /misc/ games is now considered "pretty" libertarian
Enough so that
(Me) is apt.
everything else that they're [sic.] done
Needless to say, it's pretty unremarkable.
>Wow, I really love how Google really cares about their users' privacy for putting up the option to delete their stored data! Pretty privacy-oriented decision on their part if you ask me!
Yup, this is pretty cool, however they are doing that to comply with European law. USA should adopt similar laws to protect privacy of internet users.
>Are just a few examples. You can find a few more if you search online.
>dispute over Half-Life IP
>dispute over CS IP
>dispute over Dota IP
How is this related to monopoly? Having copyrights to our own franchise means you have monopoly?
>Just because Steam is bad doesn't mean Epic can also be bad, or even worse
Yeah, but if others are doing worse then it's strange to complain about steam especially.
>Steam has never openly stood for any kind of freedom
>show us where [the Tooth Fairy] hurt you
She didn't, and can't, because she doesn't exist.
>She didn't, and can't, because she doesn't exist.
If you want you can eat ze bugs and live in ze pod if you want to. I certainly won't, and just because you're so hopelessly blackpilled that your mentality has been distorted to that of voluntary subservience doesn't mean that you're dragging anyone down with you, no matter how much you post. If you were so certain about your position you wouldn't be posting, if anything you're trying to convince yourself. Your contributions to threads contain no actual substance and are merely an attempt at ridiculing "libertarians" which aren't even related to this case.
>Enough so that
A tale as old as time, a song as old as rhyme... (Me) is apt.
Just because someone says something, doesn't mean they're right. You're a perfect example of that.
>Needless to say, it's pretty unremarkable.
Unremarkable enough to warrant multiple lawsuits. You're cherry-picking and admitting to it, then dismissing everything else as "pointless".
You also throw away people's arguments then find the most insignificant detail in which they might be technically wrong but also doesn't even invalidate their whole point.
Honestly your grounding on reality is almost non-existent, to the point where continuing the argument is pointless. Consider this my last reply to you, and you specifically.
>If you want you can eat ze bugs and live in ze pod if you want to
If you want, you can proofread your posts to eliminate needless redundancy, if you want to.
>I certainly won't
Wishful thinking.
>you're so hopelessly blackpilled
If you want to call it that...
>If you were so certain about your position you wouldn't be posting
>o-oh, you're confident in your view of the world? w-w-well, shut up!
>Your contributions to threads contain no actual substance and are merely an attempt at ridiculing "libertarians"
I'd call that substance. Kudos for acknowledging that "libertarian(s)" should only be said in quotes.
>Just because someone says something
I'm talking about an entire policy they have, or at least had.
>You're cherry-picking and admitting to it, then dismissing everything else as "pointless"
Yes, because said policy renders the rest pointless.
>your grounding on reality is almost non-existent
This is the first time I've ever had someone tell me this. Sorry, I've been told multiple times that I'm incapable of sarcasm.
>Consider this my last reply to you
Only if you do.
>, on the contrary, they are quite well-known for anti-competitive practices and frick-ups.
How so?
Last week someone was claiming how steam supposedly forbits putting game on sales on other platforms when they aren't on sale on steam. One search was enough to prove it wrong.
On the other hand epic is known for lowering fees if developers do not release on other platforms.
What?
>What?
Is it that hard?
yeah i thought that might be a problem
> steam
absolutely same pure sociopathy globohomosexual evil as snoy, xbox and nintendo
You can generally launch games without going through the steam client, and if they require further online validation then that is on the game publisher.
You can also launch the steam client with no internet connection and play the games.
>You can generally launch games without going through the steam client
What happens if the game uses one of the trillion steamworks API services that Valve promotes?
tf is valve supposed to do abt that?
they build a platform with optional extras and you seethe when devs choose to use those options???
Looks like stuff that would mostly still work with no internet connection or starting Steam Offline.
Unless they used some online required functionality.
>You can also launch the steam client with no internet connection and play the games.
lmao gabe shill
>spoiler
Dil/a/te
good, people trying to sell AI work only makes it more likely for laws to be made targeting it
You can easily
>Edit it in photoshop
>its legally now your art
>Make a bunch of AI art
>Train your own model on that art
>You now have a copyright free model
>Just deny using AI entirely
This shit is unenforceable unless you're stupid and use copywritten characters or admit you used AI.
>>Just deny using AI entirely
AI art is still far to easily identifiable.
Especially if you're doing more than one image.
It's not really unless you use something like NAI.
Also you can and should edit them a little. All it takes is a little overpaint and effects and you will never be able to tell.
>It's not really unless you use something like NAI.
It is.
>All it takes is a little overpaint and effects and you will never be able to tell.
And then it probably doesn't matter anymore.
It really isn't, trust me
Most idiots that publish stuff on pixiv and alike don't even bother trying anything else than NAI and just dump everything that they generate
I've successfully managed to run a pixiv account using my own personal merge of models, where I upload like once every two weeks to seem legit, a cherrypicked image, which I don't tag as AI generated, and literally noone called me out on it so far, after like 5 months of doing this, despite my most popular image having over 3000 bookmarks, so in my opinion it's mostly a matter of sticking to one model and just cherrypicking the best image
If you don't say you've used AI they won't be able to tell anyway.
Is it just the moe slop or code, assets, etc?
>Banning AI text
Yeah that's realistic. They can't even figure out if college essays are AI generated without tons of false positives, let alone video game dialogue.
>ending support for win7
>btfoing AI
steam is on a based streak lately
How does Gabe's micro pp in your fat ass feel?
huh? Did I upset an AICoomer or a windows 7 NPC?
Good I hope they ban chud games next.
That's very, very good.
I imagine the advent of image synthesis has created an unprecedented tidal wave of shovelware.
>Allow no effort games made by turd worlders using stolen unity marketplace assets to shit up the entire storefront for the past decade
>Draw the line at ai generated text
But I was working on several femdom games. How can I share my love for cooming with my fellow coomers now?
Does it applies to mods?
>source: twitter post mentioning reddit
Two layers of cancer. So glad these garbage threads are allowed to shit up the catalog. Can't have quality on BOT, can we?
>quality
>on BOT
lel
are they also going to ban artists who have looked at other people's art before creating their assets?
They should if they're being fair. I thought the point of the DMCA was to handle all of this, even if poorly with too much benefit of the doubt granted to those making a claim.
>indie trash doesn't belong on Steam
Would you prefer infinity Ubisoft Game (tm) Current Year edition? There are potentially other styles of gameplay out there.
Ubishit already keeps their games on their own platform. have a nice day Indiegays. Your shovelware is garbage and hogs up the store ads.
Good goym, sucking corporate dick
Is Steam going to ban Unreal and Unity once they start integrating AI tools for game development?
God I hope so. UE is hot garbage and Unity indie trash doesn't belong on Steam. Getting indie garbage shovelware off Steam should be a priority.
How much are ~~*they*~~ paying you?
so are they gonna ban craftopia from the steam store for using some new AI tech for interactions with any NPC in the game? kek
I used chatgpt to generate descriptions for my mods on workshop.
Go ahead ban me lol, such a win to all the poor description writers I've replaced.
Been saying for a while that "AI"'s biggest hurdle is using legal training sets, and that any current model being used can't be copywritten. It's why it won't go anywhere commercially until the legal issues are resolved, and companies/users can build training data that's legal.
But you keep jerking off to the idea that everyone is going to lose their jobs, lol.
If it wasn't for copyrights they would be whining about CP generation or racism or some other shit.
This was never about unethical data sources or whatever. Since day 0 it was just bunch of failed twitter artists spreading FUD because they are frightened they will be replaced.
false equivalence. you must enjoy that perpetual self imposed victim status huh
what's your idea of quality? the average inciteful bait post?
the op is ever only used to prepare a vague topic to discuss around. I'm sure it's very much a culture shock to you "people," frick off back to HN
>false equivalence. you must enjoy that perpetual self imposed victim status huh
I haven't equated anything.
you think the CP argument against AI is the same as the one for copyright.
no he said all you 'arists' whining over AI are just worthless trash who can't deal with the fact that you've been made obsolete and would stuck on to any concept or argument that gives you some false hope of relevance
thankfully I don't draw. I've also been on BOT long enough to know how rabid coomers can get when their preferred fetish comes under scrutiny in any way.
steam obviously wouldn't ban generated goyslop for the reason that models could incidentally generate synthetic CP. it's none of their business as a business. of course you'd think they care, because that'd feed into your victim status. there is no need to ban soulless coomer AI trash to ban CP looking assets from the platform.
you're incredibly naive. who do you think is behind this steam AI-art ban (if it's legit)? sour artgay steam jannies who can sense their existence is becoming even less relevant by the minute. there's literally 0 reason for steam to ban games on his platform before any legal precedent
>there's literally 0 reason for steam to ban games on his platform before any legal precedent
at most, they'd tag games that used AI and let the gamers decide if they want to support those devs or not
>sour artgay steam jannies
obviously the jannies must've all been artists. and the "jannies" must have been the one making policy. cope harder
provide evidence that steam is doing anything (beyond your delusions) or frick off
doing what? you mean the literal topic of the thread? yeah steam's probably doing that
>yeah steam's probably doing that
>i saw it in my dreams
I saw it in OP
dunno, but there's no *need* to
>there is no need to ban soulless coomer AI trash to ban CP looking assets from the platform.
You haven't been reading news recently, have you?
I didn't said they are the same. I just said that they all are used to spread FUD about AI.
What's your point even?
nothing to do with AI itself, it's to do with the licensing.
Good. Day of the rope for proompters can't come soon enough. Either hire an actual artist or use shitty programmer art, either will take more soul than AIslop.
Good. They know exactly when to draw the line with this. They need to start regulating AI sooner than later. This will be a big discussion in these coming years as AI becomes too advanced and easily accessible.
Steam is healing
>/ic/ raiding BOT and BOT to cry about the inevitable
>riding corporate dick just to remain relevant for just another year
why are you still replying to this obvious bullshit bait thread ? specially something as idiotic as banning text ?
are you people moronic ?
>make a game
>use ai art
>provide game for free
>make soundtrack
>have an optional soundtrack purchase outside of the game
Would that potentially be a subject to any lawsuits?
This is all fake news
Steam isn't stupid enough to ban AI in games
At most maybe the sameface moe slop but even that's a stretch with how generic it is period
cope AI tard. nobody likes your soulless computer generated trash. Can't wait until local models are also banned in the west because people keep making CP with them
Don't transpeople get tired of spreading bullshit on twitter ? or is that the only way you can get any attention ?
why'd you put a space before your question mark? a hopeless coomer AND a baguette Black person, might as well kys and reroll at that point
They're probably just trying to get ahead of legislation being implemented that does the same thing.