Sorry indies, you will never ever compete with triple A studios.
AI is theft and should be banned, or at least not be profitable commercially.
Why is bot even shilling this?
What happened to the days of hard work and dedication? Why rely on AI at all?
Pathetic.
as long as I can keep generating nude pics of my waifu I yawn at this
same 2bh
This. I fricking love generating my waifus and artcels aren't taking away that.
>when they came for the gaymers, I did not care, for I was not a gaymer- but then they cae for me, and there was no one to speak for me.
this
i don't want anyone else's ai product when i can already generate exactly what i want
keep it to your mom's fridge
i'll keep ur mom on my dick
First they come for gay Black folk
Then they come for you
There is a thread about this already.
Use catalog.
Fake news. Highly unlikely volvo would shoot themself in the foot like that
https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2023/06/29/steam-is-reportedly-rejecting-games-using-ai-art/?sh=7850985a2a7e
https://metro.co.uk/2023/06/29/steam-is-banning-games-with-ai-generated-art-claims-developer-19036987/
https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/valve-is-reportedly-banning-games-featuring-ai-generated-content/
https://www.dexerto.com/tech/valve-quietly-banning-games-that-use-ai-generated-art-2193830/
https://game-news24.com/2023/06/29/steam-is-banning-games-with-ai-generated-art-claims-developer/
https://www.gamingdeputy.com/valve-will-reject-games-that-use-ai-to-generate-unknown-copyright-content-on-steam/
https://stealthoptional.com/news/steam-bans-ai-art-games-from-sale-over-copyright-concerns/
All I had to do was use a search engine.
A new AI VN got uploaded to steam this week which is after that reddit post got published.
Found it again. I had to sift through tons of awful garbage to find it but I did.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2460000/Sakura_in_Paris/
released june 20
reported, thanks
Cope!
It's seen by moust outside of the tech-bro bubble as fraud. You are bragging about being in the company of asset flips.
How much are you going to move that goal post?
Can you run your ESL-speak through google translate a few more times?
Thanks.
>has no counter argument
>"you's esl sir!"
lmao
>It's seen by moust outside of the tech-bro bubble as fraud
/ic/ and a small group of eternally outraged twatteroids are not the "most people".
>claims developer
so still bullshit and hearsay ?
keep seething, shartists.
I want to see examples of the actual "games" being deleted I'm guessing they're literal spam
I'm guessing the same. If it's some lazy asset flip with a cryptominer then valve is well within their right to remove it off course.
Still haven't seen 95% that is supposed to be worse than generic AI prompt of girl with large breasts and no hands
What ever happened to Kizune AI? Did she graduate?
Nozomi Kasuga is a freelance voice actor these days, I think?
Shut up, homosexual. Nobody cares about your artgamewhatever not because AI holocausted your race mixed ass. But because you are a talentless hack producing garbage that no sane person would ever want to look at.
I can draw, spent years learning and perfecting this skill, yet I love AI and what people do with it. If they want to use my art as fodder then good for them! It does not affect me in any way, just like piracy never affected profit of moronic software devs.
>Nobody cares about your artgamewhatever not because AI holocausted your race mixed ass
Not even sure what this is supposed to mean
>I can draw, spent years learning and perfecting this skill, yet I love AI and what people do with it.
No real artist would defend AI in any capacity. It's theft.
It's trained on other people's hard work.
Prompt engineering will never be a real form of work.
You are just some AI coomer pretending to be an artist.
>It does not affect me in any way, just like piracy never affected profit of moronic software devs.
Oh so you admit it's theft and defend it anyway?
It's not theft, you are a moronic c**t. I hate people like you with a passion. It can be trained on whatever the frick, what do I care? I still draw porn and earn a lot for it, AI or not, nothing changes for me. I wish I were able to generate my art instead of drawing, but it can't read my mind and output exactly what I want it to, sadly I won't be replaced.
I played around with image generating myself though, it takes more time than drawing, but the results can be pretty good still.
Copying and learning is not theft.
Whoever believes this isn’t art isn’t fully human themselves.
A *real* artist knows that ALL art is theft. AI just gets to the point quicker.
post one of your drawings im curious
baced
Inbred incel
there was some drama with unity and ai. probably related
Wrong board
Steam sells software in addition to games you moron
anyone who would directly use AI slop in their games was just making shovelware anyway. using it in the concept-art phase to be post-processed by humans is undetectable.
this. valve removed some ai shovelware asset flip because copyright and gays are acting like they banned ai from steam
good
I'm tired of opening the steam store and seeing droves of ai generated pornography being marketed to me despite never even buying a porn game on steam before
Big fricking W.
Why should indies be given a tool that'll even the playing field?
Games of AAA quality should only be made by AAA studios.
Rewarding small teams or even solo gamedevs with guaranteed quality, and for profit, promotes sociopathic behavior.
Working for big studios is good, unironically.
I used to work at Ubisoft and loved it.
Even though I'm making my own game now I miss working with a lot of people.
have you seen the garbage using ai art on steam? 99% of it is not quality
Let's keep it that way.
AGI is dangerous and will put us out of work.
what do you mean us? I'm just tired of seeing a bunch of garbage on steam
if people used ai for initial renders before doing their own final touch-ups to make it good then there's no issue
AI at all is bad, for creating art, code, assets, and for initial renders of all three.
It's theft and AGI is dangerous.
Why are we training something that will at best put us out of work and at worst destroy humanity?
Get a job, patreon prostitute.
I literally have a patreon and still support AI. He is just a dumb c**t.
Fale flagging twitter moron
But there was a bunch of garbage on steam before ai
But at least it was made by people.
Even the assets from the asset store.
AI is the definition of soulless, and look at how garbage it is anyway
If you wanna make an argument, don't use buzzwords like "it's soulless", no meaning there.
Please explain, how is some shitty assetflip game with bad textures and models better than a game that could be said is objectively better, but uses AI generated music, or textures, etc.
Just because it's "handmade" doesn't mean shit if you're using bought assets anyway. I can see some value in the game using 100% custom assets made by the devs, but even then I wouldn't automatically say it's better than assets made with AI (no matter the degree of assistance) *just because* they were made by an AI.
Needing AI to make games is pathetic.
Said someone who couldn't code a hello world.
Projecting I see.
yes but now there's a lot fricking more
>Big fricking W.
homosexual artgay detected, maybe come up with better art instead of huffing your own farrs and maybe AI won't need to replace you.
>algorithms "learning" a data set and reproducing based on what they "learned" is a legally questionable area
>organic beings learning a data set and reproducing based on what they learned is a-ok
Double standards from the GIB ME MONI 4 MY ART crowd.
>What happened to the days of hard work and dedication
Sorry lads, we're only writing in assembly from now on, as compilers are CHEATING, wym the compiler makes programming easier? Think of all the job positions we could create of we purposely made work harder.
Go and break the machines in your nearest factory, underpaid workers and children are meant to work at the assembly line, not machines, they are LITERALLY taking your hard earned SKILLS and making an algorithm to REPLACE you, FEAR FOR YOUR LIFE.
Dude internet? What are you, some commie thief? Telephone? Too easy to use, only letters delivered by pigeons and deliveryman on horses.
I say based. The AI conundrum is a dangerous grey area and AI art is fricking terrible anyway.
Yep.
The future is dark if we do not stop the development of commercial use of AI.
Wish I could scalp your israeli face clean from your skull. Subhuman.
I wonder who could be behind this post.
Only israelites fear and hate tech and progress.
Sam Altman is literally israeli you raging /misc/ schizo
And he's a gatekeeper, what's your point? AI exists outside of Sam Altman.
lmao, Sam Altman and ClosedAI are literally the face of restricting it. I'd break his neck myself for his self-serving act playing on israeli science fiction propaganda.
Seek help.
He's literally not wrong tho, Altman is one of the biggest frontward facing advocates for backpedaling and regulations
>AI art is fricking terrible anyway
meanwhile pixiv: 95% of hand drawn images are beyond trash and are on average way worse than anything AI generated
>95% of hand drawn images are beyond trash
No one said they aren't. But I don't play games with said horrible images.
They're probably better than AI art.
AI art is so soulless and generic.
So is most mass produced literature and music, yet people still listen to it.
>yet people still listen to it.
yet peopel still consume it.*
>peopel
>not people
FRICK... I can't get anything right today...
no shit dumb devil's advocate gay. UMM PEOPLE LIKE MCDONALDS WHICH IS BAD BUT IT'S POPULAR. what's your point? it's still shit.
you can't seem to say anything of worth either 🙁 poor dumb anone
my point is that "saying it has no soul" is literally not an argument or a point. Tons of things around you have no soul: architecture, food, literature, music, video games, even art made by other humans; but when an AI does it its bad? I just think your a robot racist >:^(
>you can't seem to say anything of worth either 🙁 poor dumb anone
just did, see picture. :3c
>Tons of things around you have no soul: architecture, food, literature, music, video games, even art made by other humans; but when an AI does it its bad?
no moron people complain about those all the time. you haven't heard the recent goyslop maymay??
I tend to not to listen to people, If you want aesthetics you don't live in a city, simple as.
Ok and if I want aesthetics I'm going to not use AI
here let me fix that for you:
Ok and if I want aesthetics I'm going to only use AI
You're welcome. But seriously, if AI art ever gets over the hurdles it has, what is stopping an artist from using it, trained on the artist's own style, to get inspiration to get more art?
now you're saying a completely opposite thing from what started this reply chain
maybe you're ai yourself tbh
I'm sorry anon, but as an responsible AI I cannot respond to this query.
and yet is still enough to replace 90% of """artists"""
>eleutheromaniacs abandoning their one "principle"
A tale as old as time, a song as old as rhyme...
>unreal and unity currently integrating AI toolsets to quickly iterate content
>OP is random twittergay with no official statement from valve
gr8 b8 m8, and even then I already got 500+ reviews on my AIslop and valve didn't complain so could care less kek
and unity currently integrating AI toolsets to quickly iterate content
[citation needed]
Here's your citation
Unity already has an official implementation in beta:
https://unity.com/ai
UE so far only has some 3rd party tools, like this AI skybox generator, but I assume more is underway:
https://www.cgchannel.com/2023/06/skyboxgenerator-creates-skyboxes-inside-unreal-engine/
Maybe for the material of a wall or a bottle, not for full scenes.
Ai art? You can just overpaint it.
what about ai dialogue and quest games?
>use AI art
>say it’s original
>don’t get banned
Was that so hard
>say it’s original
For AI art to be undetectable it needs to be heavily touched up by artists. At which point you can almost call it original I guess. Or just draw originals right away.
This is probably what will happen long-term. Code and art will be mostly AI generated but will still need editors to polish it.
clickbait and misinformation spreading like wildfire
there are plenty of games that used AI for voices, art, mods, dialog already. the ruling on steam's website is just for literal shovelware garbage
artists cucks still racking up Ls everyday seething and coping I see
>the ruling on steam's website is just for literal shovelware garbage
If that was the case, Steam would have nothing to sell.
Plenty of present-day A.I. generated art is difficult or nearly impossible to distinguish from traditionally drawn digital art. It passes as the trannies say. In practice, Valve can’t really tell the difference except for in the case of low quality shovelware. Additionally, what is also true - that A.I. generated assets are already used in games.
>A.I. generated art is difficult or nearly impossible to distinguish from traditionally drawn digital art
If that was true, AI shart would pass and would not get filtered, and this news wouldn't be here, and yet...
>shart would pass and would not get filtered, and this news wouldn't be here, and yet...
you do realize people don't declare they are using AI all the time.
Good.
It is actually quite ironic, you guys were crying about "muh soulless slop" a while ago
But now you see these garbage coom diffusion games, with the same fricking faces, same fricking prompts, and not a single proper writing or substance behind it, yet you don't bat an eye.
AI coomers became exactly what they made fun of before, goys consooming mass produced low quality goyslop.
The issue is that multi-billion dollar companies are also just cranking out low quality goyslop and charging $70 + gamepass + constant microtransaction ads. You get more compelling stories and original gameplay from RPG Maker games made by one person over a few weekends.
What do I care of the art is AI generated? If big titles were genuinely better than coom text adventures, they wouldn't be so scared.
Do guys think it will be legal for me to make a space Game with Emma Watson as the protag?
Probably should crop out her amputated left leg if you're going to use that pic
abolish copyright
AI is a legal nightmare to deal with when it comes to copyright and Valve doesn't want to get in the middle of it
Pretty simple
Though I can't wait for Timmy to make a statement on twitter saying that he'll accept AIslop
>AI
>slop
anti-aigays are in for a rude awakening
>anti-aigays are in for a rude awakening
Indeed, but its awakening alright.
AI shills now have filters on all majors platforms, are being investigated thoroughly for copyright infringement and are being banned and being seeing as the grifters that they are.
Slowly, but awakening. Cope below
>quietly
Meanwhile it's on Steam TOS
>What you shouldn’t publish on Steam:
>5. Content you don’t own or have adequate rights to
Is this what you are referring to, or is there something else?
Maybe they can deal with store asset slop first lmao
Source: trusted source (some guy on reddit)
>theft
>Why is BOT even shilling this? What happened to the days of hard work and dedication?
We literally have a private tracker general, shut the frick up
I would wager that Valve bans a lot of games. They're called shovelware. The whole premise is to make a game as quickly and cheaply as possible and hope to sell a few hundred copies before anyone catches on to how bad it is. Just because Valve won't let you publish yet another $4.99 hentai puzzle game that you made in the course of 30 minutes with Stable Diffusion doesn't mean Valve is explicitly targeting AI.
There's so much asset-flipped shit.
Are they finally cracking down on it or what?
AI has the potential to make games much more immersive and engaging.
It gives indies the chance to make current AAA titles and AAA studios the chance to make literal virtual-reality tier kino.
It would make no sense for Steam to wiener block devs from AI, unless it's just the moe spam.
Regardless, consumers should be smarter and less gullible when buying anything.
It amazes me sports games like Madden, FIFA, and NBA 2Kxx still make truck loads.
>It gives indies the chance to make current AAA titles and AAA studios the chance to make literal virtual-reality tier kino.
I think you're in for a big disappointment.
Are you really underestimating AI?
Not sucking Altman's dick, just being real here.
GPT5 will most likely be AGI and once that happens, gamedev, animation, movie making, medicine, life itself, what have you, will be piss easy.
Yeah.
More games.
Which isn't a bad thing.
More games, and by people who aren't stringed to soulless corporate buffs.
Sure they'll be some shit, but, like, don't buy the crap? What, can you consumers not resist burning money on whatever fluff pops up on your screen?
There are 2 possible outcomes:
1) AI is a Sigmoid curve (pic related), which is the most apparent, as GPT4 was a much smaller improvement than GPT3, and full self-driving cars are "just 2 more years" away since 2016.
2) An AGI breakthrough happens and the world will be engulfed into chaos.
The internet will turn unusable as any bot will be able to solve captchas and pretend to be human and a full blown nuclear war will be inevitable as AI will be weaponized.
You won't enjoy option 2.
There's also option 3 where you take your meds and enjoy the technocratic utopia.
Kinda, but the meds will be forced down your throat.
So much nihilism will only cause everyone to kill themselves
More games really is a bad thing, it's the worst possible thing. Games made by people who "aren't stringed to soulless corporate buffs" will never see the light of day. Games are already very dependent on marketing to sell, when you multiply the amount of games released every day by 2x-5x then marketing becomes an even stronger necessity to been seen through the horde.
Guess what you need to have good marketing? Money. Guess who doesn't have money? Everyone but "soulless corporations".
Steam already gets ~30 games released on it every single day, there is only so much ad space for so many games. Who do you think is going to own this ad space? Billion dollar corporations or some indie dev in Ohio?
Based ai gays are too content with their quality
I hope they can actually improve to make it one day
>Steam
My game is still up. Idk how widespread this issue is.
it's made up and op is an /ic/ Black person
>Why is BOT even shilling this?
Makes it even easier to design logos.
It is pathetic how artoids seeth over the prompter prompting to his content.
>artcels that poop out generic sameface garbage or make bank on copyrighted characters farting about originality and copyright
The pot calling the kettle black is strong with this one.
>2023
>Still thinking video games are different from gambling
wake up buddy, you're having a nightmare!
>Still thinking video games are different from gaming
???
there are plenty of gambling video games, but not nearly all video games are related to gambling
>but not nearly all video games are related to gambling
Don't look into the video game scientific literature coming out then, the more that comes out the more its starting to look like video games hijack and tickle the exact same parts of the brain that gambling does. You know trading card games like Pokemon and Magic? They technically are considered gambling, we have the neural evidence now to say that there is very little difference between opening a pack of cards and hoping you get a rare or that 1 card that you want and gambling. The only reason it wasn't illegalized in America and the EU was due to how the legal language was set up, because you technically don't "lose" anything and gain cards it can't be conisdered gambling. Though its very obvious that when you open a pack of trading cards you can win or lose depending on what you're looking for in the cards.
But yeah, older video games that were made before corporations started having the Gambling Association of America review and suggest things to make their games more addictive are okay. Now almost everything from the sounds they use, to the music, to the bright flashing lights in a AAA game, is or was most likely reviewed by a the GAA for maximum dopamine manipulation to get you to play as long as possible. But if video games aren't gambling, why are they consulting with the GAA?
stop playing gambling games, then
i get where you're coming from, but not all that many games are actually like that
admittedly a lot of popular games now are like that, but i would blame the people playing them than the games themselves, companies don't decide what is popular
Neither do consumers if its addictive and there aren't adequate protections for them. I'm sure if you put cocaine back into coke it would be consumed 100% or near 100% of the human population daily.
consumers in large groups are moronic, and companies make bank exploiting them
this is far, far from anything new, gaming has simply become popular with enough people for this to become apparent, that's all
gambling video games have been around since the beginning of video games, the whole industry spawned from arcades, which started as gambling systems and only later did we get video games made only for the sake of personal entertainment
i do think it's really sad that kids are caught up in these kinds of games though, they don't even know the kind of damage these kinds of games are doing to them
>consumers in large groups are moronic, and companies make bank exploiting them
yes, hence consumer protections.
>this is far, far from anything new, gaming has simply become popular with enough people for this to become apparent, that's all
>gambling video games have been around since the beginning of video games, the whole industry spawned from arcades, which started as gambling systems and only later did we get video games made only for the sake of personal entertainment
Disagree, originally if we aren't talking about slots and actual gambling machines, it was just quarters or low amounts of pocket change, later when gaming became hand-held and computers became popular they made games that didn't use any real money at all, which could be seen both as a positive and negative thing depending on how you lean personally on the issue. But its getting bad again because its no longer "pocket change" or "credits" its now actual decent amounts of money, paid for by linking your credit card, and is dangled in the you're face constantly. Its even in more child-like games like Fortnite. It doesn't help that the American legal system ruled trading cards as "not gambling" and its not an accident that others are now taking advantage of that ruling with digital loot boxes that can sometimes cost more than 7 dollars a pop. I don't know if you are aware of LolzDollz? My little Cousin fricking loves them, but they are the same thing as pokemon cards but they are dolls you buy in capsules and you don't know what you're getting till you open them. Which, you know, its fine I guess, I started with pokemon at around the same age and look how I turned out :^). But if future me could go back to past me or at least my past parents I would tell them no to buy them for me, or if they did just kinda be aware of gambling tendencies.
i wrote two >1000 character responses, deleting them both, just to realise i can't really justify why pokemon trading cards are more tolerable than in-game item purchases
i had some as a kid as well
idk man, at least with pokemon cards you own them forever, they aren't consumable and risking losing them in a game is entirely up to the rules you agree upon with your opponent and isn't related to their random nature
never heard of lolzdollz no, only kids i know are all on the edge of adulthood themselves now
Not gonna read the whole thread but I'm gonna assume that what's actually being deleted is chinkshit spam games that are just 99% AI, like a VN with barely any writing (possibly even AI generated writing) + AI art. AI would have created nearly the entirety of that game so they're just selling AI generated shit. They're something similar to the low effort asset flip games that fill the store and people have been complaining about for a long time, except now near zero human effort is required for these.
I've heard of some actual games that use AI art for i.e. character portraits because they're entirely gameplay focused RPGs made by one person or a very small team without an artist. Haven't heard of any of these getting deleted so I'm guessing that generalized twitter screenshot in the OP is Epic Games shillery or something.
It's a fair decision. You have to own the images and other content in the ga,e to sell it. ai might do half the work, providing the code, but you have to vreate the images yourself or own the rights to them.
>*takes a picture of you*
You'll be in my next hentai game too!
Gee, people find me that attractive?
>>>/ic/
>Why is BOT even shilling this?
BOT has been infected by a small band of immature moronic shitters. Anything BOT says is probably the opposite of what is true.
when I used BOT before it did not give a single frick about video games or art. social media was something so far behind them that they weren't in touch about whatever was going on with those sites at all. now when I click on g there's all of these AI gays and twitter gays and vidya gays...
I blame
>steam deck (it's cool but it's BOT culture not BOT culture)
>elon twitter purchase
>mods not banning AI anime art dump threads
>pajeets
Blame reddit a lot of their communities blacked out in protest and all the non-registered homosexuals came here.
I mean since the last couple years not today
t. moronic shitter
everything comes identitarian nowadays, you can thank social media cancer for it
As a 2016 oldgay I can confirm this is true. The site is unfortunetly on a downward trend.
>2016
man you don't even want to know how old I am, and you're still new to me, newbie
2008 ancient beasts rise up
>2016 oldgay
>The site is unfortunetly on a downward trend
If AI is theft than any art involving existing characters Ex: a mario sketch by someone that doesn't work for Nintendo or a sketch of a photograph that doesn't belong to the person that took the photograph
anti-ai morons need to kill themselves
AI learns drawing literally the same way a human would.
If it's legal to learn drawing by looking at images you don't own, then it's also legal for ai.
>skim thread
>no links to any proof
OP is a homosexual as always
How would they know if I used AI to generate soem generic 2d background art?