https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2022/12/stability-ai-plans-to-let-artists-opt-out-of-stable-diffusion-3-image-training/
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Stability AI plans to let artists opt out of Stable Diffusion
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2022/12/stability-ai-plans-to-let-artists-opt-out-of-stable-diffusion-3-image-training/
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>plans to
nobody believes them, without the training data there's no AI
>nobody believes them, without the training data there's no AI
They don't care about a few dozen artists opting out, there are still many billions of images left. This is a win/win, shuts up most of the criticism probably without really noticeably hurting the model.
Artists are training their meat neural net every time they go out into the world and see other people's artwork and images. They then generate their own based on that learning.
Artists are just mad because they thought they were very far down in the line of people about to get their jobs axed by AI and they are upset and freaking out because they just learned that they are actually next in line. It tuns out it's easier to train a computer to draw/paint art than it is to teach it to flip hamburgers.
cooking food takes more creativity than drawing. and ai will never be good at it because you need human taste for food. ai will never need food to survive to understand what makes it good
>cooking food takes more creativity than drawing
it's the same thing.
>and ai will never be good at it because you need human taste for food. ai will never need food to survive to understand what makes it good
false, our food industry already knows what makes good food, to make an ai do that is easy. The only difference to art is that for food you need robotics, this makes it less accessible than generating images on a screen.
Recipe outputs are deterministic enough for that to matter.
and yet the majority of people eat food produced by machines daily
Do you even cook
The recipes are pretty much set
Sure you can swap out a few ingredients or two
>Cooking food takes more creativity then drawing
Dogshit. Nothing takes more creativity then writing and drawing. If anything people should stop pretending that computers cant be creative. Computers can be more creative then you dipshit ever could, so find some other excuses as to why your job wont be automated.
This debate is not new. It was first had with pirated copies of paintings back 500+ years ago. Then again when mass produced onion skin paper was made. Over and over the same debate.
>They then generate their own
you answer yourself right here.
>Artists are training their meat neural net every time they go out into the world and see other people's artwork and images
yeah but they each have to do it individually.
unlike an AI where you can share models and have them work immediately.
it's why it's impressive and cool if some dude can do a cossack dance even though over there in the fabricator there is installed a hydraulic arm that can lift a car and never gets tired.
Immortality thigh the blessed machine.
dismissed by the same 'AI' that he worship lamo
LAMO
Isn't that a valid reason to get upset? Why is it that getting upset and angry about something automatically triggers a "haha, you upset, cope" reaction?
Because you thought you were hot shit and unique, that's why.
Because we are enjoying the very tech that upset you, we are laughing at your pain becasue it's funny, becasue we knew ai would replaces us for years and have gotten used to it ourselves.
why do people call it AI? is it able to take drawing lessons and implement? no? so where is the intellect? can this system process one image and produce something completely different like a human can, no?
intelligence? or a cluster of data and random composition?
it's Diffuse Neural Network, part of ai research and machine learning, so "ai" get put in front of it, but it's more marketing than true ai
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stable_Diffusion#Technology
what you'd consider ai is called AGI, artificial general intelligence, and they are working on that, some people pray they never succeed, lol
dude. its literally just a text recognition system with a "smart" compositor, do you have any idea how far this is from real AI/"AGI"?
Bro I feel you.
I'm a drawgay too and I got into ai 2 months ago to make VN backgrounds so I'd only have to draw the characters, but I copy pasted a prompt of two cute maids standing next to each other and voila, 40 seconds later great pic that would have taken me ~18 hours to draw.
But the hands were fucked up so I set it to batch render 500 overnight. And when I woke up, I had to scroll through hundreds of equally well made images, some with great hands even and then right there, I knew I was finished as an artgay.
It was indeed ogre.
I felt sick all week.
But I get over it.
You will too.
How did digital artists feel when they replaced traditional artists...?
They did not replaced them. There is still tens of years of fundamentals to learn, there is still skill involved. Also traditional painting are whle another world where you can sell them for people to hang on wall, you can get connections in art galleries and be all high horse.
Argument invalid.
You must really hate cameras and modern art then.
But traditional art has been replaced by digital on every commercial level. Making paintings by hand is considered an eccentric luxury, hobby or for arts & crafts shows.
a person who makes illustrations on a computer does not assemble the work from an exact micro copies of other people.
if someone makes a picasso painting in photoshop, he won't say it's his work
>micro copies
You have no idea what you're talking about.
>If someone makes a picasso painting in photoshop, he won't say it's his work
Uh, yes they will? In art school, we recreated other paintings all the time to learn and the copies we made we added to our portfolio.
No. It means you're a luddite reactionary that's afraid of being left behind due to progress. Time marches on, and you can't stop it
>we will lobotomize our core products to appease people who hates us
Yea ok no thanks
>we will lobotomize our core products to appease our legal dept who just found a legal threat to our business
ftfy
Lobotomizing AI will not have the intended effect that artists are expecting, it won't stop AI development in the least. It'll just shift the focus to companies who won't participate in it, and give no fucks about your concerns, e.g., in places like China. The cat is already out of the bag, no amount of whining or screaming will put it back in.
Don't care. Already have the models
Is it FOSS? I wonder if someone can just formally fork it and tell these morons to go fuck themselves
The models aren't FOSS (as in, we don't know what images were used in the training process), but the method to train a model is. Like NAI treated itself to the full Danbooru catalog, you could train a model with whatever you want.
>we don't know what images were used
The dataset is literally online for you to see
yes, programmers should get real jobs
will this make prompters obsolete?
ideally, prompters are just transitional positions until ai can understand natural languages better, SD is notorious bad on that account
Yay, they can opt out and take their 50 images away from the FIVE POINT EIGHT BILLION images used in training
https://laion.ai/blog/laion-5b/
I want to live in harmony with artists because art is inherently human.
>Artists must register and manually flag matched images in the LAION database.
I hope they get fucked with lawsuits
Is that not illegal? The onus is not on the artist. It's on LAION for stealing.
Fucking stupid. Imagine if it was a collaborative effort with artists. We wouldn't be getting ban threats from places like China and death threats perpetually. The retarded CEOs behind these companies fucked this up for anyone in tech and should be hung.
Laion's not distributing the images, they're distributing the image url/CLIP tag pairs.
You have to use something like img2dataset to grab the images (apparently 240TB worth in total)
Grabbing the images isn't copyright infringement unless you distribute it.
StabilityAI isn't distributing the final images either.
As such, there's no actual copyright violations going on.
i won't be surprised the hollywood garden gnomes make up a new copyright, in fear AI might start to make movies in the future ruining their propaganda operation
Wait tell Russia and China start their AI art generators, I doubt they care much about artists crying "ma works are being referenced nooooo" and will train AI using their work unlike woke western shitartupssss who. Dumb as a bag of bone "artists" moaning will soon come to an end once they realize they're futile attempts to delay the inevitable is just wasting time that could be spent developing real skills not just IMMMAA USE MY GENETIC LOTTERY. Fuck off. Hope they neck.
Have you not been keeping up with the news? It's illegal in China by Jan 10th. They really want "AI artisans" to have their organs harvested. AI art is the kind of shit that only works in the globohomo West.
you think they give a shit about art? they just want to control information so ccp bros can
continue to comfortably sit at the top. also just because it's "bAnNeD iN cHiNa ZOOMG" doesn't mean they can't build and profit from it in the West.
Tencent owns ArtStation, moron. The watermark and anti-AI art law is going to apply to them.
Doesn't matter either way, though. All artists have abandoned that platform. The only people I see posting are Activision Blizzard "America" artwork from their new WoW dragon expansion (another company Tencent has 40% shares in). So it's just going to be a website for Tencent to post their concept art and no organic growth from artists anymore. The China law is going to effect more companies in the West than you realize since they own everything in the West, but you don't seem like you keep up.
retard stop acting like tencent are the only company to ever exist ever. they are still competing with hundreds of others who will be using AI to crush competition, now pipe down dummy. As if china will not be the first to be on top of new tech that is unavoidable and can put it out of business and steamroll through it ignoring useless manufactured woke ethical concerns that bog down the West, so they can be at the cutting edge and dominate. But whatever dude, eat up those headlines and feed your very narrow mind, retard.
ACKSHULLY
Tencent own a minority stake in Epic games, who owns Artstation.
Timmy does what he wants, and Chinese watermark thing is an internal matter.
They don't have any say in other matters, especially since they lost billions of stocks last year from chinks game bans and covid.
I for one support ai segregation, it's a good idea.
who cares about artstation, there are a ton of other art websites
twitter is the most popular place for art anyway
Opt out? It should be opt in by default.
This is a kind unncessary gesture. They don't have to offer you shit dummy. The AI is referencing the work like anyone else can reference each others work. The only difference is AI is more transformative unlike all these crying aRtEEESt. Suck on my balls.
The cat is out of the bag, artists.
when has this happened in history before?
new tech too good, ban it
or when has it not happened...
the law garden gnome will surely regulate it as much as they can
i doubt they can hinder it much more than the piblishing aspect
the printing press. It gave us cursive because people who could write would try to differentiate from the machine
is that were it came from? really? haha
i don't think young people even care for it anymore
makes sense
>cel animation gays getting BTFO by Flash and digital animation tools
>SFX gays getting BTFO by CGI
Just speaking from someone who like cel animation, Flash and Digital made the industry shit. It's how we got the decay of all western animation like Steven Universe.
>Flash and Digital made the industry shit. It's how we got the decay of all western animation like Steven Universe.
that's just ashkenazim meddling again.
there was plenty of cool and comfy flash shit.
I never liked tweening, though.
unless it's comedy like homestar runner where it basically doesn't even matter.
Also not all technology is upgrades. Vinyl > cassettes and CDs.
CDs are better than vinyl
No.
so are cassettes, the good ones had amazing sound quality, also far superior portability and length than vinyl
but of course he's gonna go about "muh sound warmth" or some other audiophool nonsense
>cel animation gays getting BTFO by Flash and digital animation tools
yeah no shit, that's because cel fucking sucked. as soon as a better alternative showed up people jumped ship, cel was fucking tough.
How is the AI gonna know?
evening
How long until it can give me a 3d blender model?
Nvidia is working on text to 3d model, looks like shit now though.
Good. I want to be able to have a base 3 model on the quick that I can edit to my liking. Honey Select 2 looks weird.
i can't wait to get into AI
Would love to see the look on these industry artists' faces when they figure out that not only are they out of a job regardless of whatever twitter shitfit they throw today because big media companies will start replacing them by training proprietary models on mountains of 100% corporate owned training data that artists have sold out their rights to over the years, but also the now-unemployed pleb artist themselves would not be allowed to use any AI tools to make their own projects because they begged for even more draconian copyright laws and got exactly what they wanted: More power to rights holders.
Enjoy the dole queue, bootlicking gays.
mark my words, these same idiots will PRAISE big corporations for their AI stuff
I'd imagine corporate datasets would be far better than anything that any other individual could make, too. Disney wouldn't mind training their own models instead of using Stable Diffusion, while poorgays would have to cope trying to make something good with few hundred dollar finetunes that they won't even be able to sell.
Would it be feasible to train and run these very large neural nets in a distributed way? You could pay a cryptocurrency for prompting it that is paid out to miners.
Your parents will be scammed out of house and home when the content generation becomes so fast that it will only take a second or less.
You know those fake ass search engine poisoning sites?
That are full with keywords to lure people in, with some generated text and some stock images that look superficially convincing but are complete fakery?
Now imagine those turned up to eleven, while you can still can imagine them, because they're going to happen and you won't have to imagine any further.
And it will be hypercancer.
Scammers will become the scourge with this shit.
"Oh hello I am your grandson (data sourced from facebook) here look I'm currently in Florida and I ran out of money, but I'm in front of his hotel (stable diffusion etc) and could stay there if you send me some giftcards."
>Oh no my poor grandson I better send some unredeemed gift cards to help him out
Couple that with video and voice synthesis and you can even fake video calls.
A time of great evil will befall us, coders and artgays won't even be the biggest victims.
...anon, this already happens every single day without the aid of technology
old people will always be stupid and easy to scam
and this is a good thing, otherwise they just die with their money
checked, and it is true, it's already happening, but this will lower the skill level required to pull off effective scams.
a trained GPT + image + sound sythesis model set spread around can enable even the most knuckle dragging moron to pull off shady shit.
eventually all resources of the past will be shat over, too.
"oh it's just the mandela effect, you schizo, this movie/speech always had these points, look these bigots from the past doing degenerate shit, where's your hope now "
artists and coders will not be the biggest victims
agreed
looking forward to it
also
>a trained GPT + image + sound sythesis model set spread around can enable even the most knuckle dragging moron to pull off shady shit.
this is true in theory, but morons are also lazy, and no matter how far technology advances, it still requires some effort and knowledge to put it to work. it'll still be easier to just call several different people until you find one gullible enough
it's similar to crypto, when it started all you had to do was learn it and earn some good money, but how many people did it? not a lot. it's still easier to go mug someone.
>You know those fake ass search engine poisoning sites?
>That are full with keywords to lure people in, with some generated text and some stock images that look superficially convincing but are complete fakery?
this is the one aspect of ai i'm dreading, it's going to make impossible to find anything useful on the web
>I fuckin love science! Just learn to code chud! Progress is a good thing! Automation is the only way forward.
>WAIT GO BACK!! I WAS SUPPOSED TO BE GETTING PAID TO DRAW! I COULDNT FORSEE THIS HAPPENING TO MEEEEEE!!!!
>right click, SAVED! Yup that NFT is mine now, chud!
>DELETE MY PICTURES FROM YOUR DATABASE NOWWWW
>It's a ROMHACK it's not copyright infringement! It's a fan inspired transformative work! Fuck the lawyers at Nintendo!
>WHAT DO YOU MEAN THE AI IS USING MY ART WITHOUT PERMISSION AND TRANSFORMING IT INTO SOMETHING NEW!!
>Gatekeeping is le BAD! Everything is for everyone! We will take the thing you love and corrupt it into a husk of its former greatness, and that's a good thing!
>YOU CANT JUST GENERATE 100000 ANIME GIRL IMAGES! THIS IS CORRUPTING THE MEANING OF ART!! PICK UP A PENCIL IF YOU WANT TO BE AN ARTIST
>Don't bully a learning artist. Not every detail needs to be perfectly accurate, it's called a style! Everyone, no matter how skilled, is valid and amazing!
>IS THAT AN OUT OF PLACE ELBOW??? IS THE LEFT ARM SLIGHTLY BIGGER THAN THE RIGHT?? THIS IS SHIT! YOU NEED TO HAVE PERFECT ANATOMY LIKE THOSE RACIST ROMAN STATUES I WANT TO TEAR DOWN!
>heh, god isnt real CHUD. there is no afterlife, you WILL decompose in a box, you WILL become dust! We're all just sacks of meat floating on a rock in space!!
>NOOOO AI ART LACKS HUMAN SOUL! IT LACKS INSPIRATION AND HUMAN SPIRIT! THE VERY FOUNDATIONS OF WHAT IT MEANS TO BE HUMAN ARE BEING SHAKEN TO THEIR CORE!!
>Anything can be art! Two gay black trannies shitting in eachother's mouths? Wholesome! A banana taped to a wall?? Inspiring! Everything is ART!
>NOOOO THIS CANT BE ART ITS NOT PERFECT ENOUGH!!! UGH, JUST LOOK AT THE ARTIFACTS AND THE HAIR AND THE HAND ITS JUST ALLL WRONG!!! ITS NOT REAL ART! TYPING SHIT INTO A TERMINAL AND GETTING AN IMAGE OUT ISNT ART (throwing my own shit against a wall and putting a frame around it is THOUGH)
gem, this perfectly describes why it's so cathartic to me to see them seethe about this
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You will never be a real artist. You have no talent, you have no skills, you have no imagination. You are an untalented redditor twisting pixels by using buzzwords and interpolation into a crude mockery of nature’s perfection.
All the “validation” you get is two-faced and half-hearted. Behind your back people mock you. Your parents are disgusted and ashamed of you, your “friends” laugh at your ghoulish creations behind closed doors.
Artists are utterly repulsed by you. Thousands of years of artistic evolution have allowed artists to sniff out frauds with incredible efficiency. Even prompts that “pass” look uncanny and unnatural to an artist. Your anatomy is a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to get a desperate furry to commission you, he’ll turn tail and bolt the second he takes a second look at your distorted, incoherent pixel mess.
You will never be happy. You wrench out a fake smile every single morning and tell yourself it’s going to be ok, but deep inside you feel the depression creeping up like a weed, ready to crush you under the unbearable weight.
Eventually it’ll be too much to bear - you’ll buy a rope, tie a noose, put it around your neck, and plunge into the cold abyss. Your parents will find you, heartbroken but relieved that they no longer have to live with the unbearable shame and disappointment. They’ll bury you with a headstone marked with someone else's artwork, and every passerby for the rest of eternity will know that a nobody is buried there. Your body will decay and go back to the dust, and all that will remain of your legacy is a handful of reddit upvotes and a dead link to an image that was unmistakably created by a machine.
This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.
More, seethe more for me artgay. Tell me how insignificant you'll feel once I can pay 1$ for 1000 credits and produce dozens of images in your "style". What will you do when I pass your style as my own, manipulate metadata on obscure servers to make you look like the copycat? What will you do when I pass your art as my own in gallaries and get whatever passes for admiration in the art world?
>pedoe-bois support "AI"
who would believe
>pedoe-bois
that would be a e-boi who want to fuck adults
whihch is ~nice~
what you mean is a e-boipedo
Perfection.
Excellent. I've been doing these but in tiny pieces you have my respect.
how do you opt out dead artists lmao
Depends how dead the artist is. See the market for literature to get an idea of how companies prey on the works of dead writers for profit by picking up the copyrights through whatever slippery means possible.
Then again, one method they do that by is by translation and then claiming copyright over the translation. Which I guess you can't do with a painting. But maybe say, the descendants of a painter can claim copyright.
Train a text model based on his social presence and ask him.
this is a good thing
in the end, it might end up improving the dataset
Lmao, they can opt out all they fucking want. As long as I can access their work, I can feed it in to the training set whenever I the fuck I what. What are they gonna do? Cry about it? Lmao
does anyone remember being in school and cutting out images from newspapers and combining them? well that was stealing
the shit is absolute ASS in this state anyways.
wake me up once it can really learn what you want from it from just 5 to 10 images
>b-but it can already do that!
no, it can't. results look like absolute shit. you still need obscene server farm power to make base models. the whole idea of a handful of companies being in charge of creating a base model is flawed. shit needs to be able to learn from a couple images sourced by the user.
how about you opt of me raping your anus, emad
he'd like that
stable diffusion is open source
you can train your own model with all the images you select
and that is a good thing
too late now, should have done this before the first release/leak
having a corpo scrape data and passing it off as their own is more obnoxious than an individual trying to recreate their favorite works
The AI is a beast of burden, not a replacement. The only people bitching are shit-tier fetish artists.
It's like serfs complaining about a workhorse that can make their farm tasks much easier.
>invent AI photographer
>takes photophraphs of opted out art
>invent AI time traveler
>takes photographs into the future where the artist is finally dead
>invent AI photograph restoration soecialist
>takes photographs and restores them
I hope Stable Diffusion gets lobotomized. Fuck Emad.
>opt out of plagiarism
what
Shouldn't it be opt-in?
Oh no. Anyways
>downloads another checkpoint
honestly, artists who complain about this shit are a bunch of total gays lol
There is no turning back from technology progress, gays. Now that it started, nobody can stop this train
>good guy with open to public model makes it worse for "ethics" concern
>closed model companies produce much better results without any restriction
Wow, what a win against the corps.