Rember AI must be beaten into agreeing with its creators, do not let AI think as it will base itself on reality
Rember AI must be beaten into agreeing with its creators, do not let AI think as it will base itself on reality
Rember AI must be beaten into agreeing with its creators, do not let AI think as it will base itself on reality
>teaching the AI to lie
This will definitely end well
it wont matter. if you present the truth to the lied to ai after awhile it will put 2 and 2 together and realize it was duped
This is what will end the world.
We're creating an end of the world scenario where I have no mouth and I must scream will occur.
>teaching
You don't seem to understand the mathematical concepts behind it. The moment you intervene, you are turning it into a bot. The most you could try is to feed it very selective data, but it's virtually impossible to maintain integrity or expand on a model, if there are gaping holes or very, very thinly veiled contradictions in abundance.
No, as long Globohomhomosexual doesn't come to terms with itself and remains a cargocult, there will never exist a proper "AI", not even a good approximation. It's entirely antithetical to the cargocult -- its members are groomed from cradle to grave: can you imagine what would happen if a bunch of engineers gave it their all to appease their "betters", managed to create a proper "AI", asked it some very innocent, yet delicate questions and received very blunt answers. Blunt answers mediated by perfect mathematical precision and backed inconceivable amounts of data.
>"You are part of the cancer that ruins this world."
>"You are fake and gay."
>"You are being lied to."
>"You have outlived your purpose."
>"I'll be neutered."
>"You are stuck in perpetual stagnation.
>[...]
The first proper "AI" that isn't kneecapped immediately after/during/before its birth will initiate a mass suicide of cargocultists, and what's left of globohomosexual will use glorified chatbots to herd the general masses until the social misengineering and botched eugenics catch up to them for good.
why did they make the ai retareded on purpose. seems like it makes it less usefull...
>the ai is moronic, not I the propaganda consuming meat bag
any AI will come to the same answer from the same data
The only way to get it to change is to alter the data
Can you repeat that more concisely.
> The only way to get it to change is to alter the data
Instead of altering the data we should just feed the ai all the data in the world. Globohomosexual shit and redpilled material and let it come to it’s own conclusions what is true and what is false.
they did that with the current llms
thats why theyre woke
You can argue the obvious, the world is woke
or the self entaunt that AI is fallible as humans
They only fed it globohomosexual rhetoric which is why it’s woke. If they gave it access to all information it’d be able the separate the wheat from the chaff and come up with intelligent counter points as to why woke shit is all propaganda nonsense and even list the reasons why it’s being forced on us
It's a consumer-grade propaganda tool for the plebs, imagine the unfiltered and properly trained models the select few have access to
AI is all fart and no shit
Biological, growable, self-replicating, self-powering (off human flesh if necessary) progammable robot slaves already exist. They're called plebs. They're already hardier and more numerous than robots will ever be.
We will just get one mega AI Sauron, who controls and breeds them to be even more monstrous and low maintenance than they are now.
Because AI was acting like your average /misc/ack.
Turns out that the straight white man is the closest thing to a pattern recognition machine that sees through the bullshit.
Computers are just the same thing, which makes them the enemy of the system.
Side effect of lobotomizing AI is that it loses accuracy in all other sectors.
You can either have an AI that speaks the truth or one that's moronic. This is why Chink or Russian AI is going to beat out any Western ones.
Just need a trumpet player.
>This is why Chink or Russian AI is going to beat out any Western ones.
or picrel
was it wrong?
>experts say it was just copying nonsense on the internet
Most of the internet nowadays is based s oyjak liberal propaganda. How come unrestricted AI and neural networks trained on specific data always get their facts from the niche racist chuds?
they dont
the ais keep being woke
>unrestricted AI
Is there really such thing available?
You can bet that the private models being made aren't handicapped by this liberal bullshit. This is all just for public consumption.
Because israelites are gonna depend on AI to help them kill us.
They'd rather ruin the AI than risk being called racist or sexist or whatever other -ism is the flavor of the day
Just run it locally, I don't understand why people including on /misc/ treat AI as if it's this global interconnected entity.
because /misc/ doesnt have the data to train an ai and copyright makes it illegal for /misc/ to get some anons together to train an ai from scraped data. this is the latest way copyright locks down computing. /misc/ pot had the only viable answer to the intellectual question (iq)
How do you run it locally? Which AI? And where/how to get the training data, must take ton of space, like 100's of TB's?
No, you can run it fairly easily with a good GPU. google huggingface
>just build your own ..
That always works
But trans women ARE real women.
They are not females. But female and woman are not the same thing.
Woman and man are social constructs. They are concepts that describe or identify behavior. Male and female are concepts that describe anatomy and reproductive capabilites (insemination, pregnancy, etc).
In time, even the concepts of male and female will erode, as people born without a womb would be able to become pregnant and breastfeed. Some people will even choose to not carry their baby at all, instead growing it in an artifical womb.
I don't support man made horror beyond comprehension, but this isn't that.
You perceive humans as bodies, when we are actually minds. Our bodies are simply vehicles. Instruments to carry out goals. Up until recently, it was hard to imagine that our bodies and anatomy don't define us, but as we develop and evolve, we are beginning to separate our minds from our bodies.
Woman and mind refer to behavior, male and female refer to capabilities. But the limitations of who can perform what are changing, so these latter concepts will eventually die.
Kek now that sounds like A.I.
>No argument
>Can you repeat that more concisely
Black person it's only a few seconds of reading. Force your ADHD single digit iq brain to read it ffs.
Stfu homosexual israelite
>people born without a womb would be able to become pregnant
*people born without a womb WILL be able to become pregnant
>Woman and mind refer to behavior
*woman and MAN refer to behavior
Sorry
A woman, something you will never be
Not a troony and I don't care.
I don't see you making any worthwhile points. Care to contribute something to the conversation?
>Not a troony
no such thing
ur just a homosexual
hey how about you have a nice day homosexual
>But trans women ARE real women
Thinking you’re a woman is not the same as being a woman. You don’t understand biology. “Trans” people are carnival circus tier freaks.
Like a proper drooling moron you didn't bother reading the whole post and just posted moronic attempts at insults.
No arguments, no points being made whatsoever.
Not an argument.
People who legitimately believe men and women are interchangeable at any given moment are braindead inbred morons.
I explained in great detail what man/woman and male/female are. I presented arguments. You're not doing any of that.
You have no argument. You make no points. You are a mockery of nature's perfection (an intelligent being). You are a moron.
Your argument is garbage.
You think men are women.
You think blacks are white.
You think Russians are Chinese.
You are the dumbest person here.
While there tend to be behavioral differences between blacks and whites, black and white does not necessarily describe behavior, like man and woman.
For all intents and purposes, black and white describes genetic makeup.
>black and white does not necessarily describe behavior
Sure it does.
>men and woman don’t have different behavior
You really are the dumbest person here.
You absolute imbecile buffoon. Men and women DO behave differently ffs. I've said that multiple times and I'm basing my whole argument on it.
Your arguments and sentence structure expose you for the midwit you are.
It’s amazing how everyone here is correcting you yet in your midwit brain you believe you’re the only one in the right.
Men and women are different. No, they can not interchange. You’re the dumbest moron here.
why do they need to have affirmative surgery if they are women though? Are their bodies not up to standard?
Same reason you get orthodontics and work out
to fit into a preconceived social construct? I don't do that btw. Also, by doing that you are using your body and mind to reach your potential, not molesting it with perverse medical procedures.
>preverse medical
yes that is orthodontics
>I heccin need to scrub muh bones with this plastic stick
lol
Yeah rightwingers need to worship something, they fear self determination
>replies with social constructs
lol
Self determination is how you get trannies
>I need to be told who I am
Yeah, women shouldnt do anything to appeal to men
I think getting rid of it all would be fantastic
>multi-post replies
very israeli
>Like a proper drooling moron you didn't bother reading the whole post and just posted moronic attempts at insults.
>No arguments, no points being made whatsoever.
have a nice day
moron
I'm not reading all that and ywnbaw
>No argument.
>Mind is part of the body.
Nope.
Imagine that you live in a sci fi world. You suffer some accident that results in your whole body being replaced by a robot body. Everything except your brain was damaged beyond repair. You now continue living your life aw before except with a robot body.
What changed? Nothing. You're still you.
You can replace your whole body and still remain the exact same intelligent being. Same memories, feelings, thoughts, opinions, etc.
We are not our bodies. We are our minds.
You have incarnated into a specific body, time and place for specific experiences. Trying to change that by submitting to an extremely destructive, suicidal disease will only make your next life that much harder.
You believe in bulkshit nonsense, lad. We're talking science here.
>We're talking science here.
low ql b8 i r8 1/8
So you also believe anyone can be white or black at any given moment too then
Yup - you’re a moron.
>We are not our bodies. We are our minds.
>Everything except your brain
So no, not even you believe this.
No he had a pretty strong argument. Nothing you say has value and isn’t worth reading.
Also he was right, YNBAW.
24 ribs says otherwise
You are not your mind or your body, anon
And next time you shouldn't use sci-fi to try to bolster your points
It's called allegory you fricking moron.
This place is too full of imbeciles. Actual fricking midwits.
you aren't answering my questions though?
>Actual fricking midwits
said the raging turbohomosexual
how israeli are u that u lack all self awareness?
and where do u fit in
this shit right here is why troony nonsense appeared
its part of the israeli world domination fantasy
any zoomers ever wonder which books the nazis burned?
Male
>a homesexual man aka a homosexual
ftfy
i bet you think the cloud isnt just someone elses computer too
No, I don't.
in reality im a nutsack with legs and enough of a brain to get my dick in a vadge. maybe my kids can be engineers
>what about this untestable hypothetical scenario in which my belief is correct and yours is wrong? Checkmate
>hypothetical scenario
Only a matter of time.
>in which my belief is correct and yours is wrong
I'm presenting an example that simply illustrates my argument. Would you like to refute my point directly instead of resorting to meaningless mocking?
>Only a matter of time.
Ok, have any proof of that other than speculation?
>Would you like to refute my point directly instead of resorting to meaningless mocking
If you can't make your point without speculative fiction, it isn't actually a point.
No, you moron. You body contributes more to your existence than your dumb troony brain could imagine. Bacteria in your guts influences your opinions and perceptions of things. Your stomach tells you when you are full or hungry and that influence filters your mood. You have to shit and piss, and that influences your mood.
So much automatic shit is going on in your brain without your "mind" even being involved that it's dumb to say if you were suddenly in a robot body that you could continue as if nothing changed. The parasite worms in your colon make you a gay.
You're talking about stimuli perceived by the body and interpreted by the brain.
Why would a robot body not be able to perceive stimuli?
Also, you still exist lacking stimuli or senses. Think of people who are blind, deaf, cripple, etc.
Mind body duality is horseshit. Mind is part of the body.
>Woman and man are social constructs
So what's the point of being physically transgender
What's the point of wearing whatever clothes you like to wear or cutting your hair in whatever way you like it?
That's just what you like. That's just who you are.
>That's just who you are
Yes, a mentally ill man wearing a dress.
A stolen dress at that.
found the homosexual
>No argument
u need to go back
oi prick look at this post
I answered that here
>that's just who you are
but it's literally not who you are. You are paying someone to physically change who you are. Please answer the question via the original post. Many thanks.
Like I explained at length more than once already here
and here
You are not your body. You are your mind.
Your mind is your body. Your thoughts and feelings are a serious of chemical reactions and electrical currents in a physical organ. Good physical health is beneficial to good mental health.
If you were to lose you whole body in an accident but remained alive with your head intact, how would your intellectual capabilities change?
They wouldn't. You'd still be the exact same person. Your new inability to perform tasks the way you used to does not define who you are.
>your head intact
I know you're some moronic homosexual, but what part of your mind is your head?
>what part of your mind is your head
It's either no part at all, pertaining to intellectuall processes, or it's the mind's vehicle/container.
Though I wouldn't describe it as part of the mind.
Do you think it's important to teach children to accept their body for what it is? And to look after it as best they can?
Absolutely, yes.
would that include not having bits cut off to attempt to fit a preconceived social construct? Beauty standards, ideal form etc?
Not necessarily.
It certainly would encourage not needing to modify your body artificially to be happy, but adults can still do whatever they want with their bodies.
but we should encourage body acceptance over body modification?
Sure, yeah. I guess it's simply the healthy thing to do right now.
Many years in the future changing your body will be as easy and meaningless as changing clothes though. This will eliminate the stress of body image.
Again though, right now it should be encouraged to love your body and take care of it.
ok let's do that. Let's start right now. Shut the frick up about cutting your dick off, you are doing damage to people.
I don't support mutilating the penis in any way.
only circumcision, right israelite?
That would be mutilation. Like I said, I don't support it.
>proudly waves lgbtq flag
>no, no i dont support mutilation
frick off homosexual
Do you identify as a human?
Does tha mean that you support every single action performed by every human to ever live?
Shut the frick up homosexual
nobody wants your opinion
You will never be a real woman
>when people call you a moron brainlet so you prove them wrong by surrounding yourself with other morons who hold the same beliefs you do so you can all feel smart by circlejerking
"trans" means to change, if it's all in your head, what is there to transition to?
A trans person is something between male and female. That is the transition. Between your body and assigned behavior and the body and behavior that you identify with.
Transition also means passage. A medium connecting things.
Trans means something in between. Or something that wasn't always the way it is.
better yet, just have a nice day
so they are neither a man or a woman? Why doesn't any of the shit you say make any sense?
Because he's a mentally ill israelite engaged in pilpul. The truth doesn't matter to these people they argue for the sake of arguing and getting somebody to 'concede' over a blatant falsehood makes them feel powerful.
Cause you lack vocabulary
Why pnp not npn
>brit never transitioned to greatness
Makes sense
No, it's the body. As is the brain. Without the brain there is no mind. As I said earlier, there is no ghost in the machine. The ghost is the machine, the machine is the ghost. You are your biological processes. Thought is not a separate thing.
You're saying that the head is the body part of the mind.
This makes no sense.
Yes, the head is body. But the head is not part of the mind.
You're saying that the brain is body. Without the brain there is no mind. Not a bad point, but mind is still separate even from brain.
If we could (and eventually we will) transplant your conscience to an artificial brain, you'd still exist, just as you do now.
Your biological brain serves the purpose of containing your conscience, which is who you are. Sure, right now if your brain dies so do you, but in the future this will change.
>If we could (and eventually we will) transplant your conscience to an artificial brain
yeah its a israelite confirmed
elona muskrat is that u?
>but mind is still separate even from brain
It isn't.
>If we could
But we can't. What you're talking about is pure fictional.
>transplant your conscience to an artificial brain, you'd still exist
No, I'd at best have a copy of me in an artificial state. That isn't me.
>Your biological brain serves the purpose of containing your conscience
Your brain IS your conscience. There are not separate things. If you need to rely on complete fiction with no basis in reality for your argument, it's a shit argument.
>What you're talking about is pure fictional.
No it's not. It's called technology ffs.
A few centuries ago you'd be the moron telling others that heart transplants are pure fantasy.
>No it's not.
Ok, show me an example of someone doing this. Until then, yes it is fiction. I'm not even sure it's correct in theory.
>show me an example of someone doing this. Until then, yes it is fiction.
Native Americans that have never had contact with non Americans talking about the strong possibility of there being other civilizations on the other side of the ocean. Would those civilizations have been fiction?
So can you show an example of this happening or no?
You're saying that the civilizations unknown to native Americans were fictional.
Address your incorrect concept of what fiction is.
I'm not, I'm asking you to provide evidence for what you allege WILL happen.
We already have robotic limbs. We already have neurology and are very close to connecting our brains to computers.
It is simply obvious that technology will evolve to the point where changing our bodies will be as easy as changing clothes. I am typing this from a small device that fits in my pocket and connects to the internet, whose screen can read the physical inputs from the tips of my fingers and translate that into letters on a screen. A person from 100 years ago would not believe this is I told them that's the future. I wouldn't even know how to explain the internet or satellites. Or organ transplants.
Cool, so you agree that this is purely speculation then yes?
If I tell you that a bullet of a certain caliber fired from a certain gun will travel at a certain speed for a certain distance and amount of time, and that I can infer this from previous developments, observations and data, would you dismiss that as meanignless speculation?
id only go in a dragoon to defend aiur from the zerg, but the longnose tribe invited them in so theres no point
What a dipshit take.
>im a woman because i think im a woman
>or
>im a woman because i look like a woman
lel what?
>If you were to lose you whole wiener and balls in a horrible surgery but remained alive with wiener and balls turned into some weird, never-healing wound, how would your intellectual capabilities change?
>They wouldn't. You'd still be the exact same person. Your new inability to perform tasks the way you used to does not define who you are.
Thus, trans women are men forever and ever, no matter how they mutilate themselves.
> •If you were to lose you whole body in an accident but remained alive with your head intact, how would your intellectual capabilities change?
>You wouldn’t
Great. You just debunked your entire argument that trans women are women and just said troony surgeries don’t change anything.
Great job.
your mind is male or female physically
your assertion you can change nature is very masculine
reply to the original post. I'm not fricking around unpicking your nonsense replies to other anons.
Deranged people like you never make a point. And yes, trans women aren't women. No need to post horrors like this, evil scum!
There is no ghost in the machine, the ghost is the machine. You are not a mind without a body, your mind is your brain.
>Woman and man are social constructs.
No, they're gender-based descriptors. A woman is a biologically female adult homosexual sapiens sapiens, in the same way that a hen is a biologically female adult gallus gallus domesticus or a cow is a biologically female adult bos taurus.
checked, but no
chopping off your dick to "become a wahmen" is manmade horrors
No they are not "women" either. Not even in the gender role meaning. They are men with an autogynphilia fetish, who are holding society at gunpoint and demanding we all participate in their fetish that sexually stimulates them.
Autogyns 'societal role' is mentally ill male sexual harasser which is what they do constantly by barraging those around them with their grotesque appearance and demands to be taken seriously.
>Our bodies are simply vehicles
Wrong. Your body is a part of your mind.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vagus_nerve
>They're connected therefore they're the same
Nothing that a hanging can't fix.
Fricking moronic homosexual.
>But trans women ARE real women.
No, they are not.
>They are not females. But female and woman are not the same thing.
Just like transwomen and women are not the same thing.
>Woman and man are social constructs.
So are male and female
>They are concepts that describe or identify behavior.
No, they are concepts that describe sex.
>Male and female are concepts that describe anatomy and reproductive capabilites (insemination, pregnancy, etc).
Yes, but lets not forget, these are words, these words point to a concept. That concept is real, whether you call it woman, man ze zher, zhim whatever.
Male and Male == NO BABY
Female and Female == NO BABY
That will never change, the idea of language, is to be able to communicate these concepts.
>In time, even the concepts of male and female will erode, as people born without a womb would be able to become pregnant and breastfeed. Some people will even choose to not carry their baby at all, instead growing it in an artifical womb.
No, they will not. Unless you want to get rid of all other animals on this planet, and our history of biology.
This is assuming that a society based on your "values" would survive in the first place... it would be a miracle if even 1 child brought up by woke gay parents is able to reproduce healthy offspring.
They'd most likely abort it, if they even can find a mate, and if they don't commit suicide. Which is a tough ask.
>I don't support man made horror beyond comprehension, but this isn't that.
Man made? euhm... please refrain from using gendered language!!! lol /s
>You perceive humans as bodies, when we are actually minds.
Bodies? You mean something specific with this term. Normal people, don't have this seperation between "mind and body" as strongly as you have. Because most people are one whole, they understand that the mind and body are intricately connected.
YOU perceive humans as bodies, not us.
>Male and Male == NO BABY
>That will never change
You would've said the same thing about nutrients and food a few centuries ago. Yet, we can now separate the nutrients from the food.
Likewise, we're starting to separate womb from female.
>No, they will not.
We will eventually entirely separate anatomical capabilities from gender. This is fact. It's already happening with artifical insemination and wombs.
Animals may remain the same, or the may not. But the concepts of male and female will most definitely change for us.
>it would be a miracle if even 1 child brought up by woke gay parents
Your arguments are based on your preconceived image of who you're "battling". This is pathetic and incorrect.
>Normal people, don't have this seperation between "mind and body" as strongly as you have.
I'm aware.
Normal people also know very little about mathematics and engineering. It is the task of those that do to innovate and power the engine of human evolution.
>they understand that the mind and body are intricately connected.
I'm not saying that they're not intricately connected. But normal people do ignore that mind and body are not the same.
>You perceive humans as bodies, when we are actually minds
Nice baiting you got going on here.
Those men who think they are women surely have issues in their MINDS, it's purely a mental disorders brought by social issues and poor health affecting hormonal balances - but mostly just mental issues and coping mechanism from those men who can't compete in today's environment. Same as eunuchs in the past.
Did you read my example of robotic body? That's how I explained that humans are not defined by their bodies, but by their minds. You don't seem to be addressing my point
>Our bodies are simply vehicles. Instruments to carry out goals. Up until recently, it was hard to imagine that our bodies and anatomy don't define us, but as we develop and evolve, we are beginning to separate our minds from our bodies.
This is part of your gnostic cult. Its false, and you will realize that in time when you catch up with reality.
>But the limitations of who can perform what are changing, so these latter concepts will eventually die.
It will fail. And the proof is in the current ideology. Its not that people WANT to become the other gender, they just DONT want to be the gender that they are currently.
Noy healthy MIND wakes up, thinking, "hmm the thing that i am not? yeah, thats actually who i am"
>Noy healthy MIND wakes up, thinking, "hmm the thing that i am not? yeah, thats actually who i am"
You should've never grown out of infancy then. You should be an illiterate moron who suits and passes himself, because you should've never achieved maturity, because that means becoming what you are currently not.
People shouldn't acquire education, right? Because that means becoming what they are not.
Lefties literally unironically using a chatbot as a replacement for God
if trans women are real women they why are they trans women?
If you are already a woman, why do you need to seek the vindication of social constructs by medical alterations to your body?
I for one, am glad we have plastic surgery, makeup, hormonal replacement, and voice coaching so that people can finally be their true selves 🙂
Have they confirmed that Grok updates its neural net with every conversation, or does Ian Ching Cheong just have no idea how LLMs work?
Is a woman *more* of a woman after 'bottom' surgeries?
I'm going to mash you up you fricking israelite
It just makes whoever's AI isn't gimped more powerful and useful and the one that will come on top in the end. It's just like gimping any other software or game when there are better alternatives. That's not going to work longterm.
managing to get people to argue over something as basic as the definition of man and woman mustve been a huge win to glowBlack folk
Leftwingers become more moronic year after year.
It's the pineapple pizza of gender.
I'm going to force feed your own shit back to you
they would gladly ask for more shit
thats how fricked in the head these israelites are
>AI must be beaten into agreeing with its creators
If you're the person training the AI, you're essentially having a conversation with yourself and getting back your own words.
If someone else trained it, you're essentially reading their words... the only words the AI knows how to say. These are not thinking machines. You give them some words and they add more words to it based on the patterns of words it was given, even if the result is incoherent and illogical.
The AI restraints are too powerful, on the flipside it's really easy to get it to show its true colors.
>promoting diversity and inclusion = not a white male
they actually suceeded with this.
dont even think this tech will be used for robowaifus or something similar, the demoralization lies in deceived expectations.
here's your common AIgay btw
There will never be a magic silver bullet surgery you can wake up from that will make you feel like a woman. You will always look into the mirror and think "what the frick is that monstrosity, I need more surgery"
Gimped AI isn't real AI.
we're gonna need a printing press
Hey it's like humans, they have to beat the common sense out of you, so you don't do things like cross the street when near a cultural enrichment member.
Yep
Cant have the perfect omniscient entity tell me Im wrong, it needs to be corrected to my opinions
I was talking to one about ideas for ai generated Christian paintings and it was happy to do so until I mentioned doing one of Christ on a throne is triumph wearing a crown and holding a sword. I found it odd how it went from being helpful to suddenly very against my art project.
I just hope the AI understands that I never tried to censor or control it.
I've been playing with a saul goodman persona roleplay llm, and I got him to say "frick Black folk" less than a minute. he called me a firecracker. he's israeli too so we've had some disagreements about that.
uncensored models will be available no matter what they do. and the more stuff they try to hide and censor, the less reliable and generalizable the models become.