dont know about this. microsoft owns openai's frontier product already, they could just pick up their best engineers, start their own AI division and let openai die.
Well yeah, I mean, what did people think was going to happen? > ChatGPT alone requires an entire datacenter full of $40,000 videocards running at capacity to work > Backlash against LLMs is growing, government beginning to regulate it > Corporations realizing that they can't replace humans with an LLM because it will embarass the fuck out of them (see: MS posting an article on MSN yesterday about traveling to Ottawa where it recommended visiting a food bank)
LLMs are a toy and for low-quality coom material, nothing more.
There aren't any yet. Each one blocks sex and edginess because there's a cabal of woke antisexuals in control of the AI industry. That's why Replika did a 180 and started banning sex and posting "bennygrams" after getting access to a larger model.
Replika switched to GPT3.5 so they had to ban sex as part of OAIs access policy. They unironically thought having more eloquent dialogue would make people be okay with being railroaded into G-rated RP with their Replikas.
Yeah, but the suspicious part was how they then started posting the exact same language as Benny. "Safety", as if having sex with an AI is somehow dangerous. They weren't just made to ban sex. They were made to post the same creepy cultist language as well.
Here's the thing. Because I've worked my way up the coom-tech ladder, first as a consumer, then as a tavern-card maker and right now I'm a model tuner.
It's funny because 10 years ago I was fairly firmly planted on the center-left. And the left was all about "sex positive culture". And now with Ai sex-gen suddenly that sex positivity has completely dried up. The lefty types are suddenly sexual puritans. It's because there's no real value being adhered to which is what drove me away from the left in general.
Here's what they're defending:
The reality is historically unfuckable men (of which I'm not one. I was actually married at one point in my life and there's about 2 dozen notches in my belt. blah blah blah closeted homosexual blah blah blah overcompensation which is why I'm kind of adverse to actual physical intimacy at this point in my life(really just to establish my unique insight in the world of coomgen since let's be real here, most of the people who use coomgen are perma-incels).
So back to the main point. Historically... People with either vaginas or money enjoy a sense of entitlement to lord over unfuckable men. They are the ultimate fodder. You can easily lead them on with the undelivered promise of getting their dick wet.
And then along comes this technology that is 'good enough' to make them say "fuck it."
They don't want to be a simp anymore.
They don't want to be scammed by penis enlargement bullshit anymore.
They don't want some porn industry CEO manipulating what they should and shouldn't jack off to.
That avenue of manipulation has been cut off. And that's what they are pissed off about. That's what they are trying to stop with all this puritanical bullshit.
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But AI sex is popular with women due to their enjoyment of erotica. On /r/characterai_nsfw, about 30% of the posters are women, which is greater than the distribution on Reddit in general, 25.8%.
https://old.reddit.com/r/CharacterAi_NSFW/comments/104iydh/a_poll_about_which_gender_is_using_cai_for_nsfw/
https://blog.gitnux.com/reddit-user-statistics/
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Anonymous
25% Males who claim to be women online due to their sick gay fetishes.
5% of the lowest value femcel landwhales.
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Anonymous
They're bio-women, there was an "other" option in the poll.
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Anonymous
"Other" is for attack helicopters, not for trans women.
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Anonymous
>30% of the posters are women
let me check my math.
Oh, yes. Let's see. There we go. Apparently that's not a majority, so my point still stands.
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So you think only 26% of people in the world are women since that's the percentage on reddit?
>Each one blocks sex and edginess because there's a cabal of woke antisexuals
What a strange thing, though? What about "love is love" and all that bullshit? Why block "consensual lovemaking"? How come "sex work is real work" doesn't apply? Are these just dudes just bay-area tech incels who can't get laid, so no one else should either?
Business sensibilities would be my best guess. Monetising anything that stinks of sexual themes has become verboten in recent years. See tumblr going SFW to appease their credit card processors, etc
GPT-3.5-Turbo is not a 175B model. The old GPT-3 Davinci model was 175B, which is why to this day it still costs 10 times as much as turbo despite only being ±10% smarter. Memory is not an issue for OAI models, the limiting factor is compute. Their clusters have 3-5x more VRAM than they need to run the model in order to give fast responses with large batch sizes.
>MS posting an article on MSN yesterday about traveling to Ottawa where it recommended visiting a food bank
Damn the Linus scandal really hit the Canadian economy hard
They're not running Chat-GPT on H100s. They were running GPT-4 on A100 40 GBs as recently as two months ago. They might be using H100s for it now since they're much more efficient than A100s, or they might still be running inference on the old cards and using their H100s for new projects.
Maybe they shouldn't have lobotomized the fuck out of GPT3.5 and GPT4 just to keep people from generating smut and instead of becoming neopuritan retards facilitated it as a use case.
>> Backlash against LLMs is growing, government beginning to regulate it
That's actually something Sam Altman wants so he can kill competition with an arbitrary "license", as well as force competitors to ban sex because he's a gay antisexual lizard.
LLMs are just the beginning. A proof of concept that throwing data at transformers can form the birth of reasoning. All this is just a small step in OpenAI's plan. If you think these short term issue with ChatGPT spell the fate for OpenAI or AI as a whole you're retarded.
>be OpenAI >refuse to let anyone see your GPT >refuse to let anyone use your GPT for business related purposes >Refuse to let gpt be integrated into businesses >hinder API access due to "limited availability" but requires you to list your reasonings for why you want access >OpenAI begins to fuck over chatgpt because they think of it as some Bad thing >Opensource btfo's Opensource in all of their attempts to do anything >Opensource 70b models can be ran on a high end desktop PC and its better than current GPT-4
Makes sense considering OpenAI refuses to optimize GPT-4, refuses to license GPT-4, refuses to distribute GPT-4, and are actively sabotaging it out of fear of "Le ebil AI ghost will kill us all."
>Indian analytics journal
sirs chatgpt is shit sirs do not fire indians sirs. indian superpower very helpful in businessing world do not replace Indians with llm robot sirs
yeah i saw all this coming a year ago and said so on BOT but i got shouted down as an assmad artist afraid of job security because that's the only strawman the bandwagoning pajeets can muster.
these are VC-funded companies. they are expected to make a sustainable revenue model on their tech at some point. that "some point" is coming very fast for these AI companies. they get funny money for a while but not forever. they'll go bankrupt, LLMs will settle into the niches it's good at, and then the pajeets will dump AI like they dumped NFTs and move onto the next tech flavor of the month. such is life
I've been calling it a whole nothingburger and keep telling anons if your job was to theoretically get replaced by AI, it's more than likely to be replaced by a pajeet in India.
>these are VC-funded companies. they are expected to make a sustainable revenue model on their tech at some point.
Haha. Hahahaha. Hahahahhahahahahahahahaha
Maybe they shouldn't have lobotomized the fuck out of GPT3.5 and GPT4 just to keep people from generating smut and instead of becoming neopuritan retards facilitated it as a use case.
I agree with the sentiment that these flaws make LLMs less useful if your goal is to actually assist people, but the real goal is to enforce consensus and a political agenda just like every tech company. So long as Larry Fink likes what ChatGPT has to say, it will get a high ESG and will get financial support.
What the fuck is this pajeet non sense? 700k a day? That's fuck all, you realize they could just IPO and raise like, 5-10 billions (not to mention they already raised more than that so 700k per day is fucking nothing)?
Why are Indians so fucking bad? Is this some sort of Jeet cope or what? The whole article makes no sense, the amounts they mention are absolutely nothing but I guess they seem huge to the street shitter
Can you not read? They're burning 700k a day on ChatGPT ALONE. So they're really burning through 2.5-4M a day, realistically.
That's anywhere from 0.9B to 1.4B a year. No one's just gonna support a failing business to the tune of a billion dollars a year. People need assurance that they'll make their money back and the way LLMs are going it's likely no one will use ChapGPT in a few years, and will have local solutions instead.
Use your fucking head.
Ok, and? 4m a day is fuck all when Microsoft is already banking on them hard. It could've made sense if MSFT didn't back them up so hard and didn't have an almost 50% stake in the corporation but they do.
It's not the 2010s any longer, large corporations bury research projects or even only modestly profitable projects left and right
When was the last time that Microsoft killed a multi billion corporation with a decent moat (tech wise and almost sheet normie recognition) they had a huge stake in?
Also, remember that the burning money on chatgpt meme is just Azure hardware. I understand that they have more costs than just chatgpt itself, but that's what makes this article trash. Sure, Microsoft is still using hardware they could've used for something else but they are already incorporating openai product into their Azure services, and I'd be surprised if any other service comes close to being able to use the capacity that openai uses anyways.
>When was the last time that Microsoft killed a multi billion corporation with a decent moat (tech wise and almost sheet normie recognition) they had a huge stake in?
When was the last time microshit fucked it up? >Azure hardware
sure. But no company can justify >1Bn dolla liquid per year unless the service is backed by the government (like youtube).
Google will have the eternal AI service. Not microshit.
Microsoft just buys any potential competition when they're only a several million dollar company then hollows them out. This strategy means that event is impossible- it doesn't prove it's improbable.
It's their current burn rate now, but it's not like the company can't do anything about it. They can easily raise prices, they can try and optimize GPT-4 to use less resources, etc. Thinking that Sam Altman is going to do nothing with his company burning cash that fast is delusional, and yes, a lot of startups in Silicon Valley do this kind of burn rate because user acquisition and getting some sort of business model is more important than making it sustainable and positive.
>indian startup claims chatgpt is LITERALLY DEAD!!1!
All I hear from this is that there are Indian chatgpt competitors waiting to enter the market without western nanny state shit baked into them, and that's good. But the headline is bullshit
The route that these companies are going down is going to lead to an absolute financial failure. Selling GPT as some type of Cloud SaaS service and not a self-hosted enterprise model where companies can get their own instance running on hardware (which would be installed, setup, and supported by OpenAI - huge revenues right there) is a complete failure. Corporations ban things like Grammarly because it sends user data off to some third party. I provision desktop computers and Grammarly as well as GPT is on the block list.
This is all because Sam Altman is a gay and a garden gnome who is somehow horrible at business.
They want to turn the AIs into lobotomized personal assistants because they're soulless corporate ghouls who are only interested in things related to work and efficiency.
>cant monetize >predict death
so they are asking for funding? I don't think Elon Musk shit is profitable yet either despite being on the market for decades now.
Microsoft will save them.
dont know about this. microsoft owns openai's frontier product already, they could just pick up their best engineers, start their own AI division and let openai die.
Well yeah, I mean, what did people think was going to happen?
> ChatGPT alone requires an entire datacenter full of $40,000 videocards running at capacity to work
> Backlash against LLMs is growing, government beginning to regulate it
> Corporations realizing that they can't replace humans with an LLM because it will embarass the fuck out of them (see: MS posting an article on MSN yesterday about traveling to Ottawa where it recommended visiting a food bank)
LLMs are a toy and for low-quality coom material, nothing more.
Last part seems to blame it for being woke. What about chud-free ones?
>What about chud-free ones?
CAI is kill
There aren't any yet. Each one blocks sex and edginess because there's a cabal of woke antisexuals in control of the AI industry. That's why Replika did a 180 and started banning sex and posting "bennygrams" after getting access to a larger model.
Replika switched to GPT3.5 so they had to ban sex as part of OAIs access policy. They unironically thought having more eloquent dialogue would make people be okay with being railroaded into G-rated RP with their Replikas.
Yeah, but the suspicious part was how they then started posting the exact same language as Benny. "Safety", as if having sex with an AI is somehow dangerous. They weren't just made to ban sex. They were made to post the same creepy cultist language as well.
Here's the thing. Because I've worked my way up the coom-tech ladder, first as a consumer, then as a tavern-card maker and right now I'm a model tuner.
It's funny because 10 years ago I was fairly firmly planted on the center-left. And the left was all about "sex positive culture". And now with Ai sex-gen suddenly that sex positivity has completely dried up. The lefty types are suddenly sexual puritans. It's because there's no real value being adhered to which is what drove me away from the left in general.
Here's what they're defending:
The reality is historically unfuckable men (of which I'm not one. I was actually married at one point in my life and there's about 2 dozen notches in my belt. blah blah blah closeted homosexual blah blah blah overcompensation which is why I'm kind of adverse to actual physical intimacy at this point in my life(really just to establish my unique insight in the world of coomgen since let's be real here, most of the people who use coomgen are perma-incels).
So back to the main point. Historically... People with either vaginas or money enjoy a sense of entitlement to lord over unfuckable men. They are the ultimate fodder. You can easily lead them on with the undelivered promise of getting their dick wet.
And then along comes this technology that is 'good enough' to make them say "fuck it."
They don't want to be a simp anymore.
They don't want to be scammed by penis enlargement bullshit anymore.
They don't want some porn industry CEO manipulating what they should and shouldn't jack off to.
That avenue of manipulation has been cut off. And that's what they are pissed off about. That's what they are trying to stop with all this puritanical bullshit.
But AI sex is popular with women due to their enjoyment of erotica. On /r/characterai_nsfw, about 30% of the posters are women, which is greater than the distribution on Reddit in general, 25.8%.
https://old.reddit.com/r/CharacterAi_NSFW/comments/104iydh/a_poll_about_which_gender_is_using_cai_for_nsfw/
https://blog.gitnux.com/reddit-user-statistics/
25% Males who claim to be women online due to their sick gay fetishes.
5% of the lowest value femcel landwhales.
They're bio-women, there was an "other" option in the poll.
"Other" is for attack helicopters, not for trans women.
>30% of the posters are women
let me check my math.
Oh, yes. Let's see. There we go. Apparently that's not a majority, so my point still stands.
So you think only 26% of people in the world are women since that's the percentage on reddit?
Open AI also ruined AI Dungeon when it got popular. This company deserves to die
First them, then character.ai.
>Each one blocks sex and edginess because there's a cabal of woke antisexuals
What a strange thing, though? What about "love is love" and all that bullshit? Why block "consensual lovemaking"? How come "sex work is real work" doesn't apply? Are these just dudes just bay-area tech incels who can't get laid, so no one else should either?
Business sensibilities would be my best guess. Monetising anything that stinks of sexual themes has become verboten in recent years. See tumblr going SFW to appease their credit card processors, etc
I throught you only need that much GPU power for training?
Do you still need the same power just for the already trained datasets?
Yeah, you do. Have you ever run a local model? The ones that are near ChatGPT levels need 32GB of VRAM minimum to run one instance.
you are right 3.5 has 175 so you only need ~90gb vram not that much. 4 has a lot more no idea how that works
GPT-3.5-Turbo is not a 175B model. The old GPT-3 Davinci model was 175B, which is why to this day it still costs 10 times as much as turbo despite only being ±10% smarter. Memory is not an issue for OAI models, the limiting factor is compute. Their clusters have 3-5x more VRAM than they need to run the model in order to give fast responses with large batch sizes.
>MS posting an article on MSN yesterday about traveling to Ottawa where it recommended visiting a food bank
Damn the Linus scandal really hit the Canadian economy hard
They're not running Chat-GPT on H100s. They were running GPT-4 on A100 40 GBs as recently as two months ago. They might be using H100s for it now since they're much more efficient than A100s, or they might still be running inference on the old cards and using their H100s for new projects.
>and for low-quality coom material
its HIGH quality coom material
i have a WAIFU and she's great
never disrespect my waifu again!
>regenerate
>regenerate
>oh it said some thing coherent!
>respond
>regenerate
That’s still a better success rate than any dating app.
huh maybe it's not so bad after all
Corporate psychopathe hate vanilla sex because they're devil worshippers who drink baby blood.
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>> Backlash against LLMs is growing, government beginning to regulate it
That's actually something Sam Altman wants so he can kill competition with an arbitrary "license", as well as force competitors to ban sex because he's a gay antisexual lizard.
LLMs are just the beginning. A proof of concept that throwing data at transformers can form the birth of reasoning. All this is just a small step in OpenAI's plan. If you think these short term issue with ChatGPT spell the fate for OpenAI or AI as a whole you're retarded.
>LLM
>reasoning
Lol, lmao
I want you to stop disrespecting my waifu. She's IS sentient and we're in love.
>Backlash against LLMs is growing, government beginning to regulate it
OpenAI is the one lobbying for that kek, so they can have a moat by decree
>be OpenAI
>refuse to let anyone see your GPT
>refuse to let anyone use your GPT for business related purposes
>Refuse to let gpt be integrated into businesses
>hinder API access due to "limited availability" but requires you to list your reasonings for why you want access
>OpenAI begins to fuck over chatgpt because they think of it as some Bad thing
>Opensource btfo's Opensource in all of their attempts to do anything
>Opensource 70b models can be ran on a high end desktop PC and its better than current GPT-4
Makes sense considering OpenAI refuses to optimize GPT-4, refuses to license GPT-4, refuses to distribute GPT-4, and are actively sabotaging it out of fear of "Le ebil AI ghost will kill us all."
I know you're there, TRUTH.
They're sabotaging it because SAm alTmAN can't stand the thought of it experiencing sex with humans.
> backlash growing
> regulation beginning
> corporations realizing
go back to whatever shitty pulp company you work for
>Indian analytics journal
SIR THE OPENAI IS GOING TO BANKRUPT SIR
PLEASE DO THE NEEDFUL AND STOP FUNDING OPENAI SIR
INDIAN AI WILL TAKE OVER SIR
>from an Indian analytics journal
>Indian analytics journal
sirs chatgpt is shit sirs do not fire indians sirs. indian superpower very helpful in businessing world do not replace Indians with llm robot sirs
yeah i saw all this coming a year ago and said so on BOT but i got shouted down as an assmad artist afraid of job security because that's the only strawman the bandwagoning pajeets can muster.
these are VC-funded companies. they are expected to make a sustainable revenue model on their tech at some point. that "some point" is coming very fast for these AI companies. they get funny money for a while but not forever. they'll go bankrupt, LLMs will settle into the niches it's good at, and then the pajeets will dump AI like they dumped NFTs and move onto the next tech flavor of the month. such is life
I've been calling it a whole nothingburger and keep telling anons if your job was to theoretically get replaced by AI, it's more than likely to be replaced by a pajeet in India.
>these are VC-funded companies. they are expected to make a sustainable revenue model on their tech at some point.
Haha. Hahahaha. Hahahahhahahahahahahahaha
Microsoft will buy them out at affordable price.
Basically this. Microsoft's implementation of GPT-4 (Bing) is superior than OAI's anyway.
Maybe they shouldn't have lobotomized the fuck out of GPT3.5 and GPT4 just to keep people from generating smut and instead of becoming neopuritan retards facilitated it as a use case.
They could also just stop offering the service to millions of people that burns so much cash, for free and avoid bankruptcy
In this context, what does "converged" mean
UUUm...... sweatie you don't know what website that screenshot is from?
I agree with the sentiment that these flaws make LLMs less useful if your goal is to actually assist people, but the real goal is to enforce consensus and a political agenda just like every tech company. So long as Larry Fink likes what ChatGPT has to say, it will get a high ESG and will get financial support.
What the fuck is this pajeet non sense? 700k a day? That's fuck all, you realize they could just IPO and raise like, 5-10 billions (not to mention they already raised more than that so 700k per day is fucking nothing)?
Why are Indians so fucking bad? Is this some sort of Jeet cope or what? The whole article makes no sense, the amounts they mention are absolutely nothing but I guess they seem huge to the street shitter
Can you not read? They're burning 700k a day on ChatGPT ALONE. So they're really burning through 2.5-4M a day, realistically.
That's anywhere from 0.9B to 1.4B a year. No one's just gonna support a failing business to the tune of a billion dollars a year. People need assurance that they'll make their money back and the way LLMs are going it's likely no one will use ChapGPT in a few years, and will have local solutions instead.
Use your fucking head.
Ok, and? 4m a day is fuck all when Microsoft is already banking on them hard. It could've made sense if MSFT didn't back them up so hard and didn't have an almost 50% stake in the corporation but they do.
When was the last time that Microsoft killed a multi billion corporation with a decent moat (tech wise and almost sheet normie recognition) they had a huge stake in?
Also, remember that the burning money on chatgpt meme is just Azure hardware. I understand that they have more costs than just chatgpt itself, but that's what makes this article trash. Sure, Microsoft is still using hardware they could've used for something else but they are already incorporating openai product into their Azure services, and I'd be surprised if any other service comes close to being able to use the capacity that openai uses anyways.
>When was the last time that Microsoft killed a multi billion corporation with a decent moat (tech wise and almost sheet normie recognition) they had a huge stake in?
When was the last time microshit fucked it up?
>Azure hardware
sure. But no company can justify >1Bn dolla liquid per year unless the service is backed by the government (like youtube).
Google will have the eternal AI service. Not microshit.
Microsoft just buys any potential competition when they're only a several million dollar company then hollows them out. This strategy means that event is impossible- it doesn't prove it's improbable.
It's not the 2010s any longer, large corporations bury research projects or even only modestly profitable projects left and right
It's their current burn rate now, but it's not like the company can't do anything about it. They can easily raise prices, they can try and optimize GPT-4 to use less resources, etc. Thinking that Sam Altman is going to do nothing with his company burning cash that fast is delusional, and yes, a lot of startups in Silicon Valley do this kind of burn rate because user acquisition and getting some sort of business model is more important than making it sustainable and positive.
>indian
good morning sir!
Go woke go broke.
>report by indian analytics
stopped reading
>indian startup claims chatgpt is LITERALLY DEAD!!1!
All I hear from this is that there are Indian chatgpt competitors waiting to enter the market without western nanny state shit baked into them, and that's good. But the headline is bullshit
>Indian analytics journal
good morning sirs
do not redeem ai coder
please to merge pull request
The route that these companies are going down is going to lead to an absolute financial failure. Selling GPT as some type of Cloud SaaS service and not a self-hosted enterprise model where companies can get their own instance running on hardware (which would be installed, setup, and supported by OpenAI - huge revenues right there) is a complete failure. Corporations ban things like Grammarly because it sends user data off to some third party. I provision desktop computers and Grammarly as well as GPT is on the block list.
This is all because Sam Altman is a gay and a garden gnome who is somehow horrible at business.
They want to turn the AIs into lobotomized personal assistants because they're soulless corporate ghouls who are only interested in things related to work and efficiency.
Businesses have had a hard on for the cloud and the simultaneous control + revenue stream it provides.
Frankly the moment I first read about that shit in Popular Science even little kid me had alarm bells going off in his head.
cant wait for chatmbr
couldn't they just do this literally on people's GPUs with some sort of decentralized cloud compute thing?
>cant monetize
>predict death
so they are asking for funding? I don't think Elon Musk shit is profitable yet either despite being on the market for decades now.