>NOOOOOOOOOOOOO STOP USING AI PAY FOR MY ART INSTEAD
Why the frick do artists constantly prove that people should support AI art and new models if they keep trying to make art inaccessible.
40 dollars for a fricking portrait with no background. for fricks sake
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Why dont artists use AI to make their work easier?
they do. The same way everything is "adjusted for inflation" except for your wage, everything about art got easier and cheaper since AI, except for the price you are expected to pay artists. It's not a difficult heist to pull off either, given that you are techically morally in the right to demand more money if your expenses have grown, but the vocal artists will literally sit there and cite the war in ukraine and gaza as a reason why their californian ass can't "afford" to give you AI output traced line art for less than $150.
ukraine is over
the bbc also removed their header
The smart ones are already doing that. I know a guy that's using LoRAs with Stable Diffusion to generate concept art and then touching it up. Best of all img2img on his own work is allowing him to generate new work or variations on his own work even faster.
So they can complain about how hard it is to be an artist, and to justify their asking price.
AI is also the boogeyman to a lot of normies, so admitting to using AI in any capacity can get a lot of backlash.
the most LMAO part of artists whining about muh copyright, muh "training is stealing" is that 90% of them make a living at least partially by drawing copyrighted characters in pirated photoshop
You honestly think they have any qualms about the ethics of it besides for posturing and arguments? They just mad their "job" is getting disrupted
that art, while technically impressive and better than anything i could ever do, looks so sovlless
Why do artists act like new tech entering a market is anudda shoah? This happens all the time in almost every other industry
They're luddites. It's like how you see conservatives crying like homosexuals about electric vehicles.
>electric vehicles
These are actually a scam though, if you factor in the pollution produced by mining the materials, an EV has the same environmental impact as a standard vehicle. You're paying a premium just to feel less badly about pollution.
We need thorium RTG powered cars.
>an EV has the same environmental impact as a standard vehicle
This isn't the case at all, though. It's a net reduction in emissions.
Conservatives are so scared of electric vehicles that they make up lies like these.
>This isn't the case at all, though. It's a net reduction in emissions.
Are you moronic? Have you seen what goes into mining lithium?
Do you think pic related is a green vehicle?
It's a net reduction in emissions, despite that, yes.
It's fricking not, though. You're repeating an ad hoc refutation you pulled out of your ass as if it's a fact. The supply chains for EVs are populated almost entirely by oil consuming methods.
>It's fricking not, though.
It is, I'm afraid. Happy to clear that up for you.
Explain to me precisely how that works, smart ass
The net emissions of an ICE vehicle exceed that of an electric vehicle pretty early on in the vehicle's lifespan. The lithium is a big hit to the electric vehicle, and the electricity production is also far from clean, but it isn't enough to exceed the emissions required to source, refine, transport, store, and burn the fuel required for an ICE vehicle. The high recyclability factor of lithium batteries also means that the numbers will get even better in favor of electric vehicles over time.
youre talking to a bot
your talking to a lefttard
What about the second generations of EVs? Most lithium will be recovered from old vehicles
I'd hesitate to say that that would even be workable. If some percentage P of vehicles were recovered for recycling, and of that lithium some proportion L was recovered and repurposed, you'd still need mining to make up for what is lost there. As I said earlier, thorium RTGs are the way
That also wouldn't help if the EV market was to grow
You are moronic. Lithium can be fully recovered and recycled, it absolutely makes sense for them to recover lithium from old evs for cheap instead of mining, processing and refining new lithium
Even if you recycled 100% of the lithium from 100% of electric vehicles, you'd still need mining to increase the number of electric vehicles.
Don't call somebody moronic when you can't grasp that numbers greater than 1 are not equal to 1.
you guys keep spamming the word "luddite" across threads and i don't think any of you know what it means.
Lud·dite
/ˈləˌdīt/
noun
1.
DEROGATORY
a person opposed to new technology or ways of working.
"a small-minded Luddite resisting progress"
2.
HISTORICAL
a member of any of the bands of English workers who destroyed machinery, especially in cotton and woolen mills, that they believed was threatening their jobs (1811–16).
This does describe them perfectly. What's the issue?
>Why the frick do artists constantly prove that people should support AI art and new models if they keep trying to make art inaccessible.
inaccessible how? pre-ai what was stopping anyone from picking up a pencil a few books and learning the works?
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This. NOBODY was trying to "make art inaccessible", and if you thought even for a second such a thing "worked", you're moronic.
>Suzanne Helmigh
Why did you pixelate her name?
neat time to train another lora later
I don't think there's a lot of demand for "AD&D but gayer" LORA.
because he's a redditor and they have no-dox rule for their twitter image threads
Merry Christmas
same
She needs to increase her rates, she's offering good art for real cheap
One thing I really don't understand is how the "artists" who seem to hate AI art the most claim moral legitimacy to say "No, AI cannot see my work. I demand a switch to make sure it is never used in any model, ever". This is like claiming that search engines can't index a page and know what's on it in order to refer someone to it later, or more accurately and annoyingly, that each and every artist who claims their talent is so pure, has done the same thing - they use what media to which they were exposed to shape their own creations. There's not some sort of brainjacking cyberpunk hellhole DRM that, the first time they watched Dragon Ball Z saying "OH NO NO NO, YOU CANNOT USE ANY OF THIS FOR ART UNLESS YOU GIVE US A LICENSE FEE OF ELEVETY BILLION MONEYS THANK YOU". No, they simple draw their horrible donut steel teenage OC with SSJ-style hair and a Goku style Gi or Vegeta's armor or Piccolo's attire, or take a YuYu Hakusho school uniform and add Piccolo's scarf thingy to it on their custom character who has one Namekian style anennae and one Hiei style horn etc. They're doing EXACTLY the same thing that the AI model is doing it.
The worst thing is that their campaign is fricking it upfor the rest of us. They're supporting corporate proprietary models that promise to throw money to license everything because of course they can ,which ensures that it will always be a handful of performant megacorp software as a service models whereas FOSS distributed ones can never get enough data (a hard enough setup to begin with) to ever really compete. Its sickening they'rebasically useful idiots ensuring AI's benefits can't be distributed widely as opposedto just a few wealthy and powerful proprietary model creators get to rule over everything, all because they're afraid that nobody will buy their patreon or commission their work at insane prices if there are other options for "good enough". Frick!
pay Adobe 50$ a month+credits, you thief
The AI shit is basically the new crypto. Remember when every grifter/startup company started up new projects and tied them in some way to some blockchain garbage, until the whole thing basically fizzled out due to loss of interest? That's what's happening with AI. With NFTs we actually saw the two intermingling with stuff like Bored Apes being procedurally generated. But really, in the end both AI art and crypto will be in the same place. They'll both be curiosities from the past, thought experiments on what could have been, like early 2000s internet appliances or the Nintendo 64 disk drive.