My 13 year old daughter is into robotics and automation.

I know it's not a phase because she's been showing interest since she was 9.

How do I support this? What's the best course?
Get her a raspberry pi? Arduino/Pico? Teach her Python? Maybe pirate her a copy of autodesk to prepare her for engineering?

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  1. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Arduino kits, teach C, teach her blender for prototyping.
    >muh proprietardy
    Migh as well give her a pack of cigarettes

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >C for a 13 year old girl
      moron

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Dude I wish someone shown me how to code when I was 13, I was extremely excited about computers my whole life but my parents and me back then knew too little to point me in any direction on things like coding and I was too dumb to google it myself, especially since English not being my native language made everything harder

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          I was mad for computers at 13, and wrote little BASIC programs. I'm glad my parents got me a Commodore 64 - I learned assembly and everything.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        the younger you teach someone complicated concepts, the easier their minds will comprehend it when they grow older. This is what separates the Einsteins and Von Neumanns from the common folk.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Python + some easy robot she can program and have fast results (the lego ones are cool I remember programming some in high school and having a blast, they support some weird python fork and a scratch like programming language).

        If she likes it gift her some more advanced stuff, if not she has now better logical capabilites and who cares.

        >Arduino and fricking C to a 13 yo girl
        Best way to kill off any interest.

        There is nothing wrong with teaching C to a 13 year old. I fricking hated scratch they taught us in 6th grade.
        You don't need to be good with C to make relatively complex arduino projects. Micropython is harder to use than arduino c due to lack of libraries and random undocumented hardware issues, please don't start with it.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        C is a simple language and very suitable for teaching basic concepts of programming.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        we were learning c++ at 10 years old
        anon dont underestimate the mind of kids.
        Why the frick do you think people in bot always say that if you didnt start programming when you were young its over for you

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Python + some easy robot she can program and have fast results (the lego ones are cool I remember programming some in high school and having a blast, they support some weird python fork and a scratch like programming language).

      If she likes it gift her some more advanced stuff, if not she has now better logical capabilites and who cares.

      >Arduino and fricking C to a 13 yo girl
      Best way to kill off any interest.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Lego is cool

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Best way to kill off any interest.
        Maybe she is based and masochistic.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >blender for prototyping.
      How about no you fricking moron.
      Every time I see some fricking moron using blender instead of solidworks or inventor I just shake my head.

      Do you use photoshol for technical drawings? Moron.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >C for a 13 year old girl
      moron

      I wonder how hard would it be to learn C from the K&R for a 13 y.o. kid...
      btw, here are some copies:
      https://kremlin.cc/k&r.pdf
      https://www.google.com/search?q=kernighan+ritchie+C+second+ext:pdf

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        KnR is a history book, from it you can only learn why things are like they are right now, but as a intro into programming it is pointless

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          >KnR is a history book, from it you can only learn why things are like they are right now, but as a intro into programming it is pointless
          what the frick am I reading? it's the best book for learning C I've ever read. the C it teaches might not be the exact same C we use today, but that doesn't mean it's a good book for learning

  2. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Don't get her Blender like the other moron said.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Python tutorials and well documented sbcs seem like a good place to start.

      I'd recommend fusion360 over solidworks for a 13 year old. 95% of the skills are transferable, but F360's interface is easier to get a hold of. When they're in highschool, try solidworks.

      Those are 3D modelling programs. They have nothing to do with robotics or automation.

  3. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Private tutoring. Find her an expert that she can ask questions to.

  4. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'd recommend fusion360 over solidworks for a 13 year old. 95% of the skills are transferable, but F360's interface is easier to get a hold of. When they're in highschool, try solidworks.

  5. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >my 13 year old laptop blah blah blah didn't read
    it's too old anon, get a newer model

  6. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    when i was that age my parents got me into an FTC robotics program. i think they're still around

  7. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    this is like gay parents that tell you their kid is trans

  8. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    arduino kits strike me as more appropriate than a raspberry pi.

  9. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Tell her to play with barbie or some gay shit

  10. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Don't get a pico unless you absolutely need what i
    makes it special (wifi control on the pico w) and you can't do it with an ESP32. There's close to no support or learning resources, especially compared to an Arduino.

    You can even get her an Arduino Uno with a pink anime girl or blinky lights built into the board. And you're gonna want a kit with input and output electronic components, maybe even motor drivers, Arduinos on their own can barely do more than blink an onboard LED.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >You can even get her an Arduino Uno with a pink anime girl
      POINT

  11. 6 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      frick this sandboxed hipster shit and frick you

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      frick this sandboxed hipster shit and frick you

      yeah man if you're gonna do that just buy lego mindstorms so there's at least an ecosystem of shit to build around the robot memes

  12. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    build a pc with her!

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      I actually teach gifted kids in mathematics, Olympiad coaching etc. part time, I found I really enjoyed it because they're the age where discovery is still really cool and I enjoy being around that energy
      Honestly, the biggest thing you can do for her is to just be involved and show you're there for her taking an interest in cool stuff. Kids will absorb basically anything they can if they like it so it really isn't going to matter that much what you start her with, but having that support is almost 90% of the difference between the kids who become very successful and healthy and the kids who just fizzle out and become another gifted kid who never went anywhere (like a lot of (You)). Family support and encouraging exploration makes an enormous difference.
      I recommend you just start her off with some kind of programming, whether it's Python or anything honestly just won't matter that much, although Python is probably a nice friendly start.
      is a great idea, because it demystifies the computer and stops it being a black box, she'll love being around all the technical stuff and feeling like she's in control of the computer rather than it being weird and challenging, you can install an OS with her and get her doing basic stuff with the command line, helping her fix it when stuff goes wrong (builds huge confidence) and I think the Raspberry Pi is a great idea too.
      I think the biggest thing is showing you care honestly. Too many smart kids have parents who just don't give a shit, or give them books but then won't show any interest in what she learns.
      My biggest recommendation is to just let her talk about her interests, and have a conversation about them with her. She'll love you forever if you just show that you care about what she's doing. And if you don't, I promise you no high school teacher will give a shit.

  13. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Encourage her to marry an Asian dude from her future IT job at Siemens.

  14. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    As a child once in that position who didn't get a lot to go on. Arduino/pico/pi etc. They are cheap so just get all of them. Get a bunch of servo motors for her, like 10-20 of them so she can just use them for whatever she wants. Get some lithium ion batteries and a charger, and some packs she can put them in to power her stuff. Get her a simple 5 and 12 volt power supply, might be separate parts or the same depending, maybe consider a lab bench power supply for 40-60$ from amazon. Get her a 3d printer, and give her a small electronics budget that she can request when she wants a particular component or bunch of parts.
    You can spend 2-300$ to get her enough parts to set her up for the next several years.

  15. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    VEX kits are expensive, but, there are lots of robotics kits out there for all ages.
    https://www.vexrobotics.com/v5/products/v5-kits/?q=__empty__

    I guess I'd start cheap, and see what she's into. You'll probably have a couple of misfires, but that's the cost of doing business.

    She's going to need to learn to code, I'd use something like Python, it's not like she's going to need something high speed up front.

  16. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Regardless of hardware you should also get a companion book that has projects for her to follow along with. Just make sure it's appropriate to her level.

  17. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Watch battlebots and play with lego mindstorm. Your her dad not her boss

  18. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Let her decide what she wants. Talk about the possible options and find out what she want to explore.

  19. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't know anon, I don't have any kids.
    Don't try to hijack her interest and try to redirect it towards something you think will be "useful" professionally, she's a kid and doesn't need to think about that, just let her explore, enable her and answer her questions.

  20. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >What's the best course?
    Idk about the best but I teached 10-10yos Mindstorms. Their IDE is decent, you can reflash the firmware to program them in real languages after LabVIEW is not enough anymore.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      There is a big difference between 10 year olds forced by their parents and passionate 13 year olds.
      Starting her with arduino is a much better idea.

      Python tutorials and well documented sbcs seem like a good place to start.

      [...]
      Those are 3D modelling programs. They have nothing to do with robotics or automation.

      Mucropython is awful. Those board work quite well with example projects that are provided but good luck trying to make anything outside of them.

  21. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    The Raspberry Pi Magazines are free in .pdf form, and are geared toward young learners. Everything from robotics, programming, game design, hardware interfacing, etc., are covered. Just browse the back issues and you'll see. Show them to her and see what she gravitates to.

    https://magpi.raspberrypi.com/

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Playing with a raspberry pi is a really good way to teach kids about computers.

  22. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    the reality of robotics sucks, and it entirely depends on how rich your school is and how advanced their robotics program is.
    It's basically you are either part of the build team (the bikeshed team) or being part of the programming team (lol programming).
    she isn't going to be able to do much with a rpi, and she will only learn about as much as you are able to learn (if you are a programmer by career, this should be easy and you can teach her a lot, and have fun, if you aren't, learning electronics and programming is probably a waste of time and your kid is probably better off along, which instead of buying random junk for her, instead ask her what she wants to do and what she needs for it, maybe she wants to do that christmas tree soldering practice thing).

  23. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Autism can be healed by fixing the bacteria in the gut.
    Get her probiotics and a healthy diet with less processed food and sugar.

  24. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    One thing you can start off with her right away is using Node-Red on your machine to turn smart plugs at home on and off.

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