Microsoft Sets 16 GB RAM as Minimum-Requirement for Copilot and Windows AI Features

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >not disabling Copilot
    >inb4 using windows

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/oAeMdsf.png

      >year or our Lord 2024
      >using Windows

      NGMI

      This makes zero sense. Is Microsoft banking on using local LLMs to power up Copilot? If it's a service using internet connection just like ChatGPT shouldn't 8GB RAM be fine?

      but is it gonna be able to say the n-word?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It will have been explicitly trained to only produce slop and nothing else anon

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Not only will it not, in the UK it’ll report you to the authorities if you try to make it.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It can't be disabled/removed.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Every time I read a tardpost like this, I chuckle in gpedit.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        > tech powerup
        post an actual link to a website people read, you fricking street shitter.

        it's windows. anything can be disabled or removed from their operating systems., including their system requirements.

        This makes zero sense. Is Microsoft banking on using local LLMs to power up Copilot? If it's a service using internet connection just like ChatGPT shouldn't 8GB RAM be fine?

        >. Is Microsoft banking on using local LLMs to power up Copilot? I
        no.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/VglDTyK.png

        Well, BOT?

        You guys are so fricking dumb

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Absolute state of BOT.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I have not received updates on my windows 10 for the past 5 years. I honestly do not think I am affected by the Copilot disease and will also not need to delete it.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >year or our Lord 2024
    >using Windows

    NGMI

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      yeah but Copilot is legit, its image generation capabilities could breath some life back into image boards, the meme potential is through the roof. Sure there's better alternatives but Copilot is doing what the iPhone did, bringing AI acceleration to the normie, for better and worse.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    This makes zero sense. Is Microsoft banking on using local LLMs to power up Copilot? If it's a service using internet connection just like ChatGPT shouldn't 8GB RAM be fine?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      cloud LLMs would not even be close to sustainable financially without some subscription model. High chance this is a local model approach.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The local LLM would be "hackable". Like you could replace it with any other model in the pirate way. That would mean a better focus on open source models and maybe open source would catch up a bit more. AI based OS is a stupid idea but if it really happens then we can turn this around

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          mayhaps, MS has released some smaller 3B models recently, possibly related

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          They’ll find some way to TPM us into the dirt

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Once you understand that the interface is created mainly by Indians, 16gb start to make sense. It doesn't matter that the backend is on a server somewhere.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Why pay for your own compute on Azure when you can make users pay for a solid chunk of it instead?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Isn't the whole point to make it completely local, and just sync all your conversations with daily updates?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The point is to make you pay the costs for the hardware and electricity while they trap your data

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      not local for sure
      but your machine must processes all the useless bloatshitware to justify hardware consuming

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They're going to train their AI on your hardware 🙂

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It makes perfect sense. Offices and schools and anywhere else that operates a large amount of computers aren't going to have someone go out and buy new RAM sticks to upgrade all their computers, they're just going to order a lot of new computers that have everything they need already on them. Millions of perfectly usable computers will be thrown away, to the landfill or to the hands of scavengers, and millions of computers will be bought, making an obscene amount of money for people who manufacture computers, and people who sell the OS that those computers come pre-installed with. A grubby Indian man will eventually make a handful of rupees after smashing a laptop from 2021 into pieces with a hammer to extract some valuable metal scraps.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        As an IT guy I have actually been assigned to go additional RAM in computer labs before. It happens more than you'd think if a dean gets all excited about a new program or feature.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >shouldn't 8GB RAM be fine?
      It would be if programs weren't becoming systems inside systems just to run a system that will plug into another system of systems. Now that everything is virtualized and containered for system security and data leak prevention, the RAM requirements have been increasing at a stupid rate.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    We call them "local models" anon, and yes they chew RAM.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Microshit will make you pay for RAM, the Hardware, energy and still charge you for the use of AI in their software.

    Cool, huh?

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    No computer should have less than 16GB, but now 24GB will be the minimum on Windows because of the bloat being added by this AI shovelware.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's a well known fact that Microsoft receives $billions annually in bribes from computer manufacturers to increase hardware requirements with every new release

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      8GB is well enough for anything. Microsoft is owned by the same people that own NVIDIA/AMD.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >caring about AIshit,a microshit AI at that

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    So do they seriously intend to run some local LLM on a measly 16 GB or ram shared with other system resources? So realistically we have a model that is at most 10gb or so and processed by the cpu or igpu. Well this is going to be an entertaining train wreck to watch.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    just don't use the satanic AI. Also, I got 24 Gigs (do ask why)

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      who?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I had 8 gigs of DDR3 mem. Then BOT (falsely) said its not enough, so I bought two expensive 8 gig sticks more from some old ass boomer.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why even use "A.I." trash? It just gets in the way, at least whatever M$ churns out in that regard.
    I gave MS Edge a chance and it was okay until they started to shove that copilot bs on my face.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      wAIfus

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      how? Edge is my main browser and copilot is never in my face

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >I got used to eating shit
        >therefore shit tastes good

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    32 gigs is bare minimum for RAM these days. Although anything less than 256 gigs is pretty laughable.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Not having at least 16gb of ram for a daily-driver in 2024 is an embarassment.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    32gb is what? $80? Shits cheap. Also I'm not a computer hardware nerd, but doesn't having mismatched ram degrade performance?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      He has two 6GB sticks, anon.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    16gb of ram is dirt cheap unless you live in some shithole country. 2x32gb of decent hynix whatever 6000mhz ddr5 ram costs like 110 dollars right now, that ram is so good that your mobo/memory controller are more than likely going to be the bottleneck in terms of how far you can oc it

    If you are running a low powered laptop you shouldn't be running windows anyway, even still you can find 2x8gb ddr3 sodimm sticks for a pittance

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What should you be running, given Linux is a never-ending catastrophe on laptops?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        What exactly doesn't work on a Linux laptops? I have AMD one with Atheros WiFi module and everything justwerkz

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Every other day there's another fine ACPI mess caused by Linux - which, of course, they blame on OEMs instead of fixing. Since laptops live and die on their power management, this is a showstopper.
          And seriously, did you think that crowing that Atheros wi-fi worked was some sort of flex? That's the tech equivalent of running to your mommy that "i did poo in toilet".

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >unsupported garbage is... Le good!
            Do you really expect them to reverse engineer every single driver for each hardware manufacturer that refuses to support Gahnoo/Loonix?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            To be fair, given that most Linux users are in India, that would probably be something he'd be immensely proud of.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        what issues have you had? I can only think of one laptop that gave me trouble with some screen tearing issue but finding solutions online was easy. I've only ever put mint/xubuntu on my laptops tho

        What a horseshit post, another linuxgay shills the terminal experiece (tm)

        take your meds Black person

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What a horseshit post, another linuxgay shills the terminal experiece (tm)

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Sad that linux devs are trannies

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    I dedicate twice as much RAM to my Windows VM while doing other things in a Linux host. Stop being poor.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    thread derailed by a spastic that's mindbroken by linux. the post he lost his mind over wasn't even about linux, maybe it was because the guy implied people like him were poor or something

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >being reminded of your toy os for iot lightbulb's flaws sends you into chimprage
      >this is everyone else's fault
      Genpoo in the genloo, streetshitter.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        you are literally mindbroken

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    128gb is my new minimum

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Disregard this, Microsoft sucks wieners.
    I, anon on BOT, have the real truth.

    You want 64GB of RAM minimum for any OS after Windows 7 that you do anything but browse the web on.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      correction, with chrome based browsers you still want as much ram as possible even if you do nothing but browse web.
      that is the state of things nowadays.

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >current year
    >2024
    >people who are into tech and choose to use windows

    it is a hell you deserve

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    MICROSOFT IS LE BAD
    CHANGE TO LINUX NOW SISTERS 🙂

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I prefer to keep my ram empty, but thanks for the offer.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >UNUSED MEMORY IS WASTED MEMORY
      >DO YOU HEAR ME???
      >W A S T E D
      >HAHAHAHAHAHAH XDD LMAO
      >STOP IT
      >YOU NEED TO OPEN ALL YOUR PROGRAMS AT ONCE RIGHT NOW
      >NOW, NOW, NOW, NOW!

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        This argument is generally paired with "just let windows use your memory, it is using it better than you!"

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        she's right however, why buy more ram than you need I mean it's a bit silly if you ask me. I rarely ever hit my swap on a laptop with 6gb of ram. the only thing your excess ram is of any benefit to is your ssds longevity really

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >my ram empty
      enjoy the lag spikes during IO

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I remember playing Half Life 2 on 256mb ram

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Tens of thousands of perfectly functional computers are now ewaste due to a decision made by the richest company on the planet
    >this same company will lecture you on wasting energy even though a large portion of the world population use renewable energy such as hydro
    Computers were a mistake, take us back to test tubes and burn these Microsoft and apple Witches

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    tfw you fell for the 16GB ram meme

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      i have a problem with too many tabs and 32 is not enough for me.

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    tfw you fall for the linux meme and have 2GB ram usage out of 64GB

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You can tell it to cache files on memory just like windows or you can use the space for something else, like three chrome tabs.

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You need at least 28 GB to run the medium model of mixtral 7b

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I set 4GB RAM as a minimum-requirement for my OS.

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly why not just say frick it and demand 64GB. Run the whole OS off a ramdisk and call it a day.

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I can't get Copilot because I live in an european shithole
    I'm hoping that isn't forced down my throat

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >an european
      esl detected
      what part of european shithole?

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    In the bright side, 8GB laptops will disappear in stores.

  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm honestly amazed that even after 10 years RAM usage hasn't ballooned. I mean 16 does pretty much everything you want in Windows 10, including games. That said I kinda want to run 192gb and make a colossal 128gb RAMDRive just for the sake of it.
    Also lol AI "assistant". I wonder how much more data this funnels to microshit? Oh, I can already assume the answer is "far more than it needs to".

  33. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Does that mean it runs locally? If so, they won't do a moronic credits system, and it'll work without network. I'm actually all for this.

  34. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Anything more than 4GB of RAM is wasting money and bloat, only pajeets who can't code will disagree

  35. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >got a carbon, thinking "oh it's a Thinkpad i can upgrade it later"
    >nah brah it's soldiered and 8gig ram only

    it's not like i'm a wordpress dev who desperately needs ram

  36. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    shit, gonna need 32gb minimum of you plan to play games as well right?

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