Man was banned from art forum because of supposed AI involvement

https://www.vice.com/en/article/y3p9yg/artist-banned-from-art-reddit

On December 27, a digital artist named Ben Moran tweeted that moderators of r/Art banned him for breaking their "no AI art" rule. Moran had posted an image of their digital illustration, titled "a muse in warzone," and moderators removed it and banned him.

"There's no way human hands had drawn that."

Moran posted a screenshot of the ban and claimed he didn't use AI at all: "I can give you guys the process or the PSD file of that painting," Moran wrote, claiming that he's not using any AI-supported technology and that the punishment is "not right."

"I don't believe you," a moderator replied. "Even if you did 'paint' it yourself, it's so obviously an Al-prompted design that it doesn't matter. It's still doesn't belong here. If you really are a 'serious' artist, then you need to find a different style, because A) no one is going to believe when you say it's not Al, and B) the AI can do better in seconds what might take you hours. Sorry, it's the way of the world."

Moran told Motherboard that this piece was a commission from their Vietnam-based studio, Kart Studio, which was established three years ago. The studio consists of a group of digital artists who collaborate on pieces, they said. A full-body portrait with a complex background can cost upwards of $500, according to Kart Studio's website, with the studio sending the commissioner the art at various stages, including the initial sketch. For the muse illustration, a different artist started it, and Moran stepped in to complete it. It took Moran a month to complete (about 100 hours, they said) and they wanted to show the final piece to the community on Reddit.

  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You cant expect anyone on reddit to be rational or even correct 99% of the time. r/art sounds awful, guarantee the amount of true professionals on there is little to none. Like most of reddit

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      just goes to show how soulless 'real' globalhomo artists are. ai allows them to find counter revolutionaries in any portrait drawing lmao.

      i think its more insedious then that.
      time to remove your competition goyim, attack anyone you dont like and claim their art is ai. whoever is less woke loses.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >uninspired slop costs $500
    No wonder paintpigs are getting btfo

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >There's no way human hands had drawn that.
    I hope he takes it as a compliment. The same way gamers do when someone claims they're cheating but they're not.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Moran and Kart Studio’s signature style does look similar to the predominant style of AI-generated art that’s going around currently
    Imagine my shock when AI generated art resembles human generated art. It's almost like that's intentional.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I love how there's tropes for how AI art is suppose to look. Makes my job way easier selling art as a side-gig.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wow, is there some kind of catalog of more images like those? I'm very curious to see people's shitty MS Paint scribbles processed like that.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's Img2Img, it's amazing what you can actually do with it. You can actually set up an entire compostion and img2img, then direct it the way you want with prompts-- then touch up with inpainting. Finally manually paint and touch ups.

        I use AI to make MS paint characters and nobody knows it's AI.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        head on over to /sdg/ if you have a newer gpu and you can get it running, careful though, prompting can be addicting

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          the guide on here is pretty good too I just got it running

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Very cool but I notice it didn't quite produce what it was told to (round blue gem instead of diamond one)

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Thats actually really good idea.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      left: SOVL
      right: soulless

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    False flag to make artists go "OMG LOOK AT THIS EVIL AI WE MUST BAN IT". Instead anyone with a brain will just keep shitting on retarded predditors.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That mod is unbelievably based. I'd use AI as an excuse to ban utterly soulless trash too.

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Man was banned from art forum
    >reddit

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why are artists so dumb?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because pop culture is dumb because most people are dumb. Intelligence is abnormal.

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I mean it's reddit so

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    All the moderators on reddit are crazy. They don't even follow their own rules. They ban people and delete posts based purely on their feelings.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Well yeah, anyone who agrees to do it for free on a website of that size is clearly both fucked in the head and a loser with no life as baseline requirements. Some of the mods on there cover literally hundreds of subplebbits too.

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    he should sue reddit, he'd probably win just like the journalist that sued twitter after being banned for talking about covid

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >he should sue reddit
      Moderators aren't employed by reddit, are they?

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Well, yes, this looks clearly based of a AI generation, I can't dispute that.

    However, if he painted over it or used it as reference, why should that not be allowed ?

    60% of art on Artstation is using photos as reference, often it's just a quick paintover, yet they have no problem with that ?

    Hypocrocy.

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Whether or not he used AI, painting looks like shit and he should have been banned just on that.

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It doesn't have most of the tell tale signs of AI generation, but that right shoulder strap is looking pretty sus.
    I also like the idea of certain types of art becoming taboo because they look too similar to how AI generates them. 11/10 clown world.

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >about 100 hours to get the right prompt

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >draws art that's too soulless to be considered human made
    >banned
    FUCKING BASED

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Based retard r/art jannies, this event will further demoralise drawgays into reconsidering their jobs.
    Also cheers to the artgay who reported this to the media, he did his part in ruining the non AI art world reputation.

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    give the art back tyrone

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Well then maybe he should have made less-shit art.

    Frankly, good. It's like how enginedev idiots who learn how to copy and pace and advanced PBR water surface algorithm wow idiots with their spectacle, some "digital artists" learn a few coloring and shading brush techniques that have been proven to wow idiots and spend enough time refining them that they slowly churn out valueless garbage. Well now they can watch someone else quickly churn out even more valueless garbage. Yay for them. God I'm glad the plebs are getting their comeuppance.

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The more I look at it, the more sure I am that it is a SD prompt.
    Maybe he combined several (so his PSD will have layers and shit) but there are a bunch of oddities on the character.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >there are a bunch of oddities on the character
      So, like any other mass produced art stuff?
      It perfectly matches his style from way back in 2019

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >So, like any other mass produced art stuff?
        No?
        Look at the straps, for example. Particularly the right hand side one. What is that supposed to be? What is even going on there?
        The seam on the dress, on the left breast it looks fine, two lines that parallel each other, on the right side about half way is the same and then it just mushes together.
        Some of the frills blend into each other.
        The ear could be a style thing, I don't know.
        I looked at his deviantart and all of the stuff there is styled more like paintings, so to me it doesn't look to match his style at all. And the ears look better in them.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          OP image is AI. Not from the artist in question.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            If there was ever a time to use "pic unrelated"

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >reddit mods have a baseless powertrip
    0:

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So now /r/art will show the worst possible art made by untalented retards because "AI wouldn't draw this bad?"

  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >up to $500
    >100 hours
    Ouch.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ask /co/ and they'll tell you (in between posting chud comics) that cartoons and animation got outsourced to sweatshops in Asia like everything else.

  26. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >and B) the AI can do better in seconds what might take you hours. Sorry, it's the way of the world."
    So they're literally admitting AI is better than them XD

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Mods don't draw.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >copying the eye of sauron
      Artists only steal.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >eye of sauron
        Retard, that's a reptiles eye

  27. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine if the next Hitler is an artist that instead of getting rejected from art school, got reject from an art subreddit.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      And isn't even human.

  28. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >If you really are a 'serious' artist, then you need to find a different style
    I love this line right here, years of screeching whenever the general public says the same thing about a lot of modern art, now we have "artists" turning on artists and saying the same thing, only to artists that can actually draw. Funny.

  29. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >didn't use AI
    >clasp on bra clearly has low res fusing between what AI tried to make a strap and what AI tried to make a strap slider
    >tiling or photobashing of roses and mountains in the background
    >ruffling of sleeves is inconsistent on both sides
    tasteless hacks can never spot the issues lol
    >t. artist that's been doing ai touch up for 5 months now

  30. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >https://www.vice.com/en/article/y3p9yg/artist-banned-from-art-reddit
    >OP decides to use a garbage AI generated image instead of posting what was actually being discussed, forcing people to go to the Vice article
    OP is always, forever, irrevocably gay until end of time

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's the most generic ass fantasy artwork ever. No wonder """"""artists"""""" are worried.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >floating slackjawed girl
      >bunch of incoherent fucking shit in the background just so you could say it has a background
      christ no fucking wonder it gets mistaken with AI art. actually i hope AI gets even more powerful so this shitty style of art dies for good

  31. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wtf Vice is actually doing something useful?

  32. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  33. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ai is some black magic

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