At the company where I work, when they accept job applications, they check if the cover letter is poorly written and it's instantly rejected if there's way too many spelling and grammar mistakes. This is a first line of defense to keep the morons out, and so far about 95% of the rejected applicants happen to be Pajeets.
Now they're all using LLMs to write their cover letter and it's wasting a lot of our time. GPT Zero and similar tools haven't been very effective.
How does one deal with this? We're 100% remote and most of our communications are over chat, so we absolutely don't want anyone in the company who can't write a coherent sentence.
Also, why are Pajeets so moronic?
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You may not like the answer, but best technology for this is human brain, hire HUMANS to read them and then hire HUMANS to interview the people instead of using regex to match CVs and pretend you made an AI
Expensive. The moment we post a job opening, about 6-8000 Pajeets apply in a week. We need something to filter out the shit-tier applications.
Regex itself has worked wonders until now. We were just checking if a sentence exists that start with "Am" or "Myself", or if there are any sentences where there's a space before a punctuation and reject if detected. This used to get rid of about 5000 Pajeets, and then a human would review the rest.
Now we're getting LLM generated cover letters with perfect grammar, so it's making everything more expensive for us. I was promised a bonus if I can figure out a way around this.
filter by zip code
Just don’t accept applications from India. if you’re using some online job listing platform there’s surely a way to restrict where applications can be filed from. Make using a VPN the new filter for the Pajeets who try hard enough.
the pajeets applying are probably fast food workers in his country though. Why would rajesh apply for an in person job from bangalore?
OP literally states their company is 100% remote
then rangebanning india should work
That's a good way for the company to die of ligma though.
What's ligma?
balls
That may not work. If someone in India is looking for sponsorship here, they could apply using a local address here. A friend's address here would do.
make a list of indian names and reject based on that
That would be a lawsuit waiting to happen
How could they prove it?
Submit substantially the same resumes using Indian and non-Indian names. Do this a few dozen times. Submit this academic research to the Journal of Racial Studies. Sue the shit out of your company. Profit!
sue university for flooding fake resumes, profit millions
Scientific research is exempt from this.
mfw I missed opportunity to get into university and do scientific research on companies combating ransomware and becoming rich then dropping out and starting my own company
just don't get caught moron
them back to back gets
Racism against Indians isn't a taboo.
It is funny that they're the only ones you can still be at least vaguely racist towards online. They're like literal walking punching bags, it's so hard not to take a hit at them
>make a list of indian names and reject based on that
That is precisely the kind of thing that will get you fricked by the government. You could literally do anything else
This. You'll have to do it manually. Just looking at names you can filter out 99% of the resumes. Jeet names in the dumpster. sometimes they'll change their name too, so then you have to look a bit closer, but this is pretty uncommon and still easy to spot.
Is it possible to set up a LLC which can be hired to filter the resumes?
If the LLC goes down no biggie, just make another...
>We need something to filter out the shit-tier applications.
Start by not hiring anyone who doesn't have a European name.
filter any CV containing "java"
THIS
Filter every CV containing certificates or trainings from Durgasoft
I think 99% of problems would be fixed if companies had access to highschool and university databases, that way they could verify basic things, they could select people good at math even if they don't have a degree, of course at the same time companies cannot be trusted with this data so frick them
99% of the problems would be avoided if the government helped you get employed while still in school or college. Frick the job market.
>muh government
doesn't work that way, schools don't prepare you to even do your taxes correctly
Umm, we don't do our taxes by ourselves in Europe. That's only America. The taxes are deducted from your paycheck and if you run a company, your accountant does that for you.
well I'm from europe too, and that's a problem, from my limited knowledge, out education system is also better than in USA, the least they could do is teach them how to do taxes though, then they could be proud of being capitalist instead of communist
you are doing it wrong then its quite likely you are paying too much taxes. Even the basic aldi tax software is good enough to give you 100€ back but often its quite a bit more.
you do your taxes yourself if you own stocks or investments. most people don't and so the company does the local equivalent of Pay As You Earn taxes based on their salary. if you are not doing your own taxes you are normie chattel, sucks for you.
Way to go, just proving his point... I'm also in Europe and you do have to do your own taxes if you own stocks or have additional income other than your job...
I think there are tools to detect if something was written by Chat GPT.
moron
gpt detector says that this post was written by gpt, works on my machine
Last I heard, most of those had an unacceptable false positive rate.
Require a security clearance. Only US citizens can get one.
You can also
>filter by university (only allow american universities)
>put on the job listing that the job is in person and you do not sponsor a work visa
>>put on the job listing that the job is in person and you do not sponsor a work visa
It used to be the correct question was:
Are you able to work in the United States without sponsorship?
>space before a punctuation
The most basic fricking rule of English punctuation that so many foreigners cannot grasp
>rule of English punctuation
isn't it the same for pretty much all western languages?
Frenchies put spaces before question marks, exclamation marks, ellipses and/or colons, depending on region.
>Frenchies put spaces before question marks, exclamation marks, ellipses and/or colons, depending on region.
do froggays really?
Reject them all!
We're having the same issue here in Canada. Our chief Indian is even actually helping trying to solve this problem after being burned by bad coders of his kind after they got through the interview process, which he is now handling himself.
do I have a good chance at a job as a white man in Canada
Why would any company pay a white man $100k/yr when they can hire an Indian instead and pay him $60k/yr and is a better coder than you too?
>and is a better coder than you too?
This is the part that both of us know is not true. Indians are so bad at coding that the frickers are picketing in Brampton now demanding "fair grading" because they keep failing intro programming courses at high rates. Not to mention that you have to work beside them and that is an endurance test on its own with the odors and other issues they bring.
Just filter out all Indian names.
I find it funny how some do their darndest to filter pajeets but whenever a company posts a job offering for women or minority only the same people go apeshit online.
Because women and pajeets are a massive inconvenience.
list of shit to catch the GPT-pajeet schemer!
1) filter and drop anything with PHP or PHP related (wp, etc)
2) implement a tiny test to continue with application. For example, give them a list of simple things to do that any native English speaker could easily do but GPT will fail at. (eg. "include a short sentence with your best skills that also has the number of words in the sentence included in the sentence itself", "what would you consider your worst personal failure?", etc)
3) Trick GPT. For example, in the job description, poison the GPT response.
4) Privately (don't let anyone know wtf you are doing are you could get in trouble) train a LLM to "detect GPT generated cover letters" (in reality, train it to flag anything with Indian or Paki names, no way they can find out!)
send them to BOT
>We were just checking if a sentence exists that start with "Am" or "Myself",
>This used to get rid of about 5000 Pajeets,
Lmao this shit is hilarious
If OP has the double dot in his regex it's bound to be a total pajeetocaust..
>Expensive.
Welcome to the real world, kid. Things cost money and sometimes you need to spend money to make money.
>Expensive. The moment we post a job opening, about 6-8000 Pajeets apply in a week. We need something to filter out the shit-tier applications.
Search the resume for words like:
"Reddy"
"Singh"
"Dinesh"
"Osmania"
"Urgent"
"Requirement"
You get the idea. Do you initial cull from the resume.
This has already been proposed, but not only is it illegal in all western countries, it could literally bankrupt the company if the ((right attorney)) got on board with the obvious lawsuit that would follow.
Just train a model off "bad performing" applicants. Have the model learn to recognize these names, without your (obvious) input. It's the model rejecting them, not you. What can you do? Especially if it can be shown to perform well.
checked and wrecked by Western court decisions regarding discrimination. If the outcome of something filters a protected class (ie. all non-white male people) then it is prima facie evidence of discrimination.
How is that determined? Or is there somewhere I can read a legal summary of this precedence? Because you would effectively have the same thing if you say "I only want people with grad-level degrees" and then drop 80% of incoming black applicants or whatever because of it. And I bet someone could show that for many jobs, having a job skill proficiency test would be a better and less discriminatory test for applicants than a generic educational benchmark, since that's obviously mostly bogus as an indication of workplace capability.
"For many jobs" a simple IQ test is the most accurate indication of workplace capability available. Except those have already been decreed illegal for burgers as long as white men exist.
And guess what? If you solved this problem legally, the law would be rewritten and applied again.
This anon gets it! The system is set up to make you drink some amount of sewage (in the case of jeets) or suffer legally and give the money you would have paid to those jeets to an ((attorney)). As it happens, israelites are a protected minority, so they are the only White-presenting group that can discriminate and do nepotism and it is perfectly legal. Very interesting how that worked out.
>Or is there somewhere I can read a legal summary of this precedence?
Sure is! It all started long ago here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griggs_v._Duke_Power_Co. and has been supported and added to many times along the way over the years.
>Because you would effectively have the same thing if you say "I only want people with grad-level degrees" and then drop 80% of incoming black applicants
Correct, kind of. If people do not apply, that is out of your control, but if people do apply any nigs (outside of their application proportion) get filtered for some reason, you have now discriminated.
>And I bet someone could show that for many jobs, having a job skill proficiency test would be a better and less discriminatory
See my first link above
As a side note, that same lawsuit was the birth of equity vs equality ... with equity winning eventually. Thanks ((supreme court judges))!
Thank you a lot for posting this, what an interesting read. What's interesting is that the Griggs v. Duke case seems to make the two IQ and general competency tests they used exactly equivalent to their diploma requirements, i.e. that both things were shown to be totally unrelated to job performance or advancement potential, while also de facto discriminating against the black applicants.
Yet while IQ tests are nowhere to be seen, jobs in the US almost universally ask for high school or college diplomas as minimum requirements. I'll have to keep looking into this to find out why these have avoided the axe. What an interesting rabbit hole this is.
He vetoed it because he didn't see the point. That type of discrimination was already covered by existing anti-discrimination clauses. I remember reading the press release, it was quite short. I don't know where you heard otherwise.
>I'll have to keep looking into this to find out why these have avoided the axe. What an interesting rabbit hole this is.
No need, I will answer for you. Black folk can not fail out of high school or community college (if they are taking social sciences major). In fact, the most "educated" segment of the American population per capita is Black women.
> I don't know where you heard otherwise.
I didn't hear otherwise, his bullshit about it already being covered was obvious bullshit because that would cover all discrimination ... yet we get new discrimination laws all the time.
>Yet while IQ tests are nowhere to be seen, jobs in the US almost universally ask for high school or college diplomas as minimum requirements. I'll have to keep looking into this to find out why these have avoided the axe. What an interesting rabbit hole this is.
There's an unprincipled exception from disparate impact for education. Probably because academia has so much power.
Along the same lines there seems to be an unprincipled exception for better more well-known universities over less well-known ones for the same degree. An easy way to filter poor-gays.
Very true. Even though I'm from a top uni (but poorgay), I still really dislike that this is the norm. There's no solid way around it, because you can't police what's inside someone's head. But in theory, everyone completing an accredited program in a related field should be eligible to interview or take an appropriate skills test. In the end, it's going to come down to hiring manager's say unless it's at a big company with a complex hiring process and scored stages and whatever else.
Just dismiss names like Visajeet Dikshit
>Dikshit
I thought you were joking, but this is a real last name that Indian's have. Imagine being called dick shit.
>I was promised a bonus if I can figure out a way around this.
Sounds like thats your task, not ours.
> "I was promised a bonus if I can work this out"
> can't work anything out
> post on fricking BOT asking to be spoonfed a solution and whining about "pajeets"
I don't see you as being all that much better than the "pajeets" you hate so much
Shit, this is a problem now? Business opportunity to train a BERT model to differentiate between AI and non-AI cover letters and offer anti-LLM services to companies. Although finding non-AI cover letters would be the hard part, it could probably be done with enough prompt engineering.
>if there are any sentences where there's a space before a punctuation and reject if detected
Based, frick french "people".
>if race=="indian": reject()
there you go, that's gonna be $10k
>We need something to filter out the shit-tier applications.
Block Indians. They're not good just block them. It's worth the fines.
How does the application system works?
If you guys have in-house application system, just add there question field about the nationality/country of origin.
After implementing it, you can easily instantly filter out anyone who are from india, bangladesh, pakistan etc.
Lmao, I hope pajeets make your Black person company go bankrupt
KYS pajeet.
It kind of would be funny/mean to make a honeypot for indians
Like advertise the sort of jobs indians would apply for and make them waste their time applying for it. Have them call in for multiple hours long interviews with an AI recording.
There's nothing funny about this. I get the feeling you might be one of those guys that gets off to videos of people feeding live rodents to their pets. The time of Indians is not worth anything. Do not go out of your way to aggravate them. That they exist at all is increasing the amount of anguish in the world, and you are not going to get revenge on God by inflicting it on them.
>sar pls do not do the needful
There’s probably a YouTube channel in making pajeets waste their time. I wouldn’t get off feeding a rodent to a snake but I would get off feeding a pajeet to a train.
>t. Parth Patel
send them a bill.
>it became immediately obvious that you were unfamiliar with Erlang
>immediately
>after 6 hours of interviews
Clearly it was a 2hr interview with 3 interviewers
absolute moron
indian detected
>Rebekah, (owner)
this
jews seething at what they've wrought
i say, why contain it
>Rebekah, ~~*owner*~~
>head developer
>$55/hour
I make more than this as a TA. What kind of rinky dink morono startup is this?
Whats VCAT?
vertical cat aka long cat
Some junior level court in Australia.
https://www.vcat.vic.gov.au/what-vcat-does
We quote 130€ per hour if I leave the lab to take samples. Is this in a third world country?
>owner who knows jack shit thinks her time is the most valuable
lmfao
i'd wipe my ass with this (figuratively - it would be unsanitary otherwise)
Kek
Yeah, this would totally hold up in court. I also send bills to anyone who calls me during work hours
>*applicant clicks Apply*
>Q: "Where are you from?"
>A: "Africa" "India" "Middle East / Turkey" "European Union or EEA" "North America" "Australia"
Then never ever review applications from the first 3.
Add an "info" notice if necessary claiming that it is for taxation and salary details.
No, say it’s for hiring people who are good at foreign languages, and who to promote for overseas business trips
>>A: "Africa" "India" "Middle East / Turkey" "European Union or EEA" "North America" "Australia"
>Then never ever review applications from the first 3.
Won't work, they will say North America (because Canada imports and gives the Black person grade curve to jeets at an industrial scale).
>people who are good at foreign languages
This might work. But you would have to be subtle, like "How many and which languages can you speak?"
>mfw HR-tards struggle with AI empowered jeets
Can't wait for the day AI nukes both of you from the job market.
Plausible sounding AI gibberish could paralyze entire private and governmental bureaucracies. Like DDOS but for human brain.
>guise i think 60% of our customer support tickets could be just an AI spam but we can't be sure anymore
Nowadays I have to deal with my own fricking boss asking me to review shit he writes thats clearly AI generated. And its not just him... I'm reaching a point where I just won't flat out read shit if I suspect it was AI generated.
>spelling and grammar
are you hiring English majors to work for you? because nobody gives 2 fricks about that shit irl and majority of engineers don't have excellent communication skills.
>t. seething pajeet
If you had a job you would know that being able to communicate effectively is critically important, not only with your team and leadership but also with customers or for writing documentation etc. If the majority of engineers can't write coherent english then it's all the more important to find the few who can to keep the whole operation afloat.
I have a job, my title is technical support, my job is to communicate with others. all it means really is that you dumb everything down to the level that everyone will understand. my communication skills are subpar but I'm an engineer so is everyone else's.
Yeah buddy, I'm pretty sure that communication skills are especially important in tech support. Also, you wouldn't know where this job is usually outsourced to?
what is crucial isn't communication skills but explanation skills. you can talk in one sentence but if you can explain with images it's good enough.
people aren't npc's, senior engineer will literally walk in with baseball hat and say what's up fellow zoomers and everyone will be 300% more productive than with a homosexual who's always butthurt about everything
I work in Central Europe for a massive company that spans like half the countries in Europe. Half of our IT aren't native English speakers and it shows. I don't read the Confluence pages we have at work because they contain ungodly amounts of spelling and grammar mistakes. Even if you skip past that, people are hiding behind sophisticated homosexual words like "we're increasing the robust analysis of the root cause of the issue" where in fact they're making up shit for their shortcomings. Like holy frick I heard this one guy throw this word salad at me and in reality all he needed to do was run sed on one of the files on his laptop.
>I work in Central Europe
p*le detected, nobody else calls themselves "central european" whatever is that supposed to mean
I want to know this too anon, wtf is "Central Europe"? Are you differentiating yourself from the "dirty south" like Greece and Italy and the "self felating north" like Switzerland? Or are you differentiating yourself from the "Black personfied west" like England and the "white Black personfied east" like Romania? Are you German anon? If so you are worse than all those countries.
I'm not the guy who mooches off his father's fuel tank just because his 20-something year old ass doesn't have a car license yet, that makes bullshit stories about getting scalped on low end GPUs and picking up writing a window compositor as a hobby 3 weeks into his first Linux distro.
Everything that fits here:
>south of Scandinavia
>east of Germany
>west of Ukraine, or Turkey depending how far south you are
>north of Greece
You sound like a pole that doesn't know the world. Czech dudes also say they belong to central europe:
https://www.reddit.com/r/czech/comments/17h76kr/is_czechia_eastern_or_western_europe/
Hyprland dev detected even doe he said he doesn't post on BOT?
Unemployable shitskin
Says a lot about the work culture when bots are as convincing as real applicants. Ditch your obnoxious formalities and embrace honesty.
This. Traditional hiring practices are just time wasting exercises and humiliation rituals. I can tell within 1 minute if somebody knows how to code and if they'll be any good. If you can't, then maybe you shouldn't be the one hiring. Frick stupid HR managers.
unfortunately, such knowers like you are unironically the ones responsible for hiring people, you don't know shit about programming but judge others, frick you
I've been doing this for 20 years, I know more than most of this board. 95% of programmers are utterly shit and only code at work. HR is a parasite that exists to make everything less effective.
People who can regurgitate algos to known problems aren't good programmers. Practical tests are shit.
how do you test for ability to program then?
It can't be taught, you have to actually be good and then you just know by how they answer quests. It's called having experience.
>no idea, I just wing it
>codelets
noone who has 20 years of experience would post this on BOT even if they were unironically posting on BOT
How would you know? I've worked on lots of teams and I can immediately tell who knows shit and actually gets things done and who doesn't and my intuition is right 99% of the time. Sorry that you don't have that.
>muh intuition
you literally guess at random and judge people based on whether you arbitrarely like them or not, I bet every time a woman writes a function that passes a code review, you get infathomaly asshurt for weeks
Oh so you're a roastie and probably an HR parasite. No wonder you are so butthurt at the idea that men know what they are doing and can immediately recognise other men who know what they are doing.
I'm male with my penis and foreskin intact and never had a job in IT because I'd rather do it for free on software that matters than meet you in real life, homosexual.
You wasted such lovely digits on this moronic statement.
my name is recorded in Linux kernel git history, I already got paid more in homage than your employer and government will pay in money
>quickly searches linux kernel for "jeet"
... hmmm, I think you might be trying to do a bamboozle on me!
I'm from eastern europe and my surname has germanic roots. Keep on searching, stupid boomer.
>eastern europe
lol, dropped. You almost had men when I thought you were a jeet that used GPT to get his name in linux kernel code, but know I know you are just a self-hating jeet living in Europe. Sad.
>use GPT
yeah I see you're just a 4cuck larper and don't actually have a job, literally noone uses GPT anywhere for anything
You're using it right now Sandeep! Good morning saar!
do you get paid to hallucinate or is that part free?
I troll jeets for free. Your seething is all the payment I need!
could you tell us about the kind of work you do in your company so we can be sure that you aren't the jeet here?
Sure thing! I work in the department that detects and trolls pajeet homosexuals on the Internet. It is very important work!
I rate this effort a solid 6/10, got me to respond more than once.
The problem is that I can pass interviews with people like you but I don't actually work.
so you don't know shit, got it
Alright, test me for my abilities then. Let's see how well you fare.
>Alright, test me for my abilities then.
Ok, invert a tree using Rust.
No more than 5 lines of code, max 25 characters per line.
Time starts when this response is posted, you have 5 mins. Go!
fn invert(mut node: Option<Box<Node>>) -> Option<Box<Node>> {
if let Some(mut n) = node {
std::mem::swap(&mut n.left, &mut n.right);
invert(n.left);
invert(n.right);
}
node
}
do i get ze job sir ?
>exceed line count
>exceed max character count per line
>exceed allowed time limit
>No way they trained a chicken to do that with an egg
Fail! Do not apply again.
>exceed allowed time limit
not that anon
>exceed line count
first and last don't count
>exceed max character count per line
whatever Black person Gemini wrote this anyway i don't even know what a Box is yet
>No way they trained a chicken to do that with an egg
yeah well if you don't hire me you don't get to know
(mut node: Option<Box<Node>>) -> Option<Box<Node>> {
if let Some(mut n) = node {
I seriously cannot comprehend this language man.
Count yourself lucky anon. Rust was developed by trannies for trannies.
Node is a mutable parameter of type Option<Box<T>>. Box<T> is a heap-allocated pointer that has one owner. Option<T> is a value that can contain either something (of type T) or nothing. So Option<Box<T>> is either a heap-allocated pointer or nothing.
The if-let construction is used to destructure an enum (like Option). So that code is saying, "if node uses the Some discriminant, let n be the value inside that Some (and let it be mutable)".
and?
if you'd learn it you'd comprehend it
do you expect to understand every new thing you encounter right off the bat or something?
it's a function that takes a node as its arguments
all variables are immutable by default, so mut makes it mutable
the type is Node
wrapped in a Box<>, which makes it "owned". This is part of Rust's main feature: ownership and borrowing. the Rust compiler uses the type system to figure out allocation and freeing automatically, so that you can't have use-after-free errors and other memory issues, but also not manage memory at runtime like with a GC.
it's also wrapped in an Option, which is an enum that denotes a value that may be present or absent
enum Option<T> {
Some(T),
None
}
This is how Rust manages the billion dollar null problem:
Because node can either be Some<Node> or None, you can't just do stuff with it. You have to write conditional logic for when it's a Some<Node>. That's where if let comes in.
if let Some(mut n) declares a new variable called n. But it ONLY declares it if the type of node is Some<Node>. If it isn't, then this whole thing is just skipped and we go straight to the last line that just says "node". But really it means "return node" because in Rust there's implicit return if there's no semicolon
and then inside the match arm there's just swapping the branches of the node and then recursively continuing further down the tree
okay?
I wasn't here when you posted this question, don't assume everyone to always be online on BOT.
>Rust
I can do it, but I need some time to learn the language syntax first, which will take more than 5 minutes.
I definitely cannot do it in 5 lines while having to define the structure of the tree either and I cannot assume a structure of my own creation as that will be cheating because I can easy cheese the solution by giving it the pertinent methods (extra cheese by implementing the inversion within it while I just call it once to get it done). But, without going into that, if I were to reasonably assume some given, I would assume the standard binary tree structure (I know you said tree but inversion of a tree is quite meaningless for most implentations, never stumbled upon any that have any node order) of just having an array and iterating downwards with some value as a placeholder for an empty node. In that I would:
>Iterate to the end of the tree - 1 line
>Calculate l of the current node and iterate from it's beginning to the halfway mark and swap with it's inversion. (Both are trivial to calculate, just 1 + the floor of log2 of index + 1, and for the inversion - If you start at the beginning of a level, say level 3, for which the index is 7, then the first inversion is simply twice the number, so 14, iterate one up, and the other down) - 2 lines (Long explanation but fairly simple, if the language syntax allows it, I think it's definitely possible in 2 lines of 25 characters, excluding indenting whitespaces)
> Subtract 1 from the level and loop upwards until it reaches level 1 (root level). - 2 lines (I will use goto if adding another for is considered an extra line)
That's my solution. I don't know rust, So I couldn't do it to your exact specifications, and the other compliances remain to be tested but I think this will do.
(Ps: took me more than 5 minutes close to 8-10 and around 2-3 to type it out, just being honest)
Just looked into it and it's a common enough problem that people actually train for it. Your assertion in
>It can't be taught
and Your declaration in
>People who can regurgitate algos to known problems aren't good programmers. Practical tests are shit.
are both being contradicted.
Also, correction to my answer. 7 will be the beginning of level 4 and not 3, My apologies.
>reducing a problem to a problem with a known efficient solution is bad
>reducing a problem to a problem with a known efficient solution
That part, in particular, is like kryptonite to jeets. Although far East Asians can do it.
I am just pointing out that he believes in not giving out conventional problems as a test and then did the same.
Nowhere did I say it was 'bad'.
I'm a jeet, although I am too lazy to grind and memorize problems to solve unlike many of my brethren.
Lol moronic jeet
Expound
Times up! You failed. Perhaps you can apply again if we ever have any future openings that you may be interested in. Have a good day.
>I can tell within 1 minute if somebody knows how to code and if they'll be any good.
Within an hour, sure. Within a minute, you won't be able to differentiate a moron who memorized a few LC problems.
nah this anon is right. i can tell pretty much immediately after talking to someone.
proofs?
over covid i used to run 3-4 interviews for bigtech. it's always obvious. even when someone had the question leaked to them beforehand. i can just tell
*a week
sorry didn't have my adderall yet
>it's obvious
>have to meet irl for it to be "obvious"
lol
>i can tell pretty much immediately after talking to someone.
You can't. Of course if the motherfricker is from South Asian you have a 99% chance they can't code anyway (other than leetcode examples). Then there are the ones that talk a good game and have the right answers that you would expect, but once you start giving them serious problems to deal with completely shit the bed. The thing I think you are experiencing is that there are so many bootcamp and SEA style programmers interviewing that they get tripped up by intro level questions like "How do you pick an item from an array randomly?" or "Show me how you would process all the items in the DB one-by-one?" and watch them look for a library instead of understanding what a modulo operator is or watch them hit the DB for every single item, etc.
Give me $1K and I can work out a solution for that. I won't give it to you for free :^)
why are you not hiring locally from a specific university/school? Don't give me the talent excuse what the frick are you even doing that requires the top 1%?
>why are you not hiring locally from a specific university/school?
Most of them would be indians or chinese
Make an ai live chat as part of the interview process, or use some kind of 'spelling captcha' you can use to gauge the real quality. Maybe play a sentence over the speaker that the applicant needs to type within 10 seconds.
Wagies will never comprehend the fact that adopting memelangs will fix a monumental amount of issues with hiring and finding talent
>tfw good engineer but German and apparently getting filtered with all the Pajeets because my english sucks
Give me a break I only started learning this garbage language when I was like 17.
you shouldn't have to write cover letters you get a job via connections. Apply for small corps they don't care for cover letters.
here's a solution:
1, generate 1000 fake cover letters using tools you expect pajeets to use
2, log the frequencies of words
3, check real cover letters for rare words you expect to find in LLM generated shit
4, if it fails to reach some threshold then a real human can read it
i hope this helps with your pajeet problem
t. white man
PaJeePT Detect 1.0
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-01051-2
People have already started doing that for scientific articles, it's depressing how many papers were AI generated in 2023.
In that case chatbots like to constantly vomit out certain positive adjectives that humans don't use with nearly the same frequency, there's probably something similar for cover letters. Possibly even the same words.
>By comparing the use of adjectives in a total of more than 146,000 peer reviews submitted to the same conferences before and after the release of ChatGPT, the analysis found that the frequency of certain positive adjectives, such as ‘commendable’, ‘innovative’, ‘meticulous’, ‘intricate’, ‘notable’ and ‘versatile’, had increased significantly since the chatbot’s use became mainstream. The study flagged the 100 most disproportionately used adjectives.
Watch for the AI positivitybabble.
just train an llm with real jeet cvs to put into the "do not want" category, and others into the "do want" category. eventually you'll have a racist llm to filter cvs without doing anything overtly racist like filtering cvs based of foreign names.
You could just make this a 1 word post:
>stylometry
Can't you make it a requirement for the candidates to have to live in the US? That should filter a lot of them.
many visajeets are inside the US unfortunately
Yes, but a lot are definitely coming from India if your working remotely.
>if your
good morning sir
I am 3rdie but I am not indian and I am not seeking employment.
I've seen more amerimutts write like this before you were even born than indians
>He hasn't had a chat with a mutt in the past 10 years
Is it illegal to filter and reject applications because of race, age, gender, etc. if your company is "100% remote"? Please, tell us the name of the company who had offered you a bonus to break the law?
companies literally also get subsidies for some % of workers being women and stuff, I wonder if those laws count trannies as women despite providing work value of men
Sorry, but this isn't affirmative action; what's described is a conscious decision to weed and reject candidates from a particular ethnic group.
I've been told a lot that correlation does not equal causation, I guess it is a thing.
>correlation does not equal causation
I think it is "correlation does not imply causation" ... yet sometimes it does.
well here it certainly does not, OP has not once mentioned anything racist
Really.....
>Also, why are Pajeets so moronic?
that was probably autocorrect
Ducking solid phone posting scum.
Is it legal to lie on a cover letter and resume? Can you sue a person that does this? Please tell us the names of people that would dare lie on a resume or cover letter so blatantly that they even have to get GPT to help them lie about even speaking English clearly and effectively.
yikes chuddy, it's racist to expect people to know English, there's nothing wrong with using assistance for that
Why not just filter Hindu names?
because you'd still get dravidian, paki and bangladeshi applicants. what kind of question is that?
Which also have distinct naming patterns.
well then why did you say "hindi" names, homosexual? could have simply said shitskin names
because they're all the fricking same and there's no point breaking it all down by subspecies and geographic region. would you shit your street if he said "chinks" but he actually meant all asians and not just chinese? probably
Name your company as I would like to apply. Also the job description please? I'm a 51 year old white man from a first world country with a massive amount of experience to bring to the role. Hope my age isn't a barrier.
watch out
this is a pajeet trying to expose your company
GOOD MORNING SIR, FIRM IS BEING CALLED IBM
Can't you just automatically reject everyone named "Pookih" or "Vajeet" or something like that?
What, he meant to type, "Also, why are pallets so repeated"…?
>Now they're all using LLMs to write their cover letter and it's wasting a lot of our time
LOL, who the frick reads cover letters?
Apparently the OP with his imaginary, made up problem.
you can solve this problem by not hiring people at all, unless you personally know them. if you're hiring people because you work for someone else, you should simply not care. what part of the profit do you see? being a hiring manager is the most cuckworthy thing you could ever do
with gpt4 helping write code you don't even need to hire someone. why would you hire someone for the fun part of the job anyways?
>inb4 you're not an indie dev
>pic related
hey chat gpt, write me a cover letter except make spelling and grammar errors so they know I’m human
it's over
Good morning sir, am sure I can help with you're LMM problem. Please do the needful to redeem my offer asap
stop asking for cover letters
even before ai everything you were getting was from a word template where someone dropped in the title and company name and it shit out a docx
your hr girl should be doing 15 minute screeners to filter morons
>Too lazy to interview people in person
>Too cheap to hire someone to do it
Are you sure YOU aren't the pajeet?
>Too lazy to interview people in person
>Too cheap to hire someone to do it
I see that you have hire anyone lately. Posting a job will get thousands of jeet applications, nearly all identical. It is fricking overwhelming. A smallish company can not afford to deal with that shit. Even a mid-sized company notices the hit that these street shitters bring to the party. It is pretty fricked anon.
Hire a Jeet to sniff them out. They take orders well even if you tell them to betray their own race
Yes they take orders well, that is why the ((boards)) put jeets in charge of groups or companies, however it only works if it is a more mature company. It is the execution that they can not do. If they followed orders and could do a good job OP would be begging for help recruiting them, not filtering them.
wow
I just want something to detect slop images so I can filter them everywhere
OK, here is the solution: automated phone callback. You have a machine call them all back, ask some rudimentary questions, and speech to text the result. Axe the applicants with grammar errors
Pretty clever anon. However speech-to-text is still a little flaky though. Google is best in class, and look at the awful shit it puts out for captions.
Flakier if you sound like an old scooter trying to idle in cold weather
Not really, speech-to-text improved a lot with whisper v3.
>Not really, speech-to-text improved a lot with whisper v3.
Why doesn't Google have access to this wonderful technology?
Man, Google is filled with pajeets. Their products are failling all the time, don't get me started with their in-house shitty AI.
>don't get me started with their in-house shitty AI.
Show me on this doll where Gemini touched you ...
That's a pretty cool idea. You should implement this yourself and sell it as a service before some homosexual grifter does.
i hate the antichrist
So now I’m obsessed with trying to figure out how to burn pajeet time. Fake company, fake job postings, perhaps some lengthy GPT generated and randomized question forms. What else?
Actually this might be useful, just like how people create email accounts just to collect spam to train spam filters
Jeet Honeypot™ ... SaaS for businesses looking to reduce the jeet menace to your HR department. Should I try it as a startup anons? How much should I charge?
100% remote, looking for diversifying the company.
There's already a solution, outsourcing recruitment.
Also discrimination is illegal during recruitment.
Choosing the best applicant is literally discrimination
Ask what caste they are, with an explanation that you want to prioritise disadvantaged castes for the sake of diversity.
Higher castes won't apply because they won't want to work alongside lower castes.
Lower castes won't be qualified applicants anyway.
Win/win
>Ask what caste they are
Already failed and made an ((attorney)) rich on the ensuing lawsuit.
don't do this or you'll become the first white man to be prosecuted for casteism. just look up a brahmin name and an untouchable name and namedrop them in the interview. high case jeets won't work alongside dalits and low caste jeets know the brahmin will treat them like shit.
The funniest thing I have seen recently in legal circles is when California had to deal with caste bias laws. The lower castes wanted a law to protect them from the upper castes that wouldn't hire them. The governor vetoed because it would imply that a non-White person could be racist or discriminate. Very hilarious own goal!
1. Hire by referral
2. Use a talent recruiting company
>1. Hire by referral
This is the answer! Offer a $500-$1000 bonus to any employees that refer someone that lasts 90 days.
looking at their skin and how far apart there eyes are
lmaoing at you corporate cucks and your hiring minigame. anyway. my solution would be gpt4 vision with the prompt "check the applicants picture and examine how likely they are from india, confidence 0% to 100%. If confidence less than 18%, write applicants name in tobeinterviewed.txt"
>be gpt4 vision with the prompt "check the applicants picture and examine how likely they are from india
Sorry, I can't determine race or ethnicity from images.
Alright, let me spoonfeed ya:
Look at their portfolios. Look at their github repos.
Filter resumes that don't have these. Filter resumes from anyone under 25. There you go.
In a few years everyone will be forced to interview either in person on with "approved" VR goggles anyway.
>Look at their portfolios.
>Look at their github repos.
6,000+ applicants. Anon, I am not sure you are understanding the assignment.
I do understand it, you moron.
Write a bot that fricking scrapes the number of origamu repos on someone's account, and their activity. Use a LLM to assign them a "programming grade". Original repos that are just leetcode solutions get a D. Webshit gets a C. Configs get B-. Actual projects from B to S.
And it's not like you're hiring 9000 people. You're hiring like 5 guys at the most. You must spend at least an hour per viable candidate. It's like spend per customer in advertising. Do some legwork you fricking worthless "CEO".
>Write a bot
>Use a LLM
Ok, now you are back to all the failing ideas from above.
>Ok, now you are back to all the failing ideas from above.
If all you want to do is whine, then go ahead. Just don't tell me I should be whining too.
Don't whine gay, just go broke or go to jail for "disparate impact" laws.
>checking github and portfolios makes you racist
It doesn't.
>Filter resumes from anyone under 25
Why? I see this everywhere but got no explanation.
>Why? I see this everywhere but got no explanation.
All lazy neurotic fricks with bootcamp "certificates" for JavaScript that call themselves 10X Full Stack Developers.
All?
Yes!
probably ask them to write a unethical, morbid and extremely racist essay, with a randomized question, as part of the job application.
Subscribe to one of those services universities use to check for plagiarism in essays like turnitin or whatever, they have llm detection capability now apparently.
>they have llm detection capability now apparently.
They don't.
I don't get this picture
He's already inside the meeting (with 2 devices and a note taking bot?) and waiting outside on another device?
Are you the recruiter from jetbrains? the one who wanted to filter out applications from india? lmao
Popping into the thread to wish sirs a good morning!
🙂
Good morning sir
more like pooping
My company doesn't post job applications. We're invite only. If you want the best of the best you can't just hire anyone from the street for frick's sake.
voice response to preselected questions
train AI to identify accents
trash all jeet applicants for poor english
Late to the thread but here's an idea.
Basically you make an online form where they're forced to apply from.
Ask some basic questions related to the position, like "Describe your first steps when starting a project from scratch."
Have some javascript to detect exactly how the text field is modified, basically a keylogger, to detect if the entire thing was pasted in.
In case they type by themselves you can also use the good ol regex.
Also, you should be able to detect if they copy the question.
Calculate a score based on multiple factors like these and just reject the worst 90%.
>googles on second device
now what
Ok, but then they still have to type by themselves?
And they'll get rejected based on that.
This is a good idea.
based and correct-pilled
Reject them
Has it been discussed why OP can't just ban all IP's that aren't from where he's from?
Sir, please. No disrespect to India. It is just not right.
Why not just tell them to attach their selfie to the CV?
Filter by font
Nobody cares about a cover letter though, they look at your work history and maybe related course work, they dont even have time or care to read a cover letter.