of course, that make sense now
countless articles have reported "racist" AIs, but this one is saying >Oh no, the law just canceled a mutt >this is bad >therefore AI good >checkmate goy >eat your goyslop
>That woke shit is what sells in the indie comic industry now
False. What sells the most is the Ripaverse, and it's basically comics without politics. They call it far-right and extremist, but the only thing it does is ignore politics and focus on the heroing.
I take your point but that seems like entirely the wrong word to use.
You have to do the woke shit so the gay mafia in indie comics lets you get big enough there to get into major comics and you have to do the woke shit in major comics to get your shit into the next wave of the movies.
No one actually wants to buy it. They actually force comic book shops to order it!
They literally don't let them order the ones that are likely to sell unless they also order woke shit.
>That woke shit is what sells in the indie comic industry now
no it doesnt, it specifically drops sales. they do it because they get bribed, promoted, intimidated and paid by organizations like blackrock, fbi, etc.
of course, that make sense now
countless articles have reported "racist" AIs, but this one is saying >Oh no, the law just canceled a mutt >this is bad >therefore AI good >checkmate goy >eat your goyslop
>AI-Created
more like AI-~~*prompted*~~
That woke shit is what sells in the indie comic industry now
https://i.imgur.com/RNmtTP1.jpg
>sells
kek
>artist have infinite databases of everything beautiful and best art of all mankind >Artist can also take mental picture of scenery >AI CAN'T CAUSE IT REMEMBERS BETTER.
in this world AI art will be illegal but behind closed doors at disney pixar is going to be an AGI that is only ever credited with inspiration despite it creating all the heavy lifting
And even if you use AI, you can just claim you're doing img2img work using your own sketches as a base, which would circumvent this as AI is only used as a enhancement of your original art.
It would work, because there are "professional" and I use that term loosely, artists that simply use someone else's photo and trace over it, using Photoshop to make it indistinguishable as their own
It would, but the current thing already should. Even if SD does the technical part of the drawing, you still decide matters of composition and structure. There's an argument there that SD pictures are 66.6% human made; I don't know if the people making the law understand this or not.
the freemarket will literally make UBI a reality.
I know it sounds dumb.
But when you play monopoly, you receive 20k when you pass the start. Otherwise, the game wouldn't work.
Nope, in many cases slaves have been cheaper than machines even to this day. For example the cobalt mines in congo practically use slave labor over costly machines still.
5 months ago
Anonymous
tbh its just a question of accessibility, mineral-rich developed countries like canada and australia use heavy industrial machinery to extract because its usually run by corporations to who will try to make every aspect of the mining process as efficient as possible and they have the money to easily buy such equipment
african mines are either run by poorly run governments or rebel groups, and they cant or wont buy these imported western equipment for several obvious reasons, so they just resort to using human labor
5 months ago
Anonymous
If that is the case then Canada and Australia should be selling Cobalt for much cheaper because of this purported better efficiency from the machines. But Congo still sells cobalt for much cheaper than any other country simply because it pays cents for their slave labor and their easily replaceable. Whereas machines in the developed countries will cost millions of dollars for operations, repair and maintenance.
5 months ago
Anonymous
australia and canada are actually the 3rd and 4th top exporters of cobalt respectively, but the DR congo is the 1st by a very huge margin simply because they have way more cobalt than the rest of the world, that country alone has 50% of the global supply
5 months ago
Anonymous
If using machines was cheaper Congo would use it to earn more revenues, slaves simply are cheaper.
5 months ago
Anonymous
they either cant use it because the companies who make it and sell the machines cant send it there because they refuse to do business in a very unstable and dangerous country, remember that some of these mines are controlled by rebel groups who are actively at war with the current government AND the people who can operate those machines, either foreign or native cant work there because its so dangerous so they stay or move to mines in safer countries
oh btw the price of cobalt is determined by the global commodities market, and not in a per country basis, the real reason cobalt from the congo is still getting sold is as mentioned, they just have so much of it, the countries or companies who need it arent just gonna lock themselves out of half the cobalt reserves because of moral reasons
the freemarket will literally make UBI a reality.
I know it sounds dumb.
But when you play monopoly, you receive 20k when you pass the start. Otherwise, the game wouldn't work.
You only have to look at inflation in Australia during covid when they gave a bunch of welfare to most people to see how bad that is for inflation and supply.
The only world it would succeed in is one where everyone was self sufficient.
And we live in the complete inverse of that right now.
>You only have to look at inflation in Australia during covid
Go look at the supply of money. The printing by the BCE.
Inflation isn't caused by how you distribute money, it is caused by the supply of money.
Actually the classical definition of inflation is an increase in money supply.
Your example makes no sense. UBI is not the same as an impromptu stimulus in an emergency state. It's tantamount to arguing we shouldn't have rowboats because some guy hit by a flash flide tried to wade on a log with a broom and it didn't work out.
Surely even if the images in the comic alone aren't copyrightable, the added text would make it eligible for copyright the same as if you used public domain images in a book?
Or was the text AI generated as well?
This is what I was thinking too. Even if the text is AI generated you'd think that combining copyright free generated images with copyright free generated text counts as transformative.
taking individually uncopyrightable parts to make something copyrightable is literally how all art ever has been made
your canvas, paint, and brushes aren't copyrightable, but the painting you made with them is
Good, people hate AI artists because it steals from artists. I hate AI artists because an abominable intelligence will never have the capacity to match a human artist and is a mockery to the human spirit in art.
Entertainment media producers like Disney are already in full swing lobbying to regulate AI media creation.
It's going to end up where only large corporations can use AI media creation tools and have the IP protected, while any individual using AI tools can't copyright their work at all.
prompt engineer-sisters, how will we ever recover from this?
What does it matter? Nobody can disprove you didn't draw the image. It's not like you're submitting an art portfolio for traditional art.
Seriously, all digital art is the same to me. You're utilizing technology to boost your mediocre skills. Whereas REAL traditional artists (not modern art or abstract art of any money laundering scheme), can never be replaced. They know how to take a tool and turn it into something great. Sculptors, chiselers, architects, painters....anybody who uses technology to produce art is the same, AI and digital artists. All the same.
AI is going to be a game changer in animation, if it can successfully generate all the in-between frames for 2d and 3d animation you'd need half the artists and never need to touch Korean in-betweeners
Just wait for the boomers to finally croak. A lot of retarded, ass backwards policy making you see is from boomers too stupid to know better or are boomers warping the system for their own benefits/ideological enfrocement.
>Be Disney or any other entertainment giant >Realize some random startup, Pajeet or Chink can just train an AI model on your property and start cranking out copycat products by the dozens on a yearly basis >Pay politicians to revoke copyrights from AI created works >At the same time have your engineers program an in house AI to speed up your work process while requiring less workforce.
We're going to see an era of extreme product protectionism while everyone develops a competing AI in house.
just get a mole on the inside to leak the fact that they use in house AI and then poof "fruit of the poisoned tree" everyone gets to use the big companies IP
That's not what this ruling says you dimwit, it says only human made art is copyrightable.
Intellectual property and copyright are completely different things retards. Educate yourselves. Without intellectual property there would be no incentive to invent anything new.
>bro mathematicians are all commies they keep researching math even though they can't file a patent on any of their findings bro I'm telling you bro why would people discover stuff without IP bro we must boost maths by making formulas copyrighteable
ideas are not real property
words on paper are not real property
specific arrangements of 1s and 0s are not real property
specific arrangements of molecules... wait a sec
Who cares? Either this decision will be reversed eventually when big companies start using AI or the concept of copyright as we know it today will simply die.
Either outcome is fine in my view.
They won't, prompting is automated next. It was never about having anyone be allowed to live any lifestyle not shit work. They focus their work on stealing your hobbies so you slave in the coal mines. They can make robots there and were able to for decades but would rather work you to death instead.
So I lie and say I made it.
What now? You don't have a court of law and a judge deciding whether or not it was really made by me. The entire point of things like stable diffusion is to reach the level where it is indistinguishable from something a human produced, by design you won't be able to prove I didn't make it.
No, what you do is you abduct the suing party's child, send them a finger in a post and say "I'll send another part of her every week until you drop this case".
Or you brainfuck that party with drugs, etc.
AI Art people are douchebag people
They're the smug pharaoh man huffing the farts as they smugly talk about their funny looking AI pics with oversized tiddies.
I mean, AI creations were not copyrightable simply because they were not created by a human being so... Everything is as it should be?
Copyleft bros, we won!
I meant the complete process starting from making art. Digital artists would first create some kind of low effort digital art then make slight edits as different variants. They would then mint those as NFTs. With AI, you can create "unique" NFTs and just shit them out
Seems like an easy case if you take it to court. Even if you didn't paint the images, you wrote text, a story, you set up the paneling, you all the non-image artistic decisions, and it would be easy to make an argument that prompting involves creative decisionmaking.
i mean have you seen how shit that comic is, real artist will be fine. AI prompt collaging is fine for art larpers to create cgi pics of their waifu with massive tits and that's fine. It's a fun toy for people with no artistic talent to play with and that's all it will ever be. In a year no one will even care.
I can affirm you my drawing art is, at least, a league above yours. And yet I'm having a blast using AI. It accelerates my workflow and consequently makes me more money.
Your brat tears can't stop the future.
The undeniable fact is:
If you are afraid of AI (or think it is unethical), you are a fucking retard with low skills.
AI is good for humanity, períod.
And that is the only thing that matters.
I didn't give a fuck when truck drivers protested about new train lines being built. Train lines are much more efficient for the whole country. And I don't give a fuck about what you think right now. Your income is not important in the grand scheme of things.
Adapt or die.
Also, most of you doesn't even know how Photoshop works under the hood (or any other software), but AFFIRM that AI is stealing pictures, because you KNOW, lmao.
An Arduino with OpenCV would blow your brainlet mind.
Not gonna lie, at least all this crying is fucking hilarious.
AI isn't going anywhere. You must be pretty retard to even consider that.
Get gud, morones.
The future waits for no one.
>is AI good for humanity
always do opposite of what ~~*he*~~ says. If the tribe and Soros and all the others are joyfully awaiting AI there is a 0.00% chance that AI is "good for humanity"
>AI is good for humanity, períod.
Debatable, we have to wait to see the effects, technology always has trade offs, some which only become apparent several generations later. This technology is like the car, you could argue the car was also good for humanity by allowing people to travel further faster but we also got death traps that kill almost as many people yearly as guns, pollution and ugly cities. Not saying we should ban it, but let's not open every genie bottle with reckless abandonment, there's a reason some bottles are better off left closed.
Let's be honest here: artists have become too fat and too complacent. $200 commissions for pics without shading, taking 6-9 months to complete commission, and making zero interactions with customer (I completed the commission, take it or leave it, if you want changes make another commission that I'll complete in another half-year) have become the norm. Writers are finally getting sick of delaying story publications because some shit taken their money and refuse to deliver in a timely manner. AI generation is perfect for story covers, is free, can iterate on it infinitely, etc.
SD is based. >ethical
Fuck off, it's a buzzword >mining data
DALL-E 2 uses even more copyrighted works than SD. And yet they have PR team that deflects everything perfectly. You didn't even notice that they brainwashed you into attacking SD only, did you?..
Also re-read Google ToS. They can feed your private photos (and art, if you uploaded it to GDrive) to all kinds of AI, because you legally agreed to it.
>"""Open"""AI makes image gen >radio silence >Open source model released >REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!! >Google makes their own image gen >radio silence again >Fucking {{{Tencent}}} makes image gen app >more radio silence
Really makes you think...
They're REE'ing against Midjourney as well, but you're still right.
From all the rage, it's weird seeing OpenAI and other corporate generators not be targeted as hard as SD.
Almost like some astroturfing is in play.
No such thing. Our society understand the values of AI but more importantly realizes the dangers of allowing such a powerful tool to fall into the wrong hands and end up misused to harm innocent people. Companies such as OpenAI and Google have proven their social value and will to better our world and as such there is no reason to prevent them from utilizing this new and promising technology. Our attention must be focused on preventing the spread of this technology because if we do not we will end up with a problem even bigger than guns.
DALL-E is trained to not generate copyrighted entities like a nintendo switch. Probably something simple like retuning some knobs after the 1st gen until it doesn't look like [protected property]
Yeah, there has been a precedent since the whole shebang about animals or specifically monkeys taking pictures and humans who own the equipment and engineered the situation to get a picture trying to copyright them. I think a court will need to step in to decide how to go about this and the Supreme Court in the US will need to be involved.
>there has been a precedent
Why do people care about precedent?
Just start a black market. These morons don't play by the rules to begin with, why should you?
Give em hell.
According to this ruling pretty much everything that was enhanced by AI or went through automation processes must be copyright free now, a human typed the proompts for this comic, this must be enough or everything that was made using technology is copyright free, the judge made a big mistake there
Its not a lie, he did make it himself. He used a computer program to create art just like every other digital artist. People will just call it digital art until the patent retards stop being retarded.
You are free to open Krita (free program) right now and show me how you draw.
After all it's digital so it's exaclty the same as clicking a button for AI to make it for you.
Waiting for your quality art.
Youre the one who is a piece of shit liar. You dont even know what your talking about, cry, and then demand someone draw something to "prove" they are an artist. Youre a literal brain dead lying shit cunt.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Here you go moron, I drew this.
Waiting for you now, cumslurper.
5 months ago
Anonymous
You just do not get it, do you? You are incapable of understanding what is happening, and that is making you mad. So you challenge random strangers to a literal medieval style duel to assert dominance. Youre just wrong and an idiot.
5 months ago
Anonymous
You will never be an artist, you are liek a pajeet pressing a button.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Yet pressing that button will allow him to make better art than 90% of people on Artstation, and more importantly, art that reflects what he wants to see
This is why 'artists' are seething, they are now obsolete, and good riddance, 80% of the art on Artstation is interchangeable, same subjects (oh, a new show is out on Netflix, I will do a paint-over of the girl boss), same artstyle.
Only ones who will still stay employed are those who will embrace AI and thus massively increase their productivity and quality, an artist making use of AI to make professional art will have a gigantic advantage over a non-artist.
5 months ago
Anonymous
I'm not talking about employment, schizo.
I don't care about the quality either.
I care about aimorons thinking they are hot shit when they press a button that steals from someone else.
Also you just proved how petty and spiteful you gays are.
All the worst to you.
One isolated image I would understand, even if managing the prompt, models, negatives, sampling and parameters is not trivial.
Editing the image with img2img and inpainting is harder to justify.
A whole comic with a complete narrative and AI generated images consistent with it to illustrate things should be obvious. Is it was a text only book there would be no discussion. Adding things to it makes it less original?
That being said, the less copyright the better. It has hindered innovations for too long and became clearly abusive recently after being extended to lifetimes and all the derivative nonsense.
There is always two, a master and an apprentice. 10 other chud might also be there, screeching and hurling shit, but only the most dilated of chuds sit on the throon of power
I can already tell where this is going. Disney will lobby to make art styles copyrightable, and once that's done, they will start using AI and lobby to make AI content copyrightable but only if it's made by a big corporation using their own copyrighted art styles.
Recover from what? That's a good thing. Why would you want to copyright AI generated art? I thought the whole point of AI art is to help bolster creativity by rapidly prototyping countless works.
If it was eligible for copyright, what's to stop copyright trolls to just have a bitcoin mining style rig churning out terabytes of copyrighted work to the point nothing new can be made because it's too similar to some copyright database?
Only big corporations will be able to use AI in near future because everyone else will die in legal battles. You will eat ze bugs, you will live in ze pod and fuck you, YOU will be also unhappy (and unable to do anything about that).
What about the characters? The writing? Composition? Thats not copywritable? He created these images, just with words and a computer program instead of paint. How is that different than any other piece of digital art? What a stupid fucking decision that will obviously be reversed.
Ban open source models like SD. If that happened, SD 2.1 is where it stops. You will never have an updated model. And a year from now that model will be shit compared to what ai can do. You won't be able to make animations or access any of the future developments. People won't just keep building on top of SD 2 forever. It's like when Steam de-lists a game, the community dries up and people stop making mods, etc. and say it's a dead game. True, the people that already downloaded it still have it. But this is despite that >the community can make their own
SD cost 600k to train. The sad thing is paintpigs would cheer and celebrate the victory if this happened.
AI is also quickly learning to code. You just tell it what kind of code you need. Right now it can only do simple stuff but it works. It a year or 2 coders will be out of work. Anyone will be able to tell an AI what kind of code work they need in plain english.
kinda weird that BOT is so pro automation when programming is probably going to be the first in the long list of replaceable white-collar jobs in the future, is it just because artgays are more left-leaning?
those are merely tools for the people in those field to use, a better analogy is someone inventing construction bots, they will do nothing but build stuff and they dont need stupid shit like a paycheck and not being able to strike (for now), and then the people who do construction will be put out of work
Youre retarded. You literally just gave a supporting example. A builder bot is literally a toll that multiplies and individuals production. Its literally no different that a hammer, or a back hoe, or a crane.
im talking about a robot/or group of robots that would do EVERYTHING in construction without any human involvement and entirely replace construction workers
Youre not getting it. Robots dont just randomly do things, someone told it to do something. It could be one person who told it to build a house, this means you only need one person to build an entire house, you just multiplied his production.
A human learns to draw from the media and resources around them. No matter how unique of an artist you think you are, the exact combination of how you draw is a result of how you learned to draw.
Diffusion models don't "steal" art, they just steal the ability to create it. They take an image, are told what the image is, then are given white noise with the description of the image and are told to draw it. It practices this for millions of images billions of times to abstract words into an image.
The issue of copyright arises when you tell this AI to draw an image in the style of another artist. It can learn to replicate the compositional styles of another artist and draw original art in a imitation of their unique combination of skill.
Because in their mind, another human isn't making it, a human is just training it and prompting it and then editing the imperfections of the image through multiple permutations and manual editing.
So, you know, not art I guess.
so artists fall back to "AI art is not art by definition" argument then, supposedly because there is no human expression or whatever
The point is if you make an art yourself then it's a display of your skill, knowledge and effort.
If AI makes it it's just a pretty picture, nothing else.
good
so the point is artists don't want AI generated pictures that are appealing or pretty labelled as art yes?
5 months ago
Anonymous
No, artists don't want button pushers to pretend they made something when it's the machine that did it.
If a robot of Mike Tyson won world championship it would be the bot winning, not you.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Do you see the mentality now? People like
No, artists don't want button pushers to pretend they made something when it's the machine that did it.
If a robot of Mike Tyson won world championship it would be the bot winning, not you.
ascribe no human authorship to the images, regardless of how much human involvement went into it's creation.
5 months ago
Anonymous
You showed no skill, no mastery in the craft, you pressed a button. That's it. You can stay delusional for all I care.
5 months ago
Anonymous
if there is no human autorship then how does one argue that it is copying or plagiarising humans? if we assume the AI copied an artist's images, then there needs to be some degree of human autorship there considering it is based on the art created by the artist
A human learns to draw from the media and resources around them. No matter how unique of an artist you think you are, the exact combination of how you draw is a result of how you learned to draw.
Diffusion models don't "steal" art, they just steal the ability to create it. They take an image, are told what the image is, then are given white noise with the description of the image and are told to draw it. It practices this for millions of images billions of times to abstract words into an image.
The issue of copyright arises when you tell this AI to draw an image in the style of another artist. It can learn to replicate the compositional styles of another artist and draw original art in a imitation of their unique combination of skill.
>steal
Artcels literally published their works freely. I'm talking about the digital illustrators whose rely on publishing their artworks on social media for publicity. If you're that protective over your works, then at least put an effort on it.
The goal was to build a following with their first few art pieces then paywall near everything else. They're mad they can't be Disney on a smaller scale.
>what you ask the model to draw does NOT train the model nor affects it. The model was trained before it was released to the public, not while it used.
That is the case now. However isnt it likely that it will eventually try to learn from user inputs. That would be the fastest way for it to learn
>work on more important things
why even bother when you cant maintain the roof over your head?, are you going to live on welfare for the rest of your life?
>t retard who doesnt know anything about software engineering
AI is like the philosopher stone of software you stupid cow.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Clearly in the future the PO will be proompting all day for the perfectly generated software
5 months ago
Anonymous
>a person who applies the principles of software engineering to design, develop, maintain, test, and evaluate computer software.
you do know this can be done by AI once its advanced enough right
5 months ago
Anonymous
Youre not very smart but I guess that why youre an artist.
5 months ago
Anonymous
you're going be unemployed in the future and you will cry about it
5 months ago
Anonymous
Nope. Even your fantasies are stupid and pathetic.
5 months ago
Anonymous
if AI can do something as subjective as art then it can do your job easy
cope
5 months ago
Anonymous
Not him but art has turned out to be easier for AI than other tasks. However that guy is in complete denial if he thinks dev jobs are not going to go extinct soon by AI
5 months ago
Anonymous
Currently available AI is able to shit out coding solutions in minutes which could otherwise take hours or even days. There will be tons of developers who will find it hard to justify being paid those high salaries for doing next to nothing most days. Especially when companies will be able to manage accomplishing those tasks with fraction of the dev team with help of AI.
Even if all dev jobs dont become obsolete which it most likely will. At the very least most dev jobs will become obsolete. Devs are going to be horse carriage drivers of this generation.
>In 7-10 years, being a programmer will be a niche profession.
They were already saying that in the 80s.
Did they have AI this advanced in the 80s? Everyone will have to cope, front and backend webshitters first and foremost. Lower-level and high-level codebases are included. They will stop hiring entry-level webshitters, then the "old-guard" will slowly be replaced by new infrastructure. And when quantum becomes a reality (very soon), AI will become a force multiplier.
Lot of devs have already recognized that it is inevitable and it is gonna happen within this decade. Some devs are in denial and think since the current version isnt good enough that it will not get better than what they can do in their ifetime. However I have not seen any devs seething and/or planning on AI boycotts
The Moderna vaccine was made using AI.
The company was granted a patent for the vaccine.
But now one cannot gain copyright protection for AI art?
This is schizophrenic and a terrible idea.
But then again we are in the age of terrible ideas.
>The Moderna vaccine was made using AI.
thats not real right?, do they just lay off the people who do make vaccines?, is something as technical and specific as inventing new vaccines an AI thing now?
>thats not real right?, do they just lay off the people who do make vaccines?, is something as technical and specific as inventing new vaccines an AI thing now
The prompting goes something like this: Give me a list of molecules which will bind to this receptor with the following characteristics: ...
For the scoop search: Morderna vaccine AI
Search: Powerful antibiotics discovered using AI - Nature
I can't post the link because BOT thinks its spam.
AND AI was used to generate CHEMICAL WEAPONS. Because hey why not.
Article name: Repurposed drug-seeking AI system generates 40,000 possible chemical weapons in just six hours
I can't post the link because BOT thinks its spam.
What I think it means is this: A single programmer will be able to take on a much larger project on their own. When I write larger I mean an order of magnitude larger.
For myself I look forward to a time where I can code a MMORPG with AI generated content which fleshes out the world.
You're still fucked in some ways, as the AI can't generate some income for your electric bill, or the servers you need to run that MMORPG. Or the players.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Startups always have capital requirements.
When you can show investors a world that is 99% functional you're going to have a better time attracting capital.
My point is this: I thought that AI was the death of creativity, but the more I think about it the more opportunities seem to arise.
Anyway gotta go. Talk later.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>any gay can make fully featured MMOrpg now >implying you would get funding
holy COPE
5 months ago
Anonymous
>>any gay can make fully featured MMOrpg now
you would get funding
POWER TO THE GAMER!
5 months ago
Anonymous
Only good thing about it. I would just make a fully featured GOR MMO for just me and my AI rapeslaves as players. Fuck the rest of you poor morons.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Triple A indie games. Or would that be Quadruple A indie games? Just image a fanmade Sonic game with AI level of polish to it.
5 months ago
Anonymous
No a bad idea, you could flesh out a Magic The Gathering style AI card generation framework where you simply plug in prompts and it produces a card game with pictures and blurb written on each card, with everything balanced from competitive play based off other card game concepts.
>do they just lay off the people who do make vaccines?
Not yet because its still nascent in medical fields and also there would be lot more safety concerns to not have any human involvement for a while. But it sure looks like they would hire less people from the bio field and more from the tech field.
>is something as technical and specific as inventing new vaccines an AI thing now?
It easily can be if AI is going to give the best vaccines. The MRNA vaccines for coronavirus create by AI has higher efficacy rate than the ones created by legacy techniques. So moving forward AI definitely will be more involved in Bio fields.
Since human biology and the field of medicine is so complex they would put a lot of human supervision but if enough safety protocols are put in place AI would probably do a better job than humans that can make easy mistakes
>artist whine to get what they want >get what they want because of whining
Can any of the actual artgays itt tell me why I should respect a single one of you?
I draw both digitally and traditionally, the only difference is the QoL that I do not have to watch the wear of the paper and lug a bunch of supplier.
Don't say anyting if you don't know art, moron.
Artists are busy believing the most retarded misinfo and propaganda on twitter and getting swindled into throwing money at random gofundmes so yeah they're pretty dumb
Do I look like I care? AI gives free art to the masses. That is enough reason for me to support it. No longer will we have to wait months or ever years for a delivery on commissions, that is if the artist doesn't take the money, run and return some time later to do it all over again. I don't care for your struggles. "OH I had to carry a tablet with me all day, oh woe is me" Fuck you, moron.
Masses are a bunch of cattle without taste, just like you, coomer.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>wastes his life drawing filth for cattle >thinks he's better
5 months ago
Anonymous
I draw for myself
Ai is freeing you from dealing them.
How is this not a good thing?
I guess, still leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
It's like watching homeless fuck.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Good for you.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>I draw for myself
So what's the problem with AI then?
5 months ago
Anonymous
morons pretending they have a skill where they simply press a button.
5 months ago
Anonymous
writers often just press buttons, too, so do programmers
you know what your problem is? us vs. them mentality, you don't see artists using ai as artists, you see them as outsiders who are threatening you, you're scared of them
5 months ago
Anonymous
https://i.imgur.com/FeJXyRD.gif
>digital pen has buttons >wacom tablets have buttons >retard just called himself a moron
>writers often just press buttons, too, so do programmers
that's fake equivalence and you know it.
It's doing something vs having it done for you.
You have grade school arguments.
5 months ago
Anonymous
it's a matter of defining how much work a tool can do before it's no longer considered a human product
when i hammer a nail, i drove the nail, not the hammer, the nail is only there because i willed it, the hammer had no say in the matter, we do not blame the hammer when it hits a finger
5 months ago
Anonymous
bro idk what you smokin but i want in, that was the least coherent thoughtramble i've strolled down for a while. You should go and determine the value of your excess labour like a legit commie chud
5 months ago
Anonymous
mate if you can't understand what i'm saying, then maybe it is you who can only handle grade school arguments
5 months ago
Anonymous
I think you're trying to say is the nail and yourself had a conversation, which the hammer was not privy to, about where it would be nailed in. The nail bowed to your willpower, but the hammer had no say in the matter, for it was not driven like the nail, so if it hits your thumb, your thumb is to blame.
5 months ago
Anonymous
i'm saying the hammer is a tool, when i use it, it becomes an extension of my will, just like if i were to punch something, i punched it, not just my hand, even though it was only my hand which made contact and delivered the punch absolutely, it is not the fault of my hand that the punch was delivered
the hammer cannot change how i use it, it can't say no, it can't change its mind, it can't have preferences
the AI in this case is a hammer, i make it output what i want it to output, this is what makes the output "mine"
5 months ago
Anonymous
>inb4 all my labour is excessive and the minimal amount I do actually do is undervalued
5 months ago
Anonymous
>digital artmoron presses pen on the polarized digitizer and have pixels register on the digital canvas >artmoron didn't create the software, much less do all the calculations to put the pixels on the digital canvas
And you have the gall to call yourself an artist.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Cool omittance of facts, I draw traditionally too, keep coping shitter, learn a skill it doesn't hurt and might improve you as a human being.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>I draw traditionally too,
draw something and post it then. Show us what a giga artist you are.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Here you go, one of my older works.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>tracers over a pic of a horse figurine >traditional art
You are a fucking thief and a moron.
5 months ago
Anonymous
maximum cope, not my fault you can't draw. Put in some effort.
https://i.imgur.com/Hg0A7U3.png
Took me literally 2 seconds.
ok and? looks shit, at least post a good render.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>spent 2 hours crying and composing himself before responding
moron.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Some people enjoy Christmas with their family, you should too, loser.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>moron >family >quality time
5 months ago
Anonymous
You are the dumbest gorilla moron I've ever seen on this site, kys.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Keep seething artlet. No one will commission you for horse dick porn.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Took me literally 2 seconds.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>>I draw for myself >comes the tech board to seethe about ai >scared shitless nobody will pay for his pokemon anal vore anymore
lmao
furry artgays, lmao
5 months ago
Anonymous
>digital pen has buttons >wacom tablets have buttons >retard just called himself a moron
5 months ago
Anonymous
the thought of cattle using ai gives him the creeps
5 months ago
Anonymous
Ai is freeing you from dealing them.
How is this not a good thing?
5 months ago
Anonymous
And we come to the core of the issue. Artists are appalled that the unwashed masses have access to art.
5 months ago
Anonymous
No. They're appalled the masses have access to their art. They posted a few pictures to get your attention, now if you want more you'll pay them, deal with their unstable dramaqueen self and not use some AI to generate SonicShadow porn in their style.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>deal with their unstable dramaqueen self and not use some AI to generate SonicShadow porn in their style.
No! I will generate Rouge the Bat art for free and I will be happy.
I'm the one who always thought that using MTL is unacceptable, as long as it's not done by AGI. Programming is even more sensitive than novels: I'll accept it if AI doesn't touch human-written code fragments (it just uses AI power to understand which snippet to give you), but if it does, it is a recipe for disaster.
What about art? Aside from uncanny valley, it is not really critical. Who cares that hair stand splits 8 times like a tree if you look closely? If anything, defects make it more "artsy".
That's a stupid argument. Photography is absolutely no different than prompting an AI. You just point the camera somewhere and press a button. How is that art?
So... remember demo-scenes? Visuals are often procedurally generated, and considered a form of art. I wonder if utilizing AI is gonna become popular in demo scene
the ai may have drawn the pictures and written the text, but it did not create the comic book
saying the human who made the comic book didn't make the comic book because of their choice of tools is like arguing that a writer didn't write their story, rather their pencil did
so why is it ok to describe a picture to a human to commission them to create it, but it's not ok to describe a picture to a computer to commission it to create it?
there's already lots of tasks i wouldn't be able to do otherwise if it weren't for computers and computer software, why is this different?
like for example, the machines i draw in CAD software, and especially the simulations i run with it, humans used to specialise in these things, meanwhile shit's easy enough nowadays that i could just learn it on my own in my spare time, i do only a fraction of the work old school engineers did, but nobody complains about that, at least not like this, i bet most engineers sighed in relief the amount of time and effort they save by using this software, removing most of the tedium so they can focus on just the creative part of the work, telling the software what they want
So wait a minute. Can a legal anon chime in here. Does this set some sort of precedent that if AI can't hold a copyright for works it created, that it also cannot violate copyright either?
It seems to me the prompter isn't considered the author in this scenario.
Why can't I set up an art store on behalf of AI and just give it prompts to just sell procedurally generated images of Mickey Mouse?
not a lawyer, but if they truly don't hold the human accountable for the AI's output, then it would work the other way around as well, that is, a copyrighted image would be a violation on the AI's part, not any human's
though i don't see how that would make it public domain, you still wouldn't be able to do anything with it as a human, as that would necessarily mean copying or displaying a copyrighted image, regardless of how it was made
If I set up an art exhibit and the art exhibit is a TV that I give direct access to an artist to put whatever he wants without any pre filtering by me, the TV owner, and the artist displays copyrighted material, who is accountable?
If it's the artist, what happens if that artist is just AI then?
if you set something up knowing it will violate copyright, how is that not just violating copyright?
it's one thing to just have something generate completely random pictures and it just happens to make something that could be reasonably construed as a copyrighted image
but it's another to set it up knowing that it will do so
it's like, idk, setting up a lethal trap in your house, totally illegal, not because anything about the trap itself is illegal, but because you set it up knowing that it may kill someone, it's not an accident if you set it up to do exactly what it does, that's what makes you responsible
not the original poster
reposting because it's hilarious
>has INFINITE database of everything beauty and art that humankind has produced
>prompt a mutt
??
of course, that make sense now
countless articles have reported "racist" AIs, but this one is saying
>Oh no, the law just canceled a mutt
>this is bad
>therefore AI good
>checkmate goy
>eat your goyslop
>AI-Created
more like AI-~~*prompted*~~
That woke shit is what sells in the indie comic industry now
>sells
kek
>That woke shit is what sells in the indie comic industry now
False. What sells the most is the Ripaverse, and it's basically comics without politics. They call it far-right and extremist, but the only thing it does is ignore politics and focus on the heroing.
>sells
I take your point but that seems like entirely the wrong word to use.
You have to do the woke shit so the gay mafia in indie comics lets you get big enough there to get into major comics and you have to do the woke shit in major comics to get your shit into the next wave of the movies.
No one actually wants to buy it. They actually force comic book shops to order it!
They literally don't let them order the ones that are likely to sell unless they also order woke shit.
>That woke shit is what sells in the indie comic industry now
no it doesnt, it specifically drops sales. they do it because they get bribed, promoted, intimidated and paid by organizations like blackrock, fbi, etc.
>artist have infinite databases of everything beautiful and best art of all mankind
>Artist can also take mental picture of scenery
>AI CAN'T CAUSE IT REMEMBERS BETTER.
I have more.
I like checking out Common Sense Media to see content in movies and TV. Of course just recently they added a "Diverse Representations" category.
>You have to prompt thinks I like fuck having your own free will and aspirations if I don't like it
Why haven't you killed yourself??
You post like a bot
You post like a retard.
Yup. Boilerplate bot response.
>dark skin bad!
there's literally nothing wrong with being a virgin
Correct. You will also never be a woman (and that's a good thing!)
Just don't tell anyone you used an AI...
in this world AI art will be illegal but behind closed doors at disney pixar is going to be an AGI that is only ever credited with inspiration despite it creating all the heavy lifting
This.
And even if you use AI, you can just claim you're doing img2img work using your own sketches as a base, which would circumvent this as AI is only used as a enhancement of your original art.
>you're doing img2img work using your own sketches as a base
If AI prompting started just like that there would be no problem at all, but it didn't.
>but it didn't
False
>generate AI art
>go over it with some photoshop brushes and filters
why wouldnt this work? a human made it
It would work, because there are "professional" and I use that term loosely, artists that simply use someone else's photo and trace over it, using Photoshop to make it indistinguishable as their own
It would, but the current thing already should. Even if SD does the technical part of the drawing, you still decide matters of composition and structure. There's an argument there that SD pictures are 66.6% human made; I don't know if the people making the law understand this or not.
At least this way we are still paying people to pretend to be artists
Grim, but at least people are being paid
By simply accepting that copyright is an outdated flawed model, and that the future of AI rests upon it being free, public and open source ?
Except there's no UBI so that future would immisersate millions of people.
the freemarket will literally make UBI a reality.
I know it sounds dumb.
But when you play monopoly, you receive 20k when you pass the start. Otherwise, the game wouldn't work.
The free market made slavery.
Free market ended slavery.
Slaves cost more to run then the new machines.
No it didn't, slavery is still a thing and places where it ended had to have regulations or wars
also, the state takes care of the slave when (if) reach old age.
Slavery is still legal in the U.S.
Go read the 13th Amendment carefully.
Slavery is still legal in Africa
Nope, in many cases slaves have been cheaper than machines even to this day. For example the cobalt mines in congo practically use slave labor over costly machines still.
tbh its just a question of accessibility, mineral-rich developed countries like canada and australia use heavy industrial machinery to extract because its usually run by corporations to who will try to make every aspect of the mining process as efficient as possible and they have the money to easily buy such equipment
african mines are either run by poorly run governments or rebel groups, and they cant or wont buy these imported western equipment for several obvious reasons, so they just resort to using human labor
If that is the case then Canada and Australia should be selling Cobalt for much cheaper because of this purported better efficiency from the machines. But Congo still sells cobalt for much cheaper than any other country simply because it pays cents for their slave labor and their easily replaceable. Whereas machines in the developed countries will cost millions of dollars for operations, repair and maintenance.
australia and canada are actually the 3rd and 4th top exporters of cobalt respectively, but the DR congo is the 1st by a very huge margin simply because they have way more cobalt than the rest of the world, that country alone has 50% of the global supply
If using machines was cheaper Congo would use it to earn more revenues, slaves simply are cheaper.
they either cant use it because the companies who make it and sell the machines cant send it there because they refuse to do business in a very unstable and dangerous country, remember that some of these mines are controlled by rebel groups who are actively at war with the current government AND the people who can operate those machines, either foreign or native cant work there because its so dangerous so they stay or move to mines in safer countries
oh btw the price of cobalt is determined by the global commodities market, and not in a per country basis, the real reason cobalt from the congo is still getting sold is as mentioned, they just have so much of it, the countries or companies who need it arent just gonna lock themselves out of half the cobalt reserves because of moral reasons
t. obedient employee who loves their „corporate family“ and the new pool table in the office
Hey, what's wrong with having a new pool table in the office?
marx enslaved more people than the free market ever did. you will dig the ditch, and you will starve digging it, comrade.
Free market is bigger and "free Market" enslaved more due to it being bigger and encompassing the world.
Kinda would.
Not quite sure if it's a girl though.
Slavery has existed since humans have
You only have to look at inflation in Australia during covid when they gave a bunch of welfare to most people to see how bad that is for inflation and supply.
The only world it would succeed in is one where everyone was self sufficient.
And we live in the complete inverse of that right now.
>You only have to look at inflation in Australia during covid
Go look at the supply of money. The printing by the BCE.
Inflation isn't caused by how you distribute money, it is caused by the supply of money.
Actually the classical definition of inflation is an increase in money supply.
Your example makes no sense. UBI is not the same as an impromptu stimulus in an emergency state. It's tantamount to arguing we shouldn't have rowboats because some guy hit by a flash flide tried to wade on a log with a broom and it didn't work out.
you don't need UBI, you need jubilee years
Surely even if the images in the comic alone aren't copyrightable, the added text would make it eligible for copyright the same as if you used public domain images in a book?
Or was the text AI generated as well?
This is what I was thinking too. Even if the text is AI generated you'd think that combining copyright free generated images with copyright free generated text counts as transformative.
taking individually uncopyrightable parts to make something copyrightable is literally how all art ever has been made
your canvas, paint, and brushes aren't copyrightable, but the painting you made with them is
Just lie and make money saying you made it. It's what I do with code and copywriting. It's based.
>AI ARTISTS
contradictio in adjecto
Good, people hate AI artists because it steals from artists. I hate AI artists because an abominable intelligence will never have the capacity to match a human artist and is a mockery to the human spirit in art.
>posts an adeptus mechanicus
>human spirit
>abominable intelligence
This is a satire post, right?
You are but shit in the eyes of the Omnissiah
automate ai to fill out prompts and flood the market with so many comics that the copyright doesn't matter
pretty ez recovery
Entertainment media producers like Disney are already in full swing lobbying to regulate AI media creation.
It's going to end up where only large corporations can use AI media creation tools and have the IP protected, while any individual using AI tools can't copyright their work at all.
What does it matter? Nobody can disprove you didn't draw the image. It's not like you're submitting an art portfolio for traditional art.
Seriously, all digital art is the same to me. You're utilizing technology to boost your mediocre skills. Whereas REAL traditional artists (not modern art or abstract art of any money laundering scheme), can never be replaced. They know how to take a tool and turn it into something great. Sculptors, chiselers, architects, painters....anybody who uses technology to produce art is the same, AI and digital artists. All the same.
AI is going to be a game changer in animation, if it can successfully generate all the in-between frames for 2d and 3d animation you'd need half the artists and never need to touch Korean in-betweeners
Just don't copyright it. Let it be free. That will just annoy the old artists even more.
This, bringing freegay mentality to the art world is a surefire way to create extreme seethe.
>they
>but then uses she to refer to the same person in the same sentence
Just wait for the boomers to finally croak. A lot of retarded, ass backwards policy making you see is from boomers too stupid to know better or are boomers warping the system for their own benefits/ideological enfrocement.
So are photoshops not copyrightable now?
It was inevitable
>Be Disney or any other entertainment giant
>Realize some random startup, Pajeet or Chink can just train an AI model on your property and start cranking out copycat products by the dozens on a yearly basis
>Pay politicians to revoke copyrights from AI created works
>At the same time have your engineers program an in house AI to speed up your work process while requiring less workforce.
We're going to see an era of extreme product protectionism while everyone develops a competing AI in house.
Disney golemware should not be supported than. Than again the GPUs lop endlessly flowed and many people seem to slurp it up no matter how low quality.
just get a mole on the inside to leak the fact that they use in house AI and then poof "fruit of the poisoned tree" everyone gets to use the big companies IP
You won't even need a mole, once they start firing artists that get replaced by AI then they will rant about it everywhere
The company would just lobby to make AI art copywritable.
good, intellectual property is not real property
That's not what this ruling says you dimwit, it says only human made art is copyrightable.
Intellectual property and copyright are completely different things retards. Educate yourselves. Without intellectual property there would be no incentive to invent anything new.
except walt disney died so how could a dead man possibly get an incentive to invent new things
>bro mathematicians are all commies they keep researching math even though they can't file a patent on any of their findings bro I'm telling you bro why would people discover stuff without IP bro we must boost maths by making formulas copyrighteable
ideas are not real property
words on paper are not real property
specific arrangements of 1s and 0s are not real property
specific arrangements of molecules... wait a sec
Sure, at least until some megacorp garden gnomes decide to start using it and copyrighting it.
Who cares? Either this decision will be reversed eventually when big companies start using AI or the concept of copyright as we know it today will simply die.
Either outcome is fine in my view.
it's not "over for AI artists", this is a good decision. imagine if people could copyright prompts. that's fucking insane. copyright is a cancer
Aren't this is because she's a dumbass and credited the AI instead of saying "made with AI"?
They won't, prompting is automated next. It was never about having anyone be allowed to live any lifestyle not shit work. They focus their work on stealing your hobbies so you slave in the coal mines. They can make robots there and were able to for decades but would rather work you to death instead.
They'll never be able to automate something as deeply human as prompting, it requires too much soul and creativity.
https://reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/zsze3l/a_real_lawyer_filed_an_official_argument/
GAME CHANGER
GAME CHANGER
GAME CHANGER
Well put argument.
Wait, shouldn't the AI who made it have the copyright? Monkey can hold a copyright why can't AI?
>design new prototype using computer models
>"Yes, I think this is fine for a copyright"
>make comic using AI art
>"WHAT? DENIED!"
Edit the picture output by the AI, now you can copyright it. Either way, I'm sure this is just FUD by the seething and coping "artists."
Based. Fuck copyright.
>AI's have less rights than humans
AI's = the new morons
So I lie and say I made it.
What now? You don't have a court of law and a judge deciding whether or not it was really made by me. The entire point of things like stable diffusion is to reach the level where it is indistinguishable from something a human produced, by design you won't be able to prove I didn't make it.
>So I lie and say I made it.
wouldn't cause the same meltdown from the archuds tho
No, what you do is you abduct the suing party's child, send them a finger in a post and say "I'll send another part of her every week until you drop this case".
Or you brainfuck that party with drugs, etc.
That's what the CIA does :^)
post AI hands
In parallel, that is why BOT has always written: Post feet
We are prescient. No AI will fool us, ah hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
lots of models can make good hands now.
AI Art people are douchebag people
They're the smug pharaoh man huffing the farts as they smugly talk about their funny looking AI pics with oversized tiddies.
>Make AI generate comic in Esperanto
>Translate the comic
>You have copyright to translation
>Sell translated comic
>???
>PROFIT
>make AI comic
>just fucking lie
>???
>PROFIT
Who cares, just keep prompting.
I mean, AI creations were not copyrightable simply because they were not created by a human being so... Everything is as it should be?
Copyleft bros, we won!
The concept of copyright was fraud and theft from the very beginning, so this is a step in the right direction.
good, writing few words and pressing a button is not being an artist
AI isn't art, but this is art!
Wow very cool, bad faith example. I bet you pat yourself on the back for that one.
>:'(
It's not copyrightable, but it *is* NFT'able.
I am waiting for someone to just automate the process of minting NFT's and selling them using AI. Practically can flood that market to death.
arent NFTs procedually generated anyway?, theres a reason people regarded them as ugly and uncanny as shit art
I meant the complete process starting from making art. Digital artists would first create some kind of low effort digital art then make slight edits as different variants. They would then mint those as NFTs. With AI, you can create "unique" NFTs and just shit them out
fair enough, then again the type of NFTs that the humans shit out is already AI tier
I don't think anyone here is using AI to make some money.
We are just doing it for fun and also (like myself) to not pay for artgay commissions.
This was already posted and we already arrived at the conclusion that this decision will be reversed.
Seems like an easy case if you take it to court. Even if you didn't paint the images, you wrote text, a story, you set up the paneling, you all the non-image artistic decisions, and it would be easy to make an argument that prompting involves creative decisionmaking.
Create more free art so artists seethe more as their profession's demand drops.
i mean have you seen how shit that comic is, real artist will be fine. AI prompt collaging is fine for art larpers to create cgi pics of their waifu with massive tits and that's fine. It's a fun toy for people with no artistic talent to play with and that's all it will ever be. In a year no one will even care.
I can affirm you my drawing art is, at least, a league above yours. And yet I'm having a blast using AI. It accelerates my workflow and consequently makes me more money.
Your brat tears can't stop the future.
>art larp
Post a link to your work talented anon.
>doxxing myself so a pseudo artist can get even more butthurt
lol, lmao even
kek just post a pic of one of your trad masterpieces with a timestamp anon. What? No I thought so.
The undeniable fact is:
If you are afraid of AI (or think it is unethical), you are a fucking retard with low skills.
AI is good for humanity, períod.
And that is the only thing that matters.
I didn't give a fuck when truck drivers protested about new train lines being built. Train lines are much more efficient for the whole country. And I don't give a fuck about what you think right now. Your income is not important in the grand scheme of things.
Adapt or die.
Also, most of you doesn't even know how Photoshop works under the hood (or any other software), but AFFIRM that AI is stealing pictures, because you KNOW, lmao.
An Arduino with OpenCV would blow your brainlet mind.
Not gonna lie, at least all this crying is fucking hilarious.
AI isn't going anywhere. You must be pretty retard to even consider that.
Get gud, morones.
The future waits for no one.
>is AI good for humanity
always do opposite of what ~~*he*~~ says. If the tribe and Soros and all the others are joyfully awaiting AI there is a 0.00% chance that AI is "good for humanity"
>AI is good for humanity, períod.
Debatable, we have to wait to see the effects, technology always has trade offs, some which only become apparent several generations later. This technology is like the car, you could argue the car was also good for humanity by allowing people to travel further faster but we also got death traps that kill almost as many people yearly as guns, pollution and ugly cities. Not saying we should ban it, but let's not open every genie bottle with reckless abandonment, there's a reason some bottles are better off left closed.
You know this type of machine learning isn't even AI right? its almost a step backwards from actual AI
good
copycucks must suffer
so is everyone just willfully ignoring that AI will learn over time? okay its ineligible and gibberish now. but what about next year? 2028?
Let's be honest here: artists have become too fat and too complacent. $200 commissions for pics without shading, taking 6-9 months to complete commission, and making zero interactions with customer (I completed the commission, take it or leave it, if you want changes make another commission that I'll complete in another half-year) have become the norm. Writers are finally getting sick of delaying story publications because some shit taken their money and refuse to deliver in a timely manner. AI generation is perfect for story covers, is free, can iterate on it infinitely, etc.
SD is based.
>ethical
Fuck off, it's a buzzword
>mining data
DALL-E 2 uses even more copyrighted works than SD. And yet they have PR team that deflects everything perfectly. You didn't even notice that they brainwashed you into attacking SD only, did you?..
Also re-read Google ToS. They can feed your private photos (and art, if you uploaded it to GDrive) to all kinds of AI, because you legally agreed to it.
>"""Open"""AI makes image gen
>radio silence
>Open source model released
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!
>Google makes their own image gen
>radio silence again
>Fucking {{{Tencent}}} makes image gen app
>more radio silence
Really makes you think...
Yeah. If big corporations want, they can do it!
But normal common people?
>WTF NOOOOO STOP STEALING MY ART
Pathetic.
They're REE'ing against Midjourney as well, but you're still right.
From all the rage, it's weird seeing OpenAI and other corporate generators not be targeted as hard as SD.
Almost like some astroturfing is in play.
No such thing. Our society understand the values of AI but more importantly realizes the dangers of allowing such a powerful tool to fall into the wrong hands and end up misused to harm innocent people. Companies such as OpenAI and Google have proven their social value and will to better our world and as such there is no reason to prevent them from utilizing this new and promising technology. Our attention must be focused on preventing the spread of this technology because if we do not we will end up with a problem even bigger than guns.
DALL-E is trained to not generate copyrighted entities like a nintendo switch. Probably something simple like retuning some knobs after the 1st gen until it doesn't look like [protected property]
What about books using spell checkers?
Isn't that potentially copyright infringement of dictionaries?
My art is trolling people so bad that it blows up the planet.
Now that is art.
Fucking with the hivemind so bad that people lose their minds is art.
Fake and gay.
>Still seething beyond lunacy
Yikes and cringepilled
Yeah, there has been a precedent since the whole shebang about animals or specifically monkeys taking pictures and humans who own the equipment and engineered the situation to get a picture trying to copyright them. I think a court will need to step in to decide how to go about this and the Supreme Court in the US will need to be involved.
>there has been a precedent
Why do people care about precedent?
Just start a black market. These morons don't play by the rules to begin with, why should you?
Give em hell.
toasters have no rights
They, he, her? What the fuck? Is this some excuse to let journos become even dumber by making endless writing errors and handwaving it as diversity?
>how will we ever recover from this?
Claim you painted your shit.
According to this ruling pretty much everything that was enhanced by AI or went through automation processes must be copyright free now, a human typed the proompts for this comic, this must be enough or everything that was made using technology is copyright free, the judge made a big mistake there
>judge
There was no judge. It's just what the copyright office said according to their rules. Learn to read.
Its some salty retard in the office abusing his power. Nothing more. They probably already have hundreds of AI works with copyrights.
so just lie about it.
>meanwhile Thomas Edison and Nikola Tesla
>meanwhile the guy who invented Windshield Wipers
Not listening to people who benefit the most from AI
>make art using AI
>say you made it yourself
lmao why not just lie?
Its not a lie, he did make it himself. He used a computer program to create art just like every other digital artist. People will just call it digital art until the patent retards stop being retarded.
You are free to open Krita (free program) right now and show me how you draw.
After all it's digital so it's exaclty the same as clicking a button for AI to make it for you.
Waiting for your quality art.
So you drew that dragon? Or you stole it? Youre clearly a stupid person.
You are a disingenous piece of shit you know that.
It's a meme retard I didn't draw it and never claimed so
Youre the one who is a piece of shit liar. You dont even know what your talking about, cry, and then demand someone draw something to "prove" they are an artist. Youre a literal brain dead lying shit cunt.
Here you go moron, I drew this.
Waiting for you now, cumslurper.
You just do not get it, do you? You are incapable of understanding what is happening, and that is making you mad. So you challenge random strangers to a literal medieval style duel to assert dominance. Youre just wrong and an idiot.
You will never be an artist, you are liek a pajeet pressing a button.
Yet pressing that button will allow him to make better art than 90% of people on Artstation, and more importantly, art that reflects what he wants to see
This is why 'artists' are seething, they are now obsolete, and good riddance, 80% of the art on Artstation is interchangeable, same subjects (oh, a new show is out on Netflix, I will do a paint-over of the girl boss), same artstyle.
Only ones who will still stay employed are those who will embrace AI and thus massively increase their productivity and quality, an artist making use of AI to make professional art will have a gigantic advantage over a non-artist.
I'm not talking about employment, schizo.
I don't care about the quality either.
I care about aimorons thinking they are hot shit when they press a button that steals from someone else.
Also you just proved how petty and spiteful you gays are.
All the worst to you.
ngl I thought picrel was cumtribute baka ymmv
One isolated image I would understand, even if managing the prompt, models, negatives, sampling and parameters is not trivial.
Editing the image with img2img and inpainting is harder to justify.
A whole comic with a complete narrative and AI generated images consistent with it to illustrate things should be obvious. Is it was a text only book there would be no discussion. Adding things to it makes it less original?
That being said, the less copyright the better. It has hindered innovations for too long and became clearly abusive recently after being extended to lifetimes and all the derivative nonsense.
Everyone already accepted that AI art wouldn't be copyrightable.
Everyone who?
All 8 remaining trannies in his Discord council of chuds. There used to be 12 but it's hard to keep the council at max capacity
>4 judas
There is always two, a master and an apprentice. 10 other chud might also be there, screeching and hurling shit, but only the most dilated of chuds sit on the throon of power
Just wait a few decades. When big media finds a way to make money, they might even copyright the prompts
I can already tell where this is going. Disney will lobby to make art styles copyrightable, and once that's done, they will start using AI and lobby to make AI content copyrightable but only if it's made by a big corporation using their own copyrighted art styles.
Recover from what? That's a good thing. Why would you want to copyright AI generated art? I thought the whole point of AI art is to help bolster creativity by rapidly prototyping countless works.
If it was eligible for copyright, what's to stop copyright trolls to just have a bitcoin mining style rig churning out terabytes of copyrighted work to the point nothing new can be made because it's too similar to some copyright database?
just lie bro
like literally don't say it was ai generated bro
like just say you made it bro
how the fuck is copyright real ahahahahahaha
I wonder if you can tell by the pixels, like with a shoop
the boomers in the courts are braindead
Only big corporations will be able to use AI in near future because everyone else will die in legal battles. You will eat ze bugs, you will live in ze pod and fuck you, YOU will be also unhappy (and unable to do anything about that).
What about the characters? The writing? Composition? Thats not copywritable? He created these images, just with words and a computer program instead of paint. How is that different than any other piece of digital art? What a stupid fucking decision that will obviously be reversed.
What are the best arguments for AI art?
And the best against it?
>What are the best arguments for hammers?
>And the best against hammers?
The only argument that matters is how are you going to stop it? Ban GPUs?
AI is impossible to contain.
Ban open source models like SD. If that happened, SD 2.1 is where it stops. You will never have an updated model. And a year from now that model will be shit compared to what ai can do. You won't be able to make animations or access any of the future developments. People won't just keep building on top of SD 2 forever. It's like when Steam de-lists a game, the community dries up and people stop making mods, etc. and say it's a dead game. True, the people that already downloaded it still have it. But this is despite that
>the community can make their own
SD cost 600k to train. The sad thing is paintpigs would cheer and celebrate the victory if this happened.
"Learn to Code"
AI is also quickly learning to code. You just tell it what kind of code you need. Right now it can only do simple stuff but it works. It a year or 2 coders will be out of work. Anyone will be able to tell an AI what kind of code work they need in plain english.
>prompt engineer
kek. I fucking hate women so much.
kinda weird that BOT is so pro automation when programming is probably going to be the first in the long list of replaceable white-collar jobs in the future, is it just because artgays are more left-leaning?
>t. salty artgay
i cant even draw lmao
Just like when screw drivers and hammers replaced everyone who builds stuff?
Artists cried when photoshop came out too.
those are merely tools for the people in those field to use, a better analogy is someone inventing construction bots, they will do nothing but build stuff and they dont need stupid shit like a paycheck and not being able to strike (for now), and then the people who do construction will be put out of work
Youre retarded. You literally just gave a supporting example. A builder bot is literally a toll that multiplies and individuals production. Its literally no different that a hammer, or a back hoe, or a crane.
im talking about a robot/or group of robots that would do EVERYTHING in construction without any human involvement and entirely replace construction workers
Youre not getting it. Robots dont just randomly do things, someone told it to do something. It could be one person who told it to build a house, this means you only need one person to build an entire house, you just multiplied his production.
do AI engines and models steal art?
can I get a genuine answer and proof
A human learns to draw from the media and resources around them. No matter how unique of an artist you think you are, the exact combination of how you draw is a result of how you learned to draw.
Diffusion models don't "steal" art, they just steal the ability to create it. They take an image, are told what the image is, then are given white noise with the description of the image and are told to draw it. It practices this for millions of images billions of times to abstract words into an image.
The issue of copyright arises when you tell this AI to draw an image in the style of another artist. It can learn to replicate the compositional styles of another artist and draw original art in a imitation of their unique combination of skill.
but how is that an issue in the first place? not even artists themselves think creating art in the same style is theft
Because in their mind, another human isn't making it, a human is just training it and prompting it and then editing the imperfections of the image through multiple permutations and manual editing.
So, you know, not art I guess.
so artists fall back to "AI art is not art by definition" argument then, supposedly because there is no human expression or whatever
The point is if you make an art yourself then it's a display of your skill, knowledge and effort.
If AI makes it it's just a pretty picture, nothing else.
good
so the point is artists don't want AI generated pictures that are appealing or pretty labelled as art yes?
No, artists don't want button pushers to pretend they made something when it's the machine that did it.
If a robot of Mike Tyson won world championship it would be the bot winning, not you.
Do you see the mentality now? People like
ascribe no human authorship to the images, regardless of how much human involvement went into it's creation.
You showed no skill, no mastery in the craft, you pressed a button. That's it. You can stay delusional for all I care.
if there is no human autorship then how does one argue that it is copying or plagiarising humans? if we assume the AI copied an artist's images, then there needs to be some degree of human autorship there considering it is based on the art created by the artist
the pro-AI people have been mocking artists have been taking their art to feed the AI so yes probably
"proof"
>steal
Artcels literally published their works freely. I'm talking about the digital illustrators whose rely on publishing their artworks on social media for publicity. If you're that protective over your works, then at least put an effort on it.
The goal was to build a following with their first few art pieces then paywall near everything else. They're mad they can't be Disney on a smaller scale.
My new waifu. I will protect SD from the trannies with my life. I start training now.
>what you ask the model to draw does NOT train the model nor affects it. The model was trained before it was released to the public, not while it used.
That is the case now. However isnt it likely that it will eventually try to learn from user inputs. That would be the fastest way for it to learn
keep AI underground and anonymous until it is ready to take over the entire dream
brahman lol
Every day artists prove why they are fucking losers and idiots. They deserve their suffering because they are the cause of it.
how would programmers/developers react when someone finally makes AI that can write code just as good or even better than them?
they would be happy, for that is what they have been wanting for a long time now
many homeless and eternal seethe
Good, then I can work on more important things. You clearly are a clueless retard.
>work on more important things
why even bother when you cant maintain the roof over your head?, are you going to live on welfare for the rest of your life?
You clearly dont know what a software engineer does.
>software engineer
guaranteed to be replaced by AI lmao
>t retard who doesnt know anything about software engineering
AI is like the philosopher stone of software you stupid cow.
Clearly in the future the PO will be proompting all day for the perfectly generated software
>a person who applies the principles of software engineering to design, develop, maintain, test, and evaluate computer software.
you do know this can be done by AI once its advanced enough right
Youre not very smart but I guess that why youre an artist.
you're going be unemployed in the future and you will cry about it
Nope. Even your fantasies are stupid and pathetic.
if AI can do something as subjective as art then it can do your job easy
cope
Not him but art has turned out to be easier for AI than other tasks. However that guy is in complete denial if he thinks dev jobs are not going to go extinct soon by AI
Currently available AI is able to shit out coding solutions in minutes which could otherwise take hours or even days. There will be tons of developers who will find it hard to justify being paid those high salaries for doing next to nothing most days. Especially when companies will be able to manage accomplishing those tasks with fraction of the dev team with help of AI.
Even if all dev jobs dont become obsolete which it most likely will. At the very least most dev jobs will become obsolete. Devs are going to be horse carriage drivers of this generation.
It's inevitable, and programmer with a brain is already planning their exit strategy.
In 7-10 years, being a programmer will be a niche profession.
>In 7-10 years, being a programmer will be a niche profession.
They were already saying that in the 80s.
It’s already the case.
Only a select few Sys Admin chads will prosper.
Did they have AI this advanced in the 80s? Everyone will have to cope, front and backend webshitters first and foremost. Lower-level and high-level codebases are included. They will stop hiring entry-level webshitters, then the "old-guard" will slowly be replaced by new infrastructure. And when quantum becomes a reality (very soon), AI will become a force multiplier.
Imagine training AI on a codebase for 1000 years.
Lot of devs have already recognized that it is inevitable and it is gonna happen within this decade. Some devs are in denial and think since the current version isnt good enough that it will not get better than what they can do in their ifetime. However I have not seen any devs seething and/or planning on AI boycotts
yet
this. Artgays weren't making much on average anyway. When webshitters shit the bed, they will jump from buildings.
>yet
Devs will see no point in boycotting it. What can they even argue? Don't use advance ways of creating software that can save you money?
Hopefully they'll kill themselves on mass.
The Moderna vaccine was made using AI.
The company was granted a patent for the vaccine.
But now one cannot gain copyright protection for AI art?
This is schizophrenic and a terrible idea.
But then again we are in the age of terrible ideas.
>The Moderna vaccine was made using AI.
thats not real right?, do they just lay off the people who do make vaccines?, is something as technical and specific as inventing new vaccines an AI thing now?
>thats not real right?, do they just lay off the people who do make vaccines?, is something as technical and specific as inventing new vaccines an AI thing now
The prompting goes something like this: Give me a list of molecules which will bind to this receptor with the following characteristics: ...
For the scoop search: Morderna vaccine AI
Search: Powerful antibiotics discovered using AI - Nature
I can't post the link because BOT thinks its spam.
AND AI was used to generate CHEMICAL WEAPONS. Because hey why not.
Article name: Repurposed drug-seeking AI system generates 40,000 possible chemical weapons in just six hours
I can't post the link because BOT thinks its spam.
oh shit, software engineer anon aint safe if this can be pulled off
What I think it means is this: A single programmer will be able to take on a much larger project on their own. When I write larger I mean an order of magnitude larger.
For myself I look forward to a time where I can code a MMORPG with AI generated content which fleshes out the world.
You're still fucked in some ways, as the AI can't generate some income for your electric bill, or the servers you need to run that MMORPG. Or the players.
Startups always have capital requirements.
When you can show investors a world that is 99% functional you're going to have a better time attracting capital.
My point is this: I thought that AI was the death of creativity, but the more I think about it the more opportunities seem to arise.
Anyway gotta go. Talk later.
>any gay can make fully featured MMOrpg now
>implying you would get funding
holy COPE
>>any gay can make fully featured MMOrpg now
you would get funding
POWER TO THE GAMER!
Only good thing about it. I would just make a fully featured GOR MMO for just me and my AI rapeslaves as players. Fuck the rest of you poor morons.
Triple A indie games. Or would that be Quadruple A indie games? Just image a fanmade Sonic game with AI level of polish to it.
No a bad idea, you could flesh out a Magic The Gathering style AI card generation framework where you simply plug in prompts and it produces a card game with pictures and blurb written on each card, with everything balanced from competitive play based off other card game concepts.
>do they just lay off the people who do make vaccines?
Not yet because its still nascent in medical fields and also there would be lot more safety concerns to not have any human involvement for a while. But it sure looks like they would hire less people from the bio field and more from the tech field.
>is something as technical and specific as inventing new vaccines an AI thing now?
It easily can be if AI is going to give the best vaccines. The MRNA vaccines for coronavirus create by AI has higher efficacy rate than the ones created by legacy techniques. So moving forward AI definitely will be more involved in Bio fields.
Since human biology and the field of medicine is so complex they would put a lot of human supervision but if enough safety protocols are put in place AI would probably do a better job than humans that can make easy mistakes
By saturating the market with free comics. Why would I even bother copyrighting it?
>artist whine to get what they want
>get what they want because of whining
Can any of the actual artgays itt tell me why I should respect a single one of you?
Because we have a skill we worked hard for, lazy morons don't get respect.
>move a digital pen over a $5k tablet
>worked hard
No. You're just a whiny grifter.
I draw both digitally and traditionally, the only difference is the QoL that I do not have to watch the wear of the paper and lug a bunch of supplier.
Don't say anyting if you don't know art, moron.
digigays are soulless
so happy ai will kill you all
>swallowed bait
are all "artists" so dumb? What's your EQ?
Artists are busy believing the most retarded misinfo and propaganda on twitter and getting swindled into throwing money at random gofundmes so yeah they're pretty dumb
Do I look like I care? AI gives free art to the masses. That is enough reason for me to support it. No longer will we have to wait months or ever years for a delivery on commissions, that is if the artist doesn't take the money, run and return some time later to do it all over again. I don't care for your struggles. "OH I had to carry a tablet with me all day, oh woe is me" Fuck you, moron.
Masses are a bunch of cattle without taste, just like you, coomer.
>wastes his life drawing filth for cattle
>thinks he's better
I draw for myself
I guess, still leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
It's like watching homeless fuck.
Good for you.
>I draw for myself
So what's the problem with AI then?
morons pretending they have a skill where they simply press a button.
writers often just press buttons, too, so do programmers
you know what your problem is? us vs. them mentality, you don't see artists using ai as artists, you see them as outsiders who are threatening you, you're scared of them
>writers often just press buttons, too, so do programmers
that's fake equivalence and you know it.
It's doing something vs having it done for you.
You have grade school arguments.
it's a matter of defining how much work a tool can do before it's no longer considered a human product
when i hammer a nail, i drove the nail, not the hammer, the nail is only there because i willed it, the hammer had no say in the matter, we do not blame the hammer when it hits a finger
bro idk what you smokin but i want in, that was the least coherent thoughtramble i've strolled down for a while. You should go and determine the value of your excess labour like a legit commie chud
mate if you can't understand what i'm saying, then maybe it is you who can only handle grade school arguments
I think you're trying to say is the nail and yourself had a conversation, which the hammer was not privy to, about where it would be nailed in. The nail bowed to your willpower, but the hammer had no say in the matter, for it was not driven like the nail, so if it hits your thumb, your thumb is to blame.
i'm saying the hammer is a tool, when i use it, it becomes an extension of my will, just like if i were to punch something, i punched it, not just my hand, even though it was only my hand which made contact and delivered the punch absolutely, it is not the fault of my hand that the punch was delivered
the hammer cannot change how i use it, it can't say no, it can't change its mind, it can't have preferences
the AI in this case is a hammer, i make it output what i want it to output, this is what makes the output "mine"
>inb4 all my labour is excessive and the minimal amount I do actually do is undervalued
>digital artmoron presses pen on the polarized digitizer and have pixels register on the digital canvas
>artmoron didn't create the software, much less do all the calculations to put the pixels on the digital canvas
And you have the gall to call yourself an artist.
Cool omittance of facts, I draw traditionally too, keep coping shitter, learn a skill it doesn't hurt and might improve you as a human being.
>I draw traditionally too,
draw something and post it then. Show us what a giga artist you are.
Here you go, one of my older works.
>tracers over a pic of a horse figurine
>traditional art
You are a fucking thief and a moron.
maximum cope, not my fault you can't draw. Put in some effort.
ok and? looks shit, at least post a good render.
>spent 2 hours crying and composing himself before responding
moron.
Some people enjoy Christmas with their family, you should too, loser.
>moron
>family
>quality time
You are the dumbest gorilla moron I've ever seen on this site, kys.
Keep seething artlet. No one will commission you for horse dick porn.
Took me literally 2 seconds.
>>I draw for myself
>comes the tech board to seethe about ai
>scared shitless nobody will pay for his pokemon anal vore anymore
lmao
furry artgays, lmao
>digital pen has buttons
>wacom tablets have buttons
>retard just called himself a moron
the thought of cattle using ai gives him the creeps
Ai is freeing you from dealing them.
How is this not a good thing?
And we come to the core of the issue. Artists are appalled that the unwashed masses have access to art.
No. They're appalled the masses have access to their art. They posted a few pictures to get your attention, now if you want more you'll pay them, deal with their unstable dramaqueen self and not use some AI to generate SonicShadow porn in their style.
>deal with their unstable dramaqueen self and not use some AI to generate SonicShadow porn in their style.
No! I will generate Rouge the Bat art for free and I will be happy.
having a skill is not a guarantee of income, or respect
why dont we use ai to automate industrial and office jobs and instead destroy all of the creative fields? Have you ever questioned this?
Every job in tech is an office job btw. This is a good thing.
Its going to destroy jobs from most if not all fields
Good, the rat race must end.
>Implying people will not just make up new jobs that AI will not be allowed to do.
>mandatory daycare for adults
Great, fuck copyright.
Everything should be free and open source.
I'm the one who always thought that using MTL is unacceptable, as long as it's not done by AGI. Programming is even more sensitive than novels: I'll accept it if AI doesn't touch human-written code fragments (it just uses AI power to understand which snippet to give you), but if it does, it is a recipe for disaster.
What about art? Aside from uncanny valley, it is not really critical. Who cares that hair stand splits 8 times like a tree if you look closely? If anything, defects make it more "artsy".
Explain to me how camera photography is human work but AI prompting isn't.
Photography is old
That's a stupid argument. Photography is absolutely no different than prompting an AI. You just point the camera somewhere and press a button. How is that art?
Camera photography is a fraud art. Photographers have been manipulating pics to win awards for decades
it isn't, nobody likes photogays, they suck as well.
So... remember demo-scenes? Visuals are often procedurally generated, and considered a form of art. I wonder if utilizing AI is gonna become popular in demo scene
Are video games art?
No, they're entertainment. The primary purpose is to entertain.
no
they are games, an activity
no
As much as movies are
toys aren't art
Anything can be art, human made or AI made
no, as last weeks have shown, only artists with special skills and talents can make art
>The janny cleaned it up
XD
dont care get rekt i just wanna coom to AI images
>kris kashtanova announced that THEY
>copyright on HIS comic book
>get the copyright so that SHE could
was this article made by an AI?
Meanwhile they still struggle to enforce copywritten samples in music. I don't see this affecting much.
the ai may have drawn the pictures and written the text, but it did not create the comic book
saying the human who made the comic book didn't make the comic book because of their choice of tools is like arguing that a writer didn't write their story, rather their pencil did
When will AI make interesting music and movies?
When models which can do them are released.
Literally your random anon on BOT could make better movies than 90% of what is released by the studios these days.
Is martial art art?
so why is it ok to describe a picture to a human to commission them to create it, but it's not ok to describe a picture to a computer to commission it to create it?
there's already lots of tasks i wouldn't be able to do otherwise if it weren't for computers and computer software, why is this different?
like for example, the machines i draw in CAD software, and especially the simulations i run with it, humans used to specialise in these things, meanwhile shit's easy enough nowadays that i could just learn it on my own in my spare time, i do only a fraction of the work old school engineers did, but nobody complains about that, at least not like this, i bet most engineers sighed in relief the amount of time and effort they save by using this software, removing most of the tedium so they can focus on just the creative part of the work, telling the software what they want
(and yes, i did just call proompting the creative part of making a picture, fight me)
So wait a minute. Can a legal anon chime in here. Does this set some sort of precedent that if AI can't hold a copyright for works it created, that it also cannot violate copyright either?
It seems to me the prompter isn't considered the author in this scenario.
Why can't I set up an art store on behalf of AI and just give it prompts to just sell procedurally generated images of Mickey Mouse?
not a lawyer, but if they truly don't hold the human accountable for the AI's output, then it would work the other way around as well, that is, a copyrighted image would be a violation on the AI's part, not any human's
though i don't see how that would make it public domain, you still wouldn't be able to do anything with it as a human, as that would necessarily mean copying or displaying a copyrighted image, regardless of how it was made
If I set up an art exhibit and the art exhibit is a TV that I give direct access to an artist to put whatever he wants without any pre filtering by me, the TV owner, and the artist displays copyrighted material, who is accountable?
If it's the artist, what happens if that artist is just AI then?
if you set something up knowing it will violate copyright, how is that not just violating copyright?
it's one thing to just have something generate completely random pictures and it just happens to make something that could be reasonably construed as a copyrighted image
but it's another to set it up knowing that it will do so
it's like, idk, setting up a lethal trap in your house, totally illegal, not because anything about the trap itself is illegal, but because you set it up knowing that it may kill someone, it's not an accident if you set it up to do exactly what it does, that's what makes you responsible
Fuck copyright. Everything is mine.
remember
>photography is art even though you just press a button
it's not, photomorons are just as bad
>Still not a single valid point or evidence of the AI training shown to plagiarise and infringe on copyright.
So what's the discussion then?
>Correct. You will also never be a woman (and that's a good thing!)
Next step is to create real sentient AI then create a comic out of its own free will then presto, copyright.
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