Is it worth going to college for cyber security or will it be replaced by AI like most code monkey jobs?
>Asuka
I see you are a man of culture so I will answer you. Unless you're a non-white you will, even if you are completely moronic by white standards, and I'm talking bottom of the barrel here, you will still be more competent than a non-white. Also this
Doing things like HackTheBox and Offensive Security certificates is more valuable than getting a Cyber Sec degree.
AI is already big in cyber security for Blue side stuff.
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anything not highlighted yellow in this list won't be 100% replaced by AI, but the amount of people hired in these roles will decrease by half I imagine.
Of course AI will replace the highlighted ones too, but a couple years later.
okay ignore the :highlited yellow part" that was dumb, but all IT desk positions of watching for alerts and doing network scans for vulnerabilities will be replaced 100%
>or will it be replaced by AI like most code monkey jobs?
The AI tools that get used in cyber security are intrusion detection systems. They have enough false positives that using them as a fully automated solution is currently non-viable.
Consider the hypothetical in which your delusion about AI replacing all code monkey jobs by the time you graduate is true. In that case there are basically no jobs that are worth going to college for. What will you spend your time on then? Jerking off all day as a NEET? What will your future AGI catgirl gf think of you?
Not sure if this applies to cyber security but for programming it depend on college because most (if not all) colleges are fricking garbage and will put you into obsolete course.
My college is garbage and they put me to learned ARMv7 Assembly and Prolog but I've seen way worse (some still teaching PHP).
to produce computer scientists.
they job is to teach you computational theory. it's purely your own responsibility to find how to apply the taught knowledge in the real life. and yes, you do it in your free time.
now, here's the better question: why do morons pick computer science when they don't plan to become computer scientists?
>Is it worth going to college for cyber security
I'm in one. The bachelor's curriculum is almost on par with a standard Informatics/CS degree so if you want you can switch for the master's where the good shit with AI starts.
I would say that if you want a structured curriculum (everything from math to arduino) and some point of reference and generally being in an environment where people actually care it's worth it BUT ONLY IF YOU DON'T GET DEBT. Also most unis have a career center where you can send your CV and they will try to find you something.
Otherwise I assure you that there's nothing you can't learn by yourself, besides in most normal state unis you can attend lectures for free and you can just download the required text books from listed on the website of each individual course, the material is maybe presented in a more pedantic and thorough and most of the time in courses you will skip some parts.
I still grind CTFs in my free time and just do shit I like but uni still requires at least some of that time.
>Is it worth going to college for...
Whenever that sentence doesn't end '...making social connections' or '...getting certification which it is literally illegal to work in my field without' the answer is 'no'.
Find some way of making money with the skills you have now while teaching yourself as much as possible. Only consider college when you run into an actual block you can't get past without it.
Literally every tech job has an uncertain future right now and committing to several years of expensive training would be foolish. There is no guarantee that 'code monkey' jobs will actually be replaced by software (more likely made so easy that the wages fall below what will support a first-world person) nor that more complex jobs will be safe.
If you really want job security, learn to do something that requires the 'human touch' or is heavily unionised. In many places 'train driver' is still a well-paid profession despite the technology to replace them existing for decades.
Is cybersecurity ever worth it? All the people I know who studied cybersec in college are doing helpdesk now. One is in the cybersec field but he makes peanuts
I had typed out a reply to this but KurobaEx ate it so frick you here's a Reddit meme.
Yesn't
Doing things like HackTheBox and Offensive Security certificates is more valuable than getting a Cyber Sec degree.
AI is a fricking assistant not a pilot
it can replace you if you are a moronic pajeet
stop being played by fricking stockholders
But it'll take a few years to go through college, and by then it will be able to replace smart white/azn programmers too.
LLM is not even close to AGI
we need complete new architecture to imitate human brains
All it takes is one stupid wealthy angel investor with his head in the clouds, anon.
moron
This.
>Asuka
I see you are a man of culture so I will answer you. Unless you're a non-white you will, even if you are completely moronic by white standards, and I'm talking bottom of the barrel here, you will still be more competent than a non-white. Also this
AI is already big in cyber security for Blue side stuff.
anything not highlighted yellow in this list won't be 100% replaced by AI, but the amount of people hired in these roles will decrease by half I imagine.
Of course AI will replace the highlighted ones too, but a couple years later.
okay ignore the :highlited yellow part" that was dumb, but all IT desk positions of watching for alerts and doing network scans for vulnerabilities will be replaced 100%
>or will it be replaced by AI like most code monkey jobs?
The AI tools that get used in cyber security are intrusion detection systems. They have enough false positives that using them as a fully automated solution is currently non-viable.
Consider the hypothetical in which your delusion about AI replacing all code monkey jobs by the time you graduate is true. In that case there are basically no jobs that are worth going to college for. What will you spend your time on then? Jerking off all day as a NEET? What will your future AGI catgirl gf think of you?
It won't replace you if you aren't lazy and stupid.
Yeah because understanding how to protect or use AI offensively and defensively is going to be huge. AI is going to make cybsec asplode.
>replaced by AI
oh no, he fell for the meme
Not sure if this applies to cyber security but for programming it depend on college because most (if not all) colleges are fricking garbage and will put you into obsolete course.
My college is garbage and they put me to learned ARMv7 Assembly and Prolog but I've seen way worse (some still teaching PHP).
I will never understand why any comp-sci degree even exists in the first place.
to produce computer scientists.
they job is to teach you computational theory. it's purely your own responsibility to find how to apply the taught knowledge in the real life. and yes, you do it in your free time.
now, here's the better question: why do morons pick computer science when they don't plan to become computer scientists?
>Meet girl, she asks me what I'm doing
>say I'm studying Software Development
>says I can't date her because I'm not in Cybersecurity
>Is it worth going to college for cyber security
I'm in one. The bachelor's curriculum is almost on par with a standard Informatics/CS degree so if you want you can switch for the master's where the good shit with AI starts.
I would say that if you want a structured curriculum (everything from math to arduino) and some point of reference and generally being in an environment where people actually care it's worth it BUT ONLY IF YOU DON'T GET DEBT. Also most unis have a career center where you can send your CV and they will try to find you something.
Otherwise I assure you that there's nothing you can't learn by yourself, besides in most normal state unis you can attend lectures for free and you can just download the required text books from listed on the website of each individual course, the material is maybe presented in a more pedantic and thorough and most of the time in courses you will skip some parts.
I still grind CTFs in my free time and just do shit I like but uni still requires at least some of that time.
>Is it worth going to college for...
Whenever that sentence doesn't end '...making social connections' or '...getting certification which it is literally illegal to work in my field without' the answer is 'no'.
Find some way of making money with the skills you have now while teaching yourself as much as possible. Only consider college when you run into an actual block you can't get past without it.
Literally every tech job has an uncertain future right now and committing to several years of expensive training would be foolish. There is no guarantee that 'code monkey' jobs will actually be replaced by software (more likely made so easy that the wages fall below what will support a first-world person) nor that more complex jobs will be safe.
If you really want job security, learn to do something that requires the 'human touch' or is heavily unionised. In many places 'train driver' is still a well-paid profession despite the technology to replace them existing for decades.
Is cybersecurity ever worth it? All the people I know who studied cybersec in college are doing helpdesk now. One is in the cybersec field but he makes peanuts