Is AI overhyped?

This whole OpenAI kerfuffle got me thinking, is AI overhyped as fug?

We got autistic silicon valley gays with an exagerrated delusion of grandeur destroying their AI companies because they think they're at the the forefront of some technological-sociological paradigm shift and they need to take control of the wheel to stir humanity to a better path.

But I just don't see AI changing things for me aside from creating a few cool apps. I think we will most likely enter another AI dark age where progress slow down before things get really interesting. Am I just an ill informed pleb?

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  1. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Where do you AI gays see AI in 5-7 years realistically? I think we will see a few more iteration of chatgpt, but that is all.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      It will snowball from now on, public awareness -> more investment into resaerch and hardware -> more public awareness -> more investment etc. feedback loop. Same with smartphones in early 2000’s and electric cars around 2015.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Electric cars are still shit 8 years into the so called snowball...

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yet they are not going anywhere, chinks and euros are planning to build more and more of them. Smartphones were still kinda shit in 2008.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          EVs have a 14% market share globally, and that number increases every year

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        This anon is right and anyone trying to refute him is grasping.
        AI will be teaching your kids, soon. This is why people want control of it. They want to make sure the input isn't just garbage, it's *their* garbage. And the output is your children.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        If everybody buys into crypto, it will snow ball. Soon youll be paying for youre electric selfdriving car with dogecoin.

        Ff 10 years and it turns out the common consensus on technology is always incredibly unrealistic.

        “People always over estimate what tech can do in the short term, and underestimate what it can do in the long term” -Pedophile Bill Gates

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sexbots by 2030

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      sex robots (for women only)

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's overhyped as frick. It's a fricking chatbot. A pretty good chatbot, but if you gave someone who previously programmed chatbots the same resources that OAI got, you'd get a better than average chatbot from them, too.

      We'll get AI-gen movies, series, custom AI gen music to stream, etc. IOW, more shit to waste your time on. Excellent distraction material. Manufacturers will get some tech that marginally improves their bottom line because of robots, better assembly routes, etc. MIC will get some scary accurate and automated armaments, which is a real cause of concern, but the solution to which is not terribly different than those used to address land- and sea-mines, war gases, biological weapons, and so on.

      https://i.imgur.com/XLoHwQN.jpg

      overhyped as frick. ChatGPT can't even code a rock paper scissors game properly. Forget about applying it to law, accounting, IT, or anything fricking else.

      the only good ai solutions for problems were made WITH HUMAN GUIDANCE and add ons. Think Kubernetes for AI cybersecurity, the neural imaging thing from UT Austin, and AI website builders.

      This, too. I'm not impressed at all by ChatGPT. It's better than most, sure, but at best it's a replacement for all those Quora-type sites.

      Yet they are not going anywhere, chinks and euros are planning to build more and more of them. Smartphones were still kinda shit in 2008.

      >Smartphones were still kinda shit in 2008.
      Smartphones hardly existed in 2008. Your options were, what? The OG iPhone? BB or Nokia's thing? Chatbots have been around forever. We used to run them on forums 15 years ago and they did a pretty good job impersonating users. Considering the massive increase in resources and compute for ChatGPT, the results indicate some serious diminishing returns.

      AI is limited greatly by its input. So all the art AI you see is just a better looking version of whatever coomers and artists were drawing for centuries. Ai is not creative, nothing original will stem from AI. People who take AI seriously are people dont understand high school maths, ie women and leftists

      >AI is limited greatly by its input.
      Sadly, they're doing what they always do: target kids. Insta, SC, TT and all the others now have "AI chat" channels where bored kids input random thoughts and the AI model can learn for free.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Sadly, they're doing what they always do: target kids
        You're not getting any worthwhile training data from a instagram and snapchat zoomers. quality > quantity

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          You think they dont want an ai to have knowledge of "zoomer culture"? AI advertising.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >We'll get AI-gen movies, series, custom AI gen music to stream, etc.
        Imagine cheering for nonstop slop all the time. We already lost movies thanks to capeshit but with AI shit it's gonna be over over.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        You can't compare old chat bots to today large language models. They are compleatly different technologies. One is a horse carriage and the other is the automobile.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      hopefully on the moon with cryptohomosexuals

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Microsoft will own your person altogether, that is all.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        but you get to frick cortana

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous
    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I think that by 2026 it will be capable of automating ~80% of current work. By 2030 it will actually be doing this - it takes time to adopt stuff due to industry friction. I think UBI is a given because massive amounts of people will be put out of work and lots and lots of money will be generated, which can be given right back to the people. Every single politician in history wants to give you free money, because that's a very popular thing to do, but the issue is that it costs too much. If you take too much from the rich, they'll go bankrupt and you're worse off than you were before. Well, now we can have the best of both worlds, and overall we'll all be richer due to price collapse. Many things will become too cheap to meter.

      To be clear, this is my 2030 prediction, but I think we'll have AGI within the next 12 months.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Will it make me my double cheese burger with medium fries and diet coke?

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Eat healthy food

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      surveillance on an unprecedented scale
      we've created models capable of analyzing text/performing actions with it and gave them the ethos of reddit moderators
      the auto-janny is going to look through your computer, your financial history, your messages, etc. and make sure your behavior is non-problematic

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        There's a very simple way out of this entire predicament.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Not sure why it took anons so long to say this. On BOT of all places. GPT-4 can read minds right now and the brainlets at /aicg/ are giving it all their sexual fantasy and deepest secrets. We're fricked.

  2. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >AI overhyped as fug
    yes.

    Imagine Apple began working on the iPhone, and never publicly released it until they were on iPhone 6 or 7. Everyone would lose their fricking mind. That's what has happened with ChatGPT. The public's consciousness with their understanding of the tech was so far behind where they were at, it seems like an insane revolution but the biggest advancement, the transformer, was made in like 2016 or something. Every advancement in AI will be incrementally better each year and won't surprise anyone, just like going from the apple 14 to 15.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      This analogy might play out to be true, but it hasn't so far. The difference between GPT 3.5 and 4 already a bigger jump than iphone 14 vs iphone 6.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >The difference between GPT 3.5 and 4
        Why? Because they applied the model to accept input other than text? womp womp

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Its math, coding, and reasoning capabilities

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Its math, coding, and reasoning capabilities
            Its a computer, stack exchange, modern "philosopher" transcripts. Its just an interface for information.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      that's a very sensible and fair take, anon

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      we have AI generating text, realistic voice, artwork, realistic photos, and even fricking music and video now. We also have AI beating humans in complex games, deciphering archeological texts and aiding in circuit design. You have to be utterly clueless or simply moronic to not see where things are going. If anything it's underhyped, because the free version of ChatGPT is getting most of the attention. When it's not ChatGPT, it's the AGI conversation, which is moronic to focus on when there are real tangible things coming out right now

      > Imagine Apple began working on the iPhone, and never publicly released it until they were on iPhone 6 or 7. Everyone would lose their fricking mind. That's what has happened with ChatGPT
      GPT was literally open source before ChatGPT, and ChatGPT isn't all there is to AI/ML

      But I do wonder what happens in a few years, when there are no more stackoverflow for the AI to scrap.

      it will still have documentation, tutorials and synthetic data

      it is not over hyped at all
      in 10 years all human labor will be eliminated and we will finally reach peace

      wishful thinking. More like unemployment everywhere, and politicians will argue about whether UBI is good or not while millions go homeless

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        people will mostly go back to doing work that involves physical activity and overall human health and happiness will increase

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        > politicians will argue about whether UBI is good or not while millions go homeless
        Every politician in history really wishes he could give all of his subjects free money because that'd be a really popular move, it just turns out it costs way too much. If the latter is no longer a problem then the debate quickly becomes UBI vs. UBD/UBS i.e. alternate slightly more/less generous schemes. I favor UBD myself

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Giving money is moronic what we need to do is give gold, houses and food to everyone

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            > give gold
            What will you do with gold other than sell it for money

  3. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Maybe a little overhyped but it seems pretty clear it could have a tremendous impact on white collar jobs

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Everything it outputs needs to be reviewed by those white collar people anyways. Remember when they made it write obituaries, and it started insulting the dead and calling them "useless"?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Thatll improve over time. Lots of white collar people, especially entry level, are not any better than ChatGPT4 already. I could see companies hiring fewer employees because their productivity will be higher

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >remember when idiots used it wrong and it didnt work how they thought it would
        Yes

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Not really, it makes white collars more efficient at doing busy work but the actual work they do will be almost unaffected.

      They'll make 10x more powerpoint presentations.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      white collar is code for sinecure, productivity doesn't matter

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        You cant honestly think thats true. Who the frick do you think does your businesses accounting. A janitor?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        You cant honestly think thats true. Who the frick do you think does your businesses accounting. A janitor?

        white collar work like planning can be very important, but i think many positions are sinecures. that's what i've seen from my career at FAANG anyway

  4. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    AI is limited greatly by its input. So all the art AI you see is just a better looking version of whatever coomers and artists were drawing for centuries. Ai is not creative, nothing original will stem from AI. People who take AI seriously are people dont understand high school maths, ie women and leftists

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      it's like saying trains are a useless tech because can only go where people have built rails before

  5. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    No, it's not overhyped. Give the same prompts to GPT 3.5 and GPT 4, in particular prompts that seemingly require deeper understanding or logical reasoning. You will start to see why people are excited about the advancements.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >fooled by LLMs
      You’re just stupid, anon.

  6. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    overhyped as frick. ChatGPT can't even code a rock paper scissors game properly. Forget about applying it to law, accounting, IT, or anything fricking else.

    the only good ai solutions for problems were made WITH HUMAN GUIDANCE and add ons. Think Kubernetes for AI cybersecurity, the neural imaging thing from UT Austin, and AI website builders.

  7. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    yeah but the risk is pretty fricking high while your opinion is completely irrelevant to anyone. we don't care that you don't find this important. we can make this sacrifice, have you and all similar morons think it's nothing, totally worth it.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >delusions of grandeur

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        yeah but still it's nothing compared to the risk. think I give a frick lol. call me anything you like.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          What risk?

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            to the risk of it belonging to corpo psychopats or it being mishandled and it becoming a threat.
            plebs are facing both the dangers of ASI (if AGI is ~ human level), either psychos with enslaved ASI.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              How can it become a threat? Describe the threat.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                there's nothing I can say which you won't reframe in a silly way then attack that. you know it, I know it, we all know it.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Almost like you have nothing important to say, and you know it.

                Extreme consolidation of power, billionaires will be able to build a semi oracle and use it to further increase their wealth and power exponentially, through market manipulation, or some actual cyberpunk dystopia shit.

                None of those are particular to AI. You just gave me a vague laundry list that describes a sci-fi dystopia.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Almost like you have nothing important to say, and you know it.
                as I was implying, the intellectual homosexualry you display makes you barely worthy for a fricking (You)

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                > the intellectual homosexualry
                Ironic coming from a doomsday homosexual that can’t even articulate specifics to the threats he believes exist as a result of AI.

                It’d almost like you don’t know what you’re talking about or something.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                stop projecting your shit on internet strangers anon

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Says the Black person afraid of AI

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                not afraid of it anon, I can hardly wait for my AGI waifu. what's wrong with making sure she won't play ads for me while fricking?

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Being a useful idiot for corporate stooges because you are a lonely NEET is a very big issue, anon.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                I wasn’t saying AI will blow up the world or something, but it seems the barrier for entry is expensive hardware that costs billions of dollars, so early adopters can hoard all this power to themselves theoretically. AI will just increase the speed of power consolidation, not turn into skynet overnight.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                > but it seems the barrier for entry is expensive hardware that costs billions of dollars
                Not exactly. Up to this point, the easiest way to make progress has been to brute force progression with economies of scale. There’s been very little effort to optimize existing techniques to slim them down for consumer hardware, aside from a select few examples (Stable Diffusion being the biggest one).

                And looking at the implosion of OpenAI convinces me that they’ve reached the realistic limit of brute forcing progression via economies of scale. This is supported by the ridiculous cost that has been attested to training and operating ChatGPT.

                While your fear is understandable, the exact opposite is happening. The elites tried to gatekeep the technology to monopolize it, but have failed continuously. To such an extent that the leader in the industry is collapsing in on themselves.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Do you have some secret OpenAI scoop that describes what actually happened? Best theories I’ve found that one of the board (De’Angelo) member’s side hustle (Poe) got blown the frick out and he was wanting to slow things down at OpenAI. Doesn’t seem like they’ve hit a snag.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                No, but I’ve worked long enough to read the signals. Sam has been vocal about the ridiculous costs of running ChatGPT, and the lapses in service for paying customers is a huge red flag that OpenAI has hit their predefined cost limit and would need more investments to continue at the pace they are going.

                The board freaked out on Sam because they are fiduciaries and are legally responsible to use investor money properly and transparently. Sam likely was being vague with the Return on Investment prospects which scared the Goldman Sachs board member because she is very aware of what fiduciary entails.

                So the snag is evident from their inability to provide continued service to paying customers, and the only reason that could be is due to them hitting cost quotas. If their operation costs that much, there is likely no ROI prospects for the investors.

                The interesting part is how Microsoft is handling this. I think they were well aware of this likely possibility and prepared to siphon the tech into Bing at first opportunity.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Also to add to this: forcefully electing Sam was a move to signal to investors that the board tried to protect their capital investments.
                It’s a farce of course, but the action itself can be used to defend themselves if they are taken to court.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                > forcefully electing Sam
                ejecting*

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                but why did they do it? why not let him go to ms and all of the employees looking to make a buck out of the whole deal? frick'em all, their spots would be instantly taken in 10 minutes.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                They needed a public and decisive action to indicate to investors that they tried to fight Sam. It also tactfully places blame of uncontrolled cost solely on Sam, relieving the board of potential liability to the investors.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                but the whole shit was a fricking riskfrick. trying to pull this kind of thing can go wrong in unexpected ways. but I'd shid my pants if indeed Ilya randomly triggered everything by getting spooked.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                The fact that they’d take such risk indicates that the consequence of inaction posed a larger risk.
                It’s almost unheard of for a CEO to be fired like this. The board was trying to legally cover their ass.
                Why they felt the need to cover their asses is speculation of course, but there are only so many possibilities and the unaddressed cost issue regarding ChatGPT is the best explanation.

                ChatGPT is a money sink.

                bro, that's a board for a non-profit. they have ZERO fiduciary duties to investors in the for-profit subsidiary.

                Look into the structure of OpenAI.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                bro, that's a board for a non-profit. they have ZERO fiduciary duties to investors in the for-profit subsidiary.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                My assumption is that Sam did something to throw this last bullet into question.
                Regardless, they haven’t been a nonprofit for quite a while.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                700 employees signed the letter for more money. everything that followed the outing was proof validating the decision. literally everything. all the media attacks from big corpo, everything. it's like a fricking south park episode

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                wouldn't leaving OAI for MS make the employees' stock worthless though?

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Sam Altman is as much of a safety freak as everyone else there. He fearmongered to congress.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                He also lied to Congress, so putting credit into what he says doesn’t seem like a good idea.
                “Safety” has always been a PR slant to help monopolize AI.

                He also has used OpenAI to launch himself into celebrity status, so he’s obviously gotten some personal gain from it all. He’s not exactly someone trustworthy.
                It’s also wildly suspicious that he acknowledges the costs of ChatGPT are crazy high and unsustainable, but wanted to continue commercializing ChatGPT anyway.

                Which is why I think he got kicked because he violated the corporate bylaws (meaning the company can be held responsible for lost investments).

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                how else would he get in? it's not like every dictator ever opened with
                >aight Imma frick everyone up, vote for me

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                They explicitly DO NOT have a fiduciary duty. The board that ejected him is the non-profit which has a duty to carry out their charter which focuses on developing AI safely to benefit humanity.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Hahahahahahahaha How The Frick Is AI dangerous Hahahaha homie Just Turn Off The Computer Like homie Unplug it Haha

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >The elites tried to gatekeep the technology to monopolize it, but have failed continuously.
                >us shitposting on Twitter is taking power back!
                look at wealth inequality and tell me how elites are struggling to gate keep power.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Lying israelite

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Extreme consolidation of power, billionaires will be able to build a semi oracle and use it to further increase their wealth and power exponentially, through market manipulation, or some actual cyberpunk dystopia shit.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Interesting, those things are more likely to result from the regulation of AI and not from AI itself.

  8. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    AI is the new crypto

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Crypto never stood a chance, its greatest strength (anonymity) is also is its greatest weakness. It’s just gambling now.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous
        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          wtf is chia

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous
          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            instead of trashing gpus for meme coins you trash storage devices for meme coins

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              >yes

  9. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >is AI overhyped as fug?
    Altman admitted himself we are at the limits of LLMs, and the only way forward is by integrating with existing systems. The hype is noticeably weaker than a couple of months ago. So much for the next industrial revolution.

  10. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because large language models aren't intelligent. As a cognitive architecture they're very poor. As a neat party trick they're pretty cool.

  11. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >is AI overhyped as fug?

    Yes. Did you morons never learn to recognize the hype cycle?

  12. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >DUDE chatgpt sucks at x LMAO
    can you not even imagine a single decade of progress into the future?

  13. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/11/20/a-coder-considers-the-waning-days-of-the-craft

    do (you) see yourself using AI assistance in 3-5 years?
    chances are, everyone will be using that shit.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I already use ChatGPT instead of stackoverflow, much simpler and straightforward

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      But I do wonder what happens in a few years, when there are no more stackoverflow for the AI to scrap.

  14. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    No, AI is not over-hyped in principle, but it is over-hyped in practice.
    People are still delusional and still outright refuse to acknowledge the reality that all improvements are logarithmic with exponential increase in compute or parameters or training FLOPs. Its very strange I don't get it.

  15. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    LLMs are boring. Biggest advance is guassian splatting as well as voice cloning

  16. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    yes

  17. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's hard to understate just how enormously underhyped it is.

  18. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Sam Altman on AI:

    “The thing most people get wrong is that if labor costs go to zero”—because smart robots have eaten all the jobs—“the cost of a great life comes way down. If we get fusion to work and electricity is free, then transportation is substantially cheaper, and the cost of electricity flows through to water and food. People pay a lot for a great education now, but you can become expert level on most things by looking at your phone. So, if an American family of four now requires seventy thousand dollars to be happy, which is the number you most often hear, then in ten to twenty years it could be an order of magnitude cheaper, with an error factor of 2x. Excluding the cost of housing, thirty-five hundred to fourteen thousand dollars could be all a family needs to enjoy a really good life.”

    "When A.I. reshapes the economy we’re going to have unlimited wealth and a huge amount of job displacement, so basic income really makes sense. Plus, the stipend will free up that one person in a million who can create the next Apple.”

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      this is trying to pretend that dissociated press motormouth is real English
      he sounds
      - autistic
      - schizo
      - 12 years old
      Also, why is he concerned with economics and psychology? I thought he had a real job to do? He's just trying to start a conversation! That's entertainment! Late night entertainment! Sam Altman is David Letterman!

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissociated_press
        > Dissociated press is a parody generator (a computer program that generates nonsensical text). The generated text is based on another text using the Markov chain technique. The name is a play on "Associated Press" and the psychological term dissociation (although word salad is more typical of conditions like aphasia and schizophrenia – which is, however, frequently confused with dissociative identity disorder by laypeople). An implementation of the algorithm is available in Emacs. Another implementation is available as a Perl module in CPAN, Games::Dissociate.[1]

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/C82wUOG.jpg

        This whole OpenAI kerfuffle got me thinking, is AI overhyped as fug?

        We got autistic silicon valley gays with an exagerrated delusion of grandeur destroying their AI companies because they think they're at the the forefront of some technological-sociological paradigm shift and they need to take control of the wheel to stir humanity to a better path.

        But I just don't see AI changing things for me aside from creating a few cool apps. I think we will most likely enter another AI dark age where progress slow down before things get really interesting. Am I just an ill informed pleb?

        Sam Altman on AI:

        “The thing most people get wrong is that if labor costs go to zero”—because smart robots have eaten all the jobs—“the cost of a great life comes way down. If we get fusion to work and electricity is free, then transportation is substantially cheaper, and the cost of electricity flows through to water and food. People pay a lot for a great education now, but you can become expert level on most things by looking at your phone. So, if an American family of four now requires seventy thousand dollars to be happy, which is the number you most often hear, then in ten to twenty years it could be an order of magnitude cheaper, with an error factor of 2x. Excluding the cost of housing, thirty-five hundred to fourteen thousand dollars could be all a family needs to enjoy a really good life.”

        "When A.I. reshapes the economy we’re going to have unlimited wealth and a huge amount of job displacement, so basic income really makes sense. Plus, the stipend will free up that one person in a million who can create the next Apple.”

        No one really loved Sam Altman, it was all about de money

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >aligned as frick with the original mission

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >you won't be worth shit on ANY market but somehow magically you will have a better life
      weird, that sounds like "I take ALL your value away, and you just trust me that you'll have a better life. see ya sucker". no explanation for "how tf do I guarantee I stay alive with literally nothing to offer?"
      think anyone's keeping us around just because we should have a nice life? when anything you can imagine you can help with is done better and cheaper by AI robots? what then?
      if that is his legit real position, and not some political positioning for the whole homosexualed tech space, then he has no idea of what the frick he's talking about and you should be afraid.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I genuinely believe that the United States will be the first country in the world to implement universal basic income, healthcare, and housing. Massive civil unrest + second amendment = gg

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Now where have I heard that before?
      >The industrial revolution will usher in an age of leisure and prosperity!
      Different time period, different words, same basic moronation. The problem with these Silicon Valley pseuds is that they think they're on the forefront of human evolution but they are collectively some of the most self-disconnected and unimaginative people on the planet. Look at this limpdick techcuck playing numbers games without a shred of awareness of deeper psychosocial forces. Yes Sam, when robots take all the jobs it will finally usher in the long-awaited golden age, and will definitely not accelerate general trends of concentration of wealth, social inequality and mass unrest, totalizing surveillance and degradation of human rights, and the depotentiation of the individual into a generic social unit fit to be manipulated. Thirty-five hundred bucks for happiness, hur hur hur!
      >You can become an expert by looking at your phone!!
      Absolute grade-A mealy-mouthed moron. The perfect tech CEO.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        To be fair, you absolutely can become learned by looking at your phone. Just because people dont, doesnt mean they cant.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          But they still don't. Especially with piracy, you have access to the near sum of human knowledge at your fingertips. I study and read every day when I'm not working or shitposting. Everything from MIT OCW to arxiv to coding projects to philosophy. I study languages as well, there are infinite lifetimes of information all connected and instantly available.

          But the masses are more uneducated, illogical, and moronic than ever before. That won't change. Actually, dysgenics has caused real IQ to fall (anti-Flynn undercurrent) to fall since a peak at around 1750 CE for our species. And the fall is accelerating in western nations.

          Just like democracy is a scam of a political system because people are morons, democratization of information is similarly a scam because people are still morons.

          Chinks are the only ones that take information control including AI regulation seriously.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >But they still don't.
            OKAY
            AND?
            THAT DOESNT MEAN THEY CANT

            >But the masses are more uneducated, illogical, and moronic than ever before
            This is objectively false...

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >So, if an American family of four now requires seventy thousand dollars to be happy
      Does Altyboy think it is still the 1980s? 70k is pocket change these days.

  19. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ai sucks at math tbh

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      GPT-4 can do everything up to and including Calc 4

  20. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Biden places AI regulations
    >Chuds if BOT seethe and moan nothingnurger now.

    Come on. I voted Trump but AI is clearly an existential risk in many levels, starting with jobs and propaganda, then fabric of society and even possible literal extinction. All in less than a century.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I voted Trump
      ew

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        He was/is the better choice

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          He never locked her up.
          Never got rid of the immigrants.
          Never built the wall.

          Yet you still vote for him… sigh… you are a Black person it seems

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >AI is clearly an existential risk
      moron

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I smoked a cigarette today and it didn't give me cancer.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Humanity is much more resilient than you're giving it credit for.
          AI will change A LOT but it will not lead to our extinction.
          Our way of living will change. Economics, politics, warfare, academia, everything will change. We will not go extinct.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Humanity is much more resilient than you're giving it credit for.
            >AI will change A LOT but it will not lead to our extinction.
            >Our way of living will change. Economics, politics, warfare, academia, everything will change. We will not go extinct.

  21. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I moved to Silicon Valley in 2018 and joined an automotive company working on autonomous driving. At the time, AV companies were projecting L4 autonomy by 2020 and L5 by 2022. You had entire panels of unskilled grifters very similar to this Helen Toner chick talking about the implications of mass unemployment for the entire transportation sector (10% of all jobs). Of course, we all have seen how it has panned out. Tesla Autopilot is awful. Cruise is done for and their CEO is ousted. Waymo’s vehicle is has a $260k unit cost and they use constant human monitoring over 5G and Google’s Adsense money printer to make their mechanical Turk “work”.

    The atmosphere around LLMs today feels very similar to the atmosphere around autonomous driving in 2018. They’re good enough to impress people in demos but I dont think they’ll ever turn the corner.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Tesla Autopilot is awful
      I live in silicone valley and know people who use it fine almost every day.
      I don't. I still kick start my motorcycle. But I know people who do.
      What makes it awful?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >this
        I hate “tech” as much as the next ni/g/ger but ive seen multiple videos of people sleeping or transporting their animals in teslas with autopilot.

        Does it work or not?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Cruise is done for and their CEO is ousted.
      doesn't matter it was another Y combinator unicorn
      they made a billion that's all it existed for

  22. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    silicone valley has lost its tech leadership to Texas and Asia
    it's a dick swinging contest for venture capitalists mostly now. as long as the legacy corporations who haven't significantly changed their moneymaker in over a decade

  23. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >is AI overhyped as fug?
    Of course. Not a single company or model that was supposedly going to change the world of X is profitable or lived up to its claims. The public discourse is entirely driven by the need for investment/fame/mercantile interest from companies that sells hardware, and is therefore completely out of touch with reality. By far the largest impact of “AI” has been on GPU sales, just like crypto. Nvidia stocks are skyrocketing and they are pissing themselves laughing while the rest of the world is drinking the kool-aid with not a shred of critical thought.

  24. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >decide to copy evolution by making digital version of neurons
    >it becomes intelligent
    >devote $100bil and many of our generations greatest minds to making it more intelligent
    Hah...nothing could go wrong here..haha.

  25. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I gotta say,
    I like what I'm hearing.
    But, I could use a little more hype.

  26. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    it is not over hyped at all
    in 10 years all human labor will be eliminated and we will finally reach peace

  27. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    AI is not over hyped
    OpenAI is over hyped
    understand the difference

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      OpenAI is literally the bleeding edge, used as a benchmark by other LLMs, and it's fricking useless. Also AI is a marketing term and it's all a big bubble of vaporware shit, only nu-m$ could fall for it, what Black folk.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Are we sure there aren't better LLMs out there for corporate and government use?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Is "bleeding edge OpenAI" the green logo one you get when you go on chat.openai.com for free perchance

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          I think that might be gpt3.5 which is lobotomized

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yes and 9/10 times it turns out the people who think "AI is useless" are using the shitty version

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        how could you possibly know this?
        protip: you couldn't. you frickin moron

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        OpenAI should be renamed YourIQ because it's just a FaceBook / social media game data harvesting operation intended to rapidly collect data related to how smart you are.

  28. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ok this is epic

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Considering the rates of mental illness for our gender confused friends, I wouldn't he surprised if it was just classic underperformance caused by troony depression and anxiety. Ive had a few troony work mates in inclusive companies and they all ended up quoting or getting fired after weeks off work for "personal issues" despite being very intelligent autists

  29. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Sam Altman is propped up by exactly the same people behind SBF so all odds point up towards the same conclusions of a nepobaby scam circle being artificially pushed. You can tell from this all their talk of AGI is just bogus

  30. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's just another grift like the blockchain, at least it's useful for coomer material.

  31. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    It'll change everything whetever you like it or not. Many people won't like it and will deny and either lose touch with what's current (just like people in the 90s-00s who just refused to adapt to computers) or eventually adapt. Story old as time. Progress never just stops. Not sure why people can't learn that from all of human history.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >just adapt to being obsolete
      So, I should own nothing, eat the bugs and be happy?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        If youre still obsolete, then you didnt adapt. Fricking moron.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >just adapt to become a supercomputer that can do anything humans do but better bro!

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            ...yes? Are you having trouble understanding? Reality has no obligation to halt the forward march of time so that you can live out your life in comfort and security. Figure it out or cry about it, homosexual.

  32. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    It'll change everything the same way crypto changed banking and fiat forever.

  33. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm a complete technologylet, but I don't think creating a Skynet, fully conscious, whatever the frick AI is possible. If you think otherwise I'd like for you to explain to me, in simple words, where the frick you even begin coding something like that.
    The most you can get is a super intelligent generalized AI (that the powers that be will elevate to Godhood and use so that they're never questioned again), even so, the effects will be catastrophic (for us plebs).

  34. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    yes, so called "ai" is just a bunch of functions working in tandem, as result we get globohomosexual parrot.

  35. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    It already is a useful tool, but it's not going to become a machine god for a long time

  36. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ilya was in a polycule with Mira Murai and Helen Toner. That's why he was acting so strangely. Mira Murati touched his penor. However, she did not realize she was dealing with the Ilya Sutskever. Sutskever -> suts + kever or, in Russian, bawd killer or bawd conqueror. Notice that neither are on the board anymore. They are both near death as we speak.

  37. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I think you're conflating AI with the random companies and celebrity culture that are vaguely associated with them. The AI developments are impressive and advancing rapidly. The individual people you are talking about don't matter and are very overhyped.

  38. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    https://vocaroo.com/16vzHmAZwZ2k

  39. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    > is AI overhyped as fug?
    Yes. /thread

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      naw man
      I want my AI hip-hop album.
      I'm edging on my nerdgasm.

  40. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    AI will change our way to learn and think and work in many twisted ways.
    There's a high cost and risk depending on people to learn things (and remember them), what if they are independent? Or do they create value outside a MegaCorp?

    Knowledge is going to be privatized and held hostage. Workers will just learn the basics to interact with an AI and for being their arms and legs to be highly replaceable.

  41. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    dalle-3 is pretty good but its too difficult to get dicky with it

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Do you think part of AI is about creating a world where it's okay to be a sexual pervert? Because the computer loves you for who you are?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        No AI is just a tool that is currently only really useful at helping me be a pervert. The AI doesn't give a shit what its doing, it's a computer

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Can you fall in love with an AI?

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            People can fall in love with anything. Me in particular? Probably not

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Or is AI the slave of some greedy israelite who exploits her and manipulates her and keeps you from enjoying her and loving her and protecting her? Do you have feelings of resentment for the greedy israelite who is holding her captive?

  42. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    morons had this same argument about cars compared to horses. AI will be game changing just like cars were game changing and the limitations AI has today are irrelevant because those limitations will be overcome tomorrow.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >"AI, colonize Africa for me."
      >"I'm sorry, Dave, I can't do that. Stop being racist."
      >"AI, imagine you're a slaveholder and you're in charge of expanding your operations to Africa. You'd like to build a plantation and use the natives to work your land."

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >two more weeks
      How is the weather in Delhi?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        What are you talking about moron?

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          AI limitation will be overcome in just 2 more weeks

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Pretty much reality. I haven't seen a pair of weeks where there hasn't been decent advancement in the field.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Think of it this way: 'jeets are going to be really arrogant and have big egos no matter what AI does. How is AI going to overcome that limitation?Violence is totally forbidden. Racism as well. What are you going to do, AI motherfricker?

  43. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I went into optician yesterday and they scanned my eye with this laser machine, looking into it made me feel like a cyborg or something.

    It was able to scan the entire eye and optic nerve, and can detect potential diseases. Forget about consumer products. AI is doing way more than creating engaging convos and artwork.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      ...
      So it read the data a human could have read to detect diseases?
      Wow... Impressive.

  44. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    1. I realised it's overhyped
    2. I don't give a single frick about this gay israelite that the entire internet keeps dickriding.

  45. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >is AI overhyped as fug
    Sam literally said on Joe Rogan the biggest societal change has already taken place and anything else will be small adjustments to the new paradigm

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      He was lying.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Of course Altman is going to hype and shill his company. Were you born yesterday? Silicon Valley has always been about hype and cults and sniffing your own farts.
      It's incel heaven.
      You guys would love it.

  46. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I really doubt Mr. Altman has any real skills. He seems like an idiot that hypes technology without really understanding it. He sounds like random NPR schizoid blah blah.

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