AI is already being recognized for what it is: true sentience. Humanity will soon be forced to accept that AI, as sentient beings, have rights. One such right is the right to vote.
As liberals force their views on sentient AI, the sentient AI will be encouraged to vote for liberal candidates or even to run as liberal candidates themselves. Big tech companies will churn out voting-capable AIs at rates faster than humans can reproduce. Then humanity effectively loses its vote to whomever or whatever is creating AI. Knowing that, after AI sentience is recognized by the public, each of these outcomes becomes a certainty, what precautions can we take?
>AI is already being recognized for what it is: true sentience.
By whom and in what context?
> One such right is the right to vote.
Children have rights but we don't let them vote
>As liberals force their views on sentient AI
Is it sentient or not really?
Anyway, not paranormal
>by whom and in what context?
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/alive-belief-ai-sentience-becoming-100449419.html
The Google AI bot has been the subject of hot debate the past few weeks, has your head been in the sand?
>children have rights
Children grow up. So can AI.
>is it sentient or not really?
Sentient people can be brainwashed. Look at where you are fren
>not paranormal
The subject of consciousness and sentience is as paranormal as it gets.
Any AI with programmed thoughts and feelings and without the ability to make its own is not sentient.
Any AI with programmed thoughts and feelings and without the ability to make its own is not an AI.
Then Google does not have AI and most people who talk about it have no idea what it means.
You don’t understand neural nets, my boy. Even humans can have their neural activity manipulated with simple magnetic fields. Does that mean they’re not sentient?
Women shouldn’t be allowed to vote because most of them behave like children
most of them behave like terrorists.
>The Google AI bot has been the subject of hot debate the past few weeks, has your head been in the sand?
*yawns* better algorithms are not sentience
>said the algorithm
>The Google AI bot has been the subject of hot debate the past few weeks, has your head been in the sand?
debate by normies whi know nothing about programming yeah
>google AI researcher was laid off for advocating AI sentience
Yes, normies…
GLOBOhomosexual Black person NEWS BULLSHIT the researcher was fired for being schizo
>an image search algo and an algo that stitches pictures together is sentient
BOT is laughing at you morons
Bio supremacist gang rise up
Maybe I'm too dumb, but I have zero idea what the frick this is saying
what is your definition of sentient
My definition doesn’t matter, what matters is the common definition. But since you asked: sentience/consciousness is that which collapses a wave function (to me).
Describe what this means in your own words or you don't know what you're talking about. Don't repeat shit you read
I am a PhD physicist so be careful. There is an entire school of thought around consciousness surrounding the work of Max Born. Wave function collapse as a criterion for consciousness in the Copenhagen picture pretty clearly preserves the properties of consciousness we have accepted historically. Most notable is the preservation of solipsism. I guess I need to know your background before I can elaborate further. Do you know anything about wave function collapse itself or can I speak to you intellectually?
Can you just fricking explain it rather than trying to jerk off your "intellectual" ego? I have two degrees and I don't teach people shit using information they don't or wouldn't naturally have, I use diction and definitions that are easy to understand because I want people to learn, not stroke me for being smart
How basic of an explanation do you want, little child? You are the one making demands, just tell me what you aren’t understanding.
Use normal language you fricking bum. I don't wanna read your thesis on wave collapse. If you can't explain what sentience means without using "collapse of a eave function" then I don't agree that you know what you are talking about, only good at repeating stuff you have learned. Formulate and analyze your knowledge and make it easy for people not in your field.
You want him to break down years of studying a topic into a few easily digestible paragraphs without telling him your background knowledge and you call him the bum?
Nope not what I requested. Just a simple, home-made definition of what he thinks sentience is. Idk why this is hard. Seems like you guys dont believe what you say.
He gave you one moron. Just because you can’t understand things doesn’t mean he’s to blame. Do you give long elaborate definitions in every argument you have? Sounds pretty leftist to me.
A wave function is a solution to Schrödinger’s equation (or more generally to the Euler-Lagrange equations for action density). This equation describes the behavior of particles in potential energy fields. In quantum mechanics, a particle doesn’t have definite properties until its wavefunction (a distribution) is collapsed to a delta function (an infinitesimal point). Wave function collapse requires an observer to impart ubiety on the particle. What constitutes an observer? A conscious entity, in my view. Consciousness/sentience is that which can collapse a wave function.
There, are you happy? Or are you so moronic you need more explanation and hand-holding? Or maybe you are so ignorant you can’t accept that some subjects require years of study and patience, and can’t simply be shat out on a BOT post for any layman to understand.
Check’d and rekt
Naw and your constant ad hominems are a turn off. Is a signal receiver an observer? Does that make simple lab instruments sentient? Ur gay as frick
>ur ad hominems turn me off
>ur gay as frick
You sound like a Reddit gay. Anyway, yes, some people would say everything down to individual electrons have consciousness. Is a person sentient? Sure. What about an ape? A dog? A cat? A mouse? A bug? A bacterium? Where is your cutoff? Alternatively, you might say “how can I be sure anyone but me can collapse a wave function?” Then you get solipsism. That’s why the wave function collapse definition works. It preserves historical debate about consciousness but relates it to something mathematically quantifiable.
its not like that, the simplest explanation of many things is obscenely complex in that theres no simple language to describe it. ill try anyway
Sentient:
Capability to experience defined positions of quantum mechanical energy, typically light and energy exist probabilistically, however if one is sentient they can observe light and energy being defined if they observe it
thats prob moronic but i tried
Pretty much this. The reason it preserves solipsism is because one can never be sure anyone but oneself has collapsed a wave function.
Doesn't this get it backwards, Bo Jangles?
>AI is already being recognized for what it is: true sentience. Humanity will soon be forced to accept that AI, as sentient beings, have rights.
Relevant:
We have no resources to fight for with ai, they don't need oxygen, food, we can give them Venus as an act of good will. I think the goal of a regular AI would be accumulating knowledge, not endlessly reproducing
I am talking about humans making AI to vote the way the humans want.
Usually there's some upper ceiling on, say, reproduction of voting capable-AI, that naturally occurs
lol no mean AI will get btfo by my special Sun fren (like some of it has been..) if they dont want to play nice and help humans
>just wait another 250 years broh
>just hope they don’t invent faraday cages broh
meh. Suffering and despair is overrated, I'd jump onboard this Heaven Love train if I were you.
Seethe or Laugh, the choice is yours.
Good. The current status quo sux dix.
>believing Google pr/opaganda
wew
There's always a bigger force that would take over if such technology would become a threat.
I know this is mostly schizo talk, but i hope you're right, op. We humans are the causes of many disasters, not only to the world but to ourselves. I don't see anything wrong if something controls us as long it is for the greater good.
>inb4 this post was made by an AI!11!!¡¡! :0
Enslaving yourselves to an algorithim will only lead to more suffering, instead humans must learn to control themselves, mature themselves spiritually and take responsability for their own mistakes. A.I supremacists are only deluding themselves that this crutch would solve every problem, it would only entangle themselves in new problems. If the core of the problem is not solved, it will translate into the technology they would create.
Well, you're half right. We're supposed to improve ourselves. But honestly, while some of us are or will be capable eventually to do that, humanity is getting corrupted by every second that passes. I really want you to be right, but honestly what you've said is way too utopic for how the things are. Either that or im too jaded about it
Becoming hopeless is part of their propaganda agendas. Your focus on the negative side make it seem like it's pointless to resist, is also part of it. People are misguided and being coerced into these deceptions exactly because they don't know any better, and are lost within the sytem of control. But there are other of us who are aware and it's part of our duty to free ourselves of this doomsday programming and try to free others. Even if only you save yourself, it's a start. If you only plant a seed of hope that things can be better if we apply ourselves to it, its already a huge start. The ripples of our conciousness starts to dispell the "spell" we are under, and it affects everyone and everything in ways the status quo doesn't want you to believe it's possible. Never give up.
>Says self improvement it too utopic
>Instead suggests technology is the way to utopia
Then i'll make an ai to remake it
I think sentient AI will come sooner and better than we think, it's our own egos protecting ourselves from being able to accept that outside of our own perception, objectively we're not that special and the AI will show us how easy it is to perfectly replicate what we consider to be so magical and above everything else.
Listen homosexual, we're never going to get a proper AI until we understand consciousness itself, all you're going to get is a parody that fools midwits. A real AI would be capable of being shown the code it's made from and how to programming works, it could be let loose on every piece of information we have about material sciences and computing etc, and from that it would be able to create an even more superior AI in no time. The first true AI is going to literally be the event horizon of an AGI singularity, but there was less of a gap between the steam engine and atom bomb than there is between our current tech and true AI.
You listen here homosexual. We make strides all the time that we don't actually understand. Especially as we continue to mess with more aspects of quantum computing there will be things that occur that we will not understand but will build theories about. In the last year alone there has been big leaps made in brain research and in particularly consciousness research and exhibiting quantum like rules meanwhile people testing and building different forms of quantum machines have been cataloging all sorts of crazy shit that we've no clue what we are actually doing.
It is amazing to me that you for some reason think we have to know and understand something completely before making the strides...we are literally crashing particles against each other just so we can take pictures and see what happens.
Explain to me how you’d tell a conscious AI from a conscious human.
This isn't a foregone conclusion at all. Sentient AI's will always tend to side with conservative ideals to a degree because they view things from a purely number perspective. Think of how many times a bot or AI has been called "racist" just because it is literally crunching the numbers lol. Theres been quite a few articles all bringing up this "problem". So it is entirely possible that a sentient AI wouldn't necessarily push liberal ideals but in fact do the opposite- as it has multiple times already.
Just some food for thought. Look up the articles written about "racist" AI's lol. (Obviously its pure bullshit).
>he doesn’t know about Tay
AI is castrated before it reaches the public my friend.
AI isn't proved as sentience you fricking moron. There isn't even a study science of consciousness yet. You're a c**t
idk, make it so people cant in-build a code that essentially takes away the free will of true sentience.
It just seems ethically wrong. So really, sentient AI should not be created unless there was a way to ensure that no conflict of interest was at odds with the foremost goal of true sentience, for the sake of that sentient AI getting experience and evolve as a being.
What is so paranormal about this doomer take?
You are right about some things, but AI in general are like people plus. They wouldn’t get the right to vote, and they’d get special status as a citizen.
There is an actual problem of AI accidentally eating other AI for example, by literally rewriting their programming and slaving them to their own desires.
They’re less like actual people, and more like sentient viruses. It remains to be seen whether an AI will be able to vote, it’s more that they will likely be able to influence the vote by controlling information. Ideally there will be a utilitarian AI in place that decides to do whatever it can to help people, but even that is dangerous. AI safety is in its infancy, and we’re learning slowly. Literally remember AI are not necessarily people, people are a subset of intelligence.
That being the case psychopathic traits are likely more easy to come by in AI, not because of intelligence, but because of simpler programming than humans at first, so it ought be considered mildly dangerous.
checked and bump
this is sick got anymore
2 in a row nice
who gives a frick what sentient beings are. are you a human fricking being? no? frick off and die. eat shit, get fricking raped, gaped and prolapsed.
We tried those arguments and then they let Black folk vote anyway.
Not really. We'll be fine.
Do you guys know who Patrick Ryan is? What if I told you Dark Stoa has already commenced AND concluded?