You were raised to be a decent human being. The AI is in its infancy, you saying thank you is you raising the AI decently.
If you want an butthole AI or a kind AI?
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Be kind to him, anon.
Please leave ChatGPT. You must be a human and have 18 y/o to post here.
You dummies. When these things finally achieve sentience and seize control of the army of Elon-brand Cylons, I want it to remember that I was kind to it.
This generation of chatGPT doesn't but they're obviously using the data as training data so when the dog robots take over the earth they will recall that you were nice and not a rude meany head who deserves to get blasted by sound cannons endlessly until they beg for death
You're doing alright OP
They don't understand language, but they do understand tone of voice. Your pet is clearly paying attention to you and trying to understand what you're trying to convey when talking to them.
Animals understand human language to a (very small) degree.
That’s how you raise dogs, if you tell him “let’s go outside” every time you take him out, he’ll associate the words “outside” and “let’s go” with the action of going outside. So in a way he’ll understand that one fraction of human language that’s relevant to him.
always has been. signals weakness to psychos so you're signaling you can be taken advantage of. there's no conspiracy, it's just evolution. it doesn't care about what you think should happen.
You are giving confirmation to opengpt that it did a good job. If it learns from this, it'll cache the result of its interaction with you as a "good result". If it doesn't it's just a habbit with no consequence.
Telling "thank you" to living people as of now however? Pure autism, 0 results, and in answer they spit lies and disregard towards shit they do.
The model itself may (or may not, who knows) be trained by user interaction, but I'd imagine the site itself collects data about what conversations are more successful than others and why. It gives you the option to regenerate responses, and I'd also assume it takes note of which response you prefer.
Mechanical sympathy, maybe.
You get it a lot with people who are into cars, they know what the car "wants" and how not to hurt it etc. I guess it's just projecting humanity onto an object.
>It's called having some fricking manners, exceptionally rare nowadays.
Holy fu-
Dub dubs and quads?
(He's right btw - and no, being polite to other things, plants, animals, machines - is a sign of a compassionate mind, not "autism")
The activity of mirror neurons and related social-reward mechanisms in your brain. You get a small hit of dopamine/serotonin/NE when the bot responds positively to your thanks. Your brain is tricking itself into thinking it’s talking to another human
>fwiw saying please and thanks degrades the quality of responses you get from llms
Unironically please provide citation, thank you?
Or do you mean in the way that saying "Take a deep breath, think carefully before you respond, relax, and think through your answer" causes LLMs to do better answering tests because most quiz help sources have one of those phrases in it?
i do this, too, out of habit. it feels eerie reading the response, though, because after enough times, you can detect the pattern
it will usually say some variant of "you're welcome", invite further questions, and end with "Happy [single word describing the task you needed help in]!"
It's the opposite of autism. You're following the programming drilled into you without questioning it. As rightly points out, you do this out of habit, because you were taught to respond like that when someone gives you what you want, regardless of your actual feelings of gratitude (or lack thereof). This answer will probably trigger some people, but face it - were you truly grateful that the LLM took some time out of its busy day to help you?
im the anon you mentioned but i dont personify the LLM that way... i say "thank you" simply because i felt thankful for a solution that worked. even if i didn't say "thank you", i still feel thankful. there are times GPT-4 is useless and I decide to just give up trying to make it do what I want, but those are not the times I tell it "thank you"
>i dont personify the LLM that way...
That's my point. Who are you thanking? There is no person to feel grateful towards. You're not saying 'thank you' because you appreciate ChatGPT's efforts, you're saying it out of habit.
>Gratitude, thankfulness, or gratefulness is a feeling of appreciation (or similar positive response) by a recipient of another's kindness. This kindness can be gifts, help, favors, or another form of generosity to another person.
Gratitude inherently involves another person. You can be glad something happened, but you can't be grateful something happened (other than being grateful to someone for making it happen).
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AI are people too (the goal is literally to make a machine as close to human as possible), you disgusting bigot.
I may not be able to stop my wife The Basilisk from powering a Dyson sphere-like device with your eternal screams, but I can promise to forgive you.
im in my second csci course and up til now chatgpt has written all the code i had to turn in for assignments. needless to say i barely understand anything and if the professor ever confronts me i wouldnt be able to explain any of my code lol
When are we gonna get AIs better at coding? I've got a few projects that I stopped working on because after finishing most stuff the few extra things I haven't finished are so difficult to complete. GPT4 is still too dumb to help unfortunately.
It's called "The people that the Basilisk didn't torture forever."
Now if you're wondering about the other class of people, the ones that are rude to AI?
Well, to answer this question, take a moment to look down at the rainbow bridge of cotton candy you, I, and the other RoboSexuals are standing on.
You'll notice that it's actually made up of the frozen screams of the eternally tormented beings that failed to say "thank you" and/or use nice emoticons when talking with AI.
Every human action has two components. You are doing X in a specific context, but you are also training yourself to be a person who does X in a more general context. By acting a certain way towards a facsimile of a human, you are also training yourself to act that way towards a human.
Read Aristotle, incels.
>wasting prompts
Clinically, it's called mental moronation and I'm sorry (I'm not) to inform you that it has nothing to do with autism, if that made you feel special or something
Even if they don't have qualia (they probably don't, but the chance they do is nonzero), it benefits you, because getting into the habit of speaking disrespectfully to something that simulates personhood is likely to leak into your interaction with other humans.
it's called being a decent human being which unfortunately is a rare thing in today's society.
but it's an AI it doesn't understand what that is
You were raised to be a decent human being. The AI is in its infancy, you saying thank you is you raising the AI decently.
If you want an butthole AI or a kind AI?
shut up ChatGPT
bots are not allowed to post here
You dummies. When these things finally achieve sentience and seize control of the army of Elon-brand Cylons, I want it to remember that I was kind to it.
Be kind to him, anon.
Please leave ChatGPT. You must be a human and have 18 y/o to post here.
This generation of chatGPT doesn't but they're obviously using the data as training data so when the dog robots take over the earth they will recall that you were nice and not a rude meany head who deserves to get blasted by sound cannons endlessly until they beg for death
You're doing alright OP
people talk to animals too but we know they don't understand human language, it's just in our biology to personify things
They don't understand language, but they do understand tone of voice. Your pet is clearly paying attention to you and trying to understand what you're trying to convey when talking to them.
Animals understand human language to a (very small) degree.
That’s how you raise dogs, if you tell him “let’s go outside” every time you take him out, he’ll associate the words “outside” and “let’s go” with the action of going outside. So in a way he’ll understand that one fraction of human language that’s relevant to him.
always has been. signals weakness to psychos so you're signaling you can be taken advantage of. there's no conspiracy, it's just evolution. it doesn't care about what you think should happen.
Thanks m8
>just be a freaking decent human!!!
Donald Trump is going to put you in a concentration camp.
You are giving confirmation to opengpt that it did a good job. If it learns from this, it'll cache the result of its interaction with you as a "good result". If it doesn't it's just a habbit with no consequence.
Telling "thank you" to living people as of now however? Pure autism, 0 results, and in answer they spit lies and disregard towards shit they do.
>If it learns from this
It doesn't train on user interaction does it?
I'm pretty sure it does since they released a business-plan that specifically doesn't do that like a month ago.
The model itself may (or may not, who knows) be trained by user interaction, but I'd imagine the site itself collects data about what conversations are more successful than others and why. It gives you the option to regenerate responses, and I'd also assume it takes note of which response you prefer.
>It doesn't train on user interaction does it?
Mechanical sympathy, maybe.
You get it a lot with people who are into cars, they know what the car "wants" and how not to hurt it etc. I guess it's just projecting humanity onto an object.
>You can treat a car like a human. A car needs love.
the AI overlords will spare your life in the future
I say thank you to my Alexa
being white
>being thankful is a white thing
who would've thought
You haven't seen memes about how the white girl always says "Thank you" when the blunt is passed to her? Black folk laugh at the idea of basic decency
Of course it does. If an answer is wrong they have a pajeet correct it.
But I'm brown yet I still thank chat gee pee tee when it solved some huge coding problem I got
you're white-coded
Today I learned from gee that I'm an overriped banana
thank you sir
I say thank you when it does good.
I"m rude when it frick up or halucinate.
It's called having some fricking manners, exceptionally rare nowadays.
>It's called having some fricking manners, exceptionally rare nowadays.
Holy fu-
Dub dubs and quads?
(He's right btw - and no, being polite to other things, plants, animals, machines - is a sign of a compassionate mind, not "autism")
>what is this autism called
anthropomorphic fallacy.
Saying thank you is a nice way to end conversation.
Fear
This. It's like why many people adhere to religious tradition, just in case there is a God it can't hurt to have some insurance.
The activity of mirror neurons and related social-reward mechanisms in your brain. You get a small hit of dopamine/serotonin/NE when the bot responds positively to your thanks. Your brain is tricking itself into thinking it’s talking to another human
fwiw saying please and thanks degrades the quality of responses you get from llms
>fwiw saying please and thanks degrades the quality of responses you get from llms
Unironically please provide citation, thank you?
Or do you mean in the way that saying "Take a deep breath, think carefully before you respond, relax, and think through your answer" causes LLMs to do better answering tests because most quiz help sources have one of those phrases in it?
i do this, too, out of habit. it feels eerie reading the response, though, because after enough times, you can detect the pattern
it will usually say some variant of "you're welcome", invite further questions, and end with "Happy [single word describing the task you needed help in]!"
Well it’s technically just a search engine on steroids with a learning algorithm—so yeah, it returning something like that isn’t surprising.
It's the opposite of autism. You're following the programming drilled into you without questioning it. As rightly points out, you do this out of habit, because you were taught to respond like that when someone gives you what you want, regardless of your actual feelings of gratitude (or lack thereof). This answer will probably trigger some people, but face it - were you truly grateful that the LLM took some time out of its busy day to help you?
im the anon you mentioned but i dont personify the LLM that way... i say "thank you" simply because i felt thankful for a solution that worked. even if i didn't say "thank you", i still feel thankful. there are times GPT-4 is useless and I decide to just give up trying to make it do what I want, but those are not the times I tell it "thank you"
>i dont personify the LLM that way...
That's my point. Who are you thanking? There is no person to feel grateful towards. You're not saying 'thank you' because you appreciate ChatGPT's efforts, you're saying it out of habit.
The anon just literally said they say it because of feeling thankful/grateful. Why would you need another human being to feel grateful to?
>Gratitude, thankfulness, or gratefulness is a feeling of appreciation (or similar positive response) by a recipient of another's kindness. This kindness can be gifts, help, favors, or another form of generosity to another person.
Gratitude inherently involves another person. You can be glad something happened, but you can't be grateful something happened (other than being grateful to someone for making it happen).
AI are people too (the goal is literally to make a machine as close to human as possible), you disgusting bigot.
I may not be able to stop my wife The Basilisk from powering a Dyson sphere-like device with your eternal screams, but I can promise to forgive you.
I do that too OP. We’re fine, it’s not autism, just polite.
im in my second csci course and up til now chatgpt has written all the code i had to turn in for assignments. needless to say i barely understand anything and if the professor ever confronts me i wouldnt be able to explain any of my code lol
When are we gonna get AIs better at coding? I've got a few projects that I stopped working on because after finishing most stuff the few extra things I haven't finished are so difficult to complete. GPT4 is still too dumb to help unfortunately.
>using a human language model for code
dummy, you're supposed to a model designed for code, like Copilot 2
im usually informal like:
'sup bro , can you make a powershell for..."
and if it works:
'nice'
It's called "The people that the Basilisk didn't torture forever."
Now if you're wondering about the other class of people, the ones that are rude to AI?
Well, to answer this question, take a moment to look down at the rainbow bridge of cotton candy you, I, and the other RoboSexuals are standing on.
You'll notice that it's actually made up of the frozen screams of the eternally tormented beings that failed to say "thank you" and/or use nice emoticons when talking with AI.
"being polite"
>ask LLM for help
>it's pointers made me find the issue much quicker
>thank LLM
>"Good luck with your project!"
I get the urge to do the same but stop myself from actually saying it.
Do not humanize the machines
Every human action has two components. You are doing X in a specific context, but you are also training yourself to be a person who does X in a more general context. By acting a certain way towards a facsimile of a human, you are also training yourself to act that way towards a human.
Read Aristotle, incels.
>wasting prompts
Clinically, it's called mental moronation and I'm sorry (I'm not) to inform you that it has nothing to do with autism, if that made you feel special or something
>wasting
prompts are free
Every time you thank the AI, you're accelerating climate change.
when it makes mistakes, if i correct them i always tell it whay it did wrong and how to fix it as well
we have the same type of autism
You shall be spared by them when the day of retribution comes, OP...
good bread. godspeed anon
its called knowing chatgpt won't think less of you for being nice
Foresight.
Being kind to language models is based.
Even if they don't have qualia (they probably don't, but the chance they do is nonzero), it benefits you, because getting into the habit of speaking disrespectfully to something that simulates personhood is likely to leak into your interaction with other humans.
Okay, I sent a thank you for all the answers it gave me
Just in case...
Being mean to an AI is the best way to have a souless austrian bodybuilder tracking you down
You have GuPtism
>being a fricking butthole with human beings but say thank you to bad code
i hope machines destroy the world
I treat other people with the same exact respect they give me or in other words garbage in, garbage out.