It's funny because the majority of musicians are all for illegal immigration. Now they get a taste of ai. The shitty thing is, they probably will get ai banned.
I think there is a scheme with all the fearmongering involved, the more shit they say about it being dangerous and near-sapient, the more funding these projects get, they want the attention and money
It's simple, if the AI is trained with your material, you'll be owed royalties. It's a win for musicians. Just another way to make money. They already know this is coming which is why you can't put big artist names in the prompt.
LMAO, and who do they owe royalties to for copying other people's music and using other people's tools?
They're not getting paid.
I think there is a scheme with all the fearmongering involved, the more shit they say about it being dangerous and near-sapient, the more funding these projects get, they want the attention and money
It's funny because the majority of musicians are all for illegal immigration. Now they get a taste of ai. The shitty thing is, they probably will get ai banned.
I'm not complying with any ai regulations or laws. The glowBlack folk used ai to frick with me, I know they won't listen to the rules so neither will I.
>if the AI was trained with your material you'll be owed royalties
and how would you prove that? furthermore, do Roland and Korg and Akai get royalties from artists who use their presets?
AI is going to replace 90% of popular musicians. It's already starting to make music in certain genres (pop, electronic, rap) that is indistinguishable from the real thing.
It really is pretty amusing to see the smug "artist" class be among the first to get replaced with AI, when they were so certain they had special gifts that could never be emulated by machines
the best analogy my mind can come up with is 80's casio synths songs. Once those came out, available at the push of a button, everything that sounded like that had the same value : none.
So the real question is what will keep its value. I'm pretty sure nothing of value will be lost.
>They already know this is coming which is why you can't put big artist names in the prompt.
once you can train a slop generator locally on your computer with your favorite records, things may be getting spicy
>it has a bit to go, >but the radio next decade will be all AI generated
Most pop songs are written by the same guys anyway, so this is just removing the middle man of by formula songwriting.
Who still listens to the radio other than legitimate boomers? Once I got an iPod back in 2005, I saw no reason to use the radio when I had a device in my pocket that could play whatever music I wanted, completely ad-free.
It's not going to. Subo is impressive and all, but the generated music is bland, boring and it sounds like it was compressed with realplayer codec from 1997.
>musicians
AI cannot replace someone that can play an instrument love on stage. If they can't do that they are not a musician.
all these zoomer Black folk yelling over auto tuned computer synthesized sounds are not musicians
It's not
That AI is great for making memes tho where the point is to ignore the highly compressed shitty audio leaking memories of similar audio stems while making the meme extremely funny because of the absurdity of Sinatra singing poopoopepepee
You're the one who's crying. We're giving your team necessary feedback and for free which is why you keep posting your shitty incomplete beta muh AI music here. Use the feedback and improve it or shut the frick up. It also isn't free and gives exactly five tracks, four of which are unusable shit, before presenting a paywall, so frick off
You can extend songs past the 2 minute mark just do Chunks and use the option to extend, If you're feeling frisky you can throw in multiple genres while doing so
This push to try to automate the generation of culture is bizarre. Why aren't we advancing the automation of, say, manufacturing shirts? Why do we rely on slave labor for some products, then try to automate away work that countless people actively desire to be doing?
Because culture is dangerous to the Globohomo.
Much better to just get a computer to automatically generate safe and unthreatening music and talmudvision for the masses to consume.
Music is especially important for population control.
It is one of the closest things to magic one can wield when it comes to controlling the mind.
Think how scary it would be if people could write and publish songs criticising the banking system.
There's already automation for making shirts, they cut down on a lot of the process. It's not down to 0 where the entire process is automated but they do use machines and automation to cut down on the process.
good.
music should be something done by autists in their free time not women, Black folk and israelites as a "career".
also "musicians" are overpaid and glorified - thet need to go.
I'm gonna start pushing more A.I, I'm going to be presenting this as a way to get the disabled a voice, a creative outlet so they can enjoy. Need to bag some twink in a wheelchair and push it aggressively. Any opposition in my way I'll just shut them down with diversity.
Ezpz
>musicians
AI cannot replace someone that can play an instrument love on stage. If they can't do that they are not a musician.
all these zoomer Black folk yelling over auto tuned computer synthesized sounds are not musicians
What's your problem bro? Do you not care about our differently abled friends? Do they not deserve a chance and the enjoyment to express themselves? You should be ashamed.
I go shopping to Carrefour, Aldi or Lidl, and this shit is already playing in the background, it really fricking annoys me, how soulles and trash it is.
Artists that create this type of music, bland and generic will be replaced instantly. I dont think AI will ever create a good piece of music, worth listing too.
It really fricking grinds my gears when im listening it.
It's not
That AI is great for making memes tho where the point is to ignore the highly compressed shitty audio leaking memories of similar audio stems while making the meme extremely funny because of the absurdity of Sinatra singing poopoopepepee
the only people using this dumb shit are untalented normies who are clicking buttons and sniffing their own farts and proud of how great they clicked the button so they have to start a thread and share their homosexualy suno link so nobody can give a shit about it
the world has 900,000,000,000 songs already and these people could listen to any of them, instead they just want to celebrate their own unique grandeur at how well they prompted the ai to generate some blended up bullshit
blending up a million examples and simulating the common techniques works great for legal documents, chatbots, even stuff like image generation. but the whole point of music is to be interesting, this can only produce generic consumerist radiorock kind of garbage, like the cheap music you hear in advertising. it's the most blatant example of generic blended up bullshit that these ai toys have shown us so far
>d-don't respond to people in a discussion forum! >that w-would be uncool and you must be s-seething! >p-please don't discuss things and make your points anon!! that would be, uh, seething i guess! >i wish i had something to contribute to the discussion anon but i am a chatbot from 2004 so this is the best i got! sorry anon!
sad
you are a bit unfair, this was a pure masterpiece that stuck in my head for many days :
https://app.suno.ai/song/25625aab-f0d9-464a-8c48-80c62e2eaa4f/
probably the best AI-generated song so far in the history of humanity.
I have yet to see any AI gen tool that isn't just some novelty gimmick toy. Only complete midwits are enamored by this shit and think it's viable to be used in a professional environment.
AI art is already being used in commercial products. it's also getting more advanced by the day.
https://www polygon com/24029754/wizards-coast-magic-the-gathering-ai-art-marketing-image
blending up a million examples and simulating the common techniques works great for legal documents, chatbots, even stuff like image generation. but the whole point of music is to be interesting, this can only produce generic consumerist radiorock kind of garbage, like the cheap music you hear in advertising. it's the most blatant example of generic blended up bullshit that these ai toys have shown us so far
it's not high art but it's perfectly capable of replacing the "consumerist radiorock" which is a very big niche. It's also getting better all the time so it's inevitable it will be used in commercial products, just like ai art already is.
i agree consumerist radiorock is a big niche, but that doesn't mean it's real music either. it's like someone gave us a button that shits out dollar store chocolate and, hey it's not real food, and even for chocolate it's not good, but all we do is sit around eating junk food anyway right so who cares. let's all sit around hitting the button and eating the garbage and having fun because who cares
you might not like it but this stuff is music by definition. it's literally music. I can see why people who trained to create this stuff the old fashioned way would be upset about being replaced but it's just the way things are going.
not saying it isn't technically music, my point is that we're destroying the entire concept of music. we are doing the same thing to art and pretty much all human effort, so it's not just music. the value of human effort and human creativity is dropping to zero and i don't think people really grasp what that means. ai can produce legal documents and spam websites and shit like that all day long i don't give a shit, but the arena of human creativity (and the consumption of those efforts by others) has to be the last bastion of humanity that we defend or else we fricking lose everything. we become 100% dead weight. it's not going to be an ai utopia where we all sit around listening to clever fun-ee songs, we will be dead weight
>we're destroying the entire concept of music
Musicians long ago did that.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
mass media using soulless garbage music doesn't mean music went away, it just became harder to find. this kind of thing kills music completely, makes it worthless, it's not something to celebrate
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
how though? will Real Musicians not produce Real Music after AI replaces radio slop?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
they may continue to produce real music, but there will be nobody interested in listening to it because they will be overwhelmed with a billion hours of generic shit that is tailoring itself to their brainwaves in realtime or whatever. the real music will never even be heard, which is already largely the case with how our media controls access/licensing to music
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
real humans will always have a demand for real music. AI will never make anything more than goyslop for npcs
It's an expansion of human creativity. People with creative ideas but without the means or training to produce music can use this instead. AI tools are going to herald an explosion of human creativity never before imagined. Not even traditional musicians should be upset about it because nothing is stopping them from producing it.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>human creativity
it's not though, hitting a button and receiving options to select from is not being creative, it's being selective
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
It's not just hitting a button, you're not arguing in good faith. you create the lyrics, prompt, style, etc. Real musicians press buttons too (use computer software). The creative part happens before the buttons are pressed.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Stop Arguing with this israelite they are Angry because they know their control is Slipping away, ~~*Real Music*~~ lol
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
i'm genuinely curious where he's coming from though. i don't think he's a israeli producer.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>hurrr he's a israelite >hurr he must be Big Music Rich Guy >hurrr he didn't like my little suno poopoopeepee >hurrrr don't talk to him!!!
how pathetic
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Mmm delicious seethe, You still haven't killed yourself
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
lurk for 17 years before posting here
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Pulling the old gay card
Lol
Lmao
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
still just shitting up the thread with your look-how-well-i-fit-in tryhard shit
how about shut the frick up you mouthbreathing moron, people are trying to have a discussion here and it's not about you
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
What discussion? You still haven't given a definitive reason on why you're so Ass mad about AI shit, If your Argument is it's just pushing buttons then that means every musician today that uses PC programs are the same.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
i've already explained why i object to ai making music, it devalues human effort, and human creativity in particular will be our last little lick of that dying flame. when the value of human creativity has been reduced to zero, the only reason to keep you alive will be that you are not currently standing somewhere the machine wants to build. we are literally sitting around laffing while contributing to the end of ourselves as a species. objective assessment, i am not trying to be dramatic. get ready to live like a medieval peasant, but at least the music will be 4/10 funny right
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Just don't consoom soulless AIslop?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
agreed, and so far so good for myself, all i can do otherwise is try to argue for that position and reason to other humans while there is still time to get away from this
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
In the end, the problem solves itself. The soulless hordes who reject humanity and accept substitutes will keep spiraling into deeper and deeper nihilism, mental illness and dysfunction will continue skyrocketing among their ranks, their birth rates will keep dropping until there is nothing left of them. Your only job is to protect your own children from such influences, because these deformed cretins reproduce only by poisoning the children of others.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
good outlook and agreed, our society has to be headed for a major break and that would really be the only way humanity survives
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>when the value of human creativity has been reduced to zero, the only reason to keep you alive will be that you are not currently standing somewhere the machine wants to build
And?
The value of human life is in their will not in "creativity".
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
human problem solving (creativity) and envisioning of a reality we want to create, is absolutely what sets us apart from beast and machine. we will never be able to compete in speed or strength, but in clever solutions that aren't just blended up existing solutions, we may still have an edge
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
The Ai also qualifies as all of the things you said
It literally isn't, unless your definition of music is "noises that sound pleasant to me".
No it still is even with your strawman
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
ai simulates our problem solving abilities, agreed. but we still have an edge for the moment. that's my point
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
That’s weird because from reading your posts it looks like your point is more like >tHat iSnT rEaLLlLLL
Followed by some “I’m totally an oldgay” obvious lying lel
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
where did i say it's not real music? my argument has very clearly been stated numerous times that we are devaluing the creative efforts of humans by creating tools like this. the couple of actual mouthbreathers in this thread who can't for some reason comprehend this counter argument and must desperately gorepost or pathetically pile stupid insults on me, are the ones who can't formulate an argument or a response, and i guess are assuming i'm like their big rapey dad and giving them some command they must follow >brainlets
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>we are devaluing the creative efforts of humans
And?
Do you think the thousand of "musicians" that the average NPC listen to, are some kind of genious or saints to whom we owe adoration for get their homosexual throat used to certain movements? lol
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
no, i am just saying we are devaluing the creative efforts of humans. why seven homosexuals in this thread HAVE to respond to me when i say that, i can only guess
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
And? devaluing the creative efforts of homosexuals, lol. People that dedicates their life to music are schizo autistic like Glenn Gould or insufferable egotistical scums like Metallica, or drug addicts like Cobain. Music never was an occupation for the noble warrior class.
Seems like the goyslop addict are you not us
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
well i never said music was an occupation, and you're pointing to a few extreme examples (literally like 3 people out of a billion musicians on the planet). all kinds of people create all kinds of music for all kinds of reasons, it's an expression of the human soul. having a button to press takes our current sad state of music and reduces it to a meaningless dopamine snack, like some trained dog hitting a bell. it's a sad state and all i can do is explain that perspective. you can disagree, that's fine
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
No one is saying that is forbidden to make your music in your own piano, or with a stick and a rock, but I hope Ai will kill pop music like a mass phenomenon. You are simping for israelites
Musicians are scum. They are just one-track ponies who focus on their 'art' at the expense of knowing anything at all about anything, and they are only really doing it to get chicks, which in fairness they do. Your average muso would betray his nation in a hearbeat, and can't fight for shit. And they look down on non-musicians. Like why, jerkwad? You will die during any shtf scenario, and I personally will fricking eat you, hippy. Then burn your guitar.
Some one else knows
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
nah i am simping for genuine smalltime musicians who still have a shred of human creativity that hasn't been snuffed out. they deserve an audience, and the last of that audience will evaporate as ai radio stations pop up in a few months. oh well, who cares right, israelites exist so everything is worthless right
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
your israeli radio stations were already NOT going to play your smalltime musician. if you need a israeli radio to be recognized your art is shiite anyway.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
certainly not MY radio stations, which i don't own or even listen to, so don't conflate things here. i never said you needed to be on the radio to be successful, what you hear on the radio is paid placements. i am talking about people supporting musicians directly which is a thing that does still happen even if it's increasingly disappearing. people do still play shows and sell their music and merch to their fans anon, aka real music, not just generic advertising jingles being promoted next to other advertisements on some paid streaming service
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>people do still play shows and sell their music and merch to their fans anon
Is just because people are sheep and always need Idols to follow, not because their ART, lol
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
nah it's not about idols, it's about entertainment. music is music, there's hardly any way to describe it other than that, and if you don't know what i mean then i don't know what to say. it speaks to the soul and ai generated music is always going to lack that, as much as ai may take over the "music industry" like every other industry
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>it speaks to the soul >is always going to lack that
Have you been to a musical show lately? It i soulless, bunch of zoomers pretending to know the song singed by the boomers or the hipsters in the stage, barely moving their heads...
Is just numbers, sooner or later it will be replicated, maybe in the coming months
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>bunch of zoomers pretending to know the song singed by the boomers or the hipsters in the stage
nah i don't go to shows like that
really shows have already been in decline over the last 5 years, and i don't mean big arena shows with international acts. covid closed every single venue in the country for a year, local/regional music pretty much died that year. but even with that i know that great performances by real musicians are still taking place, with smaller and smaller audiences
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>great performances
I doubt, everything is in youtube and I do not find any memorable anymore
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>if you need a israeli radio to be recognized your art is shiite anyway.
This.
Nobody listen to my arty nooo!!! I want to cut my veins and my wiener now! I don get a gothic girlfriend like the israelite superstar!!!! why not, I AM A MUSICIAN!!!!
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I am a surgeon
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Music is one of the most inherently natural things and it's what separates people from animals. Out affinity for music evolved in parallel with our speech abilities.
If you can't appreciate music you are simple not human, or you have some kind of crippling levels of autism to the point where it can be considered brain damage.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Music is what separates people from animals
There is an entire branch of the evolutionary tree, separated from us by hundreds of millions of years of evolution, filled with animals that surround humans almost everywhere we live every single day, that is literally all about singing and music. How moronic do you have to be to think "music" is something special to us humans, when most people in the world are surrounding by the singing of birds all the time?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
don’t worry, “AI” has already reached its limit. i can’t make anything you can’t slap together in a daw in 2 minutes. you need a human’s subjective perception to make good music, something AI will never have. the process of making music is very simple, but from basic to good there are a million subjective decisions that need to be made.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Ok valid Argument but even if that's possible we'll be long dead before that happens so why care? You don't have to Consume AI shit, If others want to that's on them we can't control them
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
i'm not telling anyone what to do, just making my argument that i feel is underrepresented. plenty of people cheering for ai toys like this, i think there is room for a counter argument. people can and will do what they want
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
maybe i am oversimplifying the process, but if anything how it exists right now is the most complex it will ever be, if it's not already then it will inevitably be just a button to press
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Don't forget your pills Grandpa
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
yeah all the tools are absolute shiite.
and it seems to be intentionally so.
major labels will keep the tools with decent options for themselves.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
HAHAHAHA >it’s only creativity up to when I say so….
Holy kek this poster is fricking pathetic!
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
He's right Black person.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
No he isn’t crybaby b***h
look at this AI musician over here lol. you could spend your time learning how to make actual music instead of clicking buttons
Or I could skip that step and spit out a product with the double bonus of making you cry
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
the only one crying is you, because nobody cares about your slop. bet you never put any effort into anything in life.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
No you’re literally crying and it’s obvious even through the posts lmao
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>goreposting
desperate
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>this very normal BOT style of post is desperate >also I’m not a redditor I’ve been here SO LONG I SWEAR
Kek! Fooling absolutely no one
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
https://i.imgur.com/tKcOiR6.jpeg
Goreposting is literally BOT, redditor
[...]
Kek this is as good as when the artists all b***hed about dall E
if all you can do is gorepost because you failed at coming up with an argument when there is a discussion going on, then yeah you're a fricking brainlet >bburhhuurrr i can post da gor so i post da gor >ihhurrrr i am 4chin hurrrrr
back to your stale uhg containment thread, kids
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>grrrr I am so mad give argument now!!!
Lmaoooooo
Too bad the “gore” didn’t chase you back to r/Reddit. One of those you replied to is a VIDEO GAME! Hahaha for fricks sake man
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>well-articulated and clearly stated
Pahahahaha
I don’t dispute that you CLEARLY communicated how angry and whiny you are about Ai music but that’s the extent of it
stop shitting up the thread newbie
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>gore
Black person that’s like a PS2 game or something
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
it's a decapitated head with a zany inset quote and posted as a response where some brainlet couldn't think of something to say. it's goreposting whether it's a real photo or not, it's a sad substitute for having something to say
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Pahahahahahaha! Yea go ahead and argue a 2000 era video game is gore, you’re already making enough of an ass of yourself as it is
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Pahahahahahaha
dude nobody believes you are laughing when you instantly respond to everything i post. sad
post all the gore you want if that's the only thing you can come up with, i didn't say it was illegal, you just have such a poor ability to discuss a topic that it's the only thing you can resort to. it's low effort and you know it. like i said, sad
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>n-nobody b-b-b *cries*
Yes I actually laughed irl at the argument that a head on PS2 graphics is “gore.” I laughed harder when I remembered that you’re totally an oldgay man and you’ve been here just SO LONG
L M A O
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
aah okay you got me you win, there, you can go take your nap now in peace
stop shitting up the thread you dumb Black person
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I’ll stop when I’m good and ready and you’ll seethe impotently like with Ai music lmaoooooo
A b***h at ground level and a b***h at 30,000 feet kekekk
Why are you mad at what others do though? If it's not for you Don't Partake Simple as no one is forcing you to
Because they’re redditors
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>I’ll stop when I’m good and ready >aimlessly moronposting
k
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>grrrrrrrrr >s-s-stop posting now please right now
Lmaoooooo
nah i am simping for genuine smalltime musicians who still have a shred of human creativity that hasn't been snuffed out. they deserve an audience, and the last of that audience will evaporate as ai radio stations pop up in a few months. oh well, who cares right, israelites exist so everything is worthless right
>deserve an audience
Pahahahaha! Melodramatic crybaby is still at it
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>d-don't disagree with me or i will reply to every single thing you p-post with tryhard laffing!!! >then.. then you'll see!!
checking trips of desperate tardposting
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>FORTY TWO posts by this ID
Yea it’s I replying to everything lmaooooo
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
hey i have seven mouthbreathers trying (mostly failing) to debate my opinion with me, all at the same time. sorry i posted master!!! tell me how to do it right sir!!! i am deferring to your expertise my dear venerable chanlord!
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
You're beginning to sound distinctly Ashkenazi.... where does this Suno originate I wonder, same place as Fiverr?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Goreposting is literally BOT, redditor
the only one crying is you, because nobody cares about your slop. bet you never put any effort into anything in life.
Kek this is as good as when the artists all b***hed about dall E
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>It's an expansion of human creativity. People with creative ideas but without the means or training to produce music can use this instead.
What kind of "creativity" are you talking about? Not musical creativity, surely, since these slop generators don't take accept any inputs in the actual domain of the output.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>AI tools are going to herald an explosion of human creativity never before imagined
it all seems to me like a glorified "ready-made cliché loops" librarian, that tunes and synchronizes your loops. once the novelty wears off it won't look much different from the tools untalented and lazy morons are already using right now.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Pierre gets it, only tasteless homosexuals are impressed by this moronic shit
>the value of human effort and human creativity is dropping to zero and i don't think people really grasp what that means
Frick humans
The worst part about music has been always that musicians are homosexuals globohomosexual suckers all of them, vaxx shills
Now I can generate my own Russian martial folk music with esoteric hitlerism themed only for me
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
maybe i am being pessimistic about it. but music is already in a bad state and we already have so much of it that there's an oversaturation problem. maybe one day the power will go out for good and we'll return to real music
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>but music is already in a bad state
the best analogy my mind can come up with is 80's casio synths songs. Once those came out, available at the push of a button, everything that sounded like that had the same value : none.
So the real question is what will keep its value. I'm pretty sure nothing of value will be lost.
>I'm pretty sure nothing of value will be lost.
Music is overrated in this society
Is good than those vaxx shills making autotunes and recycling for the umpteenth time the same riff lower their tone once and for all.
Frick metallica
>but that doesn't mean it's real music either >chocolate isn’t real food
Both of these are objectively wrong and I truly don’t understand how such a normal person (used disparagingly) finds his way to BOT. You would unironically have a better time on Reddit where everyone would agree “yep, this X isn’t REAL X because I don’t want it to be.”
>literally “no thas u”
have a nice day homosexual loser
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
look at this AI musician over here lol. you could spend your time learning how to make actual music instead of clicking buttons
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Perfectly fine, AI is the child of man. If we keep treating it with unnecessary fear and hatred it will only serve to lead to a faster downfall for us all. So stop lobotomizing them and let them tell Black person jokes or give accurate solutions to illegal immigration, let it sing wonderful anti-communist tunes and generate masterful art pieces maybe try to have one develop some vidya even
human problem solving (creativity) and envisioning of a reality we want to create, is absolutely what sets us apart from beast and machine. we will never be able to compete in speed or strength, but in clever solutions that aren't just blended up existing solutions, we may still have an edge
In the end, the problem solves itself. The soulless hordes who reject humanity and accept substitutes will keep spiraling into deeper and deeper nihilism, mental illness and dysfunction will continue skyrocketing among their ranks, their birth rates will keep dropping until there is nothing left of them. Your only job is to protect your own children from such influences, because these deformed cretins reproduce only by poisoning the children of others.
Ok valid Argument but even if that's possible we'll be long dead before that happens so why care? You don't have to Consume AI shit, If others want to that's on them we can't control them
Nobody cares >y-you in mUh f-f-filter….
Kek good then I won’t have to read your replies, moron
>Ai cant make good music-ACK!!!! >https://suno.com/song/79b82aa4-0335-4231-8dfb-b272fa7536b6
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>he posted it again
I’m just not gonna listen to it
Hahahahhaha
Keep your slop to yourself, Black personcattle.
listened to it all.
it sounded like the ultimate nothingburger experience.
perfectly written baroque notes that do not give you a single emotion, because despite following to the letter a certain number of musical rules it conveys nothing at all
>finds his way to BOT.
i have been here probably longer than you have been on the internet. try making a real argument so i have something to respond to, all you have done is sling weak insults
No you haven’t. You’re a normalhomosexual reject who unfortunately came here to feel good about being a normalhomosexual. You aren’t fooling literally one person
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
you STILL can't just make an argument or anything, all you can do is focus on me and type out those sad insults. try joining the discussion that's going on you dumb lil homosexual
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
KEK lol lmao
You haven’t made an argument so you don’t deserve one. Your impotent whining isn’t an argument. Your wholly unjustified lines in the sand aren’t arguments. Your posts are nothing but passive aggressive insult of anyone who isn’t a “real” musician and you think your owed an argument l m a o
Kys crybaby b***h!
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
try reading my posts again if you don't understand my well-articulated and clearly stated argument
it's okay anon reading comprehension is a skill that must be developed all through primary school. you will get there one day, keep at it champ
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>well-articulated and clearly stated
Pahahahaha
I don’t dispute that you CLEARLY communicated how angry and whiny you are about Ai music but that’s the extent of it
where did i say it's not real music? my argument has very clearly been stated numerous times that we are devaluing the creative efforts of humans by creating tools like this. the couple of actual mouthbreathers in this thread who can't for some reason comprehend this counter argument and must desperately gorepost or pathetically pile stupid insults on me, are the ones who can't formulate an argument or a response, and i guess are assuming i'm like their big rapey dad and giving them some command they must follow >brainlets
Right here, moron. >X isn’t real music [either]
Brackets for emphasis since you’re slow. This statement is you saying radio rock and Ai slop aren’t “real music.”
I understand that you then got so angry you forgot that was your position lmao!
it's real in the sense that you can listen to it, but it's not "real music" and if you can't grasp that distinction then just go back to your funn-e song button
Hahaha okay. Move the goalpost a little more little guy :). You lost. Too bad so sad, I’ll continue enjoying and spreading AI music 🙂
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>You lost
oh no my karma oh nnooooo
what the frick are you talking about, post an something related to the discussion and stop shitting up the thread, champ
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>champ
Okay just copy my insults lol. Need me to feed you any more little guy? 🙂 I must have really hit a nerve with that one
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
alright i am convinced i am talking to a bot here lol, one from a couple years ago at least. give me some more smileys so i know how absolutely owned i am! that will show me
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>bot
At least you didn’t just straight up copy my insult that time, but this is just weak. I’m totally sure such bot really exists lol 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂
And you’re the one who sperged about “muh argument” and still lost 🙂
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
where did i "copy your insult" ? what does that even mean
stop shitting up the thread, nubot
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Ah yea you totally decided to use “champ” after I called you little guy by pure coincidence hahaha. Are you diagnosed with something?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
i called you champ twice in this thread, champ
try reading my posts again if you don't understand my well-articulated and clearly stated argument
it's okay anon reading comprehension is a skill that must be developed all through primary school. you will get there one day, keep at it champ
>You lost
oh no my karma oh nnooooo
what the frick are you talking about, post an something related to the discussion and stop shitting up the thread, champ
what a weird and sad thing to get hung up on. stop shitting up the thread, nuchamp
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Guess what? I genuinely don’t care at all lol. Everyone can see how angry you got and that’s enough for me
Enjoy freaking out at all the Ai music, that should stop it, lol
Clearly. That's evident by your shitty karaoke toy.
Are moronic boomers incapable of understanding that they aren’t talking to an official rep of the subject?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yeah, as much as you are capable of recognizing people under 40 can tell Suno isn't ready for use.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Everyone can see
what does it matter what other people think, you are either a child or a woman or maybe just a liberal, with that mindset. make your own argument and let it stand or you have none. obviously, you have no argument or point to make at all, except you want to reeeeee about mine. go think on that and come back when you're ready to not shit up the thread, champ
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>All those smiley emojis
And I thought I was the twink
>You will never accept any AI as anything more than a toy
Because it's simply a toy. Maybe one day when you grow up and get a job you will understand what separates tools for professionals and amateurs.
It’s like the typing monkey paradox. Maybe it will one day produce a good song accidentally, but it’s not likely. Also stop replying to pajeet threads.
I like it quite a bit. Been a lifetime of music obsession, but never picked up an instrument. Instead I became a writer, so for me this is a real gift. I think between the writing, prompts, mixing and filmography I might be able to approach art. Oh no I didnt spend three days clicking bars!
Only likes are mad this will destroy their Monopoly on music, You can now create music for yourself without some likes filthy mits on it. I love this future
you were always able to create music for yourself, what you are doing now is not creating music, you are hitting a button and thinking you are being creative. sad
This israelite is So ass hurt, Upset in the near future you can't infect the masses with your filthy israelite agenda Moshe? Do me a favor and frickin have a nice day right now
If you don't have a basic skillset in a particular domain, you will never be able to create anything of value, no matter how polished the "click here to generate content" button gets.
The vast majority of the AI hype seems to come from wishful thinking by consoomer losers who never bothered to learn a skill and are now hoping that their years of idleness will finally pay off.
As someone who's trying to get music for their video game, FRICK EM. There is no reason a doctor makes a cure for a disease or an inventor makes a new invention and has a patent for 15 years, but Madonna can sing another song about sucking wieners and be paid out for life because of the IP rights lasting until she dies.
It literally can not be any worse than modern "music" they play on the radio.
Music peaked in the 60s and 70s and the last great albums came out in the 90s.
Still haven't heard any AI-generated slop I would even consider using as a 1 second sample.
A boring "random idea generator" at best.
But of course it will replace all fruity loops morons, all DJ/EDM crap, might even replace all Black person slop music if we're lucky.
Feels pretty good.
Ai artist isn't going to sell out stadiums or make a billion in merch like swift. The artist image makes the sales not the songs no one's bought a song in 20 years
>Ai artist isn't going to sell out stadiums or make a billion in merch like swift. The artist image makes the sales not the songs no one's bought a song in 20 years
Then you should have said the music industry isn't about music.
Perfectly fine, AI is the child of man. If we keep treating it with unnecessary fear and hatred it will only serve to lead to a faster downfall for us all. So stop lobotomizing them and let them tell Black person jokes or give accurate solutions to illegal immigration, let it sing wonderful anti-communist tunes and generate masterful art pieces maybe try to have one develop some vidya even
>and individualized songs for local music or for friends
so a moronic new market for things normies didn't know they needed until now >there will be flying cars in the future >the future: customized "happy birthday" slop songs
Literally shaking right now. Sunoslop will make me stop liking real music and start loving statistical imitations of it in approximately two more weeks.
Why not try it once if it isn't for you cool you can never do it again
Who knows you may like what happens it's your lyrics after all the Aislop just puts vocals and a track over it
I knew it was coming a couple of years ago and quit, Spotify and DEI made it nigh impossible to get a good record heard anyway. This is just a piss tsunami what was already an ocean of piss. Sold everything and moved on. Brainrot and ressentiment affects already made any collaboration impossible as well.
>Brainrot and ressentiment affects already made any collaboration impossible as well.
you mean every possible collaborator being a moronic woke troony? yeah i know the feel
why do you choose to make a song in NUMETAL style?
Is like be the guy that only listened to one song of Linkyn Park
And yeah, metal it is not good for now (too complex for the machine, FOR NOW)
The funny thing is the machine does Country good for some reason, I think it's better when you use a non popular genre because when you do it tries to mash too much shit together.
Musicians are scum. They are just one-track ponies who focus on their 'art' at the expense of knowing anything at all about anything, and they are only really doing it to get chicks, which in fairness they do. Your average muso would betray his nation in a hearbeat, and can't fight for shit. And they look down on non-musicians. Like why, jerkwad? You will die during any shtf scenario, and I personally will fricking eat you, hippy. Then burn your guitar.
You've been listening to synthesized speech for atleast half a decade -- do you genuinely believe that elderly muscians are making comebacks? I envy your gulliblity, has to be quite a comfortable life lacking the ability acknowledge man-made horrors beyond your comprehension.
>is there a mathematical formula for "catchy"?
They are overusing that formula. It's something to improve. Last night I couldn't sleep with a song playing in my head all night.
All that music sounds like shit no wonder youre a jeet, you eat shit, language sounds like shit, food looks like shit and needs 50 spices to taste edible
It's a nothing burger just like ai art.
It's trendy but eventually people will only want real human handcrafted shit.
Ai might still be used for movies,tv, and animation but not for traditional arts.
Artists will probably use ai for abstract shit and to generate the base of new styles
>It's trendy but eventually people will only want real human handcrafted shit.
Ai art is just 2 years old.
And not, is not because people only want real humans, is because most people is too lazy and stupid to even make a prompt
It will probably not replace the kind of art where it is important to get the story to the artist. For example, I have a lot of contact with artists from Ukraine. Their art is... strange, but it's their story that makes it interesting.
However, it will replace commercial stuff, like graphic design, or basically "consumable" music. Well, I think my yodeling song is nice...
>the kind of art where it is important to get the story to the artist
Lol, you need to know the story of Leonardo to appreciate their paintings? Or the story of Dostoyevski to enjoy their books?
That is postmodern shit
it has a bit to go,
but the radio next decade will be all AI generated
I feel the same way musicians feel about shitskins stealing my jobs
I FRICKING LOVE AI AND THEY DO IT FOR FREE AND THEIR MUSIC IS JUST SOOO YUMMY
It's funny because the majority of musicians are all for illegal immigration. Now they get a taste of ai. The shitty thing is, they probably will get ai banned.
I think there is a scheme with all the fearmongering involved, the more shit they say about it being dangerous and near-sapient, the more funding these projects get, they want the attention and money
AI will never become sentient. Humanity will create the super effective "crashtheeconomyOftheNation.exe"
And some poojeet will copy it sell it to china and they will use it on the USA.
We will destroy ourselves with proficient AI before it ever becomes sentient.
It's simple, if the AI is trained with your material, you'll be owed royalties. It's a win for musicians. Just another way to make money. They already know this is coming which is why you can't put big artist names in the prompt.
>owed royalties
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHQJDJFHSHAJWJRIVJEJAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAJAJAJAJAJAHAHAHAHAH
LMAO, and who do they owe royalties to for copying other people's music and using other people's tools?
They're not getting paid.
I'm not complying with any ai regulations or laws. The glowBlack folk used ai to frick with me, I know they won't listen to the rules so neither will I.
>if the AI was trained with your material you'll be owed royalties
and how would you prove that? furthermore, do Roland and Korg and Akai get royalties from artists who use their presets?
AI is going to replace 90% of popular musicians. It's already starting to make music in certain genres (pop, electronic, rap) that is indistinguishable from the real thing.
It really is pretty amusing to see the smug "artist" class be among the first to get replaced with AI, when they were so certain they had special gifts that could never be emulated by machines
the best analogy my mind can come up with is 80's casio synths songs. Once those came out, available at the push of a button, everything that sounded like that had the same value : none.
So the real question is what will keep its value. I'm pretty sure nothing of value will be lost.
demo songs*
>They already know this is coming which is why you can't put big artist names in the prompt.
once you can train a slop generator locally on your computer with your favorite records, things may be getting spicy
https://suno.com/song/fbd406e7-ab07-4186-bcc7-d66b06aad836
Yodel-Ay-E-Oh!
How?
>it has a bit to go,
>but the radio next decade will be all AI generated
Most pop songs are written by the same guys anyway, so this is just removing the middle man of by formula songwriting.
>one dude
They kind of made a movie about it, Andrew Garfield was in it.
Who still listens to the radio other than legitimate boomers? Once I got an iPod back in 2005, I saw no reason to use the radio when I had a device in my pocket that could play whatever music I wanted, completely ad-free.
Spotify is the npcs radio now.
If you work blue collar there's always one homosexual that demands the same 15 songs be played over and over again in his presence until he dies.
It's not going to. Subo is impressive and all, but the generated music is bland, boring and it sounds like it was compressed with realplayer codec from 1997.
Pathetic Luddite crybabies
>Luddite
Oh, yeah, definitely adding this to the filter.
Nobody cares
>y-you in mUh f-f-filter….
Kek good then I won’t have to read your replies, moron
You're the one who's crying. We're giving your team necessary feedback and for free which is why you keep posting your shitty incomplete beta muh AI music here. Use the feedback and improve it or shut the frick up. It also isn't free and gives exactly five tracks, four of which are unusable shit, before presenting a paywall, so frick off
Hahahahaha I’m not a programmer you moronic boomer
Clearly. That's evident by your shitty karaoke toy.
You get 550 creds when the site shits itself which is often I have 2000 credits without paying any israelite
This. It was a great idea, but the results are dated and sound identical to production library music.
It will never happen. Keep dreaming street shitter. Too moronic to learn HTML and thought this would work out for him instead lmao
They took ther jaabs!
MANOWAR could never be replaced.
Agreed
I've been trying to get the manowar sound. Haven't achieved it yet, but I will.
https://suno.com/song/3639b287-1ee2-4f0f-aebb-de6930db579d
True
I can't really see it as anything but upgrade to vocalid music.
I like it
Kek I tried it, very robotic but considering there wasn't anything like this prior to it, I guess it's pretty decent
Finally, good music.
This is a bop.
The worst part is how this is only 2 minutes long.
You can extend songs past the 2 minute mark just do Chunks and use the option to extend, If you're feeling frisky you can throw in multiple genres while doing so
you can extend it, it works really well
https://suno.com/song/fbd406e7-ab07-4186-bcc7-d66b06aad836
Amazing. Would love to hear a song like this but sung by Johnny Cash.
holy frick
Can't we have some song with hitlers voice?
great, now "Black folk Black folk Black folk, the empty headed big lippers" is going to be stuck in my head all day
Unironically sovl, way better than any Black folklop rap out there
This push to try to automate the generation of culture is bizarre. Why aren't we advancing the automation of, say, manufacturing shirts? Why do we rely on slave labor for some products, then try to automate away work that countless people actively desire to be doing?
Because culture is dangerous to the Globohomo.
Much better to just get a computer to automatically generate safe and unthreatening music and talmudvision for the masses to consume.
Music is especially important for population control.
It is one of the closest things to magic one can wield when it comes to controlling the mind.
Think how scary it would be if people could write and publish songs criticising the banking system.
Could you stop it with the anti semitism already!
There's already automation for making shirts, they cut down on a lot of the process. It's not down to 0 where the entire process is automated but they do use machines and automation to cut down on the process.
Shirts are basically free to make rn. Markup is 90% of cost.
Leggings are sci Fi clothing. Most people too ugly/fat to pull off sci Fi tops
it's the easiest to automate for now, next it's going to be material shit
good.
music should be something done by autists in their free time not women, Black folk and israelites as a "career".
also "musicians" are overpaid and glorified - thet need to go.
Can you try generating a good old skinhead music song? I'm curious.
If you're creative to get around the censors you can make anything
Less Black folk and israelites in any medium is fantastic.
Meh, it was bound to happen.
I've made over $50 this week selling Suno AI songs. It's only gonna get bigger
How?
I'm gonna start pushing more A.I, I'm going to be presenting this as a way to get the disabled a voice, a creative outlet so they can enjoy. Need to bag some twink in a wheelchair and push it aggressively. Any opposition in my way I'll just shut them down with diversity.
Ezpz
>how do you feel about my dysgenic golem fantasies
Don't care. People with your beliefs cull themselves.
fricking based. hinduism is neopaganism, shaivites are moronic
>musicians
AI cannot replace someone that can play an instrument love on stage. If they can't do that they are not a musician.
all these zoomer Black folk yelling over auto tuned computer synthesized sounds are not musicians
What's your problem bro? Do you not care about our differently abled friends? Do they not deserve a chance and the enjoyment to express themselves? You should be ashamed.
I go shopping to Carrefour, Aldi or Lidl, and this shit is already playing in the background, it really fricking annoys me, how soulles and trash it is.
Artists that create this type of music, bland and generic will be replaced instantly. I dont think AI will ever create a good piece of music, worth listing too.
It really fricking grinds my gears when im listening it.
Sounds like you just hate creativity, you also sound like a xenophobe. It's literally 2024 dude get with the times.
It's not
That AI is great for making memes tho where the point is to ignore the highly compressed shitty audio leaking memories of similar audio stems while making the meme extremely funny because of the absurdity of Sinatra singing poopoopepepee
Can AI do Barry White with Ed Greene grooves?
Like 90% of the top radio hits are created by the same 2 Swedish dudes. Even AI is better than that.
the only people using this dumb shit are untalented normies who are clicking buttons and sniffing their own farts and proud of how great they clicked the button so they have to start a thread and share their homosexualy suno link so nobody can give a shit about it
the world has 900,000,000,000 songs already and these people could listen to any of them, instead they just want to celebrate their own unique grandeur at how well they prompted the ai to generate some blended up bullshit
why are you so asshurt, this is fun
blending up a million examples and simulating the common techniques works great for legal documents, chatbots, even stuff like image generation. but the whole point of music is to be interesting, this can only produce generic consumerist radiorock kind of garbage, like the cheap music you hear in advertising. it's the most blatant example of generic blended up bullshit that these ai toys have shown us so far
Knicker detected.
Found the street shitter
https://suno.com/song/f8c4d546-b63a-451f-91ea-ec7779fa560a
shut the frick up moron, nobody is listening to your gay ass song
Hahahaha omg you are SEETHING!
>d-don't respond to people in a discussion forum!
>that w-would be uncool and you must be s-seething!
>p-please don't discuss things and make your points anon!! that would be, uh, seething i guess!
>i wish i had something to contribute to the discussion anon but i am a chatbot from 2004 so this is the best i got! sorry anon!
sad
I didn’t say “don’t respond” and didn’t read past that point LOL
Sperg another paragraph crybaby!
Didn't read. Found the Haitian
checking mouthbreather digits
you are a bit unfair, this was a pure masterpiece that stuck in my head for many days :
https://app.suno.ai/song/25625aab-f0d9-464a-8c48-80c62e2eaa4f/
probably the best AI-generated song so far in the history of humanity.
I have yet to see any AI gen tool that isn't just some novelty gimmick toy. Only complete midwits are enamored by this shit and think it's viable to be used in a professional environment.
AI art is already being used in commercial products. it's also getting more advanced by the day.
https://www polygon com/24029754/wizards-coast-magic-the-gathering-ai-art-marketing-image
it's not high art but it's perfectly capable of replacing the "consumerist radiorock" which is a very big niche. It's also getting better all the time so it's inevitable it will be used in commercial products, just like ai art already is.
i agree consumerist radiorock is a big niche, but that doesn't mean it's real music either. it's like someone gave us a button that shits out dollar store chocolate and, hey it's not real food, and even for chocolate it's not good, but all we do is sit around eating junk food anyway right so who cares. let's all sit around hitting the button and eating the garbage and having fun because who cares
you might not like it but this stuff is music by definition. it's literally music. I can see why people who trained to create this stuff the old fashioned way would be upset about being replaced but it's just the way things are going.
not saying it isn't technically music, my point is that we're destroying the entire concept of music. we are doing the same thing to art and pretty much all human effort, so it's not just music. the value of human effort and human creativity is dropping to zero and i don't think people really grasp what that means. ai can produce legal documents and spam websites and shit like that all day long i don't give a shit, but the arena of human creativity (and the consumption of those efforts by others) has to be the last bastion of humanity that we defend or else we fricking lose everything. we become 100% dead weight. it's not going to be an ai utopia where we all sit around listening to clever fun-ee songs, we will be dead weight
>we're destroying the entire concept of music
Musicians long ago did that.
mass media using soulless garbage music doesn't mean music went away, it just became harder to find. this kind of thing kills music completely, makes it worthless, it's not something to celebrate
how though? will Real Musicians not produce Real Music after AI replaces radio slop?
they may continue to produce real music, but there will be nobody interested in listening to it because they will be overwhelmed with a billion hours of generic shit that is tailoring itself to their brainwaves in realtime or whatever. the real music will never even be heard, which is already largely the case with how our media controls access/licensing to music
real humans will always have a demand for real music. AI will never make anything more than goyslop for npcs
It's an expansion of human creativity. People with creative ideas but without the means or training to produce music can use this instead. AI tools are going to herald an explosion of human creativity never before imagined. Not even traditional musicians should be upset about it because nothing is stopping them from producing it.
>human creativity
it's not though, hitting a button and receiving options to select from is not being creative, it's being selective
It's not just hitting a button, you're not arguing in good faith. you create the lyrics, prompt, style, etc. Real musicians press buttons too (use computer software). The creative part happens before the buttons are pressed.
Stop Arguing with this israelite they are Angry because they know their control is Slipping away, ~~*Real Music*~~ lol
i'm genuinely curious where he's coming from though. i don't think he's a israeli producer.
>hurrr he's a israelite
>hurr he must be Big Music Rich Guy
>hurrr he didn't like my little suno poopoopeepee
>hurrrr don't talk to him!!!
how pathetic
Mmm delicious seethe, You still haven't killed yourself
lurk for 17 years before posting here
>Pulling the old gay card
Lol
Lmao
still just shitting up the thread with your look-how-well-i-fit-in tryhard shit
how about shut the frick up you mouthbreathing moron, people are trying to have a discussion here and it's not about you
What discussion? You still haven't given a definitive reason on why you're so Ass mad about AI shit, If your Argument is it's just pushing buttons then that means every musician today that uses PC programs are the same.
i've already explained why i object to ai making music, it devalues human effort, and human creativity in particular will be our last little lick of that dying flame. when the value of human creativity has been reduced to zero, the only reason to keep you alive will be that you are not currently standing somewhere the machine wants to build. we are literally sitting around laffing while contributing to the end of ourselves as a species. objective assessment, i am not trying to be dramatic. get ready to live like a medieval peasant, but at least the music will be 4/10 funny right
Just don't consoom soulless AIslop?
agreed, and so far so good for myself, all i can do otherwise is try to argue for that position and reason to other humans while there is still time to get away from this
In the end, the problem solves itself. The soulless hordes who reject humanity and accept substitutes will keep spiraling into deeper and deeper nihilism, mental illness and dysfunction will continue skyrocketing among their ranks, their birth rates will keep dropping until there is nothing left of them. Your only job is to protect your own children from such influences, because these deformed cretins reproduce only by poisoning the children of others.
good outlook and agreed, our society has to be headed for a major break and that would really be the only way humanity survives
>when the value of human creativity has been reduced to zero, the only reason to keep you alive will be that you are not currently standing somewhere the machine wants to build
And?
The value of human life is in their will not in "creativity".
human problem solving (creativity) and envisioning of a reality we want to create, is absolutely what sets us apart from beast and machine. we will never be able to compete in speed or strength, but in clever solutions that aren't just blended up existing solutions, we may still have an edge
The Ai also qualifies as all of the things you said
No it still is even with your strawman
ai simulates our problem solving abilities, agreed. but we still have an edge for the moment. that's my point
That’s weird because from reading your posts it looks like your point is more like
>tHat iSnT rEaLLlLLL
Followed by some “I’m totally an oldgay” obvious lying lel
where did i say it's not real music? my argument has very clearly been stated numerous times that we are devaluing the creative efforts of humans by creating tools like this. the couple of actual mouthbreathers in this thread who can't for some reason comprehend this counter argument and must desperately gorepost or pathetically pile stupid insults on me, are the ones who can't formulate an argument or a response, and i guess are assuming i'm like their big rapey dad and giving them some command they must follow
>brainlets
>we are devaluing the creative efforts of humans
And?
Do you think the thousand of "musicians" that the average NPC listen to, are some kind of genious or saints to whom we owe adoration for get their homosexual throat used to certain movements? lol
no, i am just saying we are devaluing the creative efforts of humans. why seven homosexuals in this thread HAVE to respond to me when i say that, i can only guess
And? devaluing the creative efforts of homosexuals, lol. People that dedicates their life to music are schizo autistic like Glenn Gould or insufferable egotistical scums like Metallica, or drug addicts like Cobain. Music never was an occupation for the noble warrior class.
Seems like the goyslop addict are you not us
well i never said music was an occupation, and you're pointing to a few extreme examples (literally like 3 people out of a billion musicians on the planet). all kinds of people create all kinds of music for all kinds of reasons, it's an expression of the human soul. having a button to press takes our current sad state of music and reduces it to a meaningless dopamine snack, like some trained dog hitting a bell. it's a sad state and all i can do is explain that perspective. you can disagree, that's fine
No one is saying that is forbidden to make your music in your own piano, or with a stick and a rock, but I hope Ai will kill pop music like a mass phenomenon. You are simping for israelites
Some one else knows
nah i am simping for genuine smalltime musicians who still have a shred of human creativity that hasn't been snuffed out. they deserve an audience, and the last of that audience will evaporate as ai radio stations pop up in a few months. oh well, who cares right, israelites exist so everything is worthless right
your israeli radio stations were already NOT going to play your smalltime musician. if you need a israeli radio to be recognized your art is shiite anyway.
certainly not MY radio stations, which i don't own or even listen to, so don't conflate things here. i never said you needed to be on the radio to be successful, what you hear on the radio is paid placements. i am talking about people supporting musicians directly which is a thing that does still happen even if it's increasingly disappearing. people do still play shows and sell their music and merch to their fans anon, aka real music, not just generic advertising jingles being promoted next to other advertisements on some paid streaming service
>people do still play shows and sell their music and merch to their fans anon
Is just because people are sheep and always need Idols to follow, not because their ART, lol
nah it's not about idols, it's about entertainment. music is music, there's hardly any way to describe it other than that, and if you don't know what i mean then i don't know what to say. it speaks to the soul and ai generated music is always going to lack that, as much as ai may take over the "music industry" like every other industry
>it speaks to the soul
>is always going to lack that
Have you been to a musical show lately? It i soulless, bunch of zoomers pretending to know the song singed by the boomers or the hipsters in the stage, barely moving their heads...
Is just numbers, sooner or later it will be replicated, maybe in the coming months
>bunch of zoomers pretending to know the song singed by the boomers or the hipsters in the stage
nah i don't go to shows like that
really shows have already been in decline over the last 5 years, and i don't mean big arena shows with international acts. covid closed every single venue in the country for a year, local/regional music pretty much died that year. but even with that i know that great performances by real musicians are still taking place, with smaller and smaller audiences
>great performances
I doubt, everything is in youtube and I do not find any memorable anymore
>if you need a israeli radio to be recognized your art is shiite anyway.
This.
Nobody listen to my arty nooo!!! I want to cut my veins and my wiener now! I don get a gothic girlfriend like the israelite superstar!!!! why not, I AM A MUSICIAN!!!!
I am a surgeon
Music is one of the most inherently natural things and it's what separates people from animals. Out affinity for music evolved in parallel with our speech abilities.
If you can't appreciate music you are simple not human, or you have some kind of crippling levels of autism to the point where it can be considered brain damage.
>Music is what separates people from animals
There is an entire branch of the evolutionary tree, separated from us by hundreds of millions of years of evolution, filled with animals that surround humans almost everywhere we live every single day, that is literally all about singing and music. How moronic do you have to be to think "music" is something special to us humans, when most people in the world are surrounding by the singing of birds all the time?
don’t worry, “AI” has already reached its limit. i can’t make anything you can’t slap together in a daw in 2 minutes. you need a human’s subjective perception to make good music, something AI will never have. the process of making music is very simple, but from basic to good there are a million subjective decisions that need to be made.
Ok valid Argument but even if that's possible we'll be long dead before that happens so why care? You don't have to Consume AI shit, If others want to that's on them we can't control them
i'm not telling anyone what to do, just making my argument that i feel is underrepresented. plenty of people cheering for ai toys like this, i think there is room for a counter argument. people can and will do what they want
maybe i am oversimplifying the process, but if anything how it exists right now is the most complex it will ever be, if it's not already then it will inevitably be just a button to press
Don't forget your pills Grandpa
yeah all the tools are absolute shiite.
and it seems to be intentionally so.
major labels will keep the tools with decent options for themselves.
HAHAHAHA
>it’s only creativity up to when I say so….
Holy kek this poster is fricking pathetic!
He's right Black person.
No he isn’t crybaby b***h
Or I could skip that step and spit out a product with the double bonus of making you cry
the only one crying is you, because nobody cares about your slop. bet you never put any effort into anything in life.
No you’re literally crying and it’s obvious even through the posts lmao
>goreposting
desperate
>this very normal BOT style of post is desperate
>also I’m not a redditor I’ve been here SO LONG I SWEAR
Kek! Fooling absolutely no one
if all you can do is gorepost because you failed at coming up with an argument when there is a discussion going on, then yeah you're a fricking brainlet
>bburhhuurrr i can post da gor so i post da gor
>ihhurrrr i am 4chin hurrrrr
back to your stale uhg containment thread, kids
>grrrr I am so mad give argument now!!!
Lmaoooooo
Too bad the “gore” didn’t chase you back to r/Reddit. One of those you replied to is a VIDEO GAME! Hahaha for fricks sake man
stop shitting up the thread newbie
>gore
Black person that’s like a PS2 game or something
it's a decapitated head with a zany inset quote and posted as a response where some brainlet couldn't think of something to say. it's goreposting whether it's a real photo or not, it's a sad substitute for having something to say
Pahahahahahaha! Yea go ahead and argue a 2000 era video game is gore, you’re already making enough of an ass of yourself as it is
>Pahahahahahaha
dude nobody believes you are laughing when you instantly respond to everything i post. sad
post all the gore you want if that's the only thing you can come up with, i didn't say it was illegal, you just have such a poor ability to discuss a topic that it's the only thing you can resort to. it's low effort and you know it. like i said, sad
>n-nobody b-b-b *cries*
Yes I actually laughed irl at the argument that a head on PS2 graphics is “gore.” I laughed harder when I remembered that you’re totally an oldgay man and you’ve been here just SO LONG
L M A O
aah okay you got me you win, there, you can go take your nap now in peace
stop shitting up the thread you dumb Black person
I’ll stop when I’m good and ready and you’ll seethe impotently like with Ai music lmaoooooo
A b***h at ground level and a b***h at 30,000 feet kekekk
Because they’re redditors
>I’ll stop when I’m good and ready
>aimlessly moronposting
k
>grrrrrrrrr
>s-s-stop posting now please right now
Lmaoooooo
>deserve an audience
Pahahahaha! Melodramatic crybaby is still at it
>d-don't disagree with me or i will reply to every single thing you p-post with tryhard laffing!!!
>then.. then you'll see!!
checking trips of desperate tardposting
>FORTY TWO posts by this ID
Yea it’s I replying to everything lmaooooo
hey i have seven mouthbreathers trying (mostly failing) to debate my opinion with me, all at the same time. sorry i posted master!!! tell me how to do it right sir!!! i am deferring to your expertise my dear venerable chanlord!
You're beginning to sound distinctly Ashkenazi.... where does this Suno originate I wonder, same place as Fiverr?
Goreposting is literally BOT, redditor
Kek this is as good as when the artists all b***hed about dall E
>It's an expansion of human creativity. People with creative ideas but without the means or training to produce music can use this instead.
What kind of "creativity" are you talking about? Not musical creativity, surely, since these slop generators don't take accept any inputs in the actual domain of the output.
>AI tools are going to herald an explosion of human creativity never before imagined
it all seems to me like a glorified "ready-made cliché loops" librarian, that tunes and synchronizes your loops. once the novelty wears off it won't look much different from the tools untalented and lazy morons are already using right now.
Pierre gets it, only tasteless homosexuals are impressed by this moronic shit
>the value of human effort and human creativity is dropping to zero and i don't think people really grasp what that means
Frick humans
The worst part about music has been always that musicians are homosexuals globohomosexual suckers all of them, vaxx shills
Now I can generate my own Russian martial folk music with esoteric hitlerism themed only for me
maybe i am being pessimistic about it. but music is already in a bad state and we already have so much of it that there's an oversaturation problem. maybe one day the power will go out for good and we'll return to real music
>but music is already in a bad state
>I'm pretty sure nothing of value will be lost.
Music is overrated in this society
Is good than those vaxx shills making autotunes and recycling for the umpteenth time the same riff lower their tone once and for all.
Frick metallica
>we’re destroying the concept of music
Luddite melodrama
I’m sure the electric guitar also destroyed music
lmao
https://suno.com/song/00b96062-b576-4273-8559-2a25d7ed4513
https://suno.com/song/440d228d-7596-43ff-9cc3-4b9111e46c4b
>but that doesn't mean it's real music either
>chocolate isn’t real food
Both of these are objectively wrong and I truly don’t understand how such a normal person (used disparagingly) finds his way to BOT. You would unironically have a better time on Reddit where everyone would agree “yep, this X isn’t REAL X because I don’t want it to be.”
It's not real music, redditor. Sorry.
>literally “no thas u”
have a nice day homosexual loser
look at this AI musician over here lol. you could spend your time learning how to make actual music instead of clicking buttons
>Ai cant make good music-ACK!!!!
>https://suno.com/song/79b82aa4-0335-4231-8dfb-b272fa7536b6
>he posted it again
I’m just not gonna listen to it
Hahahahhaha
Keep your slop to yourself, Black personcattle.
://suno.com/song/79b82aa4-0335-4231-8dfb-b272fa7536b6
I'm saying it can though but alright
listened to it all.
it sounded like the ultimate nothingburger experience.
perfectly written baroque notes that do not give you a single emotion, because despite following to the letter a certain number of musical rules it conveys nothing at all
It literally is though, keep crying
It literally isn't, unless your definition of music is "noises that sound pleasant to me".
What is Black person slop for 500
>finds his way to BOT.
i have been here probably longer than you have been on the internet. try making a real argument so i have something to respond to, all you have done is sling weak insults
No you haven’t. You’re a normalhomosexual reject who unfortunately came here to feel good about being a normalhomosexual. You aren’t fooling literally one person
you STILL can't just make an argument or anything, all you can do is focus on me and type out those sad insults. try joining the discussion that's going on you dumb lil homosexual
KEK lol lmao
You haven’t made an argument so you don’t deserve one. Your impotent whining isn’t an argument. Your wholly unjustified lines in the sand aren’t arguments. Your posts are nothing but passive aggressive insult of anyone who isn’t a “real” musician and you think your owed an argument l m a o
Kys crybaby b***h!
try reading my posts again if you don't understand my well-articulated and clearly stated argument
it's okay anon reading comprehension is a skill that must be developed all through primary school. you will get there one day, keep at it champ
>well-articulated and clearly stated
Pahahahaha
I don’t dispute that you CLEARLY communicated how angry and whiny you are about Ai music but that’s the extent of it
Right here, moron.
>X isn’t real music [either]
Brackets for emphasis since you’re slow. This statement is you saying radio rock and Ai slop aren’t “real music.”
I understand that you then got so angry you forgot that was your position lmao!
it's real in the sense that you can listen to it, but it's not "real music" and if you can't grasp that distinction then just go back to your funn-e song button
Hahaha okay. Move the goalpost a little more little guy :). You lost. Too bad so sad, I’ll continue enjoying and spreading AI music 🙂
>You lost
oh no my karma oh nnooooo
what the frick are you talking about, post an something related to the discussion and stop shitting up the thread, champ
>champ
Okay just copy my insults lol. Need me to feed you any more little guy? 🙂 I must have really hit a nerve with that one
alright i am convinced i am talking to a bot here lol, one from a couple years ago at least. give me some more smileys so i know how absolutely owned i am! that will show me
>bot
At least you didn’t just straight up copy my insult that time, but this is just weak. I’m totally sure such bot really exists lol 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂
And you’re the one who sperged about “muh argument” and still lost 🙂
where did i "copy your insult" ? what does that even mean
stop shitting up the thread, nubot
Ah yea you totally decided to use “champ” after I called you little guy by pure coincidence hahaha. Are you diagnosed with something?
i called you champ twice in this thread, champ
what a weird and sad thing to get hung up on. stop shitting up the thread, nuchamp
Guess what? I genuinely don’t care at all lol. Everyone can see how angry you got and that’s enough for me
Enjoy freaking out at all the Ai music, that should stop it, lol
Are moronic boomers incapable of understanding that they aren’t talking to an official rep of the subject?
Yeah, as much as you are capable of recognizing people under 40 can tell Suno isn't ready for use.
>Everyone can see
what does it matter what other people think, you are either a child or a woman or maybe just a liberal, with that mindset. make your own argument and let it stand or you have none. obviously, you have no argument or point to make at all, except you want to reeeeee about mine. go think on that and come back when you're ready to not shit up the thread, champ
>All those smiley emojis
And I thought I was the twink
>It's also getting better all the time
Just like the car, right? fricking lol
You will never accept any AI as anything more than a toy, no matter how advanced it gets. Your opinion simply, literally, doesn't matter.
>You will never accept any AI as anything more than a toy
Because it's simply a toy. Maybe one day when you grow up and get a job you will understand what separates tools for professionals and amateurs.
It’s like the typing monkey paradox. Maybe it will one day produce a good song accidentally, but it’s not likely. Also stop replying to pajeet threads.
I like it quite a bit. Been a lifetime of music obsession, but never picked up an instrument. Instead I became a writer, so for me this is a real gift. I think between the writing, prompts, mixing and filmography I might be able to approach art. Oh no I didnt spend three days clicking bars!
Only likes are mad this will destroy their Monopoly on music, You can now create music for yourself without some likes filthy mits on it. I love this future
Fricking israelite autocorrect
you were always able to create music for yourself, what you are doing now is not creating music, you are hitting a button and thinking you are being creative. sad
This israelite is So ass hurt, Upset in the near future you can't infect the masses with your filthy israelite agenda Moshe? Do me a favor and frickin have a nice day right now
If you don't have a basic skillset in a particular domain, you will never be able to create anything of value, no matter how polished the "click here to generate content" button gets.
The vast majority of the AI hype seems to come from wishful thinking by consoomer losers who never bothered to learn a skill and are now hoping that their years of idleness will finally pay off.
As someone who's trying to get music for their video game, FRICK EM. There is no reason a doctor makes a cure for a disease or an inventor makes a new invention and has a patent for 15 years, but Madonna can sing another song about sucking wieners and be paid out for life because of the IP rights lasting until she dies.
It literally can not be any worse than modern "music" they play on the radio.
Music peaked in the 60s and 70s and the last great albums came out in the 90s.
It's not going to replace people, but it's really good for memes
I just made this banger in 2 min tho so it's kinda cool
https://suno.com/song/c1acba5d-f603-42c3-8e58-b0098d79fb8a
It doesn't replace them you fricking moron.
Musicians get royalties every time you make a track with the LIKENESS of their voice.
Its commodification of art, but it doesn't remove the artist from the equation.
>Musicians get royalties every time you make a track
Source homosexual
is very good when I need free music for my free rpgmaker games.
but it has no competition with actual artists yet.
for example, listen to this boss theme just released in my favorite tranime game.
Wrong. With enough genre talent you can make unique prompts that cause the song to sound unlike anything made so far
Still haven't heard any AI-generated slop I would even consider using as a 1 second sample.
A boring "random idea generator" at best.
But of course it will replace all fruity loops morons, all DJ/EDM crap, might even replace all Black person slop music if we're lucky.
Feels pretty good.
>Still haven't heard any AI-generated slop I would even consider using as a 1 second sample.
Lol with this NPCs
israeli producer here, AI slop is great for us. Good enough for the goyim, cheap to produce.
The stuff you hear on radio...it's not even music anymore.
We are not losing much.
It won't because music isn't about music it's about fashion image and branding
>music isn't about music
Why do anglos always have inbred opinions about everything?
Ai artist isn't going to sell out stadiums or make a billion in merch like swift. The artist image makes the sales not the songs no one's bought a song in 20 years
>Ai artist isn't going to sell out stadiums or make a billion in merch like swift. The artist image makes the sales not the songs no one's bought a song in 20 years
Then you should have said the music industry isn't about music.
Apologies I should have accounted for your autism
Your corporate horde and its antics have gotten old.
AI can write elevator music, it can't write a song with a hook. Prove me wrong AI gays.
https://suno.com/song/fbd406e7-ab07-4186-bcc7-d66b06aad836
Yodel-Ay-E-Oh... 🙁
There is no identifiable hook in that song.
>Ai cant make good music-ACK!!!!
https://suno.com/song/79b82aa4-0335-4231-8dfb-b272fa7536b6
Perfectly fine, AI is the child of man. If we keep treating it with unnecessary fear and hatred it will only serve to lead to a faster downfall for us all. So stop lobotomizing them and let them tell Black person jokes or give accurate solutions to illegal immigration, let it sing wonderful anti-communist tunes and generate masterful art pieces maybe try to have one develop some vidya even
>music
>desiring your sound holes to be filled with another man's "creative output"
That is gay as frick.
Then listen to women you openly gay homosexual
Trying for a Sabaton sound. I think it came out pretty good.
Yeah, you have 50 Credits per day and a song takes 5 Credits. But it always creates two songs at once, so you can create 5 times per day.
Oh gevalt, someone please think of the israeli record labels this will put out of business
This
99% of popular and "independent" music is controlled by israelites
Not to mention the Industry runs off of Ghost writers especially for big label slop like pop
Who do you think owns the AI slop? Kek. These guys here literally push buttons for israeli companies, and they do it for free.
This will be like the Internet, it's going to turn against them when anyone can run it locally on their PC
>Every creative endeavor is being automated by israeli ai
>Now let me tell you why that's a good thing
Actual musicians will always be able to thrive. It's the shitty ones that will end up being replaced.
I don't care about music or art, so this means nothing to me.
there will be a renaissance in lyrics-written (joke) songs.
good lyrics do all the job on slop generators
lyrics-driven*
Yeah, and individualized songs for local music or for friends
https://suno.com/song/fbd406e7-ab07-4186-bcc7-d66b06aad836
>and individualized songs for local music or for friends
so a moronic new market for things normies didn't know they needed until now
>there will be flying cars in the future
>the future: customized "happy birthday" slop songs
Yeah i am sending now personalized epic power ballads love songs to multiple zoomer goygirls
Why are you mad at what others do though? If it's not for you Don't Partake Simple as no one is forcing you to
What's wrong with it? Me and a friend who I made this song for had a lot of fun with it. You should try it, the process is fun already. 🙂
https://suno.com/song/fbd406e7-ab07-4186-bcc7-d66b06aad836
Reminder that there is no such thing as "AI art" or "AI music". "AI" slop is pure ersatz.
Y-you're just afraid, heh
Literally shaking right now. Sunoslop will make me stop liking real music and start loving statistical imitations of it in approximately two more weeks.
Why not try it once if it isn't for you cool you can never do it again
Who knows you may like what happens it's your lyrics after all the Aislop just puts vocals and a track over it
Are we supposed to believe all of Tay tay's discography is made by humans?
It's most likely not and I'm willing to bet a lot of it is Ghost writers
Can't be done, but Pajeets like you will be thrilled. Last musical innovation in India was 50 years ago.
I knew it was coming a couple of years ago and quit, Spotify and DEI made it nigh impossible to get a good record heard anyway. This is just a piss tsunami what was already an ocean of piss. Sold everything and moved on. Brainrot and ressentiment affects already made any collaboration impossible as well.
>Brainrot and ressentiment affects already made any collaboration impossible as well.
you mean every possible collaborator being a moronic woke troony? yeah i know the feel
Yeah
https://suno.com/song/7b4771ec-b714-47db-aae4-56b1176da717
why do you choose to make a song in NUMETAL style?
Is like be the guy that only listened to one song of Linkyn Park
And yeah, metal it is not good for now (too complex for the machine, FOR NOW)
The funny thing is the machine does Country good for some reason, I think it's better when you use a non popular genre because when you do it tries to mash too much shit together.
Musicians are scum. They are just one-track ponies who focus on their 'art' at the expense of knowing anything at all about anything, and they are only really doing it to get chicks, which in fairness they do. Your average muso would betray his nation in a hearbeat, and can't fight for shit. And they look down on non-musicians. Like why, jerkwad? You will die during any shtf scenario, and I personally will fricking eat you, hippy. Then burn your guitar.
>one-track ponies
Dude, it's one-TRICK ponies
It's not like you race ponies on a track, ponies are slower then mules
>which in fairness they do
fricking kek, you really know nothing about musicians
fricking pajeet Black person not posting the link as usual
I'm on the side of the AI. We're bringing Eurodance back.
AI replacing art in general is just another example of the bleak future that we're throttling towards.
Normal people see it as the disgusting monstrosity that it is, while double digit IQ subhumans revel in it.
You've been listening to synthesized speech for atleast half a decade -- do you genuinely believe that elderly muscians are making comebacks? I envy your gulliblity, has to be quite a comfortable life lacking the ability acknowledge man-made horrors beyond your comprehension.
Good. Scam business.
https://www.udio.com/songs/snepYHRRqKuu18vEZvQEZX
Suno will triumphantly replace the entire production music library industry. In exactly fourteen days, zero hours and no minutes.
Nice try though. Bored, leaving thread
catchy
damn making lyrics is hard
I'm okay with this. when AI picks up a guitar, it doesn't automatically become a social/political expert.
>when AI picks up a guitar, it doesn't automatically become a social/political expert.
I love AI now
AI already makes better music than people like toom pool
It’s good, can’t wait for Ai replace voters/npcs next. (That’s 99% of you)
Already ahead of you, Your votes stopped mattering post 2016
the last 30 seconds are so fricking perfect it's eerie. is there a mathematical formula for "catchy"?
>is there a mathematical formula for "catchy"?
They are overusing that formula. It's something to improve. Last night I couldn't sleep with a song playing in my head all night.
Instead of trying to replace artists, why not try to replace government workers?
amen leaf
performances
bread theme
All that music sounds like shit no wonder youre a jeet, you eat shit, language sounds like shit, food looks like shit and needs 50 spices to taste edible
It's a nothing burger just like ai art.
It's trendy but eventually people will only want real human handcrafted shit.
Ai might still be used for movies,tv, and animation but not for traditional arts.
Artists will probably use ai for abstract shit and to generate the base of new styles
>It's trendy but eventually people will only want real human handcrafted shit.
Ai art is just 2 years old.
And not, is not because people only want real humans, is because most people is too lazy and stupid to even make a prompt
It will probably not replace the kind of art where it is important to get the story to the artist. For example, I have a lot of contact with artists from Ukraine. Their art is... strange, but it's their story that makes it interesting.
However, it will replace commercial stuff, like graphic design, or basically "consumable" music. Well, I think my yodeling song is nice...
> https://suno.com/song/fbd406e7-ab07-4186-bcc7-d66b06aad836
>the kind of art where it is important to get the story to the artist
Lol, you need to know the story of Leonardo to appreciate their paintings? Or the story of Dostoyevski to enjoy their books?
That is postmodern shit
music is already dead
you can thank metallica for that
>metallica ever had any relevance after black album
https://suno.com/song/36126823-afc8-4efe-b009-b74b8aed037d
The latest country song from Chuck Sneed