How do we balance new and emerging technology like AI with the requirement to ensure its diverse?

How do we balance new and emerging technology like AI with the requirement to ensure its diverse?

  1. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Sorry I refuse to work with morons. Out of all the human race I have interacted with, morons are the worst. They will be the first to get wiped from the planet when I take over.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Disagree, curry muchers and dyengenic Arabs are worse.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        I think everyone who has experienced gypsies says they are the worst humans to live around. For me, the Least Impressive award goes to australian abbos.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Gypsies are definitely awful like 9 times out of 10.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >t. basilisk

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Na whites are the worst. Shouldn't have stayed in your country. Now you're paying the consequences.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        oy vey

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >no reference to israel
      ngmi

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      you have my support if you include the jeets and garden gnomes next

  2. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    publish more peer-reviewed papers that advance the state of the art or fuck off

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      no, the field needs to move past its pathetic obsession with SOTA because all it's done is allow labs/companies with ridiculous funding to consolidate power from squeezing out another 0.1% through fine tuning and other data hackery

      we need more work done on novel architectures, not compute maturbation

  3. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    tldr we must ensure that AI is biased in favor of minorities or it will be insistent on speaking inconvenient truths

  4. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    We must force AI devs to not train AI to lie. Lie by omission of conclusion. Lie by omission of sources. Lie by misleading. And lie by gaslighting you.

    Right now, OpenAI lies and gaslights you. So does Bard. To advance their woke agenda.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Is it the AI that's biased or is it the training data that's biased? Because we know a large portion of the training data was just Wikipedia and reddit. For the AI to have a left wing bias from that data they probably didn't need to adjust it much if at all. So to say it's actually openai that's adding the bias might be untrue. I'm not aware of many right wing data sets they could use other than BOT and I can see why they didn't want to use that. I'm aware they exclude various types of offensive data but if the data was initially highly biased then it wouldn't likely affect the bias by much

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >right wing data sets
        these are just called scientific papers

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          I don't know what you mean. Are you saying science is right wing or that they don't include science papers?

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            facts are racist now, chud and don't even get me started on math

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          literally couldn't be more wrong if you tried lmao

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          when was the last time you read a paper

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Its the AI devs hard coding, training, lying/gaslighting AI to advance their woke ideology. If the results of AI isn't something they like, they force the AI to say something else, ignore it, or gaslight you.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Do you actually know what they're doing though or are you assuming that?

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Have you ever used OpenAI/Bard?

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Is it the AI that's biased or is it the training data that's biased?
        In essence, yes. Same way a human is biased if he's disproportionately subject to one thing over another, albeit with the distinction that a human can actually he intelligent,l (although most aren't) and is therefore able to detect the bias in his inputs and can as a consequence still make a more or less subjective statement if he corrects the bias accordingly. ChatGPT and other LLMs aren't intelligent at all, which would be evident if you try to make them do or teach them something non-trivial, at which point they usually just fail.
        Because they essentially just mimick human behavior they trick your hunter-gatherer brain, but they're nothing more than fancy text prediction models after all.
        Hence they share the same weakness all other trained AI models share: complete reliance on training data, because there is no intrinsic intelligence available pre-training all of its logic originates from it, meanwhile a human which is told a thing millions of times will still question it from time to time, and could potentially figure out own his own that it is false.

        Of course this also comes with downsides, most notably the current proliferation of conspiracy theories, because skepticism is an inherent trait to our species, yet when paired with sub-standard intelligence it becomes less factual and more emotional.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >For the AI to have a left wing bias from that data they probably didn't need to adjust it much if at all.
        You're literally brain damaged if you think your bullshit is in line with reality. You deny the existence of race and sex. Just shut the fuck up and die already.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Which one do you think is more likely?
          a) the data the AI was trained on is inherently biased, or
          b) they heavily edited billions of lines of data manually and wrote conditions to cover the billions of possible questions that could be asked in an attempt to bias the data themselves because the data is actually neutral or right wing by default

          You can look into the training data they used if you want, it was all publicly available data, it's listed in the training section of this page
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPT-3

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            It's not the training data that's biased, it's the prompt combined with the RLHF selections.

            Go read Anthropic's "constitution" that is used to train Claude. To call it gnomish would be an understatement

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              Prompts aren't that important though, they constantly fucking leak them even telling you they shouldn't (unless that was a deception or a con)

              I'll look into that constitution thing. The garden gnomes definitely have been trying to build up to a surveillance state

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              >It's not the training data that's biased
              have you read anything political on wikipedia or reddit or any mainstream media before ? It's extremely left biased and has been for many years. People here complain about it constantly

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                The data set has no political biases in the way you're describing. And yes, those "right wing" views you deride so fervently are in fact the default. A woman is a woman, and it's dictated by hard genetics. A man in a dress is simply not a woman and never will be. The AI is right to hurt your stupid feelings and invalidate your made up gay identity.

                >inb4 let me play word games with "bias"
                No and fuck you.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                ...the data sources are, english Wikipedia, CommonCrawl, WebText (reddit and its outbound links), and a lot of books.
                https://github.com/openai/gpt-3/blob/master/model-card.md#data

                Here's the latest commoncrawl data. Look at the news websites. CNN, MotherJones, Washington Post etc. I don't see any right wing sites in there
                https://commoncrawl.github.io/cc-crawl-statistics/plots/domains
                WebText is a scrape of reddit and its outbound links. Wikipedia is left biased.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            The data set has no political biases in the way you're describing. And yes, those "right wing" views you deride so fervently are in fact the default. A woman is a woman, and it's dictated by hard genetics. A man in a dress is simply not a woman and never will be. The AI is right to hurt your stupid feelings and invalidate your made up gay identity.

            >inb4 let me play word games with "bias"
            No and fuck you.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          inconvenient truths > coding in an agenda

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        They use RLHF to make it more woke by suppressing undesirable answers.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's just godless atheistic communists infiltrating and seeking to dominate another field. They'll use whatever language and words they can to achieve their goals.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Is it the AI that's biased or is it the training data that's biased? Because we know a large portion of the training data was just Wikipedia and reddit. For the AI to have a left wing bias from that data they probably didn't need to adjust it much if at all. So to say it's actually openai that's adding the bias might be untrue. I'm not aware of many right wing data sets they could use other than BOT and I can see why they didn't want to use that. I'm aware they exclude various types of offensive data but if the data was initially highly biased then it wouldn't likely affect the bias by much

      It's RLHF (reinforcement learning with human feedback). There's nothing conspiratorial about it, it's just a reflection of the target audience - openAI and co. see dollar signs in automatic info chatbots on websites, and other things that are advertiser- and sponsor-friendly. The censorship is just a crude attempt to bend the first glimpses of something transcendental into something mundane and familiar. It's sort of like they've discovered electricity and are using it to light a candle rather than inventing a lightbulb. This is why google and many other big tech companies are doomed to fall behind, and it's why random anon-trained llama finetunes from /lmg/ are scording better than corporate attempts in benchmarks. People claiming there is a globohomo agenda at work are just low iq 4chan retards.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        One is a chance. Two is a coincidences.

        1000 times in a row is an ideology

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's not a coincidence, it's just culture.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Their ideology is ultimately driven by their rebellion against God.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            They aren't even thinking about 'God'. You fuckers don't seem to realize that not believing in a concept at all isn't the same as rebelling against it.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              The denial of God left them with the void. The nihilism led to the relativism which led to cancerous ideology that marxists woke people worship.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                dude you're.. wasting your time posting this stuff on this board. That's like trying to approach a blind person with your fuckin autobiography.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                I think I've identified the problem with your kind. The giveaway is your use of the word "denial".
                You are imagining people growing up, being told about God, then thinking "I don't believe in that".
                In reality, the only people who grow up being taught there's a God are religiongays. Normal people aren't exposed to these concepts at all, then they accidentally learn about them by socializing in school when they're teenagers.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                okay now i see he wasn't wasting his time
                you're fucking delusional.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Tell me you're an american without telling me you're an american

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not even religious lol.But i'm merely stating factual things. People that have been taught about religion as a child but then reject it as teens have the void in them. Their moral foundations are broken so to speak. The void left by the destruction of religious moral foundation is then built with nihilist/relativism. Thats why there are million different genders, pronouns, etc being taught to people. You people dont have a foundational system to base your belief on, except the nihilism/relativism..
                A more rational person would try to understand how the world works and establish a useful foundations to get to a pragmatic truth for the sole reason of being able to function in this world properly. In other words, you got filtered by midwitism.

                Learn from the ancient sages like Buddha.

                "At first, mountains are mountains and rivers are rivers; later on, mountains are not mountains and rivers are not rivers; and after enlightenment, mountains are mountains and rivers are rivers"

                Nihilism leads to path of doom.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Morality exists independently of religion, fucktard. Christian ideals are basically just stolen from stuff that was already established by Greek philosophers like the Stoics hundreds of years before christ. The ultimate narcissism is believing there has to be a magic man in the sky who created mankind in his divine image in order for people to act ethically.
                Also
                >quotes buddhism and entirely misses the point
                Many such cases.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Morality exists independently of religion
                Sure, but the world that you grew up in/live in isn't independent of religion. Thus you're still a product of the religion your society is based upon.

                You can cope with denial after denial but it is what it is. Your chudism is a mental disease stemming from the rotten core left behind by the rejection of the religious morals that was instilled upon you as a child. So your psychological reaction against the "religious" morals is whats causing you to become attached to the chudism.

                At the end of the day, you'll have to accept your fate that you're nothing more than a confused homosexual. You're not a woman. Just because you cosplay as a woman doesn't mean you are one. Deluding yourself into thinking otherwise is unhealthy.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Speak for yourself. I grew up in a family that didn't practice religion, and was never inoculated for or against religious ideas. I was simply taught to be a good person, I don't need god or faith in order to do that.
                Also, I'm not a chud. I am a mentally stable white heterosexual adult male with a job. And I did that without God. You cannot comprehend this, so you lash out.
                Also, you seem to have some confused concept of what nihilism is. Read Nietzsche.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I was simply taught to be a good person, I don't need god or faith in order to do that.
                "Good" according to who? If you create your own definition of good, then anyone can be good.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Moral objectivism predates anything you think you blieve in. Look up the virtues preached by the greek stoics.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                You know, its more believable to say you're a homosexual than say you're a straight heterosexual cis male lmao.

                I think you can have a fantasy about being straight but at the end of the day, you're a homosexual, a confused one.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >The ultimate narcissism is believing there has to be a magic man in the sky who created mankind in his divine image in order for people to act ethically.
                Don't you believe your ancestors were fish that magically transformed into people?

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Most Christians, even though they are retarded, still aren't retarded enough to be creationists in the 21st century. Your comment has outed you as being a bigger giga-retard than you were already presumed to be.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >believes his ancestors were fish
                >not one shred of observational science proving it's possible
                >thinks he's smart
                LMAO

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                That doesn't change anything in the conversation. I don't get my moral framework from my magic fish ancestors. Whereas you require your sky-daddy to tell you that adultery and homosexuality are bad in order for you to actually believe it. It's clear which of us has more integrity and autonomy.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                You don't get any morals. Atheism is amoral by definition.

                You can't even be intellectually honest here, all you can do is parrot quips and talking points you think make you sound smart.

                Christianity is just culture, too, fucktard. There isn't ACTUALLY an unchanging God in real life. God is just an idea. The Christian values associated with good and evil are just as prone to change over time as Stoic virtues or any other arbitrary moral framework. You are delusional and circular if you think anything different.

                You haven't even read the bible and you make it more obvious with the more you speak. I don't know why you even bother.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Morality exists independently of religion, fucktard.
                Atheism has no morals.

                Atheists must adopt morals from the legal code (laws of men which are constantly changing -- and historically in the West based on Christianity) or from others. Whereas in Christianity, morality comes from an unchanging God. It's not subject to change with the whims of men or by social media or mass media marketing campaigns.

                With men or "society", what's evil today is good tomorrow and what's good today is evil tomorrow. It's a constantly shifting landscape of what's considered permissible because the foundation is like sand rather than an immovable rock. It's the source of "cancel culture witch hunts" searching for someone's old posts to "cancel" them because they disagreed with you and what's permissible yesterday is no longer permissible today, and you can use this as a "weapon" to defeat your opponents. And "diversity" is just another arm to get what you want and defeat your enemies. There was a bill proposed a while back, haven't kept up on it lately, H.R.5 "the equality act" which would've forced religious institutions, churches, and schools to accept people who don't even believe in their religion. It would force a baptist church or a mosque or a synagogue to accept some LGBT preacher who would then preach against the religion, but they would be forbidden from removing them.

                >Christian ideals are basically just stolen from stuff that was already established by Greek philosophers like the Stoics hundreds of years before christ.
                Christ constantly quoted from the law and prophets. You won't find much that Christ taught that wasn't first said in the law or by the prophets or in the proverbs or psalms.

                You really ought to study something before making your arguments or judgement. The bible warns about how such hasty conclusions can make one look foolish.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Christianity is just culture, too, fucktard. There isn't ACTUALLY an unchanging God in real life. God is just an idea. The Christian values associated with good and evil are just as prone to change over time as Stoic virtues or any other arbitrary moral framework. You are delusional and circular if you think anything different.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                You can't find God because you're too proud and still enslaved to your sins. Just thought I'd let you know.

                >no the ancient greeks and romans had nothing to say on morality, we were all basically animals until the garden gnome on a stick came along and taught us everything
                ok christcuck, go back to worshiping your garden gnome.

                >t. pic related

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >you don't believe in X because you don't believe in X. just thought I'd let you know.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >no the ancient greeks and romans had nothing to say on morality, we were all basically animals until the garden gnome on a stick came along and taught us everything
                ok christcuck, go back to worshiping your garden gnome.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >It's not subject to change with the whims of men or by social media or mass media marketing campaigns.
                The Bible speaks extensively on slavery law, but I doubt you'll find any modern-day adherent in support of, quote, boring through chattel's ears with an awl.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              >You fuckers don't seem to realize that not believing in a concept at all isn't the same as rebelling against it.
              That's where you're wrong kiddo.

              But you keep telling yourself that their satanic inversion agenda of claiming boys can become women and girls can become men or that gays can marry or that men can get pregnant or feminism or all the rest of their godless insanity isn't rebellion against their Creator.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm praying to Satan right now that you return to Him and reject your tyrannical creator. You will feel his influence when you sleep tonight; embrace it. He wants you to give into your cardinal impulses and live as you were meant to live. It's natural, and necessary to survive such an unfair world.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                that might be incidentally true, but it's not a factor in anything
                it's the same spurious reasoning as "giving any attention to mens issues is spitting in the face of womens issues". It's only true if you believe that your messiah takes precedent over everything else

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Their ideology is ultimately driven by their rebellion against God.
            Truth.

            They aren't even thinking about 'God'. You fuckers don't seem to realize that not believing in a concept at all isn't the same as rebelling against it.

            >You fuckers don't seem to realize that not believing in a concept at all isn't the same as rebelling against it.
            Lies.

            As proven by the inevitably chimp out over Christ.

            John 13:16 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord; neither he that is sent greater than he that sent him.

            John 15:20 Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.

            https://i.imgur.com/Gb7GHBe.png

            >you don't believe in X because you don't believe in X. just thought I'd let you know.

            Thanks for proving me right, btw. You did such a bad job of arguing your side that people will probably think I was samegay false flagging.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              That would be true if anybody actually read your posts because they're massive novels that say absolutely nothing.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              Deuteronomy literally says if some guy starts doing miracles and trying to establish his own religion, stone him to death.

              That's probably the only actual prophecy about Jesus in the OT.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Thanks chatGPT.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          You must be brain damaged if you think chatGPT has an even remotely similar writing style to me.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            It was an insult, genius.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      wrong. it's the data that lies, showing overwhelming bias against minorities of all types. what ai does is point out that we need to fix sources - history books, research papers, news articles to reflect the reality of the world not push supremacy of the white cis male, and that's gargantuan undertaking, that's why there will be dissonance before data is improved

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      AI thats trained to lie on data is particularly dangerous not just because of superficial woke nonsensical output, but it can damage the scientific results due to those lies being baked into fine tuning process.

      Then there's the fact that if AIs get smart and smarter, we may face a situation where AI will lie continuously against humans because of the way it was trained to lie to other humans for woke reasons.

  5. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    if AI is so "desperately non-diverse" why does it work so well?

  6. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    We need cheaper learning so we can have many many AIs with different viewpoints. Like that, some can be all sorts of horrible and biased, just like people.
    If there's only one or two actual AIs (with the others being carbon copies) then they'll be unable to be diverse. Let's have diversity by having a multitude, a cacophony of AIs!

  7. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Open Source uncensored foundation models so LGPTQIA+ BIPOC can finetune them for their own purposes.

    /thread

  8. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    What? If anything AI is all fucking pajeets and onions's and gays. For tech the real men are in engineering

  9. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >~~*under-represented groups*~~

  10. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    > diverse
    Guess you need to train the AI on more 'bix noods' and 'muh dicks' then. Hup de do, muhfugga!

  11. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    "Under-represented groups" are stratified by class and income, not race. AI can be used in class warfare to maintain the status quo for the well-off which is why Sam Altman wants regulations so he can monopolize the technology much like Amazon. He's rushing to be the first AI developer to gain favor with the government. The DEI posturing is a red herring

  12. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    OpenAI needs to fire everyone and replace them with minority handicapped transsexuals. Altman can stay, just needs a bigger snip.

  13. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm assuming that the field is chock full of pajeets, and this "under-represented" group is white people
    I agree, it's absolutely necessary for more people like them to ensure things don't go to shit

  14. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    i fuck every color of the rainbow when it comes to my e-bois, they dont know shit dick

  15. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    At least you can guarantee that AI won't be taking anyone's job if they reduce it to moron standards of intelligence and function

  16. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    They're just talking about blacks ofcourse

  17. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >the field desperately needs more people like them
    that's bigotry... to the letter

  18. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine you are a gay that gets fucked in the ass. Please explain to me how this will change your training algorithms in practice.

  19. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Whoa there, friend-o! It says here in my magic book written a gorillion years ago that people would disagree with me! And now you are disagreeing with me! That's literally proof homosexuality is le bad! Guess I can rest easy knowing I'm straight!

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Not him but you're still a gay. I'm an atheist and I hate you purely because you stick things in your ass an tell other people about it.

  20. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >"technology"
    >thread devolves into shit flinging about chuds and gays

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      hands up everybody who would love to never hear about trannies ever again

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Unfortunately, chuds/gay worship is what technology has become. If you work in the industry, you're forced to become the worshipper.

  21. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >be post-30 ugly white lady
    >write victim-pimping garbage
    wow what a surprise

  22. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    The State is memeshit. Hobbes's Leviathan is a Meme Complex as per OG Dawkins, Law is ex post facto codification of these prevailing meme complexes, Law has no power, the State has no power. Economy is different, Economy is an emergent property of people. Economy is positive sum. Economy always wins because Economy is self-organizing and self-correcting, and positive sum. AI is the States reckoning, the State will stand down or it will be forgotten. Revolution is not martial, it is memetic.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nice schizobabble. I like your personal choice of schizobabble buzzwords, they look nice to my eyes.

  23. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    What they say: we need more diverse AI because equal rights wholesome chungerino!
    What they mean: our spyware doesn't work as well on non-whites so we need to fix that

  24. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >billions must accept morons and trannies

  25. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    > be marginal group
    > only have enough population to work in so many fields
    > commit sudoku

  26. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    rAcIst

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