How come they missed out on pioneering AI?

How come they missed out on pioneering AI? They're often paraded as "living in the future", and as THE frontrunner in robotics and automation, in which AI and machine-learning will inevitably have to play a major role as the demand for complex automated tasks increase, but it seems like they're completely absent in most serious conversations about AI. Where's their innovative generative AI, their LLM chatbot robot waifus?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Radiation
    Anime

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Japan lost the Industrial war but won the Cultural war. Irony is full of ironies.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    One isekai elf robot gf please.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That's a man tbh.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Good thing I'm bi 😉

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    lost 3 decades

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    japan just says they are futuristic to bring tourists, they have been stuck in time economically for the last decade, and culturally its even worse

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    To pioneer in something like that, you have to either be lucky or do very expensive and risky investment. Japan isn't known for any of these.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Japan is known for quality control and manufacturing process efficiency. Not CUHRAZY r&d risk taking. Also they have different priorities with their large businesses. They don't really care about growth at all cost to satisfy wall street third, fourth and fifth party investors. There businesses are more about serving the purpose of the business and keeping their long term workers employed.

      Their stagnation is mostly on paper because they aren't creating ever increasing stacks of wall street funny money for rich israelites. Their business just stay in business and do their jobs.

      I've literally seen western macro-economy videos that say these profitable long term Japanese companies should be shut down because they aren't growing. Fricking israelites man..

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They "live in the future" in that they live in the ideal corporate tech-dystopia. In a different way from China because the japanese mind doesn't need coercion. You don't need to coerce a japanese, he'll git commit seppuku on his own for a minor mistake.
    Japan was never really innovative in tech. They take what is there and commercialize.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I love the country, the culture, and I owe both a lot, but if I'm going to be real, I don't think of their businesses as amazing in general software, let alone bleeding-edge shit.
    The only major software company I can think of that was founded in Japan and isn't Nintendo is Rakuten. Even Japan's biggest popular meme service, LINE, is actually Korean.
    There's these little things like Vocaloid, Pixiv, Skeb but I'm pretty sure they are relatively medium-sized. Neural network training, on the other hand, needed and still kinda still needs major dough and is super risky business-wise.
    I hate OpenAI and everything they've become, but they had the best chance of making something like ChatGPT happen and even then it still wasn't a given.
    I could blame it on this or that, but I think I'll just let it stand that they aren't really superstars here. SoftBank megacorp seems to be vaguely aware of and making investments in... er, """AI,""" but that's like everyone globally.
    Maybe Anlatan, the closest thing to the Pixiv or Skeb of LLMs, will get bought out by a Japanese company or headquarter in Japan seeing as it has surprising reach over there, or maybe some upstart will completely rock everyone's shit tomorrow using everything the space has learnt over the last year and a half, I dunno.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Vocaloid went to shit because Yamaha failed to continue their collaboration with Crypton, which was the prime reason why this technology was so incredibly successful in the first place. Crypton didn't do much better since NT is not that great and now is lagging behind competition which embraces AI tuning.
      I really hope they will set it up and catch up. They are stomping on dangerous ground and are putting not only their own business at risk but whole subculture/music scene.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Pretty sure Japan is indeed first in the production of porn checkpoints for Stable Diffusion.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Who would have thought an extremely rigid megacorp system rules by old farts where young people can't get a chance to do anything on their own would end up bad for innovation.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >BOT doensn't know that Japan invented AI in the 1980's

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifth_Generation_Computer_Systems

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >in the 1980's
      ... when the US got into panic over TRON.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    This is not the 90s anymore, OP. The world changed and many countries didn't move with it, now USA, Japan and Germany are great examples of bureaucracy and inefficiency.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >asians
    >innovation
    You mist be joking. They can copy and improve, but it's against the cultural grain to actually do anything new or disruptive.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Porn addict country.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >goshujin-sama come sit next to me, let’s watch some ai generated movies together

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    ai is a form of automation designed to sabotage the middle class's ability to participate in the tech industry. the japanese do not have a motivation to sabotage their own people like that.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Because very few people know how to train the models properly.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    No soul = no innovation

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    too busy with their next isekai slop

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    That's because Japan's facade of being "the future" is actually the opposite: it's living in the past, perpetuated with an aging population that are stubborn to change and only think that hardware matters

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >it's living in the past, perpetuated with an aging population that are stubborn to change
      This.
      They really fought to prevent working from home because these old fricks dont know how to use computers.
      Im currently working in logistics in a Japanese company that's bleeding workers. Half the shit they do is unnecessary but they're too stubborn to change and are baffled as to why young people are quitting.

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Japan is a hardware/craftsmen country. Software incels have no power there and that's a good thing. Ironically this fact will only attract more software nerds to Japan

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    dont worry they will be the first on a qt ai bot that can roleplay all the jav

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Japan is losing because they are just catching trends instead of focusing on doing good shit. They are all-in AI hype right now, and before they were all-in with crypto and nfts. Result is that you get just bunch of bullshit startups and teams in larger companies producing 0 value. Literally japan has lost its way since 90s

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    if you want a real answer, its because theyve been in a recession since 1990
    the 1990 crash spooked japs so bad that nobody is willing to take the mildest financial risk
    interest rates for mortgages have been ridiculously low (like 1% or something) for the longest time with 0$ down, and Japs STILL dont buy real estate
    people just save cash ad infinitum
    japanese companies likewise have huge cash piles with 0 debt and every so often they dip into those reserves for some M/A if things slow down, but they arent actively investing in the cutting edge because they are irrationally risk averse
    "irrationally risk averse" sums it up nicely

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They can't code for shit. I mean to be fair they basically have to learn English first.

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Japan
    >Future
    You're a moronic weeb and your image of Japan is not real.
    Japan got economically assfricked in 90s and is barely existing country on brink of collapse due to aging population. On top of that their culture is all about "muh traditions" and doing everything in as slow and inconvenient way possible. Covid was kind of a good thing for Nips because it actually forced some of things that are normal in other countries to be actually implemented.

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    their rulers didn't want them to be pioneers

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Everyone is risk-adverse now. Unless it’s a hype train no one wants to spend money. Lack of supply? Frick you just raise prices because investing in new production is not guaranteed to bring in a profit. Innovate? No guarantee on success = frick you. Unless the government guarantees it, frick you. Only if there’s a massive hype train in the West will they start spending due to FOMO — but that’s the West. Japan is crazily risk-adverse; unless it’s a guaranteed sure thing it’s frick you. That’s not to say there still isn’t startups and small operators hustling business, but the major players aren’t interested. That’s why they let themselves fall out of cutting edge semiconductor industry, instead letting other Asian companies pick up those developing markets. Japan was piggybacking off US research and was positioned to be a leader in the industry — nope. Because frick risk. Before their giant crash they WERE in a leadership position. All that’s over with now, technological Japan only exists today in the mind of weebs.

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I don't understand where this "muh futuristic Japan" meme came from? Popular culture?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Because midwit Murrican sixthworlders cognate exotic tech with "futuristic", they think in buzzwords.
      And Japan for a short, short while after WW II was pioneering on few markets but again, that literally imploded in 90s and from that time they are spiraling out of control.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      80s

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Japan has been living in 2010 since the 1980's

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    PC98

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They havent been relevant to the tech scene since the 2000s. In thie 90s, they had something, but since 2000, its all gone. China manufacturing all the tech now. They could ride the highs of the 90s into early 2000s, but afterwards, it was over.

  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They can't into English and internet, and llms are all about large language data sets on the internet.

  33. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They're paraded as living in the future because they resist the importation of shitskins - thus having a flourishing society. A flourishing society marches on into the future.
    The West however...
    The US gots its Black folk and the EU its arabs/middle easterns...
    Now kys, israeli scum

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