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  1. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    What is an AI expert? I just saw this guy on CNN and he was called one and he said straight they have no idea how the AI does anything all they can do is ask it to do stuff and see if it can do it nobody knows how it actually works

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Well in Yudkowshy's case he's a high school dropout who's claim to fame is writing a Harry Potter fanfiction and larping about AI on a blog

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        I mean, he did also create logical decision theory, solving the prisoners dilemma and MIRIs ELK paper is actually good.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          shut up man, we're supposed to hate him for wearing a trilby

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            tfw new atheism ruined blues brothers hat

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >What is an AI expert?
      Whoever is willing to say the state mandated opinions

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yudkowsky is the one saying the state is wrong and should shut it all down.
        But it doesn't matter, because then he becomes controlled opposition in your mind. There is no possible evidence you don't force to fit your previously existing world view.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Touché
        And it's better if they don't know shit. That way they don't have to lie.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      To be fair Yud is a israelite, rich and writes Harry Potter fanfiction so I think he has proven himself

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's Connor Leahy, the guy behind EleutherAI. They trained and released multiple, GPT-like models the past two years and now he is the CEO of Conjecture, one of the few companies actually doing AI alignment research in the world. It's a somewhat esoteric field, but I find him a pretty credible guy and unlike Yudkowsky, he can get across a point without sperging out. And yes, what he said about LLMs is true, we are playing with a black box at this point.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      totally sane physiognomy

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      He looks like rasputin

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >they have no idea how t
      broad description of modern day "experts" yes.
      it is magic and it works.

      That's Connor Leahy, the guy behind EleutherAI. They trained and released multiple, GPT-like models the past two years and now he is the CEO of Conjecture, one of the few companies actually doing AI alignment research in the world. It's a somewhat esoteric field, but I find him a pretty credible guy and unlike Yudkowsky, he can get across a point without sperging out. And yes, what he said about LLMs is true, we are playing with a black box at this point.

      and has no idea how it works and how it comes to conclusions.
      he should read his text books again.
      and stop paying romanians to complete his code.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        What is an AI expert? I just saw this guy on CNN and he was called one and he said straight they have no idea how the AI does anything all they can do is ask it to do stuff and see if it can do it nobody knows how it actually works

        I think you're taking him out of context. It's not that the math is particularly hard to understand, it's that you can't really say why a given weight is what it is other than "these abstract fragments of ideas are correlated in the data set, I guess," and you can't predictably change the output by modifying the weights directly.

  2. 10 months ago
    Anonymous
  3. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Jesus Christ the autism is strong in Yud
    '>Keeps making ridiculous stimming hand gestures throughout the whole video

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      literally me except i'm not a fat pseud

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        The way I got very little out of him in the 40mins I watched this interview he really seems a bit of a pseud.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I tend to flail my arms around when I'm excited, does that mean I'm also autistic?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        not necessarily. sensory overload is somewhat common amongst autists, but by itself is not indicative of autism.

  4. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's simple, modern LLMs are autocompletes. They fundamentally require human input to function and they suck a lot at self-directed input. There has been no indication that LLMs are capable of doing things that aren't already in the dataset and they suck at any novel concept that hasn't already been discussed on the internet. For example, try to make an auto-card battler with GPT-4 and it will keep on trying to make Magic the Gathering.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      The way I've been told the story
      If A is more likely than B
      Eventually the neural net will tone down looking for B. Statistically that just means it will reach the local optimum far faster, and thereby using less computation.

      Sure you can feed it more data, and the statistics for the local optimums will amount to several datasets, but it will still do that troublesome thing where I can't refactor to bypass the local optimal condition.

  5. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Modern NLP is based on the idea that the meaning of a word is determined by the surrounding words. This works fine up until a point, but I think it’s not enough to encode ground truths. It’s why GPT can add 20 digit numbers, but not numbers of variable lengths. It will never lead to agi. A key insight is missing, and OpenAI knows this.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      It does pattern recognition which is what goes on between your ears, but by itself you're correct that there is no path to agi there. However, with auto-gpt connecting a few AIs together, letting it determine best models for tasks and self train to accomplish those tasks based on specific end goals it can trial and error its way into... I have one running right now to create a paper clip maker out of arduinos and spare parts.should be benign enough and nothing could possibly go wrong

  6. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    When did you realize Yudkowsky was right about everything?

  7. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >AI Expert

  8. 10 months ago
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    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      life expectancy mid 50s

  9. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why is he on accursed farms?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      he likes gordon freeman a lot

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      maybe ross said something during those monthly chats about ai, the guy reached out (because he is insane) and, whatever this thing is happened?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      it's explained 30 seconds in the video

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        can you really blame the guy for not wanting to watch it?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Ross has said publicly multiple times that he thinks AI uprisings will not happen in our lifetimes, and the fedora lord disagreed and demanded an interview.

  10. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >it's a bot BOT crossover episode

  11. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    He could convince 50% more people if he wasn't wearing a fedora

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Its called trilby sir

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah the fedora killed his credibility to me

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      It is not just the fedora, or that he is fat, or that he has terrible beard, or that he writes Harry Potter fanfic, or that he is highschool dropout, or that he is a sperg with glasses. The thing that did it to him was all of these combined, he isnt just a weirdo on the internet, he is reddit personified, the same way that evil is personified as devil, or that fertility is personified by stone age Venus statues, he is the platonic ideal object of a redditor. The more like him you are, the more of a redditor you are and vise versa. Just textbook definition of pseud or midwit

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        [...]
        yeah you're perfect too

        Stop taking fashion advice from the something awful forums, yidowsky.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          ok bill gates

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >wears fedora, glasses, has beard and is fat
        >so he's pseud or midwit
        can you explain your reasoning here? how these factors imply your conclusion?

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          he's just being a massive woman
          see:

          I am not perfect, I am 3 of those things that Yud is, the thing about Yud however is that he is all of those things. He is all of those at the same time. Its like how being short, being awkward or being fat does not make you automatically unfrickable, but being all three of those does.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Normally listening to scientists or intelligence is somewhat informative but this guy just doesn't have anything concrete to say.

      Like he says everyones gonna die and we need totalitarian control, but doesnt substantiate well. "we might die, or not lol so lets go 100% in one direction I prefer"

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Because again Yud is not a scientist, nor is he educated both in University degree sense or in self-thought way. He is a highschool dropout with AI doomer forum (on which Rokos Basilisk originated). Its these kinds of people that think AI is so smart it is able to outsmart you even if it does not exist yet, and that it will reward you for helping it just so that it could agree to contract it never signed in the first place, and that you would even make it in the first place. He has about as much credibility as Jannie that oversees BOT at this very moment looking for pictures of dicky to delete.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      0 + 50% = 0

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      It is not just the fedora, or that he is fat, or that he has terrible beard, or that he writes Harry Potter fanfic, or that he is highschool dropout, or that he is a sperg with glasses. The thing that did it to him was all of these combined, he isnt just a weirdo on the internet, he is reddit personified, the same way that evil is personified as devil, or that fertility is personified by stone age Venus statues, he is the platonic ideal object of a redditor. The more like him you are, the more of a redditor you are and vise versa. Just textbook definition of pseud or midwit

      yeah you're perfect too

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        I am not perfect, I am 3 of those things that Yud is, the thing about Yud however is that he is all of those things. He is all of those at the same time. Its like how being short, being awkward or being fat does not make you automatically unfrickable, but being all three of those does.

  12. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    why is yud such a sperg?

  13. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Ross autism about AI
    Frick yeah.

  14. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Big Yud is controlled opposition against himself. Normies are shallow and will automatically dismiss his arguments because he's fat and wears a fedora, even if he's right.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      It’s not just looks. Many smart IT guys look like ugly losers, but they still come across as smart people. Yud while he might look above average on first glance, he is not a coder, not a mathematician, not even educated in anything. Just doing simple background check will tell you he is as much of a intellectual as Elon Musk is an engineer. You can very easily get to Dunning Kruger position about Yud by doing the slightest of research, but to normies who don’t even do that he looks like smart man because he gets lot of undeserved interviews and called on podcasts with BigTech CEOs and genius software engineers that make those AIs themselves.

  15. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    He doesn't even know how to code - into the trash he goes

  16. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    bros I'm going to shave my beard now.

  17. 10 months ago
    Anonymous
  18. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    God Yudkowsky is terrible at debating. I'm an hour in and neither of them have said anything of substance. I get he wants to ask Ross what's the difference between "real" thinking and "fake" thinking but he's just spending an inordinate amount of time beating around the bush.

  19. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    he looks smart he must be a professor or a phd or at least have some kind of advanced degree right? A bachelor's? he at least finished high school I'm sure...

  20. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    he really dresses like that?

  21. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    this 'interviewer' is insufferable

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      what do you have against Gordon Freeman?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        hes completely out of his depth, he has no idea what he is even talking about

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Ross is the perfect layman

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          he's not really an interviewer though, he basically went "sure frick it why not"

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      To be fair, Yudkowsky was the one that asked for this. Ross isn't a journalist or the type that would do interviews, he's just an internet funny man.

  22. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    https://twitter.com/YaBoyFathoM/status/1649103596930187290

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://nitter.it/YaBoyFathoM/status/1649103596930187290

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Wow nitter video player isnt insanely bad unlike twitters
        I wonder how that happens

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Nitter just uses your browser's own video player.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://nitter.it/YaBoyFathoM/status/1649103596930187290

      masterpiece

  23. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Does EY have "fans" ?
    I dont get it.

  24. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Accelerate catgirls!

  25. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Daily reminder that this fat frick is still a fat homosexual and spamming him doesn't make him any less of a fat homosexual.

    P.s. AGI stands for Artificially Gelatinous Individual

  26. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >aw yea, a new Ross Scott video!
    >...ah shit

  27. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    EXPERTS!

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      GRIFTERS!

  28. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ross is completely out of his depth, but Yudkovski is just as bad.
    That was a giant waste of time.

  29. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    it has been too late for like 4 years dude. you're just realizing how fricked you are.
    this is the wizard uprising.

  30. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yudbros, do we agree?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Fat c**t should just go on metformin

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >metabolic disprivilege
      >Losing weight has 3 options; surgery, medication, or literal starvation diet
      Oy Vey! Who is programming this AI?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        no? what happened to just eating less? what kind of moron do you need to be to get surgery to lose weight??

        must be that da joos specifically programmed this in

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      no? what happened to just eating less? what kind of moron do you need to be to get surgery to lose weight??

  31. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Has AI gone too far?
    can I frick Miku?
    >No
    that is your answer

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      has Yamaha even added a vocaloid:ai for Miku yet? They have one for Megpoid but that seemed like all that was available when last I checked

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        not that i am aware

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          ai art is painfull to watch

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            That's not AI

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              Yes it is, the half-molten symbol on the arm is dead giveaway. The fingers melt at the base, the strands on hair on her ponytail do not make any sense. There are two holes in the wooden beams for no reason. Her tie is fricked up at the base, the sides of the picture are not making any sense, the button on her neck is a fricking pacman. There is 0 chance human drew this.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                that's just machine learning algorithms, not AI

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Machine learning not AI reeee
                Nobody cares about your semantics. Machine learning today means anything involving machine learning as huge part of it. Nerds call it ANI, businesses call it AI app, everyone calls it AI even if there is not inherit intelligence. Actual AI by your definition is what people today call AGI. Youtube suggesting you videos is called AI now, Adobe selecting subjects for you to manipulate is called AI feature, face detection and Snapchat filters are called AI features, because for the longest time talking about AI that can actually think and learn anything human can easily was just sci-fi talk nonsense, and still is for people who are not high on singularity meme.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Akshually
                Yeah words have meaning, and when everyone says “AI” to describe machine learning they might as well be saying trans women are women, which is equally incorrect

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                But people are saying trans women are women, and if you see them for like just a few seconds you would also think they are women just from seeing breasts, long hair and no beard before you notice their manly frame and skeleton. Words are just sounds we make to describe things and the meaning of those sounds and written symbols also changes. homosexual meant bundle of sticks, then people stopped packing sticks in bundles because they were no longer farmer peasants and now we refer to gays as homosexuals. Gay meant happy and was coopted by the LGBT to mean homosexual. Trannies will never be women not because of some biological reason, but because hey are freaks that do not pass.

  32. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    when are these idiots gonna stop believing this 80s scifi nonsense? ai will never be self-aware, it can only process data in/out.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      you sound like quite the expert

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        i'm just a common moron, but if i can figure that out using grade school logic, it shouldn't be a problem to those with triple digit iq, but ai is a new digital commodity and needs hype to survive and grifters needs hype to scam as many people they can before the trend dies out

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          sometimes i wonder if too much iq is actually a BAD thing, it feels like, inverse stupidity

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          yeah but what differentiates a sufficiently huge neural network and a brain? why do you believe the former can never be self-aware? is it because it isn't flesh and blood? it lacks a soul?

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            can it tell right from wrong? can it learn from its own mistakes? can it figure out his own morality? does it have the self determination to just, do whatever it wants, like, something thats pointless and not productive at all? like, looking at a pretty flower for no reason or, hugging a cat

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              yes

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            theoretically it could, and eventually it may, but its not happening within our lifetimes or using evolutions of current models.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Its cam like crypto/metaverse that people hype up to get money from the idiots and then the trend dies out
          People just say this without actually giving reasons or even thinking about it. Where is that money that you are paying? Where are the people getting scammed? Point me to the people getting bigtime scammed? Point me to the people getting all the money from these scams? There arent any. The only people pouring money into AI are all the bigtech companies minus Apple and they put it into buying GPUs to train those AIs, all the companies actually making them are bleeding money. You could say this is like Metaverse,, but Metaverse was mocked by literally everyone and had no users, Horizons app by Meta that was just worse VRchat had barely few thousand users at any time, meanwhile all the AI tools are the fastest growing apps of all time. The thing about Metaverse is that if there were 25 million users per day, it would succeed no matter how stupid it is, if it has people using the app, it is successful app. Likewise if ChatGPT and Stable Diffusion didnt work, people would not be using them all the time. The only scam here could be saying it will do something amazing in two weeks because the promises are through the moon. You just look at it from the outside as if those three were just Sillicon Valley brainfats and dont think about them further then that, even if they are completely different in every way outside of being tech related and failing (which AI didnt do yet).

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Isnt the whole paperclip meme also just input output thing? Input make me lot of paperclips, output plan on how to take over the whole world, then take each step, process it into programs that could be put inside of physical agents that could then do any task, output data for these agents, and then watch as the world gets turned into paperclips. This is the most famous example of misalignment and it still just takes data in data out.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >ai will never be self-aware
      Why does it need to be self-aware?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Why does it need to be self-aware?
        so morons like ross can claim "fake intelligence" doesn't matter when it triggers a mass extinction event

  33. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    LOL!

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I hate the chinese room. No way to verify the moron that made it, is 'really understanding' vs just a good faker.

  34. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >you vill turn in your gpu
    >nukes and global warming? not a problem!
    how does the mold gamer win in an argument

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      he didn't say they aren't a problem

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Its a scenario where global warming isnt a big problem in the first place, AI isn't a big problem in the first place, takes massive amount of computing power and electricity and will be designed to be contained from ground up and will make other big problems more solvable.

  35. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    These guys are the biggest fricking homosexuals in the world, I can't wait till I can generate an AI video of Yud fricking Niko Avocado to Haddaway What Is Love

  36. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Everything about this guy. The way he looks the way he speaks. His facial expressions; he is the fricking epitome of internet atheist neckbeards from 2012ish.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >is personable
      >looks good in a trilby
      Why be mean

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      good

  37. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    When is the neolib world order going to be aligned with the interests of humanity?

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