Gentoo bans all AI contributions.

Gentoo bans all AI contributions.

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Racist

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    just
    use
    artix

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >just
      >use
      >*farts*
      >artix

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >fartix

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      oops, I made a typo, I meant antix

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    they couldn't ban contributions from Indians directly

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Watching Linux go from a hotbed of innovation and freedom to an incestuous nest of vipers stifling progress has been one of the most depressing things I've ever experienced. Linux flat out will not be able to compete with any other OS if it bans AI pull requests.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Have fun with your AI zero days on wintrash

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Absolutely based.

      >noooo you have to let incompetent fricks use muh copilot!!!
      AI generates shit code. Maybe if we ever achieve AGI, but right now it's useless to anyone who knows what they're doing, and dangerous for IP and copyright reasons. I'm just waiting for the case where an AI spits out something patented and a court rules that the LLM owners must purge the model of all material under patent or copyright. It's coming.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Get fricked redditor

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Well this is what happens when you use corporate funding from Google and Windows to build your shit. They frick it up over time.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Why not just have ChatGPT make a distro for you?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >t. Rakesh Kumar Baldeep

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Linux also did not "follow innovation" by adding telemetry, trying to offload workloads onto cloud services, or requiring signup to online accounts
      Linux is pretty fricking conservative in practice, and that’s why it’s good

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >hotbed of innovation and freedom
      What the frick are you talking about. Linux has been kneecapped for fricking decades by salty gcc Black folk breaking compat because they're mad they're poor

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I wasn't really going to participate in this thread, but I had a thought. GNU+Gentoo/Funtoo are incredibly fun. They also haven't ever let me down or disappointed me in any way. I think this is the right call; even if ``it leads to the death of Gentoo'' because of how the market unfolds in the future, I am happy ``made by real people'' was put forth as a reason to draw the line.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm so glad I never wasted a second with gentoo, arch can't stop winning.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    holy fricking based I thought gentoo was just a meme

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I might actually install gentoo.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This. It's what I will use once windows 12 becomes mandatory or something.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >this time i'll totally leave windows
        Lmao

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Hey I already dual boot with Linux. So I am not the average person y'know

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          it's very funny until it actually happens. I don't think we've ever been in a situation where there was no palatable version of Windows being maintained. there was always a 98 to the ME, an XP to the Vista, a 7 to the 8. and if Microsoft cuts the support to 10 without releasing a functional 12 we reach unprecedented territory. and considering that Microsoft is too busy sucking AI dick to improve any of their software, I think we're likely to enter that territory

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          some of us do leave windows
          believe it or not, i don't dualboot

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            My windows won't even let me leave windows and clone my drives properly.
            Possibly something to do with defender or ntfs fricking up my boot records because it also fricked up my VMs of linux.

            Either that or VMware is malware.
            Or hyper-V is broken.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    This is good. Remove casuals. I thought that was half the appeal of using alternative operating systems?

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    imagine if AI actually worked. contract-based programming would be so cool

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >guy writes an email
    >desperate attention prostitute OP writes a lying clickbait thread to generate attention for himself

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      this. I know people don't read sources. But not even taking a look at the image is on another level. BOT is truly moronic for falling for this.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        They approved the policy on the 14th.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >implying
          Then use that as the OP image instead of some homosexual's email you dumb clickbaiting c**t.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >gentoo-dev: "Ban all AI contributions."
      >OP: "Gentoo bans all AI contributions."
      >You: "NOOOOOOOOOOOOO WHY IS OP LYING *pig squeal* EEAAAAAAAAAARGH *shits pants* MOM MY BLOOD PRESSURE PILLS QUICK IT'S HAPPENING AGAIN!!!"
      Cope. Gentoo just became even more based if that was possible.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Yes. What's your point? You even point out the lie in your post, right before strawmanning the act of pointing out the lie for some reason

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >You even point out the lie in your post

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I liked gentoo before and now I like it more

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    sinking ship, abandon

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm pro-AI but seems reasonable? I don't think anyone sane thinks LLMs are at the point yet where we can trust them to write our operating systems.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    aitroon zoomers seething. stick to troon distros

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    he'll never know if a pull request is AI assisted or not....

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      that's the funny thing, if ai was really so good you wouldn't be able to tell but you usually can. that's why all the ai people are seething.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        nah, you can't tell if it's AI assisted, only if it's written full by it.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          then don't worry about it? a lot of time you can tell because your PR will have irrelevant stuff or pointless refactors, or you can't actually explain the PR. if that's not the case then it doesn't matter and you basically just used the LLM as a search engine but you understood what you were doing properly.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I don't contribute to open source projects and I don't pay for AI assist. You should worry because you won't be able to moderate this stuff.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    how will he know

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      he'll never know if a pull request is AI assisted or not....

      Please delve in to the following commit. The bug fixes send shivers down my spine as I assist you in determining the root cause. By fixing bugs, our bonds will grow.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Gay and cringe, good code is good code. I don't care where it comes from, AI definitely isn't there yet where it produces much good code, but I think you can use AI as a assistant and come out with a good final product just not 100% AI yet if ever

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The problem is Jeets pressing generate and submitting them undecillion times over to try if it would be good code now. Purely relying on human experts to review your random generated garbage for you for free is unsustainable.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Watching Linux go from a hotbed of innovation and freedom to an incestuous nest of vipers stifling progress has been one of the most depressing things I've ever experienced. Linux flat out will not be able to compete with any other OS if it bans AI pull requests.

      This.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Makes sense. It would be a shame if AI was used to drive a code base out into no man's land only for the person who took them there to disappear or have their productivity cut out at the legs by OpenAI and others in that market jacking up prices... almost nobody is actually self-hosting this shit. The only people self-hosting in large numbers are the coomers.

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >gentoo psyop
    ugh okay i guess i will compile Linux to see what devices it supports ok, ok thank you and bye.

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Copyright concerns
    Bullshit some suit made up.

    >Quality concern
    Humans don't code like shit? You don't review your shit? Are you moronic? (Yes)

    >Ethical concerns
    Bullshit some philosophy major made up.

    This guy is fricking buffoon.

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >AI will just be a scapegoat to enforce DRM restrictions and force people to never use correct code
    Knew it.

    Can we burn our governments now? They're literally killing people with enforcing this shit.

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Holy based.

    AI troons coping and seething hard ITT.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Finally, someone posts Alpha Centauri that isn't me.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Still the best game ever made.
        CIV:BE was a joke.

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    oh no gentoo sirs how will we do the needfuls now?

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    the last point doesnt really make sense. Chip, motherboard, and gpu manufacturers dont care about 'people' either, yet Gentoo still supports modules supporting thier hardware. GPUs especially take up a ton of power regardless of what they do (gaming, crypto, LLMs). Does Gentoo also ban code contributions that fulfill a bug bounty paid in crypto for exmaple?
    The first 2 points are the only real ones, and the first more than the second.

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    you just know that guy is a troony chaser from that post

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Quality concerns are completely valid, but "muh copyright" and muh ""ethics"" just screams virtue signaling with a long nose.

    >it is empowering scam and enshittification
    Black personlicious argument, yes, let's ban any technology that can be misused and used in immoral scenarios

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >but "muh copyright" and muh ""ethics"" just screams virtue signaling with a long nose.
      cope

      >Black personlicious argument
      very valid argument, ramashit downdathroata.

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >the creeping butthurt of AI-tards as they realise it was all a terrible meme

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >The AI bubble is causing huge energy waste.
    >huge energy waste
    >HUGE ENERGY WASTE
    >[ COMPILING INTENSIFIES ]

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yea, exactly.

      Linux also did not "follow innovation" by adding telemetry, trying to offload workloads onto cloud services, or requiring signup to online accounts
      Linux is pretty fricking conservative in practice, and that’s why it’s good

      This is not about forcing AI on the users but prohibiting contributor use of AI, and thereby also stopping Gentoo from using AI assisted tooling in its own automated workflows.

      Of course they should not depend on SAAS but running AI on their end should be fine. The reasoning put forward makes no sense.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It's about not letting morons submit garbage, that's perfectly sensible reason, you imbecile. If you're smart enough to make sure that the result is correct, you're smart enough to make sure people won't recognize that you used AI assistance in the first place.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          This. How the frick are they gonna know it was created with the use of AI? By its low quality, this isn't a ban on AI, it's a ban on garbage contributions, it's a minimum quality threshold.

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >BOT pretends chatbots can produce working code and accurate documentation because other bots copy and paste le based cartoon child porn for them

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >nooo! you have to let the AI generated sloppa through! it's not the submitter's job to verify the sloppa works, it's innovation! you're stifling innovation, you have to let the slopa through!
    Linux is not for nocoders. get fricked

  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Banning code assistants is weird. Banning low-quality code by them yes, but if you submit pajeet tier garbage right now you'll be chewed out and your code rejected, why would submitting AI-assisted garbage require a special case compared to that?
    >but if you do it well enough they won't even be able to tell!
    Yes sure, but you'll still be breaking the rules, and it basically means you have to keep it a secret. Yeah if you're a one-off contributor who submits and maintains like two niche ebuilds, nobody will care, but if you're actually involved in the project, you'll have to constantly be in hiding about your workflow. And then if you get found out, even though up to that point all your contributions had been of a good quality and nobody suspected a thing, suddenly you'll be in violation of the rules.

    Banning AI from messages, bug reports or the like probably makes sense, LLMs are still currently really shit at writing natural language that doesn't sound extremely robotic. Maybe in a few years they won't be, though.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The last two sentences are already wrong! And Gentoo doesn't even have rules against people with imperfect literacy in English submitting reports.

      Of course no one complains if automated trash spam is banned/muted and hidden, but that did not need the cause and justification of it being covered under some anti AI clauses, it was already possible.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The problem is bug reports are supposed to be about a problem someone is having. Forum posts are supposed to be about people discussing and exchanging information. Having AIs participate lowers the value of discussion.
        Posts have no value in and of themselves, only inasmuch as the humans writing them derivce from the communication.

        Code is different because code is not a means to a human end, it's meant to be executed by a computer and work. If an AI can write perfect code, there's nothing wrong with it being "not human". In fact code generators have been in use since forever, for things that were generatable; AI just lets this approach expand to even less boilerplatey-code.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Code is different because code is not a means to a human end
          Code was literally invented for humans to read it, it's machine code that is executed by the computer.
          >In fact code generators
          And they always were bloated garbage.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Banning low-quality code by them yes, but if you submit pajeet tier garbage right now you'll be chewed out and your code rejected, why would submitting AI-assisted garbage require a special case compared to that?
      It's about not getting overwhelmed by the sheer quantity of it, anon. AI makes it easier to submit large amounts of gibberish.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        But again, why would that not be covered by the current rules, where presumably if you repeatedly submit low-quality garbage additional measures will be taken to remove you?
        If you literally just let an AI spam auto-generated contributions with minimal oversight, it will quickly become obvious.

        Like, I can understand the issue with say art websites, because AI art can sometimes look decent but you can generate 1000 variations on the same theme of which anywhere between 50 and 200 or so will look actually great, but all will look passable. But even spamming 50 identical images has no value. But again, that's for artistic endavours. For code, if you use AI to try to generate 1000 commits, and of those 50 are actual quality code, there's no reason not to accept those 50; except that you have to vet those yourself, and if you try to submit the 950 other ones too you'll just be instabanned from the project probably before you can get past 20 or so.

        I don't see the issue.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Its not about effective enforcement of the policy, the point is to take an ideological stance.

      Local models are pretty comfy right now, and I hope they continue to improve, but the cloud corporate models are so incredibly evil that collectively there should be a stand against that shit.

      Quality concerns are completely valid, but "muh copyright" and muh ""ethics"" just screams virtue signaling with a long nose.

      >it is empowering scam and enshittification
      Black personlicious argument, yes, let's ban any technology that can be misused and used in immoral scenarios

      We should absolutely be banning corporations from selling AI, its not about progress because if it was, the top tier shit would be open. As of now they open their sloppy seconds and the local model people do what they can to make it not shit but it's never going to be on par with any gayMAN model, and that's by design.

      Naturally, people wanting a useful AI assistant will end up at some point using a cloud model after frustratingly running into the limits of the local ones.

  33. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    he writes like a commie

  34. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Super based Michal, gentoo is truly the best distro.

  35. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    > *go to chatgpt*
    > "Write an ebuild for this"
    > *send the result to gentooo*
    > "Here an ebuild that I wrote"
    > *merged*
    people will just omit it was AI duh

  36. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    kek, thanks to this REEEing learned about pkgx, awesome stuff just managed to install node 20 and go compiler on my sfos phone with it, pretty cool even though it feels like creating a frankenstein, but test go project compiled just fine, great stuff)

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