>eventually, AI will replace the need for all minimum wage jobs and we can use the profits to create UBI
Is he right? Will AI actually replace all of the unskilled jobs?
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isnt this guy a cuck whos wife got fricked by bbc lol
no it was by some swedish femboy. makes no sense why mel left a literal multi millionaire for some broke boy in sweden. I dont understand women anymore
I don't think you ever did then. Women often value drama, "adventure," and attention over any practical resources.
I think that's pretty endearing, I thought I needed to have a $120k minimum salary to even begin dating.
Stop listening to moron incels on the internet. Your parents probably met, fricked, and conceived you while your dad was making the equivalent of $50k/year nowadays at best.
>a literal multi millionaire for some broke boy in sweden.
why are you moronic cuck worshipers like this. the guy was a literal tiktok star with millions of followers with a shitton of brand deals, with connections to celebrities. your scrawny parasocial daddy got mogged hard
TikTok “influencers” don’t make any money, and a million followers on that platform isn’t as big of a deal as you think it is
but they have... PO TEN TIAL
which des-tiny is all out of
hi memetix
>makes no sense why mel left a literal multi millionaire
It makes perfect sense when you consider that Destiny is a huge homosexual and Mel lifts more than him.
she makes pretty good money herself
yeah, such good money that she asked for money from Destiny after the divorce
i'm sure bezos' ex wife was broke, that's why she got half his 120 billions
because femboy chads keep winning.
high test
slim
big dick
pretty
>makes no sense why mel left a literal multi millionaire for some broke boy in sweden. I dont understand women anymore
potential
the boytoy shows potential while destiny is washed up
he's also rated higher on the oppression ladder
>makes no sense why mel left a literal multi millionaire for some broke boy in sweden
This is a GOOD thing you fricking degenerate moron. We want less gold diggers, less materialists and more lookists
It's just an excuse to dump him, after the divorce is finalized she will dump the femboy too
>makes no sense why mel left a literal multi millionaire for some broke boy in sweden
i'd rather be poor but with a cute boyfriend than rich and have to stay with fricking destiny of all people
i mean, look at him
and listen to him, for that matter
you are thinking of Adam22
Why do people follow this cuck, or give a single frick about anything he says, again?
Why would anyone have a picture of this homosexual saved to a device they own?
newbie
as for the rest of ya'll: is it feasible for AI to replace every fast food / retail worker in the next 10 years
Probably not. It'll likely just replace most white collar work. Unless we redistribute the means of production we're headed towards bronze age slave state dynamics. There's 0 motivation for the elite to give us UBI unless we force them to.
>Unless we redistribute the means of production
refer to
being unemployed was a crime in the ussr 🙂
you WILL slave and toll for 65 years
define "means of production"
Land and stocks, within a nation state of course.
>Is he right? Will AI actually replace all of the unskilled jobs?
Yes. Fire the majority of your labor force and pay them minimum wage UBI via the profits you made via cutting costs.
It's basic math and the logical end conclusion of techno-feudal capitalism
moronic or trolling?
>Why would anyone have a picture of this homosexual saved to a device they own?
moron, you are just as dumb as the streamers you watch.
People aren't fully appreciating the ramifications of autonomous super intelligence AI. It will be the end of "consumerism" as we know it. It will completely change how the world operates. It will fundamentally break the global reconciliation l economy. Humans will become the next zoo animal to be tended to and that's that.
no, because why would you gimp your own's state's productivity? the meaning of life is work
he's a useful idiot for globohomosexual and maybe one day he'll realize it
>ai will replace all jobs
Maybe it will replace some jobs
>use the profit universal basic income
Dont be a moron this is not going to happen from having less jobs and no one will use profit from anything to give people free shit, where is that delusion coming from?
>where is that delusion coming from?
These people really don't understand that no one outside of their tiny little bubble gives a frick about them. AI took your job and you cannot afford food? You're neutered and not a threat so you can starve. See all of human history for more examples of this happening.
He never said it would replace all jobs, he said it would replace the jobs that involve repetitive tasks
For the second half of your post: politicians have to give back to their constituents, if not they will be ousted from office and have a terrible reputation
Watching a middle aged midget "politics streamer" playing video games in his basement, sort your life out bucko.
>For the second half of your post: politicians have to give back to their constituents, if not they will be ousted from office and have a terrible reputation
AI won't be replacing almost anything outside of art anytime soon.
There's actually no evidence that was done because of AI. They're just getting rid of more useless diversity hires.
>yeah dude the people in power will just give me free money for sitting on my ass haha
>no they won't try to exterminate the general population once we become a useless waste of resources and a potential liability, you watch too much sci-fi!
>Is he right? Will AI actually replace all of the unskilled jobs?
yes, moron jobs will go away, and so will upper management jobs, which are also moron jobs. everyone in the middle will remain because they have skills and use their rains and hands. everyone on the bottom is totally fricked
I watched him some time ago, he was called "the unbeatable/best debater there is". But he switched opinions and even whole political camps faster than anyone else I've ever seen. He's like a bot himself, not standing for anything, just generating random incoherent opinions that crumble easily. All in all, his job will be the first one to get replaced by AI.
thank god, frick wagies
>minimum wage jobs
no
>unskilled jobs
yes
this is not a meritocracy, skill does not correlate to pay
a 6 figure "programmer" who spends most of his time browsing reddit and BOT will be replaced before a minimum wage cook
mrgirl chads, we won
>AI will replace the need for all minimum wage jobs
maybe in the far future, but what'll happen way sooner than that is that it'll turn high paying skilled jobs into unskilled prompt janny jobs.
>and we can use the profits to create UBI
and why the frick would the elites agree to that lol
AI will replace most jobs eventually, but not all.
Ultimately world without jobs is a world without money. People that don't have a good job or money are looking forward to such a system.
People with good jobs and lots of money are not not hoping for such a system.
Money = Power and status. Why would those with all the power worsen their position? Why would they give up all the power they have? Those with the power are the ones making the decisions and have the final say.
You will get your UBI and you will lose your job, but that is as far as it will go. There is not going to be a "post scarcity". There will always be money, and money will always signify status and give power.
Looking at the developments of the last 100 years and the trend is clear as a day. We will enter into a future where there are the Oligarch families or "Chaebols" as the Koreans call them. 1% to 10% of the population will be working alongside the robots doing jobs that AI can't be trusted to do or AI is not suited for. The rest of the 10 billion people live with UBI. It will be dystopian and it will be depressing. And that is how it will be by design; extremely depressing. Your life has no meaning, you have no freedom and no agency. Only the most hedonistic people can survive in such society. Others will probably end up walking to the nearest suicide pod and clocking out. Again, also by design.
Why wouldn't people just work on hobbies and self-investment projects?
I was out of work for a year and spent my time on a combination of a rigorous fitness program, /tg/ stuff and a few art and coding projects for my own enjoyment. I'd love it if that was my daily life. My job is fine, but if I had the means to just live without working I'd definitely do that.
>eventually, AI will replace the need for all minimum wage jobs
Yes
>and we can use the profits to create UBI
LMAO
I'm actually curious what the frick the USA will do when a huge portion of its population has no way to make money. Will the government just create/"stimulate" meme fake jobs that are less profitable than AI except for the fact that the government backs it so wageslaves can keep slaving?
Yes, except there won't be enough for everyone. More people will live on gibbs, and the majority will simply live in poverty, prison, or die in the streets.
>I'm actually curious what the frick the USA will do when a huge portion of its population has no way to make money.
we've been there before. it was called the Great Depression.
nothing, they will do nothing. america loves to demonize the USSR and shame them for their breadlines, while no one acknowledges that if the same situation happened in the USA that the govt and market would simply let them all starve to death. that’s american exceptionalism baby
>I'm actually curious what the frick the USA will do when a huge portion of its population has no way to make money
exterminate that huge portion of its population, your leader already hate your guts and the only reason you are allowed to live right now is to be a useful meatbag slave for shitty jobs and organs, once you lose that small leverage its bye bye time
And who will do that? You think if 90% of people have no jobs they will just have themselves killed by the 10%?
>You think if 90% of people have no jobs they will just have themselves killed by the 10%?
The 10% will just spin a narrative to have the 90% kill each other, as things are right now they require just a little push
>The 10%
more like the 0.001% tbh.
I'm basically part of the 10% myself and I don't like any of this shit senpai
>when a huge portion of its population has no way to make money
the "illegal immigrants" crossing the border to the tune of 3 millions of them last year will take care of the problem, machete style
> and we can use the profits to create UBI
lol yeah, that's what's going to happen with all that juicy excess money. we're just gonna give it away and circulate it back into our healthily burgeoning economy. you know, as America has an extensive history of doing. lol. lmao.
isn't this the same frick that defended capitalism with the argument that capitalist economies having a tendency to crash repeatedly is actually a good thing? what a fricking hack.
>11:11:11
time digits!
Guys, i just switched from plain text editor to IDE and HOLY SHIT it can compile or unterpret, has a Linker AND a debugger. This will drastically change IT because now FEWER programmers can get more of the work done. It's over for most of us!
100 :O?
how many have to be laid off at once by AI before you are concerned? this much
?
remember last year you were saying that AI wouldn't be able to replace anyone
nothing to do with AI
everything to do with correcting inflated salaries
The official story around these layoffs seems to be that it's due to automation lowering the value of human workers. Are you saying that's a coverup?
https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/13/tech/tech-layoffs-ai-investment/index.html
>Goldman Sachs economists said in a research note last March that as many as 300 million full-time jobs around the world could be lost or diminished by the rise of generative AI technology and that white-collar workers appeared to be most at risk.
Seems more likely that employers are expecting automation to solve more problems for them, so fewer humans are needed.
Honest opinion, anon? I probably hate AI even more than you do. I just want to understand where the world is heading.
>replace the need for all minimum wage jobs
lol
why would anyone work in the service industry if there was UBI? who would wait tables? the robutts?
Robotic waiters cost around 25k $, expect to see more of them in the future.
why do you put that assface at the start of your thread, wtf is wrong with ya
he's not the originator of the idea, he's a 5th degree shiteating anus in line of regurgitation
here's a higher degree narrative deliverer
moronic video and even more moronic comment section
are you eating ze bugs yet? Not everybody can be a robot polisher
he's far from the creep he's seen as btw
not a transhumanist, he advises strongly against modding humanity
> ~~*Yuval Noah Harari*~~
> ~~*Lex Fridman*~~
it never ends
this dude is such a whiny homosexual. stop posting him
Most unskilled jobs are manual
Whose profits? Company profits? Unless the use of AI becomes taxed, company profits won't do shit for us. The money has to come from the government
No it'll just increase income disparity
>AI will replace the need for all minimum wage jobs
might happen, maybe not all
>we can use the profits to create UBI
the profits? from private companies? he's so optimistic it's delusional but I love it. The truth is that companies have always pursued tax minimization. He is suggesting that companies will invest a ton of money to become autonomous, and the newfound insane profits will be taxed severely by the government to give out to everyone. In theory this will provide millions of people with the disposable income to drive up company profits, but in reality all business students learn how to pay as little tax as possible. There will never be a UBI while countries are run for maximum growth and profit. People don't matter as much as business unfortunately.
At some point profits no longer matter. If you can just 3d print car in 5 minutes there is no need to think about profits.
>There will never be a UBI while countries are run for maximum growth and profit. People don't matter as much as business unfortunately.
Wasn't the Left supposed to fix this? What happened?
the left will never give up trying but there are no left governments. All the western developed countries form governments which are centre right or right. None of them are interested in a UBI. Only the scandi countries would dare even try.
>there is no need to think about profits.
that's not how billionaires think. if you had even 10million you and your whole family and all your friends are set for life. The rich pursue wealth in a psychopathic way, and our societies indulge the sickness by worshipping them for it.
>The rich pursue wealth in a psychopathic way
I guess. The scenario that I proposed is unrealistic anyway, AI will not lead to such wealth that we can 3d print cars in 5 minutes or have infinite energy and food.
But if we really had that wealth it would be a completely different situation than anything before. Aristocrats fought against the masses many time to preserve their power and wealth but they also knew that giving up power meant living in the same shitty conditions as the peasants did, will they really want to risk their lives if they can have more than enough wealth anyway? Will the army support them?
It also depends on how many people will become useless, if it's just 10% it's easy to suppress them, but if it's 99% then people would have to be moronic not to just take that wealth.
>Aristocrats fought against the masses many time to preserve their power and wealth
when that bailout happened it was war against the masses. the bankers who fricked the world economy were given absolutely insane 100mil bonuses. until billionaires are taxed out of existence you know you're losing the war. and before any dumb fricks spouts the 'without the rich who will start companies and innovate' remember it was the high taxes which funded the research and development which led to all modern computers and the internet. american workers paid high taxes and had a high quality of life. houses were affordable. if say you paid 100% tax over say an income of 10million per year, then there would be the money for another century of absolutely insane innovation and improvements in quality of life. That will never happen because the united states is a plutocracy.
Those bailouts didn't really affect me, also most people still had jobs at that time. I simply can't imagine how a small minority would be able to control the majority, without giving them incentives. People still have those incentives at the moment but they wouldn't in the dystopia that some people are imagining. Google or Meta might have a piece of paper that says that the AI and the replicators and the nuclear fusion reactors are theirs but what will they do if 350 million people just decide to take it? When every soldier and policeman has dozens of friend and relatives that are starving, despite there being infinite resources in the hands of those tech firms? You only own things as long as you can protect them or trick people into protecting them for you.
>Those bailouts didn't really affect me
they robbed your government of money which everyone including you could have benefitted from. Even if it was just infrastructure you use.
>You only own things as long as you can protect them or trick people into protecting them for you
I agree but the police have tanks now and they exist to protect capital wealth from poor people taking it. the police unions are strong so they will always get paid enough that they will do as they are told. I doubt there will ever be a revolution, the only change can come politically.
if I was to say anything good about destiny it's that he is using his platform to get people to think about things being different
problem is when do we decide that is? We already automate a shit ton of jobs compared to a few centuries ago, yet you'll be laughed at if you suggest any form of UBI today.
So when do we decide "now" we have automated enough? When literally 99% of people dont have jobs anymore? We'll have faced economical collapse long before then due to joblessness
This moronic manlet knows nothing about """"AI""""" let alone the ramifications of what we may eventually have, just like the alignment morons he talks about this as if we are around the corner of scifi tier AI, when in reality we use the same tech since 2017 for all of these dumb gimmick services which are really just gigantic statistical models and nothing more. All fields.
we could have used the profits of industrialization for "UBI" for 200 years
>e-celeb that knows nothing about the subject matter talks dunning-kruger
many such cases.
yes but it won't be nice
Why is he on that bandwagon? It's not AI that will automate everything it's technological progress altogether. He used to be actually analytical when he did his debates with people, now he seems to just be a bandwagoner, building relationships to promote himself rather than saying things because he thinks they're true. He used to call out others on having responsibility in making judgments on events too quickly if you have a large following, and call people out on platforming the wrong people, now he does both with little regard for it.
Not till manual automation becomes cost effective, meaning cheap. Current "AI" tools while nifty are rather shit still. UBI is a nice pipedream. but lets be real, people are too fricking moronic to accept it. Much like those who need to fear God in order to be well behaved and civilized there are those who need to work for the exact same reason. Like it or not that includes the rat race. Not everyone is build to handle decadence and hedonism. Some people literally go nuts.