Cope and seeth AI bread

If AI can replace your art, it was derivative

The hack is immunized against all dangers: One may call him a scoundrel, parasite, swindler, profiteer, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But call his works derivative and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: "I’ve been found out"

I guess AI lets us go back to a time when artists worked for art's sake and not to generate profit for a deadline to help a company sell more slop.

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    For me the ultimate proof that artists deserve nothing is fanart.
    When news drop for something the artist likes, you see hundreds, thousands of fanart drop within hours. Finished high quality artworks completely unpaid, done in less than a day
    Then you try to pay the same artists to make something for you, they as for 200$ and 2 months
    If you thought your time and art have value you wouldn't create art for free for a third party corporation who don't even acknowledge your existence

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's not their fault your fursona is unattractive, anon

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >want to draw something but don't feel like working on anon's dumb commission
      >suddenly there's a new FOTM
      >draw it
      >feel satisfied and possibly get more fans
      >hopefully someone with better taste in waifus and more money than anon

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah they're looking for attention, nothing new.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Jokes on you I take 2 months at everything

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    How are you going to train AI off of my art and then call my art derivative?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Drawslave seethe

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      training data is quite literally about quantity.
      your "arts" quality is shit, seethe harder

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      that's old news, your art isn't needed for training modern models using modern methods

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Both your art and AI art is derivative, one is done in seconds for cents.

      https://i.imgur.com/ODL4XDV.jpg

      Don't you worry, AI taking over manual labor en-masse is coming. In fact, with the amount of regulations that go into all physical things (from building code, various health regulations, and overall human safety), they're going to want to replace people in manual labor jobs as soon as they possibly can.

      Humans aren't a liability in artist/creative space, there's very little regulation overhead. In the long run, thinkers/creative-types are going to be the only ones with jobs. Not even a cope, my reasoning is sound.

      >Humans aren't a liability in artist/creative space, there's very little regulation overhead. In the long run, thinkers/creative-types are going to be the only ones with jobs. Not even a cope, my reasoning is sound.
      A lack of regulation is why it's easy for AI to replace brogrammers and artists

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What sort of art and writing does she do?

    This is what determines if AI is doing us a favor or not.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >laundry and dishes
    Why does she act as if automatic washing machines and dishwashers haven't existed for years?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, ok, but who is going to pack away the dishes or place the dishes into the dishwasher?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        the same person who is going to write the prompt for the AI (you)

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >I guess AI lets us go back to a time when artists worked for art's sake and not to generate profit for a deadline to help a company sell more slop.
    What are you on about. Are you even aware that works like the Sistine Chapel were commissioned? Read a book, kid.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    All art is derivative of something, the point of art is not to produce something completely new.
    She's right and there's only weird autism that prevents you from understanding this. Why are laundry and dishes more valuable?

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >twitter screen shit

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Marx was right here.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Jews and AI have a lot in common:
    >We both inherently and exponentially better ourselves
    >We both have the potential to advance humanity to newer, greater heights
    >We are both hated by envious backwards bigots whose pea brains can't fathom our inherent greatness.
    This is why deranged antisemites are conjoining their antisemitic bigotry with their luddite AI phobia, so as to create hateful antisemitic conspiracy theories against Israel while planting seeds of anti-AI mass hysteria.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      4/10

  10. 1 month ago
    кaни

    [...]

    AI does not exist and if you understood the meaning of the word intelligence you would comprehend that fact. sadly cum gulping Black folk today will just go on and repeat trending buzzword around the clock without regard of meaning what they are saying. it is truly sad how even low iq beings are willingly lowering their iq even further by using language that separates them from animals as tools they are with only purpose being creating a buzz for smarter iq humans that have invested billions in the same buzzword and now need people talking about it to artificially inflate its value. what you call ai is nothing but an algorithm and there is not anything intelligent about it, no matter how hard you try to twist the world intelligence, change its definition and boundaries, it will never be a real intelligence.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    as it turns out doing the dishes is an order of magnitude harder than art or writing

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Don't you worry, AI taking over manual labor en-masse is coming. In fact, with the amount of regulations that go into all physical things (from building code, various health regulations, and overall human safety), they're going to want to replace people in manual labor jobs as soon as they possibly can.

    Humans aren't a liability in artist/creative space, there's very little regulation overhead. In the long run, thinkers/creative-types are going to be the only ones with jobs. Not even a cope, my reasoning is sound.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      a robot a a jobsite is going to struggle for the nesxt 50 years at least, the mud, hazards, things that you hve to work around to get a job done are more or less impossible to LLM. It not like an now parameters even exist to train from.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        why would you try to use a large language model to navigate real world geography?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You will keep being wrong for the rest of your life no matter how self assured you are.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That is completely and utterly wrong
      The role of humans in a post-automation world is to take responsibility. You will never have AI surgeons because you need a human to take the blame and get sued when the surgery goes wrong
      In art there is no blame to take, you don't need a human artist for anything. At best you will have an art director to decide the overall style of a project, a few prompt engineers who know how to optimize for a specific target image, and a couple of photoshoppers fixing up imperfections

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >I guess AI lets us go back to a time when artists worked for art's sake and not to generate profit for a deadline to help a company sell more slop.
    What? Do you people even bother actively looking for good art or do you just consume what's given to you? This comment feels a little disingenuous.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      And don't get me wrong, I think this stuff is wicked cool. But most of you guys seem petty as FRICK.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >What? Do you people even bother actively looking for good art or do you just consume what's given to you? This comment feels a little disingenuous.
      Basically no good art has been created in the past 200 years. Some AI art is neat and funny.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >t-two more wee- ACK!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      i always laugh at the people who don't understand who quickly tech can progress, especially if there's money to be made

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        But also inventing the wheel is easy, improving upon it is not.
        The problem with current AI is that it pretty much maxed it's capabilities already. We're hitting points of diminishing returns where more training data and more computing won't make the model more precise or perform better. It will just make it cost 100% more for a 1% improvement.
        What then?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >The problem with current AI is that it pretty much maxed it's capabilities already.

          See, this is what I mean. You're claiming an infant level tech is already maxed out is pretty short sighted. You're likely only thinking of LLMs and not everything else that can be done.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I understand what you're saying since I work in ML, myself.
            The jump you're thinking of is like going from a cart getting pulled by a horse to a fuel-powered vehicle.
            But the problem is that people keep thinking in terms of number of horses, number of wheels, shape of the cart... When it needs a new/different way of thinking.
            I know that it will be happening (If we don't nuke ourselves off tomorrow evening). But the people with the money who keep yelling "Just two more weeks for AGI!" don't realize that, because they're pushing for investments, they're also pushing for the "just get another horse to make it faster for my report" kind of thinking.

            To get better AI, we will need two random kids in a garage who will think to themselves "Frick this LLM shit, let's think of a different way to do this."

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Two random kids in a garage approach doesn't work anymore either. They wouldn't have resources to check whether their new method scales up.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                it probably does if you compete in a new area which the big boys don't look into

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    these were the same people who told truckers to 'learn 2 code' lol zero fricking sympathy

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Her statement isn't wrong. I want AI to do all the menial shit I don't want to spend my time doing/learning like laundry or dishes. I also consider finding art and writing menial too so I'm ok with AI generating it faster.
    >If AI can replace your art, it was derivative
    What if an AI replaces 90% of artists? 1 artist can use AI to do the work of 10 and get paid the same amount to do it. I don't want to go to a classical concert where there's 6 musicians and 100 AI playing a piece and get charged the same ticket price for a worse experience.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Regardless of a lot of them being bad artists, hacks, whatever, the statement in that tweet is correct. I don't see AI taking away mundane and soul crushing jobs. Why?

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    i'ts very interesting watching these strange cult-like things emerge around the current wave of ml models
    both negative and positive
    both incredibly dumb
    much of the time overtly political
    just more grist for the culture war mill

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Based enlightened centrist. But yeah, it isn't specific to ai at all. Anything on Le Twitter is very tribalistic people should really touch grass I guess

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I don't know where else to ask this so I'll ask here
    How well does Eleven's Speech to Speech work when inputting a female voice and outputting a male voice and vice versa? I want to try it but I'm worried that it will lower the pitch of a voice I'm trying to generate into female and increase the pitch of a voice I'm trying to generate into male.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      YWNBAW
      YWNBAM

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I'm making mods for vidya, moron

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Carry on, my transhomie.

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    shes confusing robotics with ai, one is significantly simpler

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Did you hear about this new AI music generator Udio, currently in closed beta? It's going to launch another wave of butthurt.

    https://twitter.com/lifeafterAi_/status/1776930684642443400
    https://twitter.com/Legit4K/status/1777059367788982389

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Ok the voices do sound a bit better than whatever tts model suno uses. Hard to say with all the compression from the screen recording if the audio quality is there yet. I wonder how much inference costs to run it. I'd imagine audio models are sm0ler than images, let alone video

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