CHATGPT - FRAUD, HYPE, and a MECHANICAL TURK

FIRST: If you're legit stupid, don't even engage with what I'm about to say.

CHATGPT/LLMs ARE FRAUD AND HYPE - THEY ARE THE NEW MECHANICAL TURKS

They COMPLETELY fail at reasoning and no amount of parameters or training data can fix this.

LLMs dont do anything, all they can do is write emails and help people with homework, and code a bit faster.

I have given GPT4 simple logic problems that a 6th grader could solve and GPT4 can simply not do them because they are very reason based.

Take a reasoning problem and drastically reword so it's not pulling off it's trained data and you will see what I mean.

For instance, if the logic problem dealt with an arrangement of colored blocks, change it to sports equipment items and put a narrative around it.

WHY?

Because, it is ultimately picking the next word and it's been trained on most logic textbooks so all the common questions it has already seen, but when you throw in weird objects it greatly increases the chances it picks and obscure next word and you will then see all the "reasoning" breakdown.

It cannot reason, therefore, it is only useful for doing work that was pointless to begin with.

It will never produce anything new or be able to be used as a decision system in any area with novel situations, as it will inevitably "hallucinate".

>inb4, have multiple LLMs to argue with each other to induce reasoning

Nonsensical, at the best case this is asymptotic, even if you kept reducing the chances by adding another layer by 20% it will never get to zero, and for many decision systems it must be zero. You cant have your checkout price on a vendor be correct, 99% of time, it has to be determined correctly 100% of the time, which it does under logic based systems.

Statistic has proven to be very practical, but in the end the world requires logic and reasoning, something LLMs can only simulate, therefore they will never achieve "AGI" or replace humans in reason based systems.

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  1. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    this post looks like you wrote it on a typewriter
    go back

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      shut the frick up. If this is bait, bit.

      he's right though y'know, it is fricking useless, 90% of people on this Earth are moronic normies more useless than an "AI"

  2. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    shut the frick up. If this is bait, bit.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      If people were not so irrational i would short every single one of these AI companies, but the problem is, as we see here, morons are immune to the truth so this hype could go on for a long long time, but eventually you will see the biggest crash ever in AI related stocks.

      this post looks like you wrote it on a typewriter
      go back

      The place where every moron is talking about the "singulairty" a total non sensical new age religious movement that you believe in.

      also this isnt mother fricking spam post it now

  3. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Furthermore, now that the open source models have been leaked we can see that many of them achieve the exact same quality of output as one running locally on an RTX 3090.

    LET THAT SINK IN

    A $3,000 LLM is almost the same effectiveness as a a $10,000,000,000 LLM fine tuned by the worlds best machine learning experts.

    Oh and it's machine learning, no such thing as "artificial intelligence".

  4. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    eel o eel

  5. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Doomers fighting the hype train, thinking they're not a part of it
    Who cares?
    Also tl;dr, meds, etc

  6. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >it is only useful for doing work that was pointless to begin with
    Our whole society is built around this

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      trvke

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        I am unfamiliar with this meme. Please explain.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          trvth nvke, you need to be lectured by the sharty

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yes. Please provide input stream for lecturing.

            I know...so nothing will change...it would be a threat to jobs if it actually did real work...but it can only do jobs that shouldnt exist in the first place...so why would these bullshit jobs suddenly not exist under "AI"...they dont need to exist under basic "if" statements in an excel spreadsheet from 1995

            We are due for the mass existential crisis COVID did not manage to fully deliver. We desperately need it, and we will go extinct if we don't promote our goals pronto.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      I know...so nothing will change...it would be a threat to jobs if it actually did real work...but it can only do jobs that shouldnt exist in the first place...so why would these bullshit jobs suddenly not exist under "AI"...they dont need to exist under basic "if" statements in an excel spreadsheet from 1995

  7. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    i ask elisip code and it gives me working elisp code
    good enough

  8. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Hey when you say GPT-4 could you perhaps give us a chat log of one of these conversations you had with it? Make sure to include the GPT logo on the left hand side there too.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      hehe nice try, me no dox self or give ChatGPT free training data.

      What chatgpt does (im almost certain but cant prove it) is that everytime someone posts a clear problem it cant do is that they have people go do the problem and go reprompt it and tune it.

      It also happens passively where peopel go do it themselves and keep reprompting it till it arrives as the right answer and then thumbs up the answer.

      That way when it gets a similar one it knows to go to the thumbs upped answer that was similar.

      It's basically a super elaborate systems of "canned dialogue".

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        All I want is for you to show us the little purple/green icon and how you're prompting the thing

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          if it really was smart it would have converted the kg into lb instead

  9. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    t.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

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  10. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Your rant is only valid because the entire world is trying to get LLMs to do fricking random shit
    If people understood that LLMs are good at analyzing language and generating words they'd be amazed at how well it performs on appropriate tasks
    Like, yeah you can hit some nails with heavy pliers, but if you pick up a hammer it's another story

  11. 7 months ago
    Anonymous
  12. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    You're right, which is why Q* isn't just an LLM

  13. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    @97489002 (OP)
    @97489064
    @97489362
    Is someone paying you to spam this trite or are you just capitalizing off of the OpenAI drama for easy (You)s?
    Either way, you're an contrarian attention prostitute and should kys.

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