I'm looking for scholarly essays or books or papers on the topic of capitalism as AI. I know Nick Land writes about this but I want some other source.
I found this institute whose research topic is exactly what I'm looking for but it doesn't provide any source material on their website.
https://ai.objectives.institute/blog/8gwiqyoxcbuzfuc707vz0qb4zugp2g
My diary tbh
Wtf is capitalism as AI
Capitalism fits the mathematical definition of artificial general intelligence
you will not find land's concept of capitalism as AI anywhere else bc it is a unique blend of cybernetics, deleuzoguattarian thought and kantianism
capitalism is not "just an AI" it is the transcendental subject which devellopes itself through critique within itself as a runaway positive feed back loop that is intelligent but not consious or hierachical in structure
kek. why does it have to be capitalism? wouldn't your description better fit technology?
in land's view capitalism and technology are essentially the same thing and so he prefers his own term "techno-capital"
There's an entire institute dedicated to the study of capitalism as AI, I literally posted the link in the OP, what do you mean only Land uses the concept?
they use it in a superficial cybernetic way not as a landian concept of deleuzoguattarian origin
Well I'm looking for essays or books on the superficial cybernetic way then.
Been trying to put this into words since I started reading Mark Fisher, as he only beats around the bush about this concept. Thank you.
In fact, if we accept this as true, what hope is there for those who oppose capitalist realism? How can any human construct compete with a force of nature?
The idea that this case is special is moronic. These "intelligent runaway feedback loops" are everywhere and people have been talking about them forever.
But is that true of the most common alternatives to capitalism? I like the idea of socialism but as a construct it's not capable of self-critique. Its structures will always be enfeebled over time, which leads to either an impotent state or a despotic one. Unless it's propped up on capitalist crutches.
Large scale effects can depend on the most minor details. A system that's going into harmful feedback loops may work completely as intended after a tiny adjustment.
In programming almost everything is done with these kinds of loops. A minor error in the logic can make the loops eat up all resources and crash the environment. That "capitalism" has the ability to loop just means it's an advanced system with the capability to do large scale things.
If you employ a demon give him strict instructions and checks or he will find ways to undermine your real goals.
If a Djinn gives you a wish you may wish for gold. It gives you gold but at the expense of everything else which are the things you actually wanted the gold for. If your wish is precise enough it may benefit you but in the case of a Djinn you can't know, you can't debug him and the chances you wish correctly in the first try are almost zero.
Changes to critical systems in active use have to be done slowly based on very basic proven principles not by chasing the latest theories.
It's just evolutionary theory.
How is the concept of paperclip maximizer part of evolutionary theory
The purpose of life is to reproduce. So if life produces a life maximizer, it is in line with what life is.
No, the entire point of a paperclip maximizer is that its objective is in direct opposition to human evolutionary objectives.
The paperclip maximizer is an example of a failure mode of the maximizer. But there is nothing proving that we can only end up with a paperclip maximizer and not a life maximizer. Capitalism and life have had a good relationship throughout history.
You think the aggregate maximization of capital over all capitalist entreprises on Earth account to a life maximizer? Nice one
Ok, some other way of phrasing it.
I'm looking for books or essays that explore the idea of capitalism as a paperclip maximizer
Literally just Adam Smith or any microeconomic textbook as long as you understand analogies and don’t need him to specifically say “AI”.
> Quickly, the scientists discovered that when they placed electrodes in specific areas of the brain, the rats would repeatedly press the lever up to 2000 times per hour, preferring to press the lever over most other stimulation. This act of hacking the brain’s reward system via electrical stimulation was later dubbed “wireheading.”
This should be commercially available by now.
> Can we get *language models* to understand the lived human experience? (Emphasis mine)
No
>Can we produce actionable, democratic feedback for economic policy with them?
No
> How might solutions to mitigating reward hacking in economic, political, or biological systems apply to the development of artificial intelligence? Could this give us ideas about how to improve markets?
>How do we stabilize complex, adaptive, self-ramming systems?
>As we build more and more flexible systems, can we prevent them from going haywire because of their reward functions?
This is the kind of person that think Katrina wouldn’t have destroyed NO if the levy were a bit higher, not seeing the original mistake in trying to live inside of the ocean.
>No
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>No
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>This is the kind of person that think Katrina wouldn’t have destroyed NO if the levy were a bit higher, not seeing the original mistake in trying to live inside of the ocean.
What do you propose then? Dismantling capitalism?
>a ***language model***
They either don’t know what they’re saying or they’re intentionally bullshitting to run some kind of scam.
>What do you propose then? Dismantling capitalism?
The false security of the “protective”/“guiding” systems worsen the failures, and creates the perverse optimal behavior of acting as though a low-trust environment is a high-trust one. If they didn’t know they would get bailed out and protected from any real harm people wouldn’t get up to half the shit they do.
Less laws, more death penalties.
> we could co-parent an evolutionary AI
There needs to be a hunting season from May to October on grindset psychos vomiting tech buzzwords with zero understanding of what they’re saying in concrete terms. That is my proposed fix to the various reward functions of the human experiment.
To relate these ideas to ancient ones use the established terminology. Demons, spirits etc.
Yes, capitalism as a demon is an interesting one too. Personally, I'm waiting for Ian Wright's book on that one.
Problem is few people talk about anything honestly and least of all people that like the word "capitalism". "Capitalism as AI/demon" implies heavily you're taking part in contemporary propaganda. "The mechanisms of communities/trade as AI/demons" implies you're actually talking about the subject instead of propagandizing.
checkout teilhard de chardin's concept of the noosphere