So you are saying that AI would make China into a shithole because it was trained on low iq westerners? Seems right. But Chinese would use their own AI, not western one
not in the case of apple but that happens all the time
>happens all the time
Literally only with national security. Meanwhile in China it’s odd if the state doesn’t go to bat for their international corps, be them vital infrastructure or a simple holding like Tencent.
China is a lot more involved with their international corps compared to the U.S.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>UN is pro China
WUT
8 months ago
Anonymous
The UN isn’t a good source of unbiased graphs.
For instance, why is it per capita? What exactly is that graph attempting to show?
8 months ago
Anonymous
>What exactly is that graph attempting to show?
That China still had lower mortality than it's neighbors during the famine? It shows that what is considered famine in China is just business as usual for Indonesia and India
8 months ago
Anonymous
That’s not at all what the graph says though.
It shows that famine affected all of the nations, and lasted longer in Indonesia and India.
Remind me again, when was Mao in power?
8 months ago
Anonymous
From 1950 to about 1976 if I remember correctly
8 months ago
Anonymous
>Literally only with national security
as if bro, all social media cooperate closely with letter soup agencies, spacex and tesla get a shit ton of money from the government for no reason, gov will turn their head when tax system is abused, recently nvidia has been working closely with the government
if you think there is a single company worth billions that hasn't been contacted by the feds or other parts of the gov you're fricking stupid i dont know what to tell you
in japan all car manufacturers and big tech corpos were funded by government, same in south korea
>UN is pro China
WUT
you're unaware
8 months ago
Anonymous
I’m still waiting on your examples of when the US state has pressured foreign states on behalf of a U.S. corp. it’s literally only for weapons manufacturers.
Not the greatest look, but saying this is the same as China is literally moronic. You’re actually a moron if you believe anyone in the world does this more than China.
8 months ago
Anonymous
nvidia, cars, tech imports from japan, intel, tiktok, prism, oil, bananas in latin america
>subsidies (free gifts to private companies like tesla to produce more cars in whatever way they want) are the same as central planning (the government making detailed plans on how state enterprises should produce, how much should they produce and what they should charge)
kek
>conveniently ignores half of the post
8 months ago
Anonymous
>subsidies (free gifts to private companies like tesla to produce more cars in whatever way they want) are the same as central planning (the government making detailed plans on how state enterprises should produce, how much should they produce and what they should charge)
kek
8 months ago
Anonymous
>For no reason
You can just say that you have no fricking idea what you are talking about instead, would be more accurate.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>Source UN
The UN's mortality data is not gathered by independent research by the UN, but rather it is what national statistic offices report. So that data is just the UN collecting what China and Mao said the mortality rate was, rather than the actual mortality rates.
tl;dr: the ultimate source is really the Chinese government.
Source: https://unstats.un.org/unsd/demographic/sconcerns/mortality/default.htm
8 months ago
Anonymous
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Let’s also not ignore the obvious >China 2020: everything you know is wrong
Why would there be pro Chinese propaganda being produced by a world organization in 2020? It’s clear this graphic is pro-China.
Reality has a pro Chinese bias
8 months ago
Anonymous
Or, the Chinese state pays for propaganda.
Hence this graphic
https://i.imgur.com/vfTa9ui.png
Didn't even make a dent in the graph
>everything you know is a lie
Literal propaganda 101 lol
8 months ago
Anonymous
Is the Chinese state in the room with us right now?
8 months ago
Anonymous
Anon, everything you know about China is a lie.
8 months ago
Anonymous
have fun getting skinned alive by an escalator
8 months ago
Anonymous
>UN is pro China
WUT
Let’s also not ignore the obvious >China 2020: everything you know is wrong
Why would there be pro Chinese propaganda being produced by a world organization in 2020? It’s clear this graphic is pro-China.
Dengism is not authoritarian capitalism. Are you saying Tito was an authoritarian capitalist? lmao.
How can they be capitalist if they centrally plan half of their economy
1. no
2. they don't need to
3. "AI" doesn't mean anything
you can do central planning with regular algorithms, but they probably don't even use computers for the actual planning, just pen and paper (may get digitalized after the fact)
You're still trusting fallible humans to put the correct numbers into the computer.
Good thing Chinese regional politicians and administrators have never been overly optimistic about their economic stats in order to impress the central government...
Likely. They're also likely training their AI on medical data, genetic data, so that AI can get their citizens proper health care based upon their sex/age and various micro conditions that body has. The sort of targetted treatment plan is illegal in the US because its racist/sexist
Can China use artificial intelligence to perfect central planning?
Can China use artificial intelligence to perfect central planning?
Can reddit stop bringing its "banter" here?
If you feed worlds history into it, Ai would decide to get rid of commie shit altogether
This. In the same way AI becomes race realist when fed with crime data.
So you are saying that AI would make China into a shithole because it was trained on low iq westerners? Seems right. But Chinese would use their own AI, not western one
>low iq westerners
and that has nothing to do with westerners https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_communist_regimes
China would still be a shithole if not for Mao and Deng and Xi
Of course, imagine China with even more mouths to feed.
Mao did them a favor by wiping out millions. Truly the savior of China!
>not the heckin landlords
>millions and millions of… landlords
what a moronic comment lmao
If there are hundreds of million of people yeah there are millions of landlords
did they steal anything? no? just worked hard? disgusting!
>did they steal anything?
Yes
>just worked hard?
The peasants did all work for them as is tradition
What did they streal?
From who?
Didn't even make a dent in the graph
>source UN
lul
>happens all the time
Literally only with national security. Meanwhile in China it’s odd if the state doesn’t go to bat for their international corps, be them vital infrastructure or a simple holding like Tencent.
China is a lot more involved with their international corps compared to the U.S.
>UN is pro China
WUT
The UN isn’t a good source of unbiased graphs.
For instance, why is it per capita? What exactly is that graph attempting to show?
>What exactly is that graph attempting to show?
That China still had lower mortality than it's neighbors during the famine? It shows that what is considered famine in China is just business as usual for Indonesia and India
That’s not at all what the graph says though.
It shows that famine affected all of the nations, and lasted longer in Indonesia and India.
Remind me again, when was Mao in power?
From 1950 to about 1976 if I remember correctly
>Literally only with national security
as if bro, all social media cooperate closely with letter soup agencies, spacex and tesla get a shit ton of money from the government for no reason, gov will turn their head when tax system is abused, recently nvidia has been working closely with the government
if you think there is a single company worth billions that hasn't been contacted by the feds or other parts of the gov you're fricking stupid i dont know what to tell you
in japan all car manufacturers and big tech corpos were funded by government, same in south korea
you're unaware
I’m still waiting on your examples of when the US state has pressured foreign states on behalf of a U.S. corp. it’s literally only for weapons manufacturers.
Not the greatest look, but saying this is the same as China is literally moronic. You’re actually a moron if you believe anyone in the world does this more than China.
nvidia, cars, tech imports from japan, intel, tiktok, prism, oil, bananas in latin america
>conveniently ignores half of the post
>subsidies (free gifts to private companies like tesla to produce more cars in whatever way they want) are the same as central planning (the government making detailed plans on how state enterprises should produce, how much should they produce and what they should charge)
kek
>For no reason
You can just say that you have no fricking idea what you are talking about instead, would be more accurate.
>Source UN
The UN's mortality data is not gathered by independent research by the UN, but rather it is what national statistic offices report. So that data is just the UN collecting what China and Mao said the mortality rate was, rather than the actual mortality rates.
tl;dr: the ultimate source is really the Chinese government.
Source: https://unstats.un.org/unsd/demographic/sconcerns/mortality/default.htm
Reality has a pro Chinese bias
Or, the Chinese state pays for propaganda.
Hence this graphic
>everything you know is a lie
Literal propaganda 101 lol
Is the Chinese state in the room with us right now?
Anon, everything you know about China is a lie.
have fun getting skinned alive by an escalator
Let’s also not ignore the obvious
>China 2020: everything you know is wrong
Why would there be pro Chinese propaganda being produced by a world organization in 2020? It’s clear this graphic is pro-China.
China would still be a shithole if they didn't go authoritarian capitalism economically because communism only works for famine
Dengism is not authoritarian capitalism. Are you saying Tito was an authoritarian capitalist? lmao.
How can they be capitalist if they centrally plan half of their economy
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Cybersyn
>le reddit vaporware
bro reddit hates china
1. no
2. they don't need to
3. "AI" doesn't mean anything
you can do central planning with regular algorithms, but they probably don't even use computers for the actual planning, just pen and paper (may get digitalized after the fact)
ai 5g
NOOO why
China why
China please no
You're still trusting fallible humans to put the correct numbers into the computer.
Good thing Chinese regional politicians and administrators have never been overly optimistic about their economic stats in order to impress the central government...
>china
>central planning
what year is this 1980?
China still has five year plans and centrally plans all state enterprises and state industries. There is just a market economy beside them now
sounds like checks and balances to me
I don't know what that means but improving their five year plans is very important for China so they should look into it
Nope, govt still owns all the land lol
that's true everywhere. read leviathan
countries like US and japan cooperate with other companies under the table all the time it's not different
It’s very different. The US doesn’t make responding to Apple getting snubbed in Europe a part of its economic strategy.
not in the case of apple but that happens all the time
Yes, the US military already uses AI to determine where resources should be distributed and plan logistics. It should be able to scale.
China just keeps winning
you mean Chile?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Cybersyn
Chile got CIA'd, China is still going stronk
CIA Black folk are scared of china
Ive already stated like 5 years ago that what we would call sentient Ai would be put in charge of a corporation or nation.
bugmen are already robots with skin on top so sure why not
Likely. They're also likely training their AI on medical data, genetic data, so that AI can get their citizens proper health care based upon their sex/age and various micro conditions that body has. The sort of targetted treatment plan is illegal in the US because its racist/sexist