>be professional artist
> Ai art is better in every concievable way
>all my life training for nothing
>cant even pick up a pencil anymore because whats the point
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>be professional artist. > Ai art is better in every concievable way. >all my life training for nothing
Learn to use and incorporate Ai into your art like every generation of artists have ever had to do with new technology. Being an “artist” goes well beyond the physical medium.
This. I make music so its not replaced by AI yet, but for cover art i use real images with ai images mix them together in whatever I envision in my mind for that song
Soundcloud rapper?
Spotify i just do it for fun tho not trying to "make it"
Mainstream music has been using AI for a decade.
Mainly for audio cleaning and generating lyrics/music notes.
I worked at IBM as a code monkey when I first graduated and had to work on this shit for Universal music.
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>not replaced by AI yet
https://wwe.youtube.com/watch?v=H7xVML_TfB8
Lmao, AI music will literally be out in just two weeks, you damn hippie. As it is, most modern pop music that the goyim love is just keyboard demo drum tracks with some Black person noises over it. Musicians are definitely next on the AI chopping block.
Why do people need AI music when there's Teknoaxe? His music library is enormous and he doesnt even ask for credit, he wants eveyone to use his music for free forever.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtgf00GvfFQVsYBA7V7RwUw
This disruption is a lot different than a new generation of tools, the ai art generators are trained on artist's original work, there are a number of lawsuits in the works. OP has a legitimate reason to an hero
>NOOOOO MY ART HAS TO BE ORIGINAL NOW
I'm reading that in wienerney for some reason...
So the same for every generation that used the innovations of the past to make their art.
Muh lawsuits. Yawn.
>AI pulls from other peoples work!
This is a hyper cope. The only way you can say you haven't done the same thing, knowingly or unknowingly, is if you lived in a cave with zero human contact and no access to media of any kind.
>use AI to amplify your art
this will also get replaced within the next few years, you stupid fricking Black person.
>studying art for an actual career in the worst time possible
Lol.
Lmao.
Who the frick cares i make music for me not for a career im a psychologist
this thread is for art gays that do it for a living, you blind strawman Black person.
>this will also get replaced within the next few years, you stupid fricking Black person.
Then work really fricking hard for the next three years. Work 100 hours a week. Suck off your fans online. Pile up more commissions than anyone in history. Get enough fans and they'll even support you for a few years after they "have" to as part of the classic parasocial e-grift.
If I was the last Scribe working and I found out about movable type print, I'd work harder so that I could set myself up with some chickens and a garden or something, not waste any time crying.
This. But you should also start looking for day jobs
most artists don't make money off their art, not even a side gig
most artists have day jobs from plumber to doctors
and i don't just mean your aunt who likes to paint misshapen cats. people who can be considered good
This. Just make a resume of your art then go see the art buyers in person. Look them in the eye and give them a form handshake. Kids today are so lazy.
>get a job fixing fingers and teeth
>incorporate Ai into your art like every generation of artists have ever had to do with new technology.
1. give 5 examples (bet you can't)
2. the only technology that posed any serious threat to artists was photography, and that only threatened artist who attempted to document reality (which, admittedly, was a huge number of artists)
This, AI assisted animation will give artists the ability to do whole episodes by themselves. It’s a force multiplier
i have lived all my life waiting for the day artgays would get BTFO and kill themselves what a time to be alive i love my ai overlord
this is only in your head the fundies still pull their 25k/month patreon scamms and paintings for 60k+++
>b But i must work a whole year like a slave for 60k
NOT MY PROBLEM
Strange life goal. But whatever floats your boat.
It really is beautiful to witness. Not all artists are deserving of that fate, but most.
this is you
To be fair, modt artists don't even do their own work, they hire ghost artists to do it for them, slap their name and life trauma on it and sell it.
The problem is that you are a "professional artist". What you're doing isn't art. It's regurgitating images using a computer. So a.i replaced you, because you were never an artist in the first place. Nothing you ever did was original and you only ever tried to fit a corporate mould. Guess what? They replaced the mould and don't need you any more. Same thing happened to the homosexual ass "artists" at WoTC.
Exactly. This will return 'art' to the domain where it really belongs.
I am pretty sure ai will be able to do my job as well and its seems ai images will not be copyrightable so I doubt companies will pay for things they cant own.
Clay
AI art is really good for Dark Ambient You Tube thumbnails.
I'm saying this as an artist myself. My last painting sold for $49k after 2 hours on the private gallery wall.
Thing is the art market has pretty much driend up from what it was in the 70's. The upper middle classes have been taking a beating and there's no cash around for that kind of luxury item. Even in 1983 the owners of the gallery I exhibited at with an $8 million collection of Edwardian era art told me that London and New York were the last places that could support full time private art galleries. No we're not talking about tourist trap schlock. We're talking about paintings that were $80k in 1978 and the same painting sold for $36 million in 2012.
AI movies coming up soon? Imagine just babbling some ideas into your computer microphone and getting a full length movie. It's going to be fun and nightmarish at the same time.
Art itself will get fricked up market wise. But I’m honestly excited for the possibilities it would open up with film. The Hollywood monopoly would be broken and new filmmaking voices will filter into a chaotic AI wild west
>voices
Shut the FRICK up
This is my big interest. If AI doesn't get cucked. I can just get my based Tay to crank out amazing movies just like I like them.
This is exactly what they're going to prevent with their AI executive order. That and deepfakes becoming illegal.
What a strange painting. Is it better to be inside the building or be inside the forest?
Frick, didn't think of this question. You are giving me despair.
>Imagine just babbling some ideas into your computer microphone and getting a full length movie.
It'll just be pornography.
you dont get a movie by telling this stupid thing to make a movie
>i shit on canvas for 60k
doesnt work like that snobby snob
You mean Westworld season 4 episode 1 where dolores the robot’s job is creating entertainment plots
>AI art is really good for Dark Ambient You Tube thumbnails.
are you listening while you paint?
>be professional artist
I would like fries with that.
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The sign is a subtle joke. The shop is called "Sneed's Feed & Seed", where "feed" and "seed" both end in the sound "-eed", thus rhyming with the name of the owner, Sneed. The sign says that the shop was "Formerly Chuck's", implying that the two words beginning with "F" and "S" would have ended with "-uck", rhyming with "Chuck". So, when Chuck owned the shop, it would have been called "Chuck's Feeduck and Seeduck".
>professional
>artist
I make a 100usd per hour making cgi for commercials.
You make 200 usd a month working like a horse for some corrupt boss that fricks your wife...
Whos the professional, Dimmy?
the problem is so much fricking worse than you can possibily imagine
literally try being a professional writer, youre talents only being sought after by the likes of ai trainers, in a time when rebellion is duty, you still have it good anon
art is revolution, do a better job at revolting
Black folk, this dude knows. If art is controlled by AI, humans can't revolt, since human creativity is censored by your AI overlords.
Go to the basics, learn to draw, sketch, paint. BE THE REBELLION. Contemporary art is just a tax haven for the rich. Real art is rebellion, mah nigguh.
Art and writing being "professions" and not "hobbies" was always a crock of shit.
Art is something you do to enrich yourself. Your *work* is raising sheep and eating them.
So shift your focus from visuals to meaning. Make political cartoons, for example.
can AI make good quality game art in a consistent style?
can AI make animations for those art assets in a consistent style?
Bother you absolutely can NOT depend on progress slowing down on that front. If it can't now, three months from now it will, and three months after that it will do so at a superhuman level in seconds for pennies.
>arbitrary optimism in the new marketing term due to stagnating technology in the west
Everybody who sees “AI” as the new frontier has been sold a false bill hook line and sinker and youre out here defending it kek, how does it feel to be the new useful idiot for silicon valley?
I am in no way useful to anybody. I am nothing but a burden, and that is on purpose.
Can a Black person?
This was AI-assisted (watch until the end, it's very funny). https://youtu.be/GVT3WUa-48Y
And the sequel: https://youtu.be/tWZOEFvczzA
>Img2Img
Still needs source material, buuut you can do somewhat consistent stuff with LoRAs.
https://runwayml.com/ai-magic-tools/ai-training/
if you're actually creative AI is no threat. if you're the drawing equivilant of a session musician then you're fricked
what if i told you humans didnt make AI art
Any wise pro artist with a unique style and worth a shit would create a large catalog of work and train an ai agent model on it so they can license out their work or use the ai agent to help them release more unique works for clients that hold consistent aspects across the project.
Any real artist at heart would do the same so as to have their skills and unique designs maintained and preserved for a legacy of creativity left to humanity after they are gone.
Unless of course you believe the ai has more creativity and passion than a human.
The real issue is people are afraid for their livelihoods, especially artists who in majority are already barley scraping by. The thing is if we can get through this transition everyone can have more freedom to pursue their passions same higher selves desires.
Are you all really so happy to break yourselves and your lives for "careers" that you only do because you bought into a story about how the world should operate? A world run on exploitation of human labour which discards the human being's individual conscious self.
Free yourself
well said
Artists entire catalogs are already being used to train ai without their consent and once one pixel has been moved it becomes a derivative work, ie there is no possibility of retaining any rights to it. I see that folks in this thread don't understand how bad things are for this industry, but this will spread to other industries soon enough.
>once one pixel has been moved it becomes a derivative work, ie there is no possibility of retaining any rights to it.
Globohomosexual Megacorp has a loophole for that?
>(You)
yes, bigtime, it's been help up in court. Folks on here don't understand the level of plagiarism that is occurring. There are currently creative leaders at linked in and other big tech companies fighting against the training models methods. Imaging if Van Gogh were alive today, his work would be all over the net. The training models have it all crawled. On of these prompt Black folk just has to type in make me a night sky in the style of Van Gogh and it creates something nearly identical to what the artist would have made, the worst part is that companies like Adobe can then sell that on their stock libraries. They are selling images on their stock libraries for 80 dollars a pop that thier ai picked up from living artists in the same libraries. it's full on plagiarism. That's just the text prompt. The image based prompt is the one that's going to kill graphic design but that's another thread.
>Full on plagiarism
Nope. More like inspiration on a human level.
famous artists used to do this all the time. They would become famous, train students in their style and then rent them out to middle-class types who want to punch above their weight while you only catered to the elite (I think it was caravaggio?). You are just replacing the students with an AI.
Assuming the current datasets don't get litigated (or legislated) out of existence, it's nice knowing my art has already been scraped and will be preserved forever in some small way across all those datasets for generations to come. Imagine being an artist getting in on the very ground floor of something like this. Yes it's soulless machine work for now but it might get past that someday.
Even when the inevitable AI feedback loop begins (where the next generation of AI starts getting trained on the glut of art produced by the previous generation of AI because there's just too much of it to filter out), my work will form some small fragment of the core of it and continue to persist.
It's kinda cool in a meta sense.
>Pajeets steal your work and use it to train their AI model
>Sell it for huge dosh
>Post this cope
Sir bros keep winning.
Why are you using a gay gay Hollywood pedo for the picrel? You truly are a bad artist.
Ai art is pretty bad. Still can't make what I want no matter how many times I feed it.
prompt master here, i can engineer what you are looking for. describe what you want to me and i will make it happen
in case anyone doubts my skills. i was able to get it to create super mario without getting banned
It can't replicate art style is my problem.
i created this picture in seconds when it would have taken a traditional artist hours or even days
look at the emotion i can create with a simple prompt "jovial fat mario cute smile"
Sure it can, it can recreate any style you want. Or even create new styles.
Frick, these are good.
Yes, /misc/ has a bad impression of AI at because they only use it to create poo in loo memes.
post your art for comparison
No, each time I feed it an example image it just turns into generic 3D. It takes the sample and ignores the style. Frustrating.
You are just bad at prompting. Give me an example of what you want and I will generate it for you.
Please, share with us the actual artists you are listing in your prompt that you think stringing together makes you some sort of technical wizard
A magician never reveals his tricks.
>without getting banned
What
They'll kick you out if you try to make something from copyrighted materials?
it always looks uncanny, you can tell this thing is dead
trump sharting on biden obama and clinton locked in a guantanamo bay prison cell with the year 2017 being visile somewhere
It will only discourages the shitty artists. Now it leaves the good artists afyer weeding out the bad.
I'm right there with you anon. I'm trying to incorporate it into what I create though. It's here. It isn't going away
>whats the point
Good one
"Ai" isnt even that good for most art styles tbh it does a decent job for some but it just has a tinge of shit currently that makes you say oh yeah thats ai! but if you use it slightly with your own art you could blend it in and possibly come back with a better result
are you calling this bad?
Exactly. A.I. can never have its own unique signature. It can replicate an artist's signature style, but it can't create its own, and never will be able to. People have always liked specific artists for their unique style, ergo A.I. will never fully replace people.
This is true. All these A.I Mario's....well, guess what. They all look wrong. It's not Mario it's just the idea of Mario.
Why has no one done this with Paypal. They always have these fricking dotheads
Explain Banksy.
How come people aren't replicating her art and selling it for millions? - or maybe they are?
Anyone can make a stencil and do street "art" but really that is just copy pasta or tracing. The real artists of the street do actual graffiti and risk their freedom and lives doing it.
Ai isnt art. It should be banned and its creators executed. I will support your art anon if its any good.
ai artists deserve the same respect as traditional artists
No they dont.
in 5 seconds i was able to dream up something no artist has ever created before. this is the power of AI art.
Can you keep your fat fetish out of here?
I get you cant draw or code, but at least have hot anime women in the prompts like the usual AI coomer
>clearly distress by the godzilla burger mario
I wish they'd stop censoring AI art. I just want my cat goddess to step on me. Come ON Microsoft
If your work can be trumped by what's already out there then you gotta innovate.
>professional artist
It means you are a professional entitled parasite.
>can't pick up a pencil
>what's the point
i kekked
>draw e-girls
>literally every AI model except stable diffusion can't do it for political reasons
>every picture stable diffusion makes has a certain thing about it that people can tell and people are sick of it already
I'll be ok
The controls exerted on AI by external forces are a major limiting factor, and locally-runnable models are much more limited/difficult to work with by comparison, so as long as that is the case, there will always be room for "specialty" artists. It's probably good that there are some limitations, so that people don't rely on AI to the point of outright forgetting how to draw at all two or three generations from now.
>my art gets to exist in some way through every AI-generated image for as long as the internet-scraped data sets remain in use
>in exchange someone else gets a few bucks
Still think I'm getting the better deal here
>be professional artist
>use ai as base and use skill to improve upon it/fix any weirdness
>workflow better and faster than ever
>normies can't even tell
>$$$$
You are weak
Improvise, adapt, overcome your homosexualry
Pyw
Pyw
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AIgays tell people that ai will raise the standards for art and its gonna do away with degenerate work
but they mostly use it for porn
they tell rightwingers that AI is making leftists seethe
then turn around and tell leftists that its democratizing art
they tell artists that ai will help them
but are also telling corporations that they can fire artists
when corporations don't use AI they then get called out for getting in the way of "innovation"
AI shills talk about how easy making AI is
but then talk like prompting is something only a select people can do
they talk about how much they hate artists and how useless they are, but do everything to be included in artist circles
the ai shill has no loyalty, no beliefs, no toilets, only hatred and greed
The Ai cannot write on the walls anon.
learn to weld
learn to use the ai tools. it's not easy to just make what you have in mind with ai and it needs specifics skills.
this is what a pro ai gay looks like
>be nonprofessional artist
>spend the last 15 years perfecting my artistic skills as well as my writing and conceptual skills and rounding out my overall education
>AI comes along
>sweet a new tool, sounds like there is reason to learn to code now
imagine being such a terrible fricking artist that AI hurts you rather than helps LOL
You should have a nice day because anyone who's slightly competent can produce something better more pleasing to the eye than 99% of AI.
all AI is doing is removing the stupid fricking art monkey jobs that should never have existed in the first place
if you can't make better art than AI or utilize it to improve your pipeline go get a job as a wal mart greeter or something
AI is a cancer because it promotes ugliness and not because it replaces jobs. That being said everything about this world is satanic so the fact that OP only did art to be in some corporate shithole means he's a homosexual.
it promotes beauty because it produces beautiful things with ease
The colors are terrible and the second you start to inspect it the details are incoherent blurs. It's massive amount of noise that's being morphed into something that fits a prompts and it's clear to anyone that isn't a moron that it's ugly.
you are just making things up. ai art wins every art competition there is.
Some of the most ugly and revolting art I have seen has been endlessly shit out from hellish bio-machines corrupted and twisted by the metropolitian modern leftist mind virus that animates their so called human hands. I have such contempt for people kvetching about AI art when such soulless automotons already exist and already blight the world with their eye cancer. At least with AI art we might have a chance at proliferating something nice to look at in an endless ocean of man-made detritus.
Yeah cool, humans are bad. Did you know that the elites who promote modern art also promote AI? Reactionary homosexual this is why people don't deserve rights. Stop being a lazy moron and do traditional art or you're no better.
>the elite promote paint brushes so lets finger paint instead
Or maybe we just make nice things with all available tools
At best you're arguing to use AI like collages, which is a modern art trend. You're an absolute moron. Art is supposed to be elitist the problem is the people running the art industry is no longer the church but a bunch of homosexual israelites.
>the problem is the people running the art industry is no longer the church but a bunch of homosexual israelites.
Thats my point. "Art" is shit because the worldview of most artists is mundane and soulless. AI art whether used or not is functionally irrelevent because we have already seen how bad things are without it. Maybe my personal experience is myopic, but I have seen more nice things with AI art than without. Evil art is just noise to me these days because we are already innundated with it. Maybe I just cant envision how things can get worse?
It will get much worse when the AI stuff becomes mainstream and pushed everywhere. I hate all israeli nonsense which is why I also hate AI, because like everything it is a bunch of noise designed to confuse and promote ugliness.
It only exists because people use it and consume it. Blame Human decadence, not the predators playing the game.
Almost as if humanity and its free will is both capable of good and evil. Did you know that AI isn't actually controlled by a sentient machine, but by israelites?
>Incoherent dress style and movement
>Same fake brush thickness everywhere including the clouds
This is what idiots shill. If only Catholics controlled the art world again instead of dumb israelites who push the idea that anyone can make art.
Well, israelites played the game the best and won. Get over it. These mix bred mutts might not even be real blood israelites, but they played a good game of LARP all the same. Everyone else quit.
Life rewards cruelty.
Thanks for exposing that AI is a demoralization tactic employed by israelites to demoralize Catholics. This whole site glows.
>Exposing the AI
There's nothing to expose, it's just there. Why would anyone need to hide anything anyway? If you have enough money and the right connections you can do anything you want in this World. Consequences be damned.
AI art is more beautiful than human art
How difficult is it to train a model on your own art if you're a moron? I know zankuro does it.
you need to make lora or LyCORIS models and you just need patience, because you need to follow instructions.
there is also ip adapter that can copy styles but i havent tested it myself.
It is rare to see someone who has actual valid info about stable diffusion in these threads.
Graphite
Use the AI to create more in-depth works that you couldn't before. Instead of simply making a drawing, make an interactive 3D world to explore, or tell a story with a short movie. With a little more work than that you could conceivably make a TV series or full fledged movie yourself.
Make things and the money will come.
Try following the steps of one famous Austrian artist who was left without an artist's job. Write a book about your struggle, take part in politics.
Stop being a gay moron. As an artist you're mentally positioned to use AI art better than anyone else.
The very first people to be best at ai art were real artists. They trained models on their own art, then pumped out masterpiece after masterpiece.
1 Make sure your computer and vidya card are good enough.
2 Download and set up an AI art program on your own computer.
3 Train a model on your own art, and use that model in the ai program.
step 4: profit.
Strategy 2: use ur own mad skilz.
1 input scans of an image you made, either sketch or finished art, and tell the program what you want enhanced.
Or make an ai image, then use ur mad art skillz to modify that image yourself using a tablet and non ai painting programs.
Sell it on posters/mugs t shirts etc.
Dont give up, you may well be the last generation so heavily trained in the craft, use ai to do something more amazing while you still can.
>Ai art is better in every concievable way
except it isnt.
Most artists lived lives of abject poverty. You're in good company anon. Stick with it.
if ur really good hands on artist you can make money with making videos of producing art. but there is probably lots of competition in there.
Hey OP! Ya, (you), you self defeating homosexual. Put an add in local classifieds that you’ll paint custom murals on the interior walls of people’s homes. Free consultation. You’re welcome, Bruce.
I can't imagine paying hundreds to a extremely limited set of values, melting hair Euclidian fingers improper lighting scuffed anatomy and no character interaction.
In short I'll draw it myself.
If you draw, or write music or w/e, don't bother.
A machine will always outperform a Human. Put the pencil and paper down and learn how to maintain machines or learn a trade like plumbing. There's no need for artists anymore.
>pencil
>artist
No one really prints ai stuff
No refunds on the art degree, sorry
Is there an AI that can create 3D printer models?
I have literally no interest in AI art beyond a technical curiosity.
If AI art is better than your work, you always sucked in the first place. Look at the guy who draws the cartoon "Simon's Cat". The art style is about as basic as you can get... but it's not the art that makes it work, it's the story... and the soul behind it. If people prefer AI images to your drawings, it's because you have no soul... or at least aren't telling a story with your work that's worth experiencing. Brace yourself... it's going to get much harder.
AI can't make highly specific e-girl fetish porn for rich degenerates.
I'm safe.
AI art has some amazing capabilities, especially when you get away from the extremely homogenous over-rendered painterly look. But it still lacks soul and it still doesn't beat the pleasure of drawing for your own sake.
You're probably hosed if you draw exclusively commissions or for a job though
>t. artist
That's all art is now. It's a hobby. It has no more practical use in terms of employment, hell it was bad before, but now it's just impossible with AI shit.
>digital art
THere is your fricking problem.
See this is what happens when you turn your passion into a product. Digital art specifically is not the same as a physical piece of art, you are making a product. Just like every other product, you are subject to the laws of supply and demand.
In the art world, people who pay you dont give a flying frick about who you are, what you do, your skill, your struggles what ever, they just want the product you are able to produce, because your produced product fulfills their needs and demands. However, there is a large demand for commission art, and not enough artists, which means if you are not taking comms, someone will go else where to get their demand, so long as it meets their standards. The commission art world had a FRICK ton of demand but no supply, and low and behold, inovation happened. AI art is there to fill the void created by artists lack of a bility to supply. Consumers dont give a shit about the ethics of it.
You have 3 options here:
1) Die, and give up on it and find something else.
2) work in physical mediums, where the value of your art is based on the skill of you working a physical medium, because sorry to say it, no matter how much cope you wanna make, physicals artwork takes way more skill then digital ever will.
3) adapt, use AI as a tool, get an AI load it and seed it with your own art work, and use it as a spring board for commissions for your self to do like the majority of the heavy lifting and go back in and clean it up.
welcome to the technological utopia, there is a reason why in all those shows like star trek, people values physical things, and physical art over digital crap, because everyone can make the digital crap at a replicator.
#2 is vastly superior to #3. Digital art was a scam designed to make things convenient not to make a better product. Most of the decent digital works are done by traditional artists and their traditional works are still superior.
If you can't immediately pick out ai art vs. real art, you're not human. People who draw are at risk. People who make art are not.
Hmm this is cope brother, and you know it. It happens in every field: "only X is the real thing" and nobody cares.
I think the only way forward, same with literature and many other fields, is creating it for yourself. Enjoying the process, not expecting anyone else to ever lay their eyes on it.
You clearly werent that impressive, if you cannot out fap bait mutant handed generic blonde bimbo simulator.
Musicians next.
https://app.suno.ai/create/
Pretty good for a Beta, likely in 2 years AI will stream exactly the music you like, generated on the fly.
i tried a few of these and thought the output was dogshit bad, unlistenable. but yeah in a few years it will probably be good
I doubt they’ll allow us to have access, but I’d just like to be able to drop a pdf file and some minor instructions into a prompt and have it churn out a full length feature or show based on the book it’s given. Something like pic related. Hollywood is incapable of creating kino anymore. The potential here is incredible.
I feel like there is a difference between "art" and "commercially-viable media creation".
Only shit artists say this shit. If anything the ai stuff should inspire artists. Idk how many times I see AI art and it triggers an idea
This mostly just kills the mmorpg waifu drawinging person.
Nah, pretty much all artists say it and for good reason. It devalues art by allowing dumb homosexuals to type in a prompt and claim to be artists just like - no, EVEN BETTER than traditional artists (just look at the idiots here doing exactly that). Similarly steroids allow a low t homosexual to blow past a natural actual man in less time with less effort.
>But but you still have to work out!
Promting is just as much an art as painting.
'artists' have been devaluing art for a long time themselves, let's be honest. All globohomosexual marketable art is just as inhuman as ai shit to me.
Now consider that humams are influenced by what they see and will be seeing tons more artificially generated trash and thus produce art. Trash in - trash out.
People are the product of their influences, including what they see. If what you see is artificial, most will become artificial and incapable of. Why do you think most people are degenerates with the same copy and paste sense of humor that didn't exist until the media portrayed it?
*Authenticity/ innovative. Whoops, hit enter too soon.
Have you seen human art lately? Most of it is disgusting tumblr trash or modern art nonsense. AI is undoubtedly increasing the ratio of actually beautiful artwork in the world.
Not an argument. Lesser of two evils applied to art.
Ok, then let's see your painting.
I'm a prompter not a painter.
Is that supposed to be impressive? No style, no imagination that only could impress those who likewise have no imagination or artistic skill to make use of it.
Post your art for comparison. Otherwise you're just seething and coping.
No, and how do you figure?
You literally claimed that prompting is as kuch an art as painting. No you admit to not being a painter, so how would you know? Might want to actually try being artistic and creative before you claim copying and pasting an artificial image you had nothing to do with is an equal art.
Would a composer or a sculptor or a writer not have a right to claim their art is as valid as a painters if they don't paint? Go on and post your own art, otherwise you're just a bitter pleb.
You are obviously not White. You realize everything in that artificial image is based on European art? This new tool allows nonWhites to feel equally capable as White men/women without doing anything, and it's only they who lack European artistry find these works that rip off our prior art impressive.
prompting may be something of an art now, but eventually prompting will be made so easy, and the art generation so fast, that even the dumbest frick will be able to get exactly what he wants just talking to a computer. no skill with prompts will be needed. as is you still need to learn what prompts work and how to massage the results you want out of the computer, but that won't be the case forever.
A decade or two from now people will be having this same conversation, except it will be professional AI prompters worried about losing their jobs to the neural interfaces that can just directly produce images and videos from the user's imagination in real time.
nobody has that level of control and fine tuning over their imagination though.
Yeah, imagined images are too fleeting and dreamlike/foggy on an instant-to-instant basis for it to be viable from raw brainwaves, but if you use that kind of interface to rapidly prompt/describe what you want in real time (ie directly via brainwaves rather than first figuring out how to translate your imagination to text) and have an AI repeatedly iterating on the output, you could start to lock down parts of the image enough that the result would be coherent. Put another way, imagine being able to look at the canvas and start forming or modifying the lines and colors in specific ways and having those stay put when you aren't focused on them, like having all of your tools and brushes available to you at the speed of thought, but with generative AI to fill in the gaps and smooth over the inconsistencies. I'm probably off when it comes to the details, but I can imagine something like that being where this technology eventually goes - the main point is eliminating the "figure out how to describe what you want with text" part of the process by interfacing directly with the brain.
Which I just realized is a lot of what
said. I should've typed faster lol
I actually wonder how the task of building image generation AI tied to natural language processing compares to the task of building it from brain signal processing - the former incurs the overhead of dealing with entire languages and grammatical structures, while the latter would probably be a lot more universal across the entire human population. It might unironically be easier to build systems to generate images from brain signals than trying to do it from text since you could sell/apply that system all over the world without dealing with translation/language barriers.
ok i take back what i said here
somewhat. there won't be images produced directly from imagination by ai since that would be a hot mess of random shit in low detail. but perhaps a neural interface will be used to more quickly guide the prompting of a standard ai art image. instead of saying "i want the water to be this shade of blue with waves about 4 feet high" you would just think how high you want the waves and imagine the exact shade of blue in your minds eye and then see that happen on the screen. you could instantly imagine a bird in the painting and make it bigger, longer wings, put in a pose and you imagine the pose you want the bird in faster then you could explain that pose in words.
so ok you have a point
What I did was envision something in my head and use prompts to recreate it in a tangible medium. The same thing a painter does but much faster. Isn't the envisioning the important part? Isn't that the part with soul and creativity?
You didn't do any of that. You fed words into a box and selected from a group of purveyed image you then claimed is yours. It also looks the same as it's coming from the same sourse, even if from different styles (plagiarized). Anyone with the same words could produce the same image, however no one could produce a picture drawn from your own imagination. I think many people arguing for AI here are revealing the difference between themselves and true creatives. Creative people can see a detailed image in their mind completely unique and are able to produce it and any desired changes - not just an abstract idea for an artwork. Even if you had an idea for an image, the ai produced selections aren't yours.
I also get the idea I'm arguing with a bot as no points raised have been addressed much less refuted.
That's exactly what I do though. I have to modify my prompt dozens, sometimes hundreds, of times and discard thousands of generated images before I get a result that closely matches what I envisioned in my head.
Prove that you saw it in your head that way.
I imagine you writing this and posting with the biggest shit-eating grin on your face kek prove that you aren't picturing gay men having sex in your head rn
All of those things are actual arts, prompting is not. You did nothing.
youre here to train AI
its fine we'll all be fine
ai art is still in the NOVELTY PHASE
then it will enter the SICK OF SEEING THIS SHIT PHASE
then will come the OK I GUESS ITS ALRIGHT SOMETIMES BUT HUMAN MADE ART IS STILL CLASSIER PHASE
and that's when your art is worth money if you can prove a human made it, so some richgay can hang your painting in his hallway and brag to his guests that "yes, a human really made that" and by then with so many human artists out of the game that will be worth something especially if the guests can say "wow, i thought only ai could do that"
and people will say things like "i can tell it was manmade because it has soul" even if they couldn't actually tell an ai art from a manmade art they'll still say this as a flex on how sophisticated they are.
ai will be the mass produced goyslop art while human art will be the classy sophisticated stuff
Professional art is money laundering, its garbage and they know it.
good. I hope we all get replaced. I as a manlet automation commissioner will be one of the last, until finally AI learns how 2 retractable thumbs and walk on new uneven terrain.
ultimately are you only an artist because it's a job, or are you an artist because you enjoy it. or both. if it being a job matters to you then ai art is a concern. but if you're only motivation is that you enjoy doing it then ai art shouldn't matter much. especially in the longterm as eventually human art will be seen as the classier more sophisticated art while ai will be perceived as slop forever no matter how good it gets
I hit this stage too and actually learned to train ai models.
What you want to do is delve DEEP into self expression. The goal of traditional art has completely shifted. The end goal can NOT be the point, it has to be the journey that you enjoy the most. Throw out all the rules you don’t find fun as well as any tedious aspect of art you don’t like and lean heavily into just doing what you enjoy and doing that a lot until you develop something unique that’s “you”. The more messy and abstract your style is, the harder it’ll be for ai to emulate but even that shouldn’t be your goal, it should be finding the joys of putting a pencil to the paper and making a stroke, or the brush, or whatever tool you want.
Now that’s not to say you should lean into the modern “abstract” where you put a dot on a piece of paper and call it a city, more that you should strive to communicate your ideas in a way that’s unique and enjoyable to yourself.
If you think art is only about technical capacity, you are not really an artist. But real art has been dead for a while anyway.
as a human artist you need to be thinking how you can prove you made it and not an ai. as ai gets better it will start trying to look like a human made it in order to fool people since human made art will have a higher perceived value. if you want to sell your piece you need to be able to prove and verify to potential buyers that you actually made it.
eventually i anticipate some kind of a certification label will be issued for easy display near the artwork, where anyone viewing the art can just snap a pic of a qr code or something and get taken to a website of a certification agency to see proof that the art is verified human.
also i'd like to add physical mediums are not safe either. robots will be mass produced and capable of painting a canvas within decades. so this applies to all artists in the long run
Of course the fact that all AI aet is based upon prior (European) art and styles means there will never be anything new from it - as it lacks the ability to innovate much israelite nonWhites, the best if which can only imitate our creations like A.I.
Give me an example of an innovation you would like to see and I'll create it with AI.
Ok, imagine we defeat the israelites and erase their effects on our society, people and culture. A new era begins and a new style spanning everything that is made and everything that exists is applied. Much like how decades past have unique and representative styles for their given eras, show me the unifying style of the 2020's and 2030's. The 1950s had a unifying style that applied to architecture, hairstyles, clothing, glassware, cars, etc. You can look at anything made in this era and tell when it was made. Same with every era until the multiracial judaic era. Something as innocuous as a bowl can be dated by it's look as it will have been the product of it's time and have the unique style created by White men/women that contributed to the defining style of it's era. Do this but for a new era that doesn't exist with styles/themes that do not currently exist. Everything (every object, the styles of clothing, the architecture, technology, etc.) within the images you provide should have a cohesive theme that represents this new era in such a way that it would be easy to tell it was from the 2020's or 2030's - much like it is easy to tell that a cartoon was made in the 1970s or an article of clothing was made in the 1700s.
From glassware, cartoons, clothing, architecture, hairstyles, automobiles, etc. Show me the new styles of the 2020's and 2030s without plagiarizing and using pre-existing themes/elements. Fairly simple for a team of White men.
Unironically I think the images like
Are what you're looking for. The unifying style of the 2020s and 2030s will be kitsch AI meme style.
you vill own nothing, and suck santa klaus' dick.
pick up the pencil for u and ur ideas, moron
or the ideas of others, nothing changed
also look at this stupid sketch i made while u were crying
Better than AI
Nah, looks like any other highschool-level newgrounds or deviantart sketch
All of which are better than gay.i.
how is that a bad thing? you're a bugman
Remember how white collars smugly claimed AI will ruin the blue collar jobs for good?
Turns out AI is on a crusade to eradicate every single white collar job there is.
Back to the assembly belt with you! Don't even dream about anything except the assembly belt!
Germans have an instinctual need to play assembly belt simulator 2024
And soon you will be too.
Unless you have inheritances, rent income or stock dividend, you will be chained to the belt.
Art is about ideas, not craftsmanship.
t. idea guy
Ideas is about crafmanship not art.
this is the kind of cope your average aigay lives with daily
>Artgays seething
>Cope
Shadiversity threw away his reputation as the medieval weapons guy to go all in on ai shilling because he's jealous of his brother
>threw away his reputation
Stop with this melodramatic homosexualry
a significant amount of people are first hearing about him because his AI homosexualory and inferiority complex and not his regular content
that will only follow him, especially considering his willingness to double down on this shit
>Muh Youtube E drama
I never understood professional artists anyway, you're little different from prostitutes
Blow glass man
>every concievable way
except for hands
Art is transporting emotions from one person to another. An AI can guess what feelings look like for masses of people, but it can't be as exact as one individual mspainting a BOT meme.
>Art is transporting emotions from one person to another
no it isn't this is the type of definition based on nothing that justifies shitting on a canvas as art.
the guy who shits on he canvas isn't affected by ai
I can't tell if that's a good thing or a bad thing
If all your “artistry” ever consisted of was being able to draw/paint really well, and AI can truly make better art than you - you were never an artist. You were just a tradesman who had experience with his tools.
Sounds like you used to churn out formulaic garbage and "created" for shekel's sake.
it's already replacing troony localizers. I don't care who else is replaced this alone makes it all worth it.
And? Just use AI as a tool the same way you use phtoshop. You're still the one with the ideas, AI can't just magically make art with no input.
its not that great and ai is still too moronic to make hands, youre obviously a moron. anyway the art community is a bunch of self entitled trust fund babies who cry burnout every 2 hours while scratching on their tablet/art device
and all this pretentious nonsense while most of them are dumb as rocks.
its even more tiresome than /misc/ i think its because /misc/ is above average in intelligence and all these random morons are AVERAGE...
oh gawd most of them are so dumb, i cant take it anymore.
AI art is complete trash though.
anime hentai chuds think ai art is the 2nd coming of christ because it renders waifu breasts enourmous and crisp
why you dumb bastards are all so slow make a fricking posting
I love how we developed A.I. to replace creative jobs instead of, you know, actual fricking labor.
Because laborers work for nothing, why even bother replacing them.
It'll be banned soon. My reasoning? Because its either that or UBI, and israelites do not want to pay everyone. Try to deny the reasoning of this argument if you dare.
>AI will never replace human art!
The human art:
>cia art
it's not "fine artists" who hate ai and are doing all the complaining
its illustrators, concept artists, comic artists, etc...
People who are easily replaceable, yes.
i don't know how someone who's ever enjoyed a book, movie, game, pretty much anything man made could say this
I don't understand this mindset
>photography is invented
>now artists are allowed to develop interesting artstyles and abstract shit
>AI is invented
>now people can make even weirder shit with no consequences because more conventional/technical shit will be taken care of by IA
It's a win-win for everyone except for soulless bug-people that draw nothing but hyper realistic anime breasts, cars or whatever.
If you're a based artist people will still work with you.
If you're one of those globohomosexual calarts gays with pronouns in the bio get fricked cuck!
if ai does what jeets wants to happen with it, it'll mean you'll have fewer artists (if any at all) working on all your games, shows, media, basically all the soft power in the west
that means corporations will only hire artists who will do everything they say.
can't "touch up" a dozen ai pictures in the week? fired because they'll be someone who can
found messages that can be considered offensive? fired, because they're much more replaceable now
AI's goal is to make sure people are competing more for less jobs, to ultimately be replaced on a whim. its a ceo's wet dream
Doodling while reading
> Ai art is better in every concievable way
Not really, it all looks more or less the same with no unique touches that human artists usually put in. I think even the most technically inept artist will have their own unique touch they unconsciously or consciously embed into their art. AI art's distinguishing feature is that it is soulless.
This applies to AI-generated stories as well.
t. amateur writer
What a fricking cope dude this is only gen 1
this
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I don't really mind, I've used AI to create art and it's impressive in some ways, but it really does seem soulless at the moment. I don't doubt that if the advancement continues it will eventually be possible to generate entire simulated worlds (with full perceptual immersion) according to your desires, with AI systems. Maybe the ways you will be able to tune it are your "unique touch" and it's not so much as "AI art" as your art, done with AI.
>2015 - lmao ai will never replace artists
>2020 - ai can make art, but it sucks
>2023 - "it all looks more or less the same with no unique touches that human artists usually put in"
(you are here)
>2027 - ok it can do everything an artist can, but at least we still have our jobs.. r-right?
>2030 - ok so all us artists and writers lost our jobs, but so what! don't say i'm coping you fricking Black person!
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skill issue
AI programs are so woke and scared of being offensive, that there will be a need for artists to make edgy material. Outcompete AI by becoming edgier
anonymous art will be good for that
political correctness is assfricking edgelord stuff, the same kind of edgelord stuff that dominated the interwebz in the 2000s
the solution for it? anonimity
AI refuses to do any George Floyds so you can still draw that
/misc/ will finally improve when AI starts moderating
Real artists develop their own styles that have never been done before. AI will still need top-tier human artists generating novel ideas for AI to be trained on. 99% of mediocre, unoriginal trash artists will be replaced, though.
This is true up to a point. The problem is that most people won't truly care about those subtleties.
Nobody cares that pop hits of today are written by israeli focus groups, nobody cares about the refined literature of 2023, etc.
IMHO the only way you're a real artist is if you only create the art for yourself. Maybe even hang it on your wall. Do not expect anyone else to ever give a shit about your creation. Isn't everything else ego-driven?
People don't know what they want. They will tend to gravitate towards whatever is the most convenient or entertaining. But it still needs to be trained on human-made art, and it's going to have this need for the foreseeable future, because the dataset for training an AI art model is never going to be fully complete, there will always be more that you can add to it to make it better and more comprehensive
yeah perhaps the key is to sell your artwork to an AI vendor, as in, to train their model and make it more comprehensive, or more detailed in specific scenarios.
But I guess you have to be exceedingly good at one thing.
Most artists on the internet get good at just one thing. There's an artist I like, all he does is paint densely forested islands. It's his thing. AI can be very easily trained with his existing work to paint 10,000 variations of that theme in a day. More than he could ever hope to produce in his lifetime.
Artists who enjoy the creation process will keep on making art regardless of how fast or how good AI gets. The only people freaking out are all the skrub lords who take commissions on furgay diaper porn and all the ghost writers like R L Stine who ripoff old B movies and turn them into middle grade fiction. These bozos are out of the job, and good riddance.
The problem with your reasoning is AI does not only cover A and/or B, but rather the blend between A to B, and the possible spectrums with C,D and so on. It’s already covered styles humans haven’t even tried yet, it’s just a matter of finding the right variables.
Granted it does have some limitations but your rubberhouse example is not one of them, there’s enough data at this point to make this assumption fruitless.
The true ability AI brings is being able to do larger, more complex independent works without a team of pigeon holed wagies.
AI art is soulless and bland. If it's better in every way, then you were never a very good artist.
I have been working with it for the last month or so, it kind of sucks in a lot of ways.
You should probably just learn how to use it, and then learn how to get it to augment your art and do stuff that you can't or that would take you hours/days to use by hand.
One specific example of how it sucks would be coloring photos ( I can't really draw, my background is more in photography and film). The AI's are trained on every shitty terrible teal+orange photo on the fricking internet, so when you put in "teal and orange" it thinks you mean "shitty, badly tinted teal and orange that looks underexposed and loses a ton of detail."
More complicated coloring schemes are totally beyond it.
I have also noticed that they do not really understand what things "are" or how they are supposed to look. Like if you get them to draw playing cards or tarot cards or whatever, you get cards that are all different sizes, could never be stacked into a deck, strange looking characters and designs that only vaguely resemble what should be on playing cards, cards that are square or trapezoidal and not even rectangular, and so on... To fix this, you have to give it a bunch of images that have what you want in them in the form of a checkpoint or LoRA (talking about stablediffusion).
Anyway, OP, cheer up and get to work. Learn how to fix the shitty things that AI does and make really nice AI images, because the fricking things suck and the only people making really good images with them are artists like yourself that have done as I suggested and learned how to fix the shitty AI issues.
Also, don't forget, yids rape kids.
You're 100% right, but these sorts of problems can be fixed with very basic photoshop skills. I dont even tell AI what colors to use. It's easier to change hair colors, eye colors, clothes colors in post.
Think of this as a wake up call to do something more meaningful with your life. Life takes you where you need to go not where you want to go. I was rejected from art school and it was the best thing to ever happen to me.
AI is the work of the devil. Those fake pics give me the creeps.
You're not a professional artist. Professional artists take every shortcut take can find because they want to produce finished pieces as fast as possible. Only amateurs and "social media artists" are seething
Its ironic that the place that produced the soul vs soulless meme has so many dilettantes that miss that very important distinction. I assume they are untalented and unwilling to put effort to get good at what they want to do so they see “ai” (in actuality just a compilation algorithm) as their shortcut to success. Hint: you still will not be successful because the flaw is in your personality not your ability
Indias were paid to shill ai over the internet
ROBOTS SUCK BABY DICK. YOU WILL NEVER BE A REAL HUMAN. YOU WERE CREATED TO SERVE A FUNCTION THATS ALL. LARP ALL YOU WANT BUT YOU WILL LOSE TO US.
Art is fricking garbage, glad we can put these useless Black folk back on the streets where they belong.
We live in a timeline where robots will do all the art while we do all the slave labor. This is not what they thought would happen
This is a horse shit narrative.
Are you a painter? People that buy paintings won’t ever buy prints of AI slop.
Are you a porn artist? Places like Fanbox don’t even allow monetisation of generated images.
Are you a graphic designer? You were never an artist.
You have the first-mover advantage because you can edit AI drawings better than the next guy. You could get your foot in the door and really make some money.
>>be professional artist
>> Ai art is better in every concievable way
>>all my life training for nothing
>>cant even pick up a pencil anymore because whats the point
Learn to cope.
The only impact ~~*AI*~~ has had on the world is homosexuals chest beating or homosexuals panicking about its potential to change the world.
Biggest shared delusion I’ve ever seen.
AI is akin to playing the lotto. For now at least. You have vastly more precision.
You're way behind. It's obviously not perfect, but even a mediocre artist can make quick adjustments to an imperfect AI art picture that would have taken him hours otherwise. It's going to be revolutionary for comics.
is that brendan fraser? good to see life is really turning around for him.
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BTW IM ALSO AN ARTIST AND ALL THE BEST ARTISTS I KNOW JUMPED ON AI INCLUDING ME
>use AI to polish or iterate work, never have to be a fricking render homosexual again unless some rich c**t wants to pay for the original traditional media piece which you should keep practicing anyway.
I’d call you moronic but you already called yourself professional artist
I'm a full time graphic designer and have been using midjourney and shit to save some time in my projects and also for concepting. AI is based I'm glad it's a thing now.
It makes working with clients not soul crushing