>Be me
>NSFW artist
>Had a steady patreon with nearly 1k subscribers
>AI hits
>Now down to 200
I hope you nodraws are happy. You aren't only stealing our work but you're stripping us of our livelihoods.
How am I supposed to pay my bills now?
get a job hippy
This WAS my job moron
>drawing porn for a living
kys
>tripgayging
you first tourist.
>accuses of tripgayging
>no tripcode
moron, that's just namegayging
>tripgayging
newbie
idiot newbie
idort moron
Ironic
>job was panhandling on the Internet
This shit right here.
>omg guize!
>muh heccin cat-erino is gonna die-o'rrhea if it doesn't get ass surgery!
>i need commissions nau!!!
>for lowly $19, you can halp save the life of something i made up because getting my hands doity iz a nuh-uh.
oh, and don't forget this goes on when they have an active backlog.
i wouldn't even mind this if they weren't so fricking flaky about it
Get a real job.
>if youre no wageslaving for sheckelstein its not a real job
>Weaver complains that machines are taking all his commissions as new tools take his job
though seriously you need to adapt. and try to fill an niche or do HQ stuff. embrace it instead of fighing it
I was hoping you would say that you're part of that recent content purge.
seethe degenerate bastard
Onlyfans
make NSFW games then
or genshit mods
If you fail to adapt to the new market structure that's on you. Plenty of people making bank on commissioned AI art.
this. i've bought AI art. ai_dragon on patren is making at least $1.2k a month doing general 1 girl AI art, assuming every member is the lowest tier
Economy's also rough rn so a lot of people are dropping to pay, y'know, rent.
My subscribers should be able to pay 5 bucks a month. If not then what the frick are they even doing
Allocating the money elsewhere.
Why are you so entitled?
homies can just download your stuff from kemono, you know
>If not then what the frick are they even doing
Trying to pay rent and groceries probably
If I was sympathetic before, this post alone disabuses me of that mistaken feeling. Youre a rat, die.
Probably trying to make a living selling "art" online
I love AI, it can make art with my very specific fetishes
Thank God the filters are always updating.
I don't upload it, I keep it to myself
What part of that has anything to do with any part of what I said?
I don't know, the same could be said about your post
The filters on the image generators.
>image generators
>being a cloudcuck instead of a localchad
>There are people on bot that think bing is the only way to make AI art.
Grim isn't it?
They'll eventually pre-bake the filters into the local models, too.
>rolls back to the version without filters
Wow, that was hard.
That's how every model after 1.5 started, but people fixed them because opensource and now we have good models
And that's a good thing because?
Anything that inconveniences a coomer is a net positive on the world.
dig the fricking hole
get a real job hippy
How is providing art not a real job? I contribute to society
Meanwhile you prompt all day
They are just seething out of jealousy.
If you don't have a "real job", then you've succeeded.
drawing art is a real job but it's risky and offers very little job security even before AI
>How is providing art not a real job? I contribute to society
If your art is so shit it can be mostly replaced with "AI" then you're not contributing anything
For all the sympathy I lack, I don't think it's bait.
literally not an excuse
just look at s**** t*** s***
relentlessly memed about for its terrible art, and still sitting at 56k / month
>just look at s**** t*** s***
?
Stonetoss, the among us comic strip guy.
There's no point in him existing after amogus, its all shit, his art and the jokes
she's actually a woman
God I wish
Blame poorgays and/or arrogant clients with less money.
Learn how to use the AI too? Get with the times old man. Don't neglect the newest and biggest artist tool.
This never happened and you're a fricking liar
NSFW artists used to talk so much shit about "bro just draw furry porn, i literally draw dogs fricking each other all day and earn stupid money from homosexuals lol im so smart why isn't everyone doing this"
Look at you now, dirty motherfricker
open an onlyfans homosexual
You must be pretty mediocre, Op. Most artists who draw at a pro level have not be affected by AI. You’re probably at the right subscriber count for your skill level.
i am glad you are suffering
Sorry anon but it is what it is. I personally don't like it but it's here to stay I guess.
welcome to capitalism gay isn't it great
we have funko pops and amerimutts can get fat
>How am I supposed to pay my bills now?
Get a real fricking job, homosexual.
Why don't you make AI art and increase the rate of your production.
You're being replaced.
is this even real newspaper illustrations??
>canned music
answer me, homosexual moron
Did you draw that ugly anime alien face?
Get over it. That "skill" of yours is not needed.
Think about learning to do something useful.
Pinup art is over. Now you have to learn to write too so you can draw cohesive stories with your characters.
TRUE
>GPT and TavernAI barge in.
Good thing I'm going with unreal next year, I will be safe from ai.
For the gays saying we need to get a real job, are you guys sure this is the best way to use your bathroom break? Your amazon supervisor will deduct some good boy points from you.
please stream gura..
She’s back to drinking. I knew it wouldn’t be long before she lost her battle with alcoholism. She’s gotten quite fat IRL. You can hear it in her voice
She got pretty much replaced by AI so she's useless now
Holy fricking shit I am so glad I draw because I actually like doing it and not because my livelihood depends on it.
I have no pity for people that turn their hobbies into their main source of income. It cheapens both their craft and communities they are a part of.
post art
It: no talent losers coping
Prompting will never get you laid via admiration. If you get paid for AI, you’re basically an Indian street merchant or like a Saudi prince who thinks he can buy talent. Humans who make shit with their own hard work snd cultivated skills will always be cooler, more respected, and just better than you. Women will always want men who knew how to be alone and sacrifice enough time to hone skills. If you lure a wife with money, she will frick a talented guy behind your back. In the annals of history fir all time, nodraws and their ilk are never and will never be cool. Suck it, nerds.
i fricking kneel big bro. i am in absolute awe just thinking of the amount of coochie your furry inflation commissions must earn you
Stop talking about furshit. No one assumes furshit is the epitome of modern digital art. But tbh, even furgays get hella furb***h pussy.
You know people have other shit they do, right? Drawing isn't the only skill that exists. I don't know why you gayots take this shit so God damn seriously.
What I’m saying applies to the arts in general, including writing, etc.
no it doesn't moron shut the frick up Black person you are so fricking dumb
bro i work a 9-5 actually doing shit, managing a team of people. yeah i like generating shit on the weekends for fun, what's the big deal? you're moronic
and you’re a seething nosciencer
Coolstory. Once we transcend our mortal bodies we won’t need to work hard at anything, and merit will be obsolete. Resistance is futile, amirite?
Us humans will continue being human while you work on your endgame cope.
i don’t even know what you’re attempting to communicate. you sound mad though
i bet you donated to BLM
>art for recognition
Wew. Generating porn is nice because it can cater to your very specific tastes. They aren't meant to be shared, unless you like exposing your headspace or finding new ideas from likeminded people.
Art is culture. Art must be recognized for humans to see themselves in it. From this, culture is born. Degenerate art is culture, fine art is culture. Humans making things themselves is culture.
As if the endgoal is to produce culture. At least with porn, the sole purpose is to get off. There's definitely art in the ways you can achieve this that's worth sharing for expaning your horizons, but in the end it's solitary act, made for private sensibilities only. That's how I see AI generated porn, the value is like all the photos only you care about, and eventually forget as well.
No. Porn art is its own culture within the anime/freak subculture. It’s misfits celebrating art and sexuality and human desire in stylized form. People do in fact bond over doujins and hentai shit. People see human folly and tragedy, even in stupid porn plots. And they jerk off and shlick to it. Sometimes it’s just about nutting, but it’s still culture.
I don't follow your point anymore. Are you saying that generated shit isn't culture? People are sharing their methods.
NAIv3 is getting scarily close, it can do niche poses and expressions.
Generated art is antihuman culture. So yeah, I’m thinking it’s culture. Celebration of the vacuum and no mind. It’s Borg shit. Misguided at least, humanity destroying at worst
There's a will and curator behind every generated image. Their social value is near 0 for how easy it is to will into existence, but it still human. The skill shifts fully from fine-motorics to sense of aesthetics.
>The skill shifts fully from fine-motorics to sense of aesthetics.
It seems that the latter doesn't exist.
It's like photography. Eventually the honeymoon phase passes and only the good shit starts going around.
Have you heard of instagram?
Sure. I also have never used it. I'm pretty sure the vast majority of images posted there are seen by your social circle at best, and promptly forgotten. Just like AI art will be, except there's no social value so it's even less cared about. Then there's the photography that ends up being shared for looking nice. The same applies for AI art eventually.
Actually there's already one form of AI art that floats around without the AI clout. Images like pic related but but more sneaky. Old idea sure, but stuff like it will stick around beyond the AI label.
Gotta say AI is ahead of the curve on art with multiple meanings or pictures.
Social value zero? Agreed. I’m done replying to this thread. It inspired me to make a youtube video.
Good luck with the video anon.
You can use AI to augment your abilities. It's not over.
Sexuality is a big part of culture.
Seething artc**t, get a real job. Drawing isn't hard and your "creativity" isn't real after all.
says he: after posting an anime girl hand draw by a real person
both "artists" and ai gays are morons, society is fricked, make a hut in the woods
Seething
You don't have to though, I'll give (you) for you to feel better!
>huh duh let me pretend to be smug while I'm getting replaced by AI in real time.
>huh duh let me pretend to be smug while I'm about to be replaced by AI in real time.
Post your art, inkcel. So we can laugh at it.
I'm proomoter myself. Nothing personnel kid.
You have done nothing good in your entire life.
Anon I use SD, im giving you shit for paying, moron.
Go to bed
>laid via admiration.
damn you must get so much pussy on discord
>pussy
More like bussy. OP is a gay
>something about getting laid
Bad bait.
total artroony death
Porn isn't art and no one fricking cares frick off moron
learn2code
stfu inkcel you fricking c**ts are the worst. I subscribe to this one frick to draw futanari and instead of drawing he starts writing fricking garbage sex stories. AWWW POOR YOU! Oh no someone used your picture on twitter. You said you didnt want that? WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA. I fricking hate artist legit. I hope AI destroys you all.
>40 years of essentially ALL forms of art going to shit
>a shitty program that can generate reasonably good looking things come out, and the quality trade-off is well worth it considering how much some shit moron artist charges
>i can get a big titted gibson girl just by asking for it, in exactly the style i want
>artgays, the people who are responsible for ALL art going to shit, lose their fricking minds and screech
no pity, you dug your own grave, lie in it
This looks dumb as frick and also bad, which is why you jerk off to it.
post something better that you drew, with timestamp
looks better than your anime slop
>art going to shit
>what I don't like is in the lime light
Paying for a private commission seems more productive than discounting the industry
You have no talent then.
What if you like use the AI to refine your methods?
Just remember that israeliteS did this to you!
You know who else was denied his art career by israeliteS?
If a user can train or use a LORA to replace you, you are a poor artist who draws the same things over and over. The best artists in a niche cannot be replicated accurately using SD.
Try NovelAI moron. With sufficient training data it can mimics artist style really well and there's no censorship
There's little to no censorship on SDXL with sufficient training data. Even with SD 2 or 1.5 you should be fine overcoming any censorship built in if you have a sample set of 20+ images. I'm talking about basic standards here. If you can't even beat that you are done for.
Yea no thanks, free models are shit anyway. I'm paying 25$ per month to have unlimited gen and good quality coom.
>awooga.png
Pic unrelated, I presume
It's from NovelAI model. Artc**t lose
you seriously pay to jerk off to this generic ugly negress?
you paid $25 to still get fricked up hands?
Silly Anon. Keystrokes keystrokes.
total artist death
TAD
based
artists are annoying as frick
Yeah, music is gay. I want to watch robots play my favorite song xyd366q99 with extra reverb in Vr while I shoot heroin
everything worth consuming has already been created
You sound boring and positively nonced.
you sound like an artist
We still need more sun-kissed lactating futa e-girls, much more in fact.
Frick NSFW artists. All but a few of them I've commissioned are lazy prima donnas, and the last one I paid has fricking ghosted me and several other people.
I still think (the current state of) AI is sort of a meme, but it's incredibly based that shit like Stable Diffusion has become popular. My GPU doesn't whine and complain and make excuses.
I still remember the "just drop out of school and become a furry porn artist" posts from 2015.
>pay my bills now
you'll have to get a soul-crushing job. but you can still draw things you like.
also ask your expatrons why they find ai-art to be an substitute. i assure you i didn't tell them to stop paying you
As someone who's done a fair bit of shitty 3d comics that still have had fairly decent view counts and using various 3d apps where i just set up the scenes - no real modelling or anything. When the AI came out, I was hyped that I coudl finalyl make hentai mangas easily, but it turned out, it's just so much more hassle than the old way of setting up 3d scenes. Maybe as an actual artist, you could include some bits of AI in your workflow and focus on story.
What do you people have against artists?
What did we do to you?
TAD
You've shown a light on their incompetence, and ineptitude.
Modern Art is shit
Yet you jerk off to it, curious.
Only if it's Japanese
It's still modern.
ruined art
>What do you people have against artists?
Ableist. Gatekeeping art to only those with dexterity and skill and getting mad when even the limbless are given the ability to create.
usually artists are the kind to throw a temper tantrum when they realize that someone shared their image without paying. Now that we can generate images without them, they throw another temper tantrum.
The same would apply for programmers as well, but most solo programmers tend to open source their shit anyway, or at least don't throw a hissy fit when someone reverse engineers their stuff.
Their attitude
Higher prices and laziness.
making money for art feels souless. Art should be an interpretation of your soul imprinted through your skill and effort.
The only one that should reward you for your art is yourself
This is the truth. Collecting donations is all well ans good. But never confuse those for payment for your art.
Nothing, in fact I started appreciating artgays more after messing a fair bit with SD, even started drawing some simple shit myself for hobby's sake. That being said, a few bad apples can certainly ruin many people's opinions.
I still however think that NSFW artists will eventually dry up, as tech improves, hell look at NAI v3 managing to uncuck SDXL, and they have a new model coming from scratch, as well as many other interesting ideas, like LLaVa captioning training with Pixart. Your best bet is diving into more psychologycally driven progressions instead of just setpieces. Might as well learn stuff yourself to accelerate stuff like backgrounds.
In regards to gatekeeping... The good days when the best tech was also free and easily accessible are coming to an end. Midjourney might've been nothing but a side grade to existing models, but way more advanced tech is in the works and it will be paywalled or at least severely globohomo'd. The cutting edge will return to proprietary sector once again, and everybody will be getekept by companies hoarding GPU's. There are already arguments between localBlack folk and paypigs.
Frankly, I don't mind if the cutting edge is always held by the corpos with paywalls, so long as the second best is still able to be done locally and open source at our own discretion. There will always be makers and hackers wanting to tinker with local stuff.
If Disney comes out with DirectorAI that makes the best personalized movies for a subscription, then I'll be perfectly fine working with pirated local models that can make slightly less amazing stuff. Especially since their model will be redlined and guardrailed to high hell.
the dynamics inevitable anyway tbh
anything open source is just copied by the companies and their stuff stays locked down unlkess it leaks
If you happened to use any SD 1.5 checkpoint within the last year, especially anime-focused ones, it's definitely finetuned NAI model. Only time will tell how much corpos will frick us over.
I'm aware. That NAI leak really supercharged the anime models.
These are nice, here is mine.
nothing personnel but i like the infinite art era
Artists are some of the most annoying people I've met in my life. So call it a primal hate.
I merely asked my artist friends what the problem with Ai art was. I was ignorant about the subject and wanted to know what the big deal was. The level of hate I received just by asking was crazy. Lost alot of friends because of using AI. Was sad at first but now I say frick em.
Haha I have nothing against artists but you are not an artist, if an AI can do your job it means you are not an artist because artistry requires creativity (drawing furry smut does not require creativity)
nothing. i like you and would support more people if i had the income. but the market changed and its actually sad that many creators now might have to stop doing art as the prices fall to the bottom.
your only chance is to use it to to rapid prototype or save time etc
Prototyping for reference is pretty ethical, but actually using the image that gets pooped out is cringe. Humans objectively make better art.
yeah or just like backgrounds is fine. AI needs a lot of finishing touches
>Humans objectively make better art.
That gap is closing FAST.
push the "anyone can learn to draw" meme
Patreon is way too unstable to perpetually rely on.
You should have prepared for this. This site barely functions as is
You are not entitled to have people buy your products.
Good. Learn2weld/Learn2solder.
Drawing degeneracy is not a real job.
>NSFW artist
You make crude pornography for degenerates. Probably of stolen characters. You not getting paid is progress.
Whats your opinion on artists like incase? Incredibly talented and continues to improve his craft.
sales has less to do with skill and more to do with marketing.
for whatever reason, people lost interest in you, most likely reason is that someone copied all your pictures to e-hentai or whatever website.
Also you have not mentioned your commission decrease (which also has nothing to do with AI art because the only decent image AI is dall-e which can't create porn, but it can do soft-core to some extent).
I would pay you to do some work. Do you have a portfolio?
It is EXTREMELY difficult to get patreon going within any semblance of steadyness and those who are paying are generally very loyal fans.
You're lying.
NTA but check different artists on graphtreon. A lot of them are decreasing significantly.
I wonder if the economy has anything to do with it...
fake and gay story
>Still seething beyond lunacy
Yikes and cringepilled
I'm not an artist so I'm genuinely curious how hard it would be to use AI to do like 80% of the work for you and then clean it up/alter it by hand? Couldn't a NSFW artist vastly improve their output speed by integrating AI into their workflow?
Not hard at all, just time consuming. And artists are, ironically, not very creative. They would first need somebody to do the work to figure out a way to integrate it into the workflow, then they would adopt it.
>just time consuming
OK but it can't be that hard to integrate it into your workflow, right? It's just time spent now to exponentially save time in the future. Seems like a no-brainer. The time saved could even be spent learning some new skills like writing and scripting. NSFW visual novels make buckets of money with minimal additional effort.
>OK but it can't be that hard to integrate it into your workflow, right?
No, it would just require creativity. Which again, most artists are not...
You know how there exists AI-interpolated that moves at a shit-stain ugly """60 FPS"""? Turns out that, using that exact technique, you can get real actual inbetweens if you use AI interpolation smartly.
Limit the output framerate to either 30 FPS (webtoons) or 24 FPS (traditional film). Chop up every camera shot into its own video file (prevents the program from trying to interpolate camera cuts). Pass each video file through the interpolator. Use a video editor to go through each video file. Discard frames you don't like, discard buggy frames.
Re-time the shots by inserting duplicate frames where needed. Decide whether a scene needs to be on 1's, 2's, or 3's to look its best, and act accordingly. Did it start looking choppy because you had to cut too many frames? Take your edited output and pass it through the interpolator again.
I consider myself picky when it comes to animation timing, so I was impressed with what I was able to get out of it. It's absurdly faster than doing all the inbetweens yourself or even with a team. It'll never be as good as a skilled animator's work, but none of us have the free time or spare money to actually do animation right. This is the next best thing and it's highly capable in the hands of people who have experience with animation.
If you want to make your dream animation come true but you've never had the time or energy, this could be a serious breakthrough. AI is exciting as hell for me, a former drawgay that had to abandon it to take on real work. And I think there's room for artists to work with AI, too. The world today demands impossibly fast and cheap turnaround. These workloads+deadlines are not feasible, and they don't pay enough nor give enough benefits. In this race to the bottom, AI is the only way to stay afloat- and for hobbyists, AI assistance alleviates your time-and-money hindrance so you can actually *finish what you started*.
The workflow you'd want looks something like:
> Sketch out a rough idea of what you want.
> Using ControlNet, get a few ideas of how to finalize it
> Go back and paint the final, rough colors in
> Get an AI model to convert that to a proper, detailed image. Repeat until you get what you want
> Inpaint edit to perfect
> Hand-paint to finalize
All of this should save a lot of time. There are a few artists I follow that are so fast and so high quality I cannot imagine that they are not using this technique. The trouble comes when you need to do any very complex scenes - it'll generally have trouble with those.
People in the industry and some artists are using "collage" technique where they cut a couple of photos, overlay them one on another with different layer properties and opacities and from that chaos "extending" whatever useful could be found. A funky texture, gesture, composition and so on.
AI may automate this particular process which is something that directly could help the workflow and is a good base to start drawing for real...But then shit is a bit muddier.
If 80% of the work is done by final generation then to fix errors and issues an artist has to be skilled enough to fully imitate render that AI does. It's very hard and since it's very uniformed will require a lot of time as well.
If you do 80% of work yourself and let AI to touch it up - it will take a currently trained model and will filter through the entire thing changing it compeletely. Even if you'll set up to warp only areas of the drawing they will stand out like a sore thumb.
In both cases it feels like it stops being "yours".
Not hard at all, thats what I do. what used to take me 16 hours to draw start to finish now takes me at 4-5 hours. It depends on the level of detail. I dont draw realistic but I do like making my shadows detailed.
Compete, find a new job, or get people to come together so that people who can't find work even if they try can still have their basic needs met. Otherwise, shut up.
you stole the work first gay, you stole the ideal created by god, and then the craftsman who brought it into this world. DEAL WITH IT THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN U AND AI IS AI HAS BETTER MEMORY AND NOT PRONE TO ERRORS SO THEY CAN DRAW WITHOUT MISTAKES.
I will never pay for porn.
Start doing stuff that AI is very bad at and what the state of the art models refuse to do.
So basically e-girl and feet. Also animations.
This is the key.
Been doing 2D/3D shit on Patreon since 2017 myself. Went through the same doomer phase when AI hit, but then I took a good hard look at the tech and realized that the only people who have something to fear are the people making boring uninspired artwork in the first place.
It's trivial to come up with poses and scenes that AI simply cannot replicate. Just up your game and come up with something creative for once. If it's relatively unique, AI won't be able to touch you, and any jackass lame enough to try and train a LORA on your shit will only ever be a cheap knockoff (which, IMHO, is no different then artists trying to trace your shit- it'll never be the same as an original).
AI is neat and it's a tool that has a place and time, but it will never replace actual artists making actually creative stuff on a professional level. If you're getting filtered on Patreon by sd-webui, then your shit probably sucked to begin with and it was only a matter of time.
Up your game. Innovate or die. Outdoing AI isn't hard, it just requires a bit of effort. I've increased my pledges by over 30% in the past two years just by focusing on what people want and offering something AI can never touch- creativity, unified designs, interesting poses, and coherent animations.
It ain't frickin' hard. Stop being so lazy.
codemonkeys laughing like they're not next on the chopping block.
pottery.
Everyone is on the chopping block. And everyone will continue to laugh at the last guy who lost their job until they also end up with no job
AI wont be able to do my job any time in the next 50 years
Yeah yeah, and the automobile will never be able to do the job of a horse. You'll confidently repeat that right up until you lose your job 3 years from now.
I'd really love to see AI replace sat divers in five years, let alone three. Not to mention I'm a team lead, so I would be overseeing the AI...
The only reason your cute little underwater basket weaving job wasn't automated 20 years ago was because it's not important enough to bother automating yet.
Do... do you not realize how much critical infrastructure is on the sea floor?
Do you not realize that anyone can do your job with a few months of training? And that once 2/3rds of the jobs get automated, there will be a lot more people desperately flooding your job, driving down your value significantly? Nobody gets out of this without pain.
Most anyone can do most anything, but they dont.
And even if they did start flooding to my field I would be the one hiring and training them, so lol no yeah I would definitely benefit.
Dont be mad just because I have job security and you dont.
BTFO'd –>
based r/drama reader
It's music, in a can.
As another old artgay, I'm more forgiving when it comes to reading into soul. A talented human touch can make AI art more soulful, but it's not exactly devoid of soul. Semi-related, what do you think of AI creating accidental horror? e.g. too many mouths, weird teeth, strange movement, etc. I think AI horror is a unique and extremely enjoyable genre all on its own without a human touch. It's genuinely sickening in a way I don't think human art has ever made me feel.
Picrel, I highly recommend watching that video if you have a strong stomach. There's no gore or taboo subjects, yet it manages to make me feel sick like no other art can. Unironically I think that's a great thing.
there's no way i contribute as much value as they pay me. it's inevitable... 1/10th bros we are so fricked
Maybe you should try not making slop
Most "artists" I'm seeing these days are whiny b***hes with no personality in their works of "art" and the only reason people pay attention to them is because they didn't come across any of the other 57 homosexuals doing the same thing
use your skills and AI to make better porn.
You was legitimately poisoning the minds of men, especially young men who were already in a dark ditch.
I try my best to reserve judgment, for I truelly resent the caricature of religious zealots, and believe judgment is reserved for god.
You however will not find any empathy from me, you sought to burn everything down for a few coins, everyone else be damned. I hope you come to lose that 200 too.
You're no different than those Onlyfans women who prostitute themselves.
I hate entitled porn artists too buddy but christBlack persondry like this ain't getting you nowhere pal
>I can't win money exploiting horny anymore
Sucks to be you
Kys troony
>didn't train his art style in
>didn't automate prompting from requests
>didn't take your own job away from yourself but still pocket the money
You even had the skills to touch up AI's faults. Better start practicing asking people if they want extra bullshit with their purchase (fries, warranties, etc).
Listen man, we're stealing our own work and stripping ourselves of our livelihoods too. If we knew how to stop it we would, but we don't so we might as well make some quick money on it before we all lose our jobs together.
Probably a troll, but for anyone who actually thinks this way: What do you expect? For technology to completely halt to protect your little job? That's completely unreasonable and ridiculous. If we took that moronic attitude seriously, we would have banned cars to protect the horse market. Things change, regardless of you who you are. Get over it.
I make all my AI art for free without a patreon etc despite people offering because I have a real job
Have you considered that?
https://rdrama.net/post/201369/total-ai-art-victory-17k-upboats
It's over
post hole inkcel
Maybe they don't want to pay $10 a month for one anime girl jpeg.
AI has nothing to do with this, the disposable income people got from covid checks and policies like student loan pauses have dried up completely and now the economy also sucks ass. Your coomer customers are choosing to pay their own bills rather than your subscription fees.
>NSFW artist
>artists
>steals other peoples likeness to post reaction image
>artist
>doesn't make art, just commissions
hmm
If it makes you feel better even without AI art I still wouldn't have paid for your patreon and would've opted out for one of those leak sites.
>leak sites
just use rule34
They remove a metric frick ton of stuff
Speaking of, kemono's fanbox importer is STILL broken. What they frick they are doing?
mfw
>I'm a NSFW artist
>Initially worried when AI hit the mainstream about a year ago
>Patreon growth even to this day remains constant and steady
Good bait post everyone fell for it
you cant begin to imagine how happy your post makes me op.
you used to be talented, special, but now thanks to ai you are just another talentless moron, like the rest of us.
get a fricking job.
>How am I supposed to pay my bills now?
By getting a real job homosexual
>be me
>NSFW thinker
>Had no steady anything with any subscribers
>AI hits
>Now I can be AI artist
>jerk off everyday to AI
Painting monkeys is very good for your free time, but you need a real job.
I dunno, mang. I’m an oldgay. I started using wacoms when they were absolute dog. I was here when deviantart first started. I’ve watched careers blossom and stagnate. Meanwhile, I’ve just been drawing and writing for fun for a couple decades. I don’t think my art has improved much since I was a kid, but it just feels good. It keeps me young and not burnt out. And honestly, all this AI stuff looks dead to me. My little waifu doodles have so much more life. I compare my stuff with AI objectively, and I just can’t feel much from AI. AI kinda creeps me out, teebs.
Bro has the balls to call this soulless...
I’ll keep it real with you. That looks kinda cool. There is a concept in there somewhere, but I’m immediately like, what if an artist redrew that and refined everything so there were no more vague, amorphous shapes. As a reference, that’s potentially useful. On it’s own, I give it a 5.6/10, which is pretty good since the AI waifu stuff is like a 2/10 from my perspective.
Exactly, my boy. AI art isnt soulless, its a skill issue. The idea you sense? It was my prompt, I was inspired by The Oh Hellos song Eurus.
Heres one that more closely matches the inspiration
Under the table where she dines
I sit hungry with my mouth foamed white
Fighting for crumbs that trickle down
As she finishes her cake, then takes a bite from mine
Everything, always, is a skill issue
I think the art this model is trained on is lending a lot to its palatability. Anime art tends to be heavily symbolic in shape language, while also being ultra refined. When AI tries to do that it looks sterile. The dirtiness of your images is more forgiving, but I would like to see this one redrawn by a human too
The dirtyness was a part of the prompt. It was something like
>rough, splotchy, mockup watercolor painting of only golds and blacks.
Reds and blacks for the bottom center image, obviously.
Here is an anime style drawing I prompted a while back. It captures the expressive visual language of japshit art pretty well.
And when you say something is missing, obviously its missing the human element. You cab see the human intent behind a bad drawing, but a bad ai drawing just looks bad period.
Thats just how it is, i personally dont see why thats a bad thing. Especially if AI can be this good...
You got me all excited now, going through my older generations. I wanna share a few more 😀
I see. Yes, the human element is what I’m talking about. I’m glad you can see that it’s missing. I don’t know if it captures the expressiveness. It does look like it’s trying to check the boxes of it though.
It reminds me of a stencil. Layers of stencils. That missing human element is like a lack of context.
I dont agree that its a problem. Like I see the missing element, but it looks good even though it doesnt have it. Idk why we need it.
Is it just that it feels weird?
I guess it’s relative to your life experience. Maybe. For me, it doesn’t feel valuable. It can come across as tasteless. I guess I don’t know why it’s here, which is confusing.
AI horror makes sense because it’s inherently scary. It’s a natural enemy to the human soul.
>I guess I don’t know why it’s here, which is confusing.
Hey, damn. Thats a really good point. I'm so glad you put it like that, because I understand completely. Very clear, thank you so much.
Idk how hard it would be to find, but yoy should head over to the dalle thread and ask for archive links to the story anons posts. He has like a dozen stories he made, theyre silly and consist of maybe 6-12 images a piece.
Maybe ai art, when presented with a narrative, has a little bit of soul. Or maybe like some different kind of soul.
I am so genuinely excited to see how humanity integrates this technology into its psyche.
Also ive had the idea for a while now to to stitch together ai generated manga art into an actual action comic. I wonder how that would feel to look at. But im lazy so Ill never know.
I think of it less as an enemy and more as a warped culmination of human culture and desires. The lack of soul comes from it being created without any intent from the machine that choicelessly generates it. What soul it does have is that which is out of the human's control, "errors" that they will never be able to fix — not without making new algorithm/ technologies, that is. One day, if AI generation is perfected, what little soul AI has will be stripped away, and it will instead be a perfect slave, much to our horror.
The AI is the artist.The twisted algorithm and the patterns extracted from terabytes of training of training data managed to make something resembling an artist. The prompter commissions the work, and the AI artist does it. All without needing food, sleep, money, without snark, and in almost instantly. Prompters are not artists. They are commissioners. Learning no more than how best to request the work from the AI artist.
A few months ago it was inconceivable that an algorithm could produce art. At least not real one. Piet Mondrian doesn't count. And now here we are. An algorithm figured out beauty. They still make a few mistakes here and there. A six figured hand. A misspelled letter. Small mistakes. If they aren't yet indistinguishable from human-produced work, they will be. Oh they will be. The genie is out of the bottle, and this is the world we live in.
I don't know what advice to give other than
and
It's an AIs world now. We're just living in it.
These look amazing, please feed some nuggets of wisdom while you are in a mood to gloat
I lack the terminology to even begin to reverse engineer the principles here, and they are better than anything posted in any general on any board
Anony, youre gonna make me cum.
Heres the only prompt I could find in my notes
>watercolor art, limited color pallete of black red and blue, grand narrative artistic depiction of "a young inexperienced mage idly playing with a weave of fate as he rests beneath an old willow."
I'm really sorry I didnt save more prompts
If this is SD you can slam the output images into the reader tab and extract the whole prompt. If it is not SD and instead one of the proprietary options I am locked out any way but thanks, watercolor, limited pallete and 'grand narrative artistic depiction' are keys I would never have thought of while the rest is similar to one of the styles I played around with, and thats a great match.
I usually try to proompt around stuff I have written before (or got as output in conjunction with a LLM) and maybe this is the sauce to make it worthwhile
>But it can also be a good way of just letting the ai do its thing and seeing what it shits out.
This has been one major fascination of mine because just seeing what the AI associates with certain words is fantastic. Another way to paly with vagueness is to feed it a massive text (ie a synopsis or wikipedia paragraph) and see what it shits out. Not exactly a way to make art but a fun game.
Your style of prompting seems way more compatible with what I want out of the gen without micromanaging every detail, so thanks.
Provided this is in fact SD, which model are you using?
Dalle3.
Damn shame, guess I will wait 5 years
Patience is a virtue. And in this upcoming AI epoch, I have a feeling it will become a survival strategy
With some adjustments, heres a good example of how impercise and vauge language hinders the AIs ability to give you what you want.
But it can also be a good way of just letting the ai do its thing and seeing what it shits out.
>watercolor art, limited color pallete of rich vibrant blues and black, grand narrative artistic depiction of "an elderly fisherman unaware of the dangers lurking beneath his rickety boat." top half framed man in boat bottom half framed elusive yet ever present dangers of the sea
I implore you, anon. Take the skill pill.
Pretty cool. Don’t you get the feeling something is missing though?
okay gramps
Okay, grandson
sorry man,you can't stop the growth of a technology which does the job easier,better,faster,cheaper than you,you simply can't compete againts technology which in every way are superior,the only thing you can do is adapt and evolve to work with it
>You aren't only stealing our work
explain what was stolen
That means your "art" is garbage.
Only talentless hacks complain about AI art.
Yes, am happy
no one's fault but your own that your skill is easily replaceable
Migu says:
Shut up, Anon, you homosexual.
I’m so glad I can just goon to AI art now. Imagine being a grown man begging and paying another man to draw a curvy fox to jack off to. Not to mention the superiority complex artists tend to have. Like all you do is doodle on a paper, you are NOT that important to be a prick to others. I’d rather have an electrician be a prick to me than an artist.
Frick all artists I hope they starve to death.
Prompting takes very little time compared to drawing and you can pump out studio quality CGI shorts in mere hours compared to doing it by hand. I know this because I'm an artist who got into AI through /sdg/ last year and now I use DALL-E 3 and PikaLabs to do what I've wanted to do for ages.
Honestly at this point there's no reason not to switch to prompting unless you are a 100% traditional artist. Even then you can use prompts to give you great reference material for your art. Maybe try and work on that animation project you've been meaning to make forever using prompts instead of trying to draw out every single frame from scratch. You can even prompt model sheets and storyboards for it. No need to force yourself to draw every little thing. This will free you and make drawing fun again.
Pic related was generated by DALL-E 3 btw
>Even then you can use prompts to give you great reference material for your art
For all kinds of art too!
Imagine having to draw all that *by hand*
And what's worse is: people actually used to do that.
It's like *walking* to the other side of the country, instead of using a plane.
Am I glad AI is here to save mankind billions of man-hours of lost time doing dull work.
Seriously, everybody has these grand ideas but never realizes the effort it takes to actually draw all of it out, especially when it comes to animation. I remember Butch Hartman said something about this when it came to writer/animator discrepancies
Sad that you don’t know why artists do it. They live the experience of making it. They feel as they draw. The activity is the reward. It’s so intimate.
If you really want to you can switch to traditional art. Only wet and dry media, no Photoshop, no AI. The bright side to this is it's a lot easier to connect with other artists in real life if that is what you want. But most of them probably won't be into the hentai stuff so you'll have to see what's trending IRL
>Woe is me I am le suffering artist
Not buying your LARP. Draw Gura eating a Banana or GTFO
Another thread where aitrannies pretend like they are artists. Dont you trannies get sick of this shit? Always the same fricking replies aswell. You are beyond pathetic.
Work for a company like everyone else instead of slacking and being paid for "ideas" instead of giving full authorship of your work. Back in the day when somebody paid an artist to make something, it resulted in an object being given to the paying person.
Now they pay you to make a drawing and you post it wherever you want as promotion and the payer gets a dick in their mouth if they even dare to post it somewhere where you did not give authorization prior to the posting or usage.
Frick off to a 9-to-5 drawing all day long for ubisoft so they can rake millions while you cry yourself to sleep.
Weren't you gloating about AI replacing programmers and only your "artistic" fields would remain untouched by the inevitable advancement in automation technology?
Nope. This is another thing aitrannies havel literally made up in their heads. What you're referring to is coal miners and journalists. Why do you aitrannies always constantly lie. You are so pathetic that its actually kind of funny
Here, for you *kisskiss*
Hahaha
Look at this draw I made, do you like it?
Patreon??
This looks AI-gend. I can tell by some of the pixels and by seeing quite a few gens in my time.
Pixels don’t lie
Yes, it is
Forgot pic
Made with bleach
people can actually coom to aislop? Pathetic tbh
I remember apost on BOT yesterday that was some AI genned Peach that was so good it even attempted to gen the cutesexyrobutts patreon signature. It is literally over.
Society would collapse without artists and our sensitive, talented wieners. You’d all have a nice day without us. The only people left would be cow-eyed Indians prompting Miku Hatsune and praising allah that stable diffusion saved them from carpet merchanting
>Be me
>NSFW artist
Good, I'm glad your lewd "art" is no longer profitable. I hope the pornography industry collapse entirely. Get a real job, homosexual.
I'm not happy you lost your job but I'm happy to fap to AI.
Also, larp thread
I only respect paid artists that actually provide something like a graphic novel or game or something. Not some dumbass subscription for muh anime tiddies
>NSFW artist
If your work isn't safe for work then how are you able to do it?
I would guess you draw in an anime style since that's what most AI art that I see is.