I guess you could say that. frustrated midwits like you think your shitty thread is deserving of any space on this board. have a nice day, it's the only possible way to atone for your wasted bandwidth and oxygen.
Biological intelligence isn’t real it’s just a predictive algorithm
What makes you think your intelligence is any different.
Define hard intelligence. Intelligence that behaves like a human? Artificial intelligence is a lot less complex than evolutionary life, but already outperforms humans at games like chess. The human brain is already a predictive algorithm.
you aren't real you're just a predictive algorithm
Okay I could spend half an hour getting you the many readily available descriptions from neuroscientists about how that's not how brains work, predictive algorithm specialists in computer scientist saying that "artificial intelligence" was a bad choice for a term from the 1970s, science fiction writers saying it's allegorical and not to be taken literally, biologists describing how living sentience does not work this way, and the many examples of hucksters using AI to start financial scams or outright cults - all of which you could easily google yourself if you weren't an obstinate shit-head and had any curiosity about the world around you and the sensible habit of checking your own assumptions for validity - or I could not waste time doing shit you are going to completely ignore and remind you that demanding others prove a negative by default makes you an abject retard and you have to prove your assertion that AI is in any way even remotely within the realm of physical possibility and not a fucking god-in-the-machine mythology for masturbation-addled manchildren.
What you call "hard artificial intelligence" is not possible inside the staggeringly limited toybox of electronic computers. It is an emergent property of extremely complex self-correcting biological systems within a dynamic environment and are many many magnitudes more complicated than binary or even quantum computing.
Define hard intelligence. Intelligence that behaves like a human? Artificial intelligence is a lot less complex than evolutionary life, but already outperforms humans at games like chess. The human brain is already a predictive algorithm.
>Muh CHEEEEEESSSSSSSS >Muh GOOOOOOOOOOO
I don't care how many possible moves there are, if it's a constrained ruleset with a finite number of states relatively smaller than the number of atoms in the universe no shit a computer is going to be faster
Where's the AI that can play chess, draw pictures like DALL-E, can operate a humanoid robot to do housework, and write original novels using the same algorithm? Doesn't exist, and never will exist
Science is already breeching the cusp of what's physically possible. AGI, wormholes, etc are just the philosopher's stone of today, things that'd be neat if they were possible to create but we never will.
>What you call "hard artificial intelligence" is not possible inside the staggeringly limited toybox of electronic computers
We can sufficiently *model* very small aspects of it but no, the overall brain/mind is not going to be efficiently reproduced with hardware that a century later is still function-designed around performing calculations (a thing we only do as high-level thinking). GPT is not the same thing as mammalian pattern recognition, it just looks like it to people who can't tell the difference (or believe it's close enough not to matter).
>I hope OP gets perma'd so they stop shitting the place up.
Of all the annoying shits on BOT, the anti-AI cult might actually be the worst. They are such drooling retards it's astounding.
people are so fucking mad at this copypasta but unable to counter its points because they desperately need to believe we're entering the singularity
people who do not write software but very likely own crypto or think Web3 is a thing
Please explain how looking at something and deriving information from your surroundings isn’t a flesh prediction/algorithm? You’re thinking thoughts constantly, so that flesh algorithm is working as intended.
I fucking hate LLM so much.
fuck useless piece of PR trash.
all LLM research are fucking garbage.
bros, we need to go back to doing AI research pre-LLM.
you mean ChatGPT... it's static precomputed model, but if it were to modify itself in real time then yes it would be 1:1 human and you can only cope about it
>but if it were to modify itself in real time then yes it would be 1:1 human
What? You mean it would be a person, not human? Or that it would be at least self-aware?
You can train AIs off of AIs. Except they get worse (and more confident), not better.
low IQ post, a computer can never directly experience anything, it can only "think" in numerical values HUMANS assign meaning too. A computer doesnt what a "human" is, it doesnt even what it is outisde of some ascii value. It doesnt know what color red is or what lizard is and it never can because when you take off the cover it is just an abacus that assigns the letters "tree" to when rows 246 are on on the right and 135 is off on the left. It is fake and gay and you are cringe and retarded
>it can only "think" in numerical values
Neurons also "think" in numbers. Except numbers are the firing frequency and various electrochemical processes inside of them. There's no reason why "AI" couldn't contain those phenomena in its model.
There's no such thing as a "direct experience". There are no "pure" experiences whatever that even means.
A CMOS photo sensor turns incoming photons into electric charge which a controller senses as an electric potential. A photoreceptor cell in a human eye turns photons into membrane electric potential. Both brain and a computer "experience" a voltage difference.
>you mean ChatGPT... it's static precomputed model, but if it were to modify itself in real time then yes it would be 1:1 human
The ability to learn from experience and potentially change a model is A goal, but not the endgame in any way here.
>statistics isn't real math it's just predictive analytics
It's common for subhuman iq mongoloids to not understand statistics. Humans don't have a natural framework for an intuitive understanding of statistics. Since you are not smart enough to understand what you are talking about I suggest you shut the fuck up and try to learn from someone who is not a genetic dead end such as yourself.
>if simulating the intelligence of a brain is worth it on any modern computer.
Human intelligence is an evolutionary response to severe environmental stresses and a few lucky mutations that delayed speech acquisition allowing us to linguistically conceive object-subject relations, in conjunction with the absolute necessity to pass down knowledge generationally in order to survive as a species.
It's hugely important to understand how many species lived longer on Earth without ever achieving what we call sentience because they found a niche that worked for them. We're 2 million years old and most of what we've achieved happened in a burst 35,000 years ago that eluded other hominids.
Now, people want to quantify all of that to a set of algorithms unrelated to survival or consequences despite the criticality of those to human intelligence.
Kind of absurd how dualists (rightfully) talk about the hard problem of consciousness but then turn around and say they know for certain AI can't and never will be real.
How do you know? You don't have access to any potential phenomenal experience an AI may or may not have.
They don't realize their "you can't know nuffin" argument swings both ways.
The only thing you can really test is intelligence itself, which AI can pass.
please do ML 101, this has been discussed countless times and you pseudo degenerates keep repeating the same BS over and over.
information grouping can't develop intelligence or awareness
i have a theory that "people" like you operate similarly to "ai", that's why your superficial perception support this deluded concept.
intelligence is the ability to use the information you have to construct systematic product, not to repeat or slightly permuted existing information.
this entire fucking board is so shit
does anyone around here ever talk about science or math or anything actually related to BOT or is it just bait threads like this all the time
I feel like every thread I read is actively killing brain cells, what a shitty fucking board
I come back every now and then to see if it improved
it just remains the same if not gets worse
at this point the entire board should be nuked and start again
also too many 4chan threads here full of absolute retardation
COVID was the self replicating AI and the vaxx helped deliver it. >over 70% of the worlds population has been inoculated with the [Q]uantum AI >13.4 billion doses administered
Now we just wait for them to roll out the new technohomo system and hook up all the cattle to it along with all the IoT devices before the inevitable. Many of the unvaxxed will line up for the boosters once UBI and other benefits are announced.
Human intelligence is a predictive algorithm. We parse together things we learn and experiences we have and generate thoughts and predictions the same way AI does.
We just have 3 billions years of trial and error (500mil as sentient life), so our organic intelligence appears more crisp and less clunky
However there's no reason we couldn't make a computer capable of housing a soul or projecting consciousness or whatever your model is. We just aren't anywhere close yet.
wow, so brave of you to say that.
you seem upset
This isn't groundbreaking information, and going against the mainstream news zeitgeist doesn't make you a computer scientist, stick to youtube gay
frustrated
I guess you could say that. frustrated midwits like you think your shitty thread is deserving of any space on this board. have a nice day, it's the only possible way to atone for your wasted bandwidth and oxygen.
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Biological intelligence isn’t real it’s just a predictive algorithm
The brain isn’t a computer >:(
Yes it is.
It's worse
Neither are electronics, only certain parts are used for computing.
>Neither are electronics, only certain parts are used for computing.
what do you mean? 0 and 1 are on and off currents
Depends on how you define computing. It doesn't have to be just 0 and 1 since analog computing is used all the time in modern electronics.
the definition of a computer was literally humans whose sole jobs was to compute things before digital machines, all humans are natural computers
>Artificial intelligence isn’t real
Oh really... is that why they call it... artificial?
What makes you think your intelligence is any different.
Okay I could spend half an hour getting you the many readily available descriptions from neuroscientists about how that's not how brains work, predictive algorithm specialists in computer scientist saying that "artificial intelligence" was a bad choice for a term from the 1970s, science fiction writers saying it's allegorical and not to be taken literally, biologists describing how living sentience does not work this way, and the many examples of hucksters using AI to start financial scams or outright cults - all of which you could easily google yourself if you weren't an obstinate shit-head and had any curiosity about the world around you and the sensible habit of checking your own assumptions for validity - or I could not waste time doing shit you are going to completely ignore and remind you that demanding others prove a negative by default makes you an abject retard and you have to prove your assertion that AI is in any way even remotely within the realm of physical possibility and not a fucking god-in-the-machine mythology for masturbation-addled manchildren.
So you're just complaining about a term due to the mechanism, but not really the result
What you call "hard artificial intelligence" is not possible inside the staggeringly limited toybox of electronic computers. It is an emergent property of extremely complex self-correcting biological systems within a dynamic environment and are many many magnitudes more complicated than binary or even quantum computing.
Define hard intelligence. Intelligence that behaves like a human? Artificial intelligence is a lot less complex than evolutionary life, but already outperforms humans at games like chess. The human brain is already a predictive algorithm.
the human brain is chaotic.
Chaos is relative. If it exists, there is order to it, I don’t care how chaotic it is.
>Muh CHEEEEEESSSSSSSS
>Muh GOOOOOOOOOOO
I don't care how many possible moves there are, if it's a constrained ruleset with a finite number of states relatively smaller than the number of atoms in the universe no shit a computer is going to be faster
Where's the AI that can play chess, draw pictures like DALL-E, can operate a humanoid robot to do housework, and write original novels using the same algorithm? Doesn't exist, and never will exist
Science is already breeching the cusp of what's physically possible. AGI, wormholes, etc are just the philosopher's stone of today, things that'd be neat if they were possible to create but we never will.
>Technonihilism
*Yawn* let's see in 17 yrs.
That guy was wrong. You are extra retarded
>What you call "hard artificial intelligence" is not possible inside the staggeringly limited toybox of electronic computers
We can sufficiently *model* very small aspects of it but no, the overall brain/mind is not going to be efficiently reproduced with hardware that a century later is still function-designed around performing calculations (a thing we only do as high-level thinking). GPT is not the same thing as mammalian pattern recognition, it just looks like it to people who can't tell the difference (or believe it's close enough not to matter).
You. Are. Re-tar-ded.
This is copy-pasted from /tg/.
This entire thing is a troll thread and not a very good one.
I hope OP gets perma'd so they stop shitting the place up.
Wow /tg/ is fucking low iq as hell
And BOT comes across as 4chan lite, along with BOT and BOT, your point?
>I hope OP gets perma'd so they stop shitting the place up.
Of all the annoying shits on BOT, the anti-AI cult might actually be the worst. They are such drooling retards it's astounding.
>anti-AI cult
You worship a computer program and you call others cultists?
people are so fucking mad at this copypasta but unable to counter its points because they desperately need to believe we're entering the singularity
people who do not write software but very likely own crypto or think Web3 is a thing
Negative responses to this post are being made exclusively by brainlets
Please explain how looking at something and deriving information from your surroundings isn’t a flesh prediction/algorithm? You’re thinking thoughts constantly, so that flesh algorithm is working as intended.
Woop a wall of text.
With lots of words.
And no sense.
google chinese room
It’s a flawed premise
it's a projection algorithm
God I hope Sama will go fucking bankrupt.
Is anything real?
Your stepborther becuase I'm fucker your mother is real retarggot
Retarded phoneposter
>no argument
I won retard
You aren't, but I am
I fucking hate LLM so much.
fuck useless piece of PR trash.
all LLM research are fucking garbage.
bros, we need to go back to doing AI research pre-LLM.
ai isnt what you think it is
machine learning is just applied statistics
its just undergrad mathgay shit
THE SOUL IS REAL
yes it is fake and gay and I have been telling the droolers here this for years
Why are you so stupid bodhi poopy head?
you mean ChatGPT... it's static precomputed model, but if it were to modify itself in real time then yes it would be 1:1 human and you can only cope about it
>but if it were to modify itself in real time then yes it would be 1:1 human
What? You mean it would be a person, not human? Or that it would be at least self-aware?
You can train AIs off of AIs. Except they get worse (and more confident), not better.
low IQ post, a computer can never directly experience anything, it can only "think" in numerical values HUMANS assign meaning too. A computer doesnt what a "human" is, it doesnt even what it is outisde of some ascii value. It doesnt know what color red is or what lizard is and it never can because when you take off the cover it is just an abacus that assigns the letters "tree" to when rows 246 are on on the right and 135 is off on the left. It is fake and gay and you are cringe and retarded
>it can only "think" in numerical values
Neurons also "think" in numbers. Except numbers are the firing frequency and various electrochemical processes inside of them. There's no reason why "AI" couldn't contain those phenomena in its model.
nope, doesnt work like that. You missed the part where I said "directly experience" things.
There's no such thing as a "direct experience". There are no "pure" experiences whatever that even means.
A CMOS photo sensor turns incoming photons into electric charge which a controller senses as an electric potential. A photoreceptor cell in a human eye turns photons into membrane electric potential. Both brain and a computer "experience" a voltage difference.
meds
now
Does a brain neuron know what the color red is outside of a chemical-electric pulse?
>you mean ChatGPT... it's static precomputed model, but if it were to modify itself in real time then yes it would be 1:1 human
The ability to learn from experience and potentially change a model is A goal, but not the endgame in any way here.
no you dont shut up idiot
You just made a calculated response, even though your calculations were flawed, you still made them.
>statistics isn't real math it's just predictive analytics
It's common for subhuman iq mongoloids to not understand statistics. Humans don't have a natural framework for an intuitive understanding of statistics. Since you are not smart enough to understand what you are talking about I suggest you shut the fuck up and try to learn from someone who is not a genetic dead end such as yourself.
Stupid thread you should ball have a nice day
you aren't real you're just a predictive algorithm
>a predictive algorithm
That is just a simplified way to describe intelligence.
>it’s just a predictive algorithm
Yes, and the term for this is artificial intelligence.
What you're looking for is AGI and this is in fact, not yet real and maybe never will.
It's real as of 3 months ago
well how does it matter my pcs runs all of the time i run all of the time during sleep their is jsut like never realy deep.
Humans aren’t real it’s just a bunch of cells.
>if simulating the intelligence of a brain is worth it on any modern computer.
Human intelligence is an evolutionary response to severe environmental stresses and a few lucky mutations that delayed speech acquisition allowing us to linguistically conceive object-subject relations, in conjunction with the absolute necessity to pass down knowledge generationally in order to survive as a species.
It's hugely important to understand how many species lived longer on Earth without ever achieving what we call sentience because they found a niche that worked for them. We're 2 million years old and most of what we've achieved happened in a burst 35,000 years ago that eluded other hominids.
Now, people want to quantify all of that to a set of algorithms unrelated to survival or consequences despite the criticality of those to human intelligence.
I'm a predictive algorithm made of atoms.
My failure rate is still higher than A.I. tho.
Kind of absurd how dualists (rightfully) talk about the hard problem of consciousness but then turn around and say they know for certain AI can't and never will be real.
How do you know? You don't have access to any potential phenomenal experience an AI may or may not have.
They don't realize their "you can't know nuffin" argument swings both ways.
The only thing you can really test is intelligence itself, which AI can pass.
please do ML 101, this has been discussed countless times and you pseudo degenerates keep repeating the same BS over and over.
information grouping can't develop intelligence or awareness
>information grouping can't develop intelligence or awareness
You don't and can't know, unless you can explain the mechanism behind consciousness.
>if you can't define intelligence this is intelligence
into the trash with the rest of your pseudo garbage
i have a theory that "people" like you operate similarly to "ai", that's why your superficial perception support this deluded concept.
intelligence is the ability to use the information you have to construct systematic product, not to repeat or slightly permuted existing information.
this entire fucking board is so shit
does anyone around here ever talk about science or math or anything actually related to BOT or is it just bait threads like this all the time
I feel like every thread I read is actively killing brain cells, what a shitty fucking board
>I hate BOT
why are you here?
I come back every now and then to see if it improved
it just remains the same if not gets worse
at this point the entire board should be nuked and start again
also too many 4chan threads here full of absolute retardation
COVID was the self replicating AI and the vaxx helped deliver it.
>over 70% of the worlds population has been inoculated with the [Q]uantum AI
>13.4 billion doses administered
Now we just wait for them to roll out the new technohomo system and hook up all the cattle to it along with all the IoT devices before the inevitable. Many of the unvaxxed will line up for the boosters once UBI and other benefits are announced.
Human intelligence is a predictive algorithm. We parse together things we learn and experiences we have and generate thoughts and predictions the same way AI does.
We just have 3 billions years of trial and error (500mil as sentient life), so our organic intelligence appears more crisp and less clunky
Thinking is by definition a prediction. Go fuck yourself.
poo poo thread
No one, and I mean NO ONE, can outsmart me!
>I am not real and I'm just a predictive algorithm
well yes.
That's what the data is demonstrating, yes.
However there's no reason we couldn't make a computer capable of housing a soul or projecting consciousness or whatever your model is. We just aren't anywhere close yet.
>materialism is le bad
Artificial intelligence can just be a predictive algorithm. Self awareness on the other hand will probably take different methods
I think you can't differentiate mind from intelligence.
Souls aren’t real.
>Artificial intelligence isn’t real
Yet
It will never be real >:(
allow AGI to play with even the most restrictive rules you can muster and it's game ovah.
Nuh-uh it will be real when I make myself an AI gf that will love me on C++
Prove it
Nothing like asking basic reading comprehension questions to a hot new sillyzog valley elelem to make you truly appreciate the human mind.
You've presented this as some sort of ground breaking discovery. Are you lagging?
>:(