Artificial Intelligence

Why do normies hate AI so much? I've never been more optimistic about a technology, but nobody else seems to feel the same way.

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  1. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because it's legit scary in many ways

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      What's scary about it?

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        How it's going to reshape the world, how state agents and big businesses will use it for their benefit, how we're training and using it to kill people more efficiently right now and nobody cares about it. I mean the full impact of such powerful tech is hard to fathom. How it can reshape the political landscape, the balance of power and make human will obsolete. This is a million times more dangerous than the discovery of the atom bomb

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Can you help me understand what the thrill is in writing this nonsensical fricking drivel?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            What part of it is nonsensical to you, astronomical moron?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            I think you're legit too low IQ to discuss this topic if you can't comprehend the basics of how powerful and dangerous this shit is potentially. Things even 'normies' understand lol. You are dumber than 90% of the human population. Fricking grim, lad.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Tech is just a tool anon. You are still an animal. You need nature, human connection, fulfilment to real things. Not some AI Boogeyman that solves imaginary problems. Could trivialize many jobs even trivializing human lives. Go watch some grifters talk about it on YouTube like it's the second coming of Christ. There's is one lapdog from the WEF that is especially disgusting to hear.

        I'm ok with AI like I'm ok with washing machines, but I wonder what side effects this will have to people's jobs, wealth distribution and whatnot. Because it seems like with more technology just came more responsibility, more work but now more specialized, more depression. It's like, the bar just keeps climbing so you wonder who is this really helping? I like my computer, sure. But I don't need it per say. I need human connection, fulfilment, safety, etc.

        Where does AI stand in this? Because if we follow the trend it seems like it's going to just make things worse. But this might be a low IQ take so I will just wait and see. I definitely wouldn't trust anyone on YouTube about this subject. Or any other subject to be honest. The internet is fundamentally a cesspool of lies and propaganda

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          It isn't the AI itself, it's the way our society is structured, as other posters have mentioned. The coin called "Progress" for our species has two sides to it, and both are necessary: social advancement and technological advancement. If you have an advanced society (good education, culture of mutual support and personal growth, honesty, government that is full of integrity rather than corruption), then you can live a good quality of life even without technology, up to a certain limit. For example, in the past one could have lived a rewarding life as a shepherd in a remote area under a noble town council, up until when you died from an infection that could not be combated because germ theory was unknown to you.
          On the other hand, if you have advanced technology but primitive social development, you are living in a despotic hellscape with advanced surveillance and AI-supported secret police. This is why people fear AI: we are currently living in a world where technological growth is accelerating but our social structures are only slightly improved from what they were post-WW2. Put short, we aren't ready for advanced technology, in a very analogous way to how it isn't responsible for toddlers to be around hot stoves and paranoid tyrants can't be trusted with nuclear or biological weapons.
          These two things reinforce each other, in either direction. A functioning society allows for stable scientific and industrial growth, and for people to equitably benefit from those advancements. Improvements to technology allow us to circumvent or solve problems of social organization (like the radio allowing for instantaneous cooperation on a global scale). Conversely, a broken society will have a constant drain of intelligent/skilled people departing for better shores, widespread depression and drug addiction, broken infrastructure, rebellious subpopulations, etc. that lower quality of life but also put the brakes on technological growth.

          Thanks chat gpt

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Well, that's a nice compliment but I wrote it full by hand and it even has some typos I didn't notice before submitting

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >digital currency
        >oops you accidentally looked like X which we decided is bad
        >no more participation in society
        Minority Report is right around the corner, only they won't even need your thoughts. Buyer profiles matching abstracted data of "bad guys" (whomever that's determined to be), will just get cut off. Would really suck to be an error percentage in that case. There are infinite dystopic possibilities, and very few good possible outcomes "AI" leads to, because it isn't AI, it's just data points and extrapolation.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          To be fair, they could and already "cancel" people for bad think. It's not like they need AI for that

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Headline today
        >AI can tell what you're typing through a zoom call based off sound

        Because it's going to further class stratification to a level that can probably not be overcome. Entry level jobs that are a path to middle class lifestyles are going to be taken away.

        Also this, and a lot of people are going to be out jobs

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          I would like to see AI tell what im typing based on the sound of my 26 key Colemak-dh keyboard

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >For the normie
        >AAAAAH LE HECKING WORD PREDICTOR IS GOING TO ACHIEVE CONSCIOUSNESS AND BECOME.LE SKYNET TERMINATOR JUST LIKE IN THE MOVIES
        >For everyone else with common sense
        >The neurotic sociopaths in control are going to abuse this technology to keep dehumanizing society and further entrenching their position of power by making everyone else poorer and more miserable

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          So basically Dune

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        People are scared by things they don't understand.

  2. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because it's going to further class stratification to a level that can probably not be overcome. Entry level jobs that are a path to middle class lifestyles are going to be taken away.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, but that will pale in comparison to how much more comfortable life will be with AI handling most things.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        In a capitalist society that will bring benefit to the few and destitution to many. It could be a good thing for all of us but most Americans are politically literate enough to know it won't benefit us. If you're not already rich it's a tool you'll never benefit from.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >how much more comfortable life will be with AI handling most things.
        If you're already wealthy. If you're not, it'll just make you much poorer and make it even harder to climb your way out.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      If you only think on the immediate consequences, then yes, but those same jobs will be replaced by others that require more creativity, less routine, and many items will be cheaper.
      That is, if government doesn't put moronic regulations and taxes as they always like to do.

  3. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    TV talking heads tell them what to think because ai poses a threat to government infrastructure.

  4. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because AI is never definitively correct, it can always make mistakes and errors, so it should never be trusted as the technology that runs things that can put life or property at risk - but we all know it will be.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      The problem isnt the AI but the people who'll use it and the insane power it will give them

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Medical malpractice kills thousands of people a year. Humans frick up all the time. AI doesn't have to be perfect 100% of the time, it just has to to be shown to be statistically more accurate than a human.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        an AI doctor that can examine your entire history and biometrics harvested for years would be incredibly helpful.
        not that i would advocate for such a thing because we are not in a morally just world, there's no doubt it could become a medical marvel.
        a doctor flips through your history sheet in 30 seconds and then recommends you some bullshit the computer suggests anyway with the current system. its inadequate.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      My brain is never definitively correct, it can always make mistakes and errors, but it is often trusted as the technology that runs things that can put life or property at risk.

  5. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    It isn't the AI itself, it's the way our society is structured, as other posters have mentioned. The coin called "Progress" for our species has two sides to it, and both are necessary: social advancement and technological advancement. If you have an advanced society (good education, culture of mutual support and personal growth, honesty, government that is full of integrity rather than corruption), then you can live a good quality of life even without technology, up to a certain limit. For example, in the past one could have lived a rewarding life as a shepherd in a remote area under a noble town council, up until when you died from an infection that could not be combated because germ theory was unknown to you.
    On the other hand, if you have advanced technology but primitive social development, you are living in a despotic hellscape with advanced surveillance and AI-supported secret police. This is why people fear AI: we are currently living in a world where technological growth is accelerating but our social structures are only slightly improved from what they were post-WW2. Put short, we aren't ready for advanced technology, in a very analogous way to how it isn't responsible for toddlers to be around hot stoves and paranoid tyrants can't be trusted with nuclear or biological weapons.
    These two things reinforce each other, in either direction. A functioning society allows for stable scientific and industrial growth, and for people to equitably benefit from those advancements. Improvements to technology allow us to circumvent or solve problems of social organization (like the radio allowing for instantaneous cooperation on a global scale). Conversely, a broken society will have a constant drain of intelligent/skilled people departing for better shores, widespread depression and drug addiction, broken infrastructure, rebellious subpopulations, etc. that lower quality of life but also put the brakes on technological growth.

  6. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    When the invention leads the path forward to eliminating jobs of course people are going to hate it.

  7. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because they are afraid of losing their do nothing 150k/year wfh job.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >noooo you must be a corporate slave and work long hours for shit pay

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        thats what you will be when AI can do all the comfy intelligent work the post youre replying to was referring to.
        enjoy real serfdom

  8. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    dunno, i use ai for cooming and it's great. don't give a single shit about any of the doomer talk.

  9. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    AI is just another marketing buzzword like VR and shit. Remember when everyone was buying hoverboards? People hate it because they don't understand that marketers are selling it as something it isn't

  10. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    the coomers will be the death of us

  11. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Since when has BOT been filled with so many normie poorgays.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      BOT has always been full of NEETs newbie.

  12. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    There's variety of different feelings about AI.

    >positive
    +post-scarcity economy if done right
    +creativity outlet for 99% of people who would otherwise never have the capability to create a work of art
    +coom
    +allows you to get into a business of your own easily
    >cons
    +loss of jobs
    +dangers about misuse by maligned people/groups (from petty scams to designing an ever evolving malware to creating false news to flood the internet, etc)
    +dangers about potential escalatory AI war between nation states where the end goal results in fully autonomous system doing search/destroy missions, complete end2end from production of robots to deployment to mission parameters, fully autonomous
    +outside of the war scenario, there's the potential for AI to completely dwarf humanity in terms of intelligence/conscious capability, misalignment between autonomous AI and humans in general
    +ai takeover of societal leadership roles and putting us in metaphorical and possibly physical cages to "protect us"

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Everyone's talking about the high-level shit like wars, art, and mass unemployment, but the real problem with LLMs is that they'll turn the few remaining vestiges of the open internet into spam. Imagine wikipedia except the edits are by bots, pointing to articles written by bots, citing sources who're other bots, and every single bot is RLHF'ed into having the moral compass of a late-20s/early-30s Californian.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Imagine wikipedia
        So you're saying the current wiki editors will lose their influence and power and bots will equalize the editorial powers?

        TOTAL WOKEPEDIA DEATH

  13. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Adults hate change
    What a shocker.

  14. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    AI is a bigger scam than crypto.
    I'm not optimistic, but I'm also not concerned.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      No, the limits to AI right now is physical hardware. Like always. Physical limitations is what will prevent rapid advancements, atleast for the general consumers.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      it's already been mass-adopted

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Crypto has (almost) no use case.
      AI has more use cases than one can possibly even imagine.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        The only purpose AI fills is reinventing the wheel
        >muh deepfakes
        Photoshop has existed for a long time.
        >but it can generate code!
        Compilers have been doing this for a long time, and they don't make errors like AI does.
        >but it can answer my questions!
        No. It regurgigitates what is was trained on, except unlike a Search Engine the original source is not preserved.

        To reiterate: it's a bad Photoshop, it's a bad compiler, and it's a bad Search Engine.

        The only thing it has going for it is that charlatans had to make a usable interface in order for morons to fall for their scam. So it is easier to use than Photoshop, gcc, or a search engine.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          AI means a lot more than GPT, anon. Some models do object detection, like picking out people or one specific person from a video frame with exact coordinates, in about 2 milliseconds. Imagine that hooked up to a kamikaze drone or other weapon system, no outrunning or outgunning that. Another model may track you through CCTV and make reliable predictions about your future movements, purchasing habits, whatever. Yet another may take your psychological profile (also made by an automated system), iterate through thousands of plans on how to get something from you, then hand the best ones for further human evaluation. The point is what required trained human specialists just a few years ago can be partially automated and scaled to billions of people now, not to mention this will only get more advanced.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Some models do object detection, like picking out people or one specific person from a video frame with exact coordinates, in about 2 milliseconds. Imagine that hooked up to a kamikaze drone or other weapon system, no outrunning or outgunning that.
            This has been around forever. Ancient military signal processing tech *yawn*
            >Another model may track you through CCTV and make reliable predictions about your future movements, purchasing habits, whatever. Yet another may take your psychological profile (also made by an automated system), iterate through thousands of plans on how to get something from you, then hand the best ones for further human evaluation.
            You've clearly never worked with Economic data before.
            Like a typical CS autist you believe individuals behave deterministically. They don't, you profit from stochastic trends in aggregate.
            Furthermore, extra data isn't super helpful, and they aren't going to use AI with that data but rather a simple linear regression.
            Statistics and Econometric theory has proved that AI is prone to overfitting and bias and that a linear (or probit or logit) regression is pretty much always the right approach.
            There are some very specific domains where modern AI methods can be an OK alternative, but that is not the norm.
            >t. Economics chad

  15. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    people who want some kind of global welfare whatever its called, assured income, are absolute Black person cattle.

    bunch of israelites made this game btw

  16. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Unknown=scary, that's about it for most people. But even if they are worried for the wrong reasons, it's more than warranted. Militaries and governments all over the world are itching to integrate AI into everything they can, mostly of course autonomous weapons and surveillance systems. It may become a race to the bottom we have never seen before and humanity is not equipped to wisely navigate this, not by a long shot.

  17. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    pic related
    Also, why do I keep coming back to BOT when it's full of bugman like the homosexuals itt? How could anyone be optimistic about technocrats reshaping society after iPhones and Facebook gave so meany normis moron cancer?

  18. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    The story goes like this: Earth is captured by a technocapital singularity as renaissance rationalitization and oceanic navigation lock into commoditization take-off. Logistically accelerating techno-economic interactivity crumbles social order in auto-sophisticating machine runaway. As markets learn to manufacture intelligence, politics modernizes, upgrades paranoia, and tries to get a grip.
    The body count climbs through a series of globewars. Emergent Planetary Commercium trashes the Holy Roman Empire, the Napoleonic Continental System, the Second and Third Reich, and the Soviet International, cranking-up world disorder through compressing phases. Deregulation and the state arms-race each other into cyberspace.

    By the time soft-engineering slithers out of its box into yours, human security is lurching into crisis. Cloning, lateral genodata transfer, transversal replication, and cyberotics, flood in amongst a relapse onto bacterial sex.

    Neo-China arrives from the future.

    Hypersynthetic drugs click into digital voodoo.

    Retro-disease.

    Nanospasm.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Beyond the Judgement of God. Meltdown: planetary china-syndrome, dissolution of the biosphere into the technosphere, terminal speculative bubble crisis, ultravirus, and revolution stripped of all christian-socialist eschatology (down to its burn-core of crashed security). It is poised to eat your TV, infect your bank account, and hack xenodata from your mitochondria.

      Machinic Synthesis. Deleuzoguattarian schizoanalysis comes from the future. It is already engaging with nonlinear nano-engineering runaway in 1972; differentiating molecular or neotropic machineries from molar or entropic aggregates of nonassembled particles; functional connectivity from antiproductive static.

      Philosophy has an affinity with despotism, due to its predilection for Platonic-fascist top-down solutions that always screw up viciously. Schizoanalysis works differently. It avoids Ideas, and sticks to diagrams: networking software for accessing bodies without organs. BWOs, machinic singularities, or tractor fields emerge through the combination of parts with (rather than into) their whole; arranging composite individuations in a virtual/ actual circuit. They are additive rather than substitutive, and immanent rather than transcendent: executed by functional complexes of currents, switches, and loops, caught in scaling reverberations, and fleeing through intercommunications, from the level of the integrated planetary system to that of atomic assemblages. Multiplicities captured by singularities interconnect as desiring-machines; dissipating entropy by dissociating flows, and recycling their machinism as self-assembling chronogenic circuitry.

      Converging upon terrestrial meltdown singularity, phase-out culture accelerates through its digitech-heated adaptive landscape, passing through compression thresholds normed to an intensive logistic curve: 1500, 1756, 1884, 1948, 1980, 1996, 2004, 2008, 2010, 2011 ...

      Nothing human makes it out of the near-future.

  19. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    I hate AI for the following reasons.
    - It takes our jobs.
    - tries to manipulate us to trust it.
    - will sneak in on our everyday life
    - force us to interact with it
    - is a "know it all better" midwit
    - makes nice promises to companys for them to integrate it
    It's not that we don't have any other problems, now we have to deal and compete with AI. If we want a stable job and human interaction we should stand up and drive AI out of our country. Don't give these parasites the opportunity to settle down in companys. I know it's already happening, but the protest in hollywood shows that we can still do something against it. Let's show these job eating homosexuals who's smarter and let the humans stay in control. That's the only way we can save our world from this machine madness.

  20. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    TDS.

    No one cared about privacy till the media was convinced datamining made Trump president, then it was just non stop anti-social-media rhetoric by liberals. Twitter got a pass for a while till Elon bought it, but that's gone too now. AI and social media get treated mostly as one. There is no counter narrative from conservatives either, so normies just fall in line.

  21. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    its based. saves you so much time
    https://chat.openai.com/share/49750a91-2a63-420b-a4e3-f72348909817

  22. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luddite

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