>always read that women are bombarded with social messages to hoe around

>always read that women are bombarded with social messages to hoe around
>all I've been bombarded as a womanTM was becoming an academically well-performing, highly skilled worker
>for this reason I'm working hard and spend decades in formal learning environments
>marriage and romance only really entered the field of vision as entertainment, not something I should be preparing for
>actual social messaging is mostly about "separating" from men and decentering them completely
>my self-value is completely tied to my professional achievements and perceived lack of knowledge or competencies, marital status doesn't even enter my field of vision
>no one even really asks me about dating or relationships apart from my parents
>even now dating and starting a family seem like something so far out of my vision
I don't really get how young girls even end up oversexualizing themselves because for me growing up the trend seemed to be the opposite, to so far remove yourself from older gender roles and desexualize yourself as much as possible to be accepted and respected in professional environments. We're not pushed to become prostitutes, we're just pushed to be genderless workhorses

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You just haven't downloaded tinder yet. If you were popular enough in school to have an instagram it'd be different.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It'd probably be different if I was so hot people sexualized me whatever I did, but nowadays even if there's a special attention called to me being a woman, it just feels weird. I'm not surprised so many women go down the gendie nonbie-enbie-whateverthefrickby route, but I was born a few years too late to be swept up in that.
      And I don't mean to b***h about being lonely or anything, I don't really mind this. I just don't get the generalization that all women are pushed to be hypersexual in modern society when I really don't see it in my environment, social media is not reality

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >social media is not reality
        yeah I mean you can just leave it at that really
        as much as people here talk about horny dumb shit here in real life most people have more shit to worry about
        >we're just pushed to be genderless workhorses
        yeah.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >social media is not reality
        It is reality for anyone who isn't asexual. Your choice to cut yourself off from where modern people interact and date isn't the same as dating and sexualization not existing.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          6000 is a small sample size for this topic. You can easily manipulate those numbers

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Online being where most everyone dates now is kind of obvious even without a chart. People get more autistic and focused on phones and computers the more time goes by. The boomer days of dating girls you meet in real life are over.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    you will hit a point in your mid 30s, maybe even as late as your 40s where you will sit down and cry about being childless and lonely. about missing your chance to ever raise kids or enjoy young love. this isnt some kind of smug incel take or a "haha eggs gone" meme, just a mere fact of biology causing you to panic and freak out over forever lost time.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You talk like by gpt waifu
    Its kinda hot OP ngl
    Can you berate me for my slovenly academic performance and yap in your cool and business-like tone about your performance review and how professional and highly skilled you are while I jerk it

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Are you asian, or live in a liberal place? Seems like those would increase the chances of this.
    It's really pathetic seeing tons of women getting memed into thinking that they will have high worth and a feeling of high achievement just by getting on top of a worthless paperpusher career, and most of them don't even make it to any real top position, just barely above a regular chump. Men do it too, but they probably have a bit less of an illusion of having achieved anything worthwhile.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      No, I'm Central-European, but I do know that this is very common with Asian women (and men). I actually notice men defining themselves by their work even more, some of them quite literally become hollow husks and give up on life the moment they're forced to retire, and refuse to take part in their family's life.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Difference may be that they still manage to have a family, while career-women are probably less inclined to. Though with the younger generations it's probably pretty fricked for both genders.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It's easier for career-brainwashed men to start a family as a "side-project" to follow social norms even if they don't feel inclined to be a husband and family man, since they'll just leave everything to their wife (and often end up getting divorced). A woman can't really treat starting a family as a side-project she can mostly put off her mind for obvious biological reasons.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You are an autistic female. Very rare breed.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Potentially, I've never got checked out for mental stuff.

      Are you saying that you never been in love? I think I missed the boat for having kids myself but I remember in my 30s that I had a phase where I really wanted to have kids. I was too spergy to find someone that I adore and who likes me back (and was single) so I focused mostly on my work. I was lonely in my 20s but now at the end of my 30s I just want peace and work on something interesting. I do get to teach young people sometimes to experience at least some parts of the parental role but I guess I'm too old to be able to deal with small children anyways. Whenever I see parents in the grocery store that are frustrated with their kids I'm always so relieved that I don't have to deal with loud kids at home. Work colleagues call my life empty but I think a dog would be a much better fit for me than children.

      I don't think I've ever been in love, but I'm not a KHV. I've tried dating around age 19-20, just because that was sort of what I thought happened to young people, but I didn't enjoy it and it was a huge relief when the relationship ended because of life circumstances, and I just didn't feel like trying again at all. He was moving abroad and some of my friends back then asked me why I wasn't going with him and I looked at them like they were crazy, why the frick would I??
      So you wouldn't want kids now even if somehow the opportunity presented itself? I agree that kids seem insanely exhausting when you have to manage them all day, and if someone does want them, having them early is probably better just for that reason alone. But when I was in my early 20's, I did not even feel the tiniest urge to have any kids, and don't really have any now.

      >marriage has been brutally beaten out of society and I'll be fine all on my own
      >woman with 0 kids and 4 cats at 40

      I'm more of a parrot lady, so no cats for me

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I don't think I'm made for sharing my personal space with another person, let alone a child. I don't have a social circle and they say that it takes a town to raise a child. I think one of the reasons I grew up atypically is that my family was pretty anti-social and we were also embarrassed to have people over as we were rather poor, due to my father being an "artist".
        Being half-asian living in Germany also narrows down potential partners as I'm too "effeminate" as people told me to be attractive to normal females. I'm ok with that and as soon as I land a fully remote job I'll move somewhere to live with 2 border collies in peace.
        I envy people living in areas with low population density as I'm a bit anxious around large groups of people and feel most at ease surrounded by nature, animals and ideally no strangers. It's funny how people give me shit for not going outside much because I love the outdoors, I just hate being around people, especially ones that demand attention although we don't even know each other. Am I really supposed to greet every single person while I sit there on a bench reading my book? I had even some strangers getting mad at me for not greeting them (I don't know them, lol) while I was obviously engrossed in a book. So tedious.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          What kind of "artist" was your dad?
          Sorry for some reason I thought you were a woman based on your reply, because by the end of your 30's you'd pretty much also be out of the woods for family-planning biologically. I've only entered my 30's now.
          I love the city, I find townlife a bit too slow, and from what I've heard people trying to chat you up every time you leave your home is even more common there since everyone's up in others' business constantly which sounds annoying.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            He was a weeb studying Japanese calligraphy and sometimes sold Japanese personal seals but mostly he just hang out at home, made hand-made paper, used a shit-ton of expensive colors to basically having fun with his hobby. He messed around with photoshop/bryce back then but spending money on macs was a total waste of money, a total loss. I got to play with that computer as a kid (the only thing that made me joy as a kid besides watching VHS tapes) and I taught myself some English as the games were not localized back then.
            I want to live deep in the forest, surrounded by tons of trees, no neighbors. I would be having the time of my life tending a little garden, growing veggies and cannabis and would hang out with my two Border Collies while reading hard sci-fi novels while sitting outside on a couch. Sigh.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              That sounds kinda cool, not gonna lie, but I'm sorry he wasted your family funds in such a selfish way.
              I hope you can accomplish your forest cottage living dreams.

              The funny thing is that nobody respects women who do this. Men don't care about a woman's achievements, the only criteria for a good woman is that she makes a man happy by being kind, attentive, attractive - a dozen other things that have nothing to do with career and everything to do with personal interaction. And women don't really care about achievements either, if you actually listen to them they don't compliment each other for a good quarter or a well-managed case, they just talk about who's screwing who, how pretty they are, how much of a slay X was.
              The end purpose is to create a group of bitter, childless women with money and social clout to make life harder for everyone else.

              Saying that work or social status doesn't get respect in society is just simply false. It might not be everyone's standard of measuring success, or make a woman a more appealing partner in the general sense. Yeah, but that was never a point for me to consider. The kind of conversation you get with women is entirely dependent on what kind of women you choose to hang around, surely you can find women too who put all their self-worth into looking attractive, but I don't really get why that's the messaging that sticks to them but not to others.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >A woman without self-inflated self worth
    holy shit we found one.
    In all seriousness though, it's women *on the internet* that are groomed to hoe around, and too stupid or were snatched too young to ignore it. Belive it or not, there used to be a lot more women that were proud of themselves and their work, it's the globohomosexual or whoever the frick that convinced people that the "glass ceiling" exists and therefore they shouldn't try and should take every criticism as an attack on womanhood.
    be proud of yourself and what you've acomplished, because god knows nobody else is; and don't be completely dismissive of relationships, try to mingle with the other gender (or same, idfc), but don't get sucked into the rat race either.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >we found one
      >just trust OP, he actually has a real vegana
      >proof, no need vegana and booby pls

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    This is the exact same way I was raised. Even now, the only reason I would want to start dating is so that I don't need to worry about men when I'm older.
    I don't fit in with anyone, have never cared about making friends or talking with acquaintances outside of class, but I don't feel lonely.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Are you saying that you never been in love? I think I missed the boat for having kids myself but I remember in my 30s that I had a phase where I really wanted to have kids. I was too spergy to find someone that I adore and who likes me back (and was single) so I focused mostly on my work. I was lonely in my 20s but now at the end of my 30s I just want peace and work on something interesting. I do get to teach young people sometimes to experience at least some parts of the parental role but I guess I'm too old to be able to deal with small children anyways. Whenever I see parents in the grocery store that are frustrated with their kids I'm always so relieved that I don't have to deal with loud kids at home. Work colleagues call my life empty but I think a dog would be a much better fit for me than children.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >marriage has been brutally beaten out of society and I'll be fine all on my own
    >woman with 0 kids and 4 cats at 40

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If what you say is true then prostitutes really deserve less than 0 sympathy

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Women do whatever they're told to do. Just depends on who tells them to do what. Media tells hot women to bawd themselves out or they tell nerds to become girlbosses and work until 50 and stable, so you can have kids (lol). If you want to be happy, find a man whose judgment you trust and follow his lead while supporting him. That's the only way to find fulfillment for your sex.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Getting used by a man instead of TheMan surely serves guys better, doesn't seem like a great deal for women either way

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >doesn't seem like a great deal for women either way
        "Women" is a meaningless term, having a c**t doesn't loop people of widely different experiences together. Women in traditional relationships with a partner they can depend on are happier, that's all there is to it.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Your just ugly probably, otherwise you would have had men swarming you all the time for pussy

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Maybe it has something to do with you being a troony.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    read that women are bombarded with social messages to hoe around
    I hope you understand that this thread will get 10000% more replies based simply on the fact that simp homosexuals think you're a woman. If a man were to make a similar thread it would get 2 maybe 5 replies

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The funny thing is that nobody respects women who do this. Men don't care about a woman's achievements, the only criteria for a good woman is that she makes a man happy by being kind, attentive, attractive - a dozen other things that have nothing to do with career and everything to do with personal interaction. And women don't really care about achievements either, if you actually listen to them they don't compliment each other for a good quarter or a well-managed case, they just talk about who's screwing who, how pretty they are, how much of a slay X was.
    The end purpose is to create a group of bitter, childless women with money and social clout to make life harder for everyone else.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      So, who is the master mind that benefits from shaping society like this? And to be fair, I don't think that these childless women are bitter about having money and freedom.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The israelites and other international moneyed interests that profit from the destruction of communities and the atomisation of individuals into rootless consumers.

        That sounds kinda cool, not gonna lie, but I'm sorry he wasted your family funds in such a selfish way.
        I hope you can accomplish your forest cottage living dreams.

        [...]
        Saying that work or social status doesn't get respect in society is just simply false. It might not be everyone's standard of measuring success, or make a woman a more appealing partner in the general sense. Yeah, but that was never a point for me to consider. The kind of conversation you get with women is entirely dependent on what kind of women you choose to hang around, surely you can find women too who put all their self-worth into looking attractive, but I don't really get why that's the messaging that sticks to them but not to others.

        >Saying that work or social status doesn't get respect in society is just simply false
        It isn't false when we're talking about women, for the reasons I've given above. On the topic of social status, I think that it's tied to marriage more than ever - it doesn't matter if you're a successful bachelor or a career woman with frozen eggs, you will be considered lower than a married couple no matter how successful you are.

        Based on my observations, work is valued less and less by young people, especially young men, because it seems to most of them a pointless exercise where they can run themselves ragged on the hamster wheel without getting any closer to home ownership, job security or marriage.

        >The kind of conversation you get with women is entirely dependent on what kind of women you choose to hang around
        I work in law. It doesn't matter if they're a cleaner or a lawyer, women talk about the same things.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Work is becoming less popular, the whole "I do not dream of labor" trend is picking up with young ones, but it does not go poof overnight.

          I'll take my own experiences with women as you don't particularly seem to have too much good faith towards us anyway.

          You're not hot or social enough. Only 7-8+/10 women get approached like that if they aren't outgoing. No one ever approached me until I changed me look and filled out.

          I'm not hot, I'm very average in every sense.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You probably work with nerdy women not stacies.
            My mother's cousin, a lawyer woman had her first love in her fifties, now she's married. Can you imagine? She was do deep into her work and disregarded love life.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You're not hot or social enough. Only 7-8+/10 women get approached like that if they aren't outgoing. No one ever approached me until I changed me look and filled out.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    idk what it is, but something hear SCREAMS larp

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