Perhaps they're feeling threatened that they too could become unemployed like this and are pre-emptively trying to push back the inevitable.
Not all governments are advanced enough to support the onemployed. The concept of not dying due to not working is fairly novel, and has existed in the nordic countries for merely decades.
>that they too could become unemployed like this
Twitter trannies are already unemployed. That's not it. It's instead because the npc programming was updated by big corporations through the guise of influencers and DEI departments at HR.
All well and good but who promised you can pick one thing and do it forever and ever and never have to go back to school or train to do something else? Is it a good thing we can offer this privilege to people? Train to become a guinnea pig whisperer, and then just relax as the money comes in, as you can't possibly get full time employment whispering to guinnea pigs.
Established ai companies want to ban all AI that isn't theirs and are using their AI to shill how bad AI is for normies. It has a twofold effect of people diminishing art for fun and also puts an argument out there for more control and regulation so only the bigger companies can play
I'm not paying for your drawings though, all entertainment should be free.
It's just virtue signaling + smugness, nothing really to do with big corporate blackouts or conspiracies or whatever.
They all want to act like they're so in favor of the poor artists getting replaced by a big soulless machine that plagiarised them.
Also IMO there's a lot of artsy smugness in that they want to say they only care about the effort and the human soul and human art is so superior which honestly just feels like they want to flex and show how refined and unique their tastes are(they're on twitter lmao who are they fooling).
It's the two best things for twitter, virtue signaling and acting unique.
Who profits off of this push against AI art? Twitter trannies are talking about it like it's literally Hitler, and not all of them are artists.
Also I think one of the worst examples of this is there's this artist called maijintheartist who was was bleeding followers for months and months and months... and then he started posting 2 more weeks conspiracy theories about AI and how it's going to get banned soon(tm) and his follower count went to the moon
I am.
I'm already fricking SICK of coomers generating 1000x stable diffusions a minute with the same fricking faces and same fricking generic prompts.
You were mocking the "globohomosexual goyslop" before, but you literally became the mass produced goyslop you made so much fun of before.
Artists are influential. They can brainwash the masses to have a knee-jerk reaction in their favor in a way some truck driver or service worker being similarly threatened cannot, especially when the public has already been primed with a superstitious idealization of artistic creation as more than the result of an initial brain architecture + deterministic environmental parameters and challenging that is to shake the mythology of free will and self-determination to its core.
People that want to make quality products or games or shows but don't have the money to hire artists or animators, or the time to make stuff.
Just look at something like Anime Rock Paper Scissors by corridor crew, that might not have existed if it weren't for AI art, or they could have spent a year on it and not made anything else in its place.
>Just look at something like Anime Rock Paper Scissors by corridor crew, that might not have existed if it weren't for AI art, or they could have spent a year on it and not made anything else in its place
Good. If it can be made with little effort and in such a short period it means it's fastfood trash.
Btw that short is frankly shit
Basically any creative, when you think about it. Cuts outs out a whole team's worth on large projects.
I suppose if your art is good, people will still commission for that sentimental value or genuine appreciation of human skill.
people have always had artist and doctors in a pedestal, and there has always been pushback to technology by lower forms of intelligence.
add to it that artist can easily influence this people minds on twitter with this comics.
many of them call it plagiarism, say it sucks and that it only has one artstyle when they have never used it AI and dont know that it can do any artstyle...
Journalists (ie opinion columnists) are facing redundancy at the hands of AI just like artists are. If the average anon can generate fake "stunning and brave" op eds that poe's law a reader until sneed shows up or everyone does the dinosaur etc, then you can bet AI can do it too.
Literally no accelerationist is against AI art. They also aren't the ones talking about muh sustainable development or whatever. That's like, tautologically nonsense. Do you have any idea what you are talking about? What do you think accelerationism means? Genuinely bewildering post.
Have you considered that normal people are just sick of the garbage "art" that gets spammed by people who can't do basic QC or redrawing to fix flaws that are extremely jarring and impossible not to focus on once you notice them? AI "art" is only enjoyable if you've over consumed so much digital media through endless scrolling for so long that you've ended up like the guy in the movie Lawnmower Man who can't sit through more than 5 seconds of a song before skipping to the next one so that he can consume "more" and insists that sitting down and reading a book is obsolete due to the amount of time it takes.
It's simply [Current Thing]. Honestly a lot better than Ukraine or Covid. At least the people sperging out about "AI" aren't affecting my everyday life.
The so-called "photo camera" is a device of the lazy and creatively bankrupt. It requires so little understanding of aesthetics that a based troglodyte can operate it. It lessens the value of my pure and thought out stickfigures by enabling mass production of a lower quality product. Destroy all photocameras so people will pay more for my doodles!
>They don't learn to draw from the void, they basically merge together what they saw in other artists
And nature. Don't forget that. Both AI and artists learn from nature as well. Just thought you should specify that as well in the future because many people won't be smart enough that learning from pictures = learning from nature, so it might save you a few (you)s here and there.
who cares
Do artists really need to step up their game seriously to compete with AI?
the only artists threatened are ones doing shitty porn commissions
they will be replaced by da big robot brain inshallah
I don't know much about AI creation images services like Midjourney or things like that.
That said, I'd like some clarifications:
it's some days that I see circulatina screenshot of some twitter, which is gaining consense and approvation, that it's basically saying that AI art is getting worse because AI services is continuously training their models using the content they are generating as training material.
How much truth there is in that?
The brain ENTIRELY functions on the recognition of patterns while learning. We have inbuilt learning mechanisms that recognize and emulate what we see others do and systems that make sense to us. Ask any actual artist, musician, or fashion oriented person, and they'll admit that for a long time they had a goal of copying someone else, that they failed to do it, but that they had an underlying system of cultivated taste and pattern recognition they could apply to what they do to make it their own and a unique amalgamation of the traits of other creators in their field within their personal limits as a creator themselves. That's basically how every artist or creator creates what they do. A mesh of skill acquired pattern recognition, the creation of an underlying system to apply it towards, and a feed of "inspiration" that they soft copy into their own work.
All of these components are parts of how AI media work. Inspiration(input), pattern recognition(filtering "inspiration"), systemic processes to generate media(algorithms to mix "inspiration" with a systemic underlying approach).
AI just emulates the way the brain actually does these things, but it contrasts with the societal interpretation that it's all cweatvwitie :3 when creativity is just high noise systemic plagiarism.
That's real cool and all bro, but not everyone exclusively goes to the movies for Studio Ghibli, plays Elden Ring for 800 hours, and only opens the TV for The Sopranos and Breaking Bad, not everything has to be the highest of high quality and super expensive for you to watch it and if it does, you're going to miss out on a lot of cool stuff.
If all you want is endless perfectly polished marvel movies, have fun.
In all my years on the internet never have I seen such a complete meltdown as I have about AI art. For a few months /ic/ was the saddest board on this god forsaken website. I distinctly remember going there to rile people up about AI and leaving feeling like a bad person, because those people seemed like they were genuinely sad and like they were trying to cope with their world imploding around them.
wait no I only just realized after waking up I mean to post
https://i.imgur.com/YXQnZix.jpg
That's real cool and all bro, but not everyone exclusively goes to the movies for Studio Ghibli, plays Elden Ring for 800 hours, and only opens the TV for The Sopranos and Breaking Bad, not everything has to be the highest of high quality and super expensive for you to watch it and if it does, you're going to miss out on a lot of cool stuff.
If all you want is endless perfectly polished marvel movies, have fun.
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>Just look at something like Anime Rock Paper Scissors by corridor crew, that might not have existed if it weren't for AI art, or they could have spent a year on it and not made anything else in its place
Good. If it can be made with little effort and in such a short period it means it's fastfood trash.
Btw that short is frankly shit
> rile people up
bullshit.
you're one of those insufferable trolls who kept spamming daily AI threads for no reason other than to make crabs and begs lose their shit and also start infesting the rest of the board with even more doomposting.
literally go have a nice day
>bullshit.
What you described is riling people up, kek. Although my methods are a bit more subtle in that I don't create any threads or post any AI art, I just merely go into AI threads and debunk misconceptions. The truth already makes them mald better than anything I could fabricate myself.
>literally go have a nice day
And we aren't even on /ic/ kek
training AI to draw is literally like training a kid how to draw using images as reference.
but when a human does it is called inspiration and when ai does, is called plagiarism....
en fin la hypotenusa
So does literally everything else. Plagiarism as a concept is moronic. If we took it seriously 1000 years ago everyone today would be paying royalties to the owner of the English language every time they speak, listen, read or write.
>But without laws banning copying, X wouldn't be profitable!
Why should X be profitable? Why should laws that violate fundamental liberties be used to make otherwise unprofitable activities profitable? Buying food, shitting on it, then trying to resell it isn't profitable. Does that mean we should pass laws to force people to buy my second had shat on food? If it isn't profitable in a free society then it shouldn't be profitable, simple as. You are not entitled to profit if your enterprise violates the rights of others, and laws that prevent people humming songs in their head etc (the logical end point of copyright law) are absolutely violations of basic liberties. The solution to plagarism is to get a real job.
>artist runs it for 15ish minutes >15 minutes edit work >sell your edits to the generated art for a fraction of the time-cost and price to the buyer >everyone wins >this is somehow a bad thing
Proves paintpigs take away time from learning basic thinking skills to practice their "skill"
if one guy can do 3 peoples jobs, 2 jobs disappear and that guy does 3 peoples jobs for the pay of 1. artists are whiny b***hes, but this isnt good news either way.
im more concerned about what will happen to art in general. who the fricks going to spend years learning to draw when in a few years a program shits it out for you.
you think calarts and current slop you see in movies and animated shits bad? just wait. its gonna get worse. way worse. art class is going to be >lesson one: put down the pencil >lesson two: ask the computer. >
> if one guy can do 3 peoples jobs, 2 jobs disappear and that guy does 3 peoples jobs for the pay of 1
This is not true, and never has been. Since the beginning of civilization we've been inventing technology that allows one man to do the job of two, and far from the few Ancient Sumerian jobs being whittled down to nothing, increased productivity makes the entire world better off and actually generates new jobs. If one guy can do the jobs of two people, it makes enterprises that couldn't afford to hire two people, but that need two people, profitable. That means more jobs overall.
In 1863, Frederic Bastiat wrote an essay called "The Candlemaker's Petition" in protest of the trade-protectionist policies of the French government which mockingly called for the government to blot out the sun in order to create jobs for candlemakers and stimulate the economy. I suggest you, and other Luddites, give it a read.
Anon, do you think that millions of people are stuck struggling to make ends meet on low paying service sector jobs for no reason?
Wages have stagnated since 1997 and costs of living have only continued to rise.
Outsourcing is the prime culprit but technology definitely contributes to the problem.
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I'm not even that anon but computerization is probably the only thing that prevented most of the world's economies from just collapsing in on themselves like 15 years ago because they're unsustainable
Wages have stagnated since 1971 and you can thank Nixon for that. It's not the fault of technology, it's the fault of a literal homosexual (keynes) and morons trying to salvage his garbage economic system.
A few people quit at my work and haven't been replaced for a while now. We who are left have taken over their share of extra work with no pay raise. I'm thinking about quitting because it's simply too aggravating now.
Then do it? lol.
I had the same thing happen to me like 2 years ago. Quit without 2 weeks notice, they called begging me to stay but refused to give me a raise so I hung up and never answered their calls again. Started getting into crypto and made $600k in 2 years after taxes so I'm never looked back. Now I literally just sell AI genned NFTs (fully transparent that they're AI) when I'm bored.
They're holding you back, just work for yourself and get all the reward instead of cucking yourself for a fat cat to give you scraps.
That's got nothing to do with technology, though. Sounds like just a shitty boss. Elon did the same thing when he took over Twitter. The bottom line is that, because of factories, you don't need nearly as many people to produce goods, and the world economy hasn't imploded... And by the logic you're using, it'd improve the economy if you were to literally blot out the sun, because - think of all the extra demand it'd create for goods such as lightbulbs. Everyone stands to benefit from cheaper goods. That's not to say there's never a case for protectionism, but that it isn't a free action, people will suffer as a result of it. AI protectionism is much the same, if you decide to ban AI to create jobs you'll just be making the world and the economy worse off. People who blindly say "It'll take all the jobs!" are morons. Machines have been "taking all the jobs" for decades, literally since the 1850s. I'm sure it's for REAL this time now, though.
The labor market can be impacted in ways other than people simply becoming unemployed. Underemployment and wage stagnation are very real issues.
Not that Anon, btw, but I work for a huge company that manufactures medical supplies and they just recently axed and entire department and dumped their work on the rest of us. I now spend part of my day doing extra shit that was previously done by the people in that department. In addition to that some of our people, like truck drivers, are being replaced with contractors who get no benefits and significantly less pay than company drivers do.
Even if everyone from the department that was killed off finds new employment do you think that they're all going to find jobs that pay the same or more than their previous job?
i don't really fricking understand how all the twitter trannies and "commies" are now in the position of defending IP while simultaneously claiming that shit like property ownership is "theft". it makes literally 0 fricking sense to say that owning property is theft and that the idea of owning ideas isn't: ideas can come to anyone at any time, and can happen completely independently of one-another; you can't simultaneously start owning a physical object at the same time as someone else. they're literally defending the idea that owning a house is completely unreasonable but owning a thought is somehow completely reasonable. frick these people.
they are fricking morons to the highest degree.
shit, i don't think i ever fully conceptualized this. the more i think of it, the more it makes perfect sense. materialists, by abusing or ignoring logic for their own material gain are in a strange way acting logically consistent with their own belief system. thank you anon.
they only care about power. as long as they have power, they are happy. communism, socialism, abolishing property rights (your property, for they can take it), is all tools to elevate them to power.
artist: >probably 18-22 >lgbt >2000$ for breast and up commission because artists are so opressed >"i love drawing, but hate to start" >muh carpal tunnel >something something my cat died
aI: >draws
I seriously considered learning art techniques and how to draw just so I could improve my outputs. I didn't because I have too many things on my plate, but my point still stands.
The part that annoys me so much about the artgays seething about theft is that they learn to draw via theft in the exact same way. I don't get how it's any different. Basically all art is derivative because people copy other peoples art to learn style and technique before finding their own.and they're usually drawing copyrighted characters
Even if the final output didn't contain mutant hands and ears, it's still no better than a tracejob. But right now, it's even worse than a tracejob. And call me a paypiggy, I don't give a frick, but I'd rather commission something from a human artist.
Sure, sure. That's why they're getting sued for using copyrighted material without a license.
Who profits off of this push against AI art? Twitter trannies are talking about it like it's literally Hitler, and not all of them are artists.
Perhaps they're feeling threatened that they too could become unemployed like this and are pre-emptively trying to push back the inevitable.
Not all governments are advanced enough to support the onemployed. The concept of not dying due to not working is fairly novel, and has existed in the nordic countries for merely decades.
>that they too could become unemployed like this
Twitter trannies are already unemployed. That's not it. It's instead because the npc programming was updated by big corporations through the guise of influencers and DEI departments at HR.
You sound like a NEET yourself
All well and good but who promised you can pick one thing and do it forever and ever and never have to go back to school or train to do something else? Is it a good thing we can offer this privilege to people? Train to become a guinnea pig whisperer, and then just relax as the money comes in, as you can't possibly get full time employment whispering to guinnea pigs.
tsmt. furthermore, physics and chaos theory prove that every artist has plagiarized every work of art in his timelike past.
it's hivemind shit like the reddit blackout
Established ai companies want to ban all AI that isn't theirs and are using their AI to shill how bad AI is for normies. It has a twofold effect of people diminishing art for fun and also puts an argument out there for more control and regulation so only the bigger companies can play
I'm not paying for your drawings though, all entertainment should be free.
people who don't like the constant spam of dogshit
It's just virtue signaling + smugness, nothing really to do with big corporate blackouts or conspiracies or whatever.
They all want to act like they're so in favor of the poor artists getting replaced by a big soulless machine that plagiarised them.
Also IMO there's a lot of artsy smugness in that they want to say they only care about the effort and the human soul and human art is so superior which honestly just feels like they want to flex and show how refined and unique their tastes are(they're on twitter lmao who are they fooling).
It's the two best things for twitter, virtue signaling and acting unique.
Also I think one of the worst examples of this is there's this artist called maijintheartist who was was bleeding followers for months and months and months... and then he started posting 2 more weeks conspiracy theories about AI and how it's going to get banned soon(tm) and his follower count went to the moon
It's just perpetual butthurtness
Fear.
I am.
I'm already fricking SICK of coomers generating 1000x stable diffusions a minute with the same fricking faces and same fricking generic prompts.
You were mocking the "globohomosexual goyslop" before, but you literally became the mass produced goyslop you made so much fun of before.
Humans are mass produced, same face goys
Whats your fricking problem moron
Artists are influential. They can brainwash the masses to have a knee-jerk reaction in their favor in a way some truck driver or service worker being similarly threatened cannot, especially when the public has already been primed with a superstitious idealization of artistic creation as more than the result of an initial brain architecture + deterministic environmental parameters and challenging that is to shake the mythology of free will and self-determination to its core.
Who profits off of this push for AI art? Dirty pajeets are talking about it like it's literally God, and not all of them are artists.
People that want to make quality products or games or shows but don't have the money to hire artists or animators, or the time to make stuff.
Just look at something like Anime Rock Paper Scissors by corridor crew, that might not have existed if it weren't for AI art, or they could have spent a year on it and not made anything else in its place.
>Just look at something like Anime Rock Paper Scissors by corridor crew, that might not have existed if it weren't for AI art, or they could have spent a year on it and not made anything else in its place
Good. If it can be made with little effort and in such a short period it means it's fastfood trash.
Btw that short is frankly shit
Basically any creative, when you think about it. Cuts outs out a whole team's worth on large projects.
I suppose if your art is good, people will still commission for that sentimental value or genuine appreciation of human skill.
people have always had artist and doctors in a pedestal, and there has always been pushback to technology by lower forms of intelligence.
add to it that artist can easily influence this people minds on twitter with this comics.
many of them call it plagiarism, say it sucks and that it only has one artstyle when they have never used it AI and dont know that it can do any artstyle...
Journalists (ie opinion columnists) are facing redundancy at the hands of AI just like artists are. If the average anon can generate fake "stunning and brave" op eds that poe's law a reader until sneed shows up or everyone does the dinosaur etc, then you can bet AI can do it too.
Accelerationists and sustainable-worldists, they just want to accelerate forever and they love every second of it
Literally no accelerationist is against AI art. They also aren't the ones talking about muh sustainable development or whatever. That's like, tautologically nonsense. Do you have any idea what you are talking about? What do you think accelerationism means? Genuinely bewildering post.
twitter trannies think everything and everyone is literally hitler
Have you considered that normal people are just sick of the garbage "art" that gets spammed by people who can't do basic QC or redrawing to fix flaws that are extremely jarring and impossible not to focus on once you notice them? AI "art" is only enjoyable if you've over consumed so much digital media through endless scrolling for so long that you've ended up like the guy in the movie Lawnmower Man who can't sit through more than 5 seconds of a song before skipping to the next one so that he can consume "more" and insists that sitting down and reading a book is obsolete due to the amount of time it takes.
Adobe, they have the largest stock library and want to get all publicly crawled AI systems banned so they have a monopoly
Artists are doing their PR for free.
It's simply [Current Thing]. Honestly a lot better than Ukraine or Covid. At least the people sperging out about "AI" aren't affecting my everyday life.
Now they will know how the real Hitler felt, when his art was rejected.
The entire world runs on plagiarism, mate. Culture has stagnated.
plagiarism isnt real, it was invented by israelites to own ideas
Hey, at least it ain't a merBlack person.
The so-called "photo camera" is a device of the lazy and creatively bankrupt. It requires so little understanding of aesthetics that a based troglodyte can operate it. It lessens the value of my pure and thought out stickfigures by enabling mass production of a lower quality product. Destroy all photocameras so people will pay more for my doodles!
PS: my farts really do smell heavenly
wait till you hear about the printer
Art runs on plagiarism.
k.
idgi
Artists also run on palgiarism. They don't learn to draw from the void, they basically merge together what they saw in other artists
>They don't learn to draw from the void, they basically merge together what they saw in other artists
And nature. Don't forget that. Both AI and artists learn from nature as well. Just thought you should specify that as well in the future because many people won't be smart enough that learning from pictures = learning from nature, so it might save you a few (you)s here and there.
who cares
Do artists really need to step up their game seriously to compete with AI?
the only artists threatened are ones doing shitty porn commissions
they will be replaced by da big robot brain inshallah
What's wrong with plagiarism?
People whose ideas are few and far in between, value each one of those very highly.
Everything runs on plagiarism. Specially programmers
Tell me you don't understand AI without saying you don't understand AI
Before this AI nonsense all I kept seeing was so called artists plagiarize each other all over.
That image can't have been stolen because the real Ariel is black, bigot.
That's the point.
I refuse to believe that artist would make a subtle joke
I don't know much about AI creation images services like Midjourney or things like that.
That said, I'd like some clarifications:
it's some days that I see circulatina screenshot of some twitter, which is gaining consense and approvation, that it's basically saying that AI art is getting worse because AI services is continuously training their models using the content they are generating as training material.
How much truth there is in that?
The people parroting this are useless halfwits that parrot anything and everything told to them.
Why are you so lazy? Why can't you just READ for frick sake? Did your teachers in school not tell you how to research or something?
Those claims get debunked in that sane thread
https://twitter.com/KewkD/status/1671314324877627392?t=2fwJKpbeUtbXvC211x6AtQ&s=19
https://twitter.com/LordNyhilus/status/1671333706198405121?t=aV15Fyyb8yBqBQitZQ4tWQ&s=19
>Those claims get debunked
They were already debunked is people would manage to research by themselves.
Look at the likes on the tweet you quoted vs the sheer amount of likes the dude that created the tweet have.
They don't want the truth, just sweet lies.
its actually the opposite, newer ai models are trained on GOOD outputs from previous models
its literally just reinforcing good learning
Sure, let me generate some image, then you go and find the original author of my "plagiarism" so he can send me a C&D. Deal?
>steal
seething intensifies
at least AI knows ariel is post to be a white red head
plagiarism is fine when the real deal looks like this
Let me guess, OP is seething because someone used AI to make her white?
>AI art is literally stealing
>Fanart is ok tho
The brain ENTIRELY functions on the recognition of patterns while learning. We have inbuilt learning mechanisms that recognize and emulate what we see others do and systems that make sense to us. Ask any actual artist, musician, or fashion oriented person, and they'll admit that for a long time they had a goal of copying someone else, that they failed to do it, but that they had an underlying system of cultivated taste and pattern recognition they could apply to what they do to make it their own and a unique amalgamation of the traits of other creators in their field within their personal limits as a creator themselves. That's basically how every artist or creator creates what they do. A mesh of skill acquired pattern recognition, the creation of an underlying system to apply it towards, and a feed of "inspiration" that they soft copy into their own work.
All of these components are parts of how AI media work. Inspiration(input), pattern recognition(filtering "inspiration"), systemic processes to generate media(algorithms to mix "inspiration" with a systemic underlying approach).
AI just emulates the way the brain actually does these things, but it contrasts with the societal interpretation that it's all cweatvwitie :3 when creativity is just high noise systemic plagiarism.
Who was being plagiarized here?
stay mad
Holy shit is that donald rongan in Las Nevagas?
yes
The real reason for the Star Wars Defence Project
wtf is this real
Artist education runs on plagiarism.
art runs on plagiarism.
Real people made her black so it's a crapshoot as far as quality is concerned.
Shut up you mindless blobfish
>calling a woman beautiful and asking for her number is cause to stab him in a whiteknight rage
Whoever the artist is is a massive cuck
He's a troony, so this was literally just a fantasy/fetish of his that he projected onto the comic.
>"I totally got catcalled in the street randomly because I'm so hot! Men are just the worst am I right fellow girlfriends?"
What the frick are you morons on about? The pink thing in her bag is clearly the one being stabbed.
These comics are only 4 panels long.
The 5th panel is an edit. The original, which sticks to one consistent art style, ends with panel 4.
Hope that helps....
meanwhile in reality
if you post this they'll say the original deliberately bad pic is soul
>artstyle isn't consistent
This is even worse.
AI gens don't have an artstyle consistency problem. That's literally the thing they're best at.
and yet it is a massive workload to generate the same person, wearing the same clothing in two different positions, which still isn't perfect.
IP is gay
Might as well put the bait thread to use. What's the most unhinged words artists have typed on this topic, BOT?
That's real cool and all bro, but not everyone exclusively goes to the movies for Studio Ghibli, plays Elden Ring for 800 hours, and only opens the TV for The Sopranos and Breaking Bad, not everything has to be the highest of high quality and super expensive for you to watch it and if it does, you're going to miss out on a lot of cool stuff.
If all you want is endless perfectly polished marvel movies, have fun.
Jesus man...
In all my years on the internet never have I seen such a complete meltdown as I have about AI art. For a few months /ic/ was the saddest board on this god forsaken website. I distinctly remember going there to rile people up about AI and leaving feeling like a bad person, because those people seemed like they were genuinely sad and like they were trying to cope with their world imploding around them.
Brutal stuff.
wait no I only just realized after waking up I mean to post
in response to
sorry
> rile people up
bullshit.
you're one of those insufferable trolls who kept spamming daily AI threads for no reason other than to make crabs and begs lose their shit and also start infesting the rest of the board with even more doomposting.
literally go have a nice day
>bullshit.
What you described is riling people up, kek. Although my methods are a bit more subtle in that I don't create any threads or post any AI art, I just merely go into AI threads and debunk misconceptions. The truth already makes them mald better than anything I could fabricate myself.
>literally go have a nice day
And we aren't even on /ic/ kek
you're such a prankster anon.
Read my post again, the funniest part is that I don't even prank anyone and they still get mad.
Like you right now
you havent been on the internet very long, then
I would go as far as to say you werent even around for Gamergate
By your definition human beings run on plagiarism.
Universities are already banning students for AI use.
not really
its just has the capacity to examine a larger data space than a human artist, doing the same things to reproduce art they've seen
don't pretend people are magical beings
training AI to draw is literally like training a kid how to draw using images as reference.
but when a human does it is called inspiration and when ai does, is called plagiarism....
en fin la hypotenusa
So does literally everything else. Plagiarism as a concept is moronic. If we took it seriously 1000 years ago everyone today would be paying royalties to the owner of the English language every time they speak, listen, read or write.
>But without laws banning copying, X wouldn't be profitable!
Why should X be profitable? Why should laws that violate fundamental liberties be used to make otherwise unprofitable activities profitable? Buying food, shitting on it, then trying to resell it isn't profitable. Does that mean we should pass laws to force people to buy my second had shat on food? If it isn't profitable in a free society then it shouldn't be profitable, simple as. You are not entitled to profit if your enterprise violates the rights of others, and laws that prevent people humming songs in their head etc (the logical end point of copyright law) are absolutely violations of basic liberties. The solution to plagarism is to get a real job.
>artist runs it for 15ish minutes
>15 minutes edit work
>sell your edits to the generated art for a fraction of the time-cost and price to the buyer
>everyone wins
>this is somehow a bad thing
Proves paintpigs take away time from learning basic thinking skills to practice their "skill"
if one guy can do 3 peoples jobs, 2 jobs disappear and that guy does 3 peoples jobs for the pay of 1. artists are whiny b***hes, but this isnt good news either way.
im more concerned about what will happen to art in general. who the fricks going to spend years learning to draw when in a few years a program shits it out for you.
you think calarts and current slop you see in movies and animated shits bad? just wait. its gonna get worse. way worse. art class is going to be
>lesson one: put down the pencil
>lesson two: ask the computer.
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> if one guy can do 3 peoples jobs, 2 jobs disappear and that guy does 3 peoples jobs for the pay of 1
This is not true, and never has been. Since the beginning of civilization we've been inventing technology that allows one man to do the job of two, and far from the few Ancient Sumerian jobs being whittled down to nothing, increased productivity makes the entire world better off and actually generates new jobs. If one guy can do the jobs of two people, it makes enterprises that couldn't afford to hire two people, but that need two people, profitable. That means more jobs overall.
In 1863, Frederic Bastiat wrote an essay called "The Candlemaker's Petition" in protest of the trade-protectionist policies of the French government which mockingly called for the government to blot out the sun in order to create jobs for candlemakers and stimulate the economy. I suggest you, and other Luddites, give it a read.
Anon, do you think that millions of people are stuck struggling to make ends meet on low paying service sector jobs for no reason?
Wages have stagnated since 1997 and costs of living have only continued to rise.
Are you seriously going to try and say this is the fault of technology?
Outsourcing is the prime culprit but technology definitely contributes to the problem.
I'm not even that anon but computerization is probably the only thing that prevented most of the world's economies from just collapsing in on themselves like 15 years ago because they're unsustainable
Wages have stagnated since 1971 and you can thank Nixon for that. It's not the fault of technology, it's the fault of a literal homosexual (keynes) and morons trying to salvage his garbage economic system.
A few people quit at my work and haven't been replaced for a while now. We who are left have taken over their share of extra work with no pay raise. I'm thinking about quitting because it's simply too aggravating now.
Then do it? lol.
I had the same thing happen to me like 2 years ago. Quit without 2 weeks notice, they called begging me to stay but refused to give me a raise so I hung up and never answered their calls again. Started getting into crypto and made $600k in 2 years after taxes so I'm never looked back. Now I literally just sell AI genned NFTs (fully transparent that they're AI) when I'm bored.
They're holding you back, just work for yourself and get all the reward instead of cucking yourself for a fat cat to give you scraps.
That's got nothing to do with technology, though. Sounds like just a shitty boss. Elon did the same thing when he took over Twitter. The bottom line is that, because of factories, you don't need nearly as many people to produce goods, and the world economy hasn't imploded... And by the logic you're using, it'd improve the economy if you were to literally blot out the sun, because - think of all the extra demand it'd create for goods such as lightbulbs. Everyone stands to benefit from cheaper goods. That's not to say there's never a case for protectionism, but that it isn't a free action, people will suffer as a result of it. AI protectionism is much the same, if you decide to ban AI to create jobs you'll just be making the world and the economy worse off. People who blindly say "It'll take all the jobs!" are morons. Machines have been "taking all the jobs" for decades, literally since the 1850s. I'm sure it's for REAL this time now, though.
The labor market can be impacted in ways other than people simply becoming unemployed. Underemployment and wage stagnation are very real issues.
Not that Anon, btw, but I work for a huge company that manufactures medical supplies and they just recently axed and entire department and dumped their work on the rest of us. I now spend part of my day doing extra shit that was previously done by the people in that department. In addition to that some of our people, like truck drivers, are being replaced with contractors who get no benefits and significantly less pay than company drivers do.
Even if everyone from the department that was killed off finds new employment do you think that they're all going to find jobs that pay the same or more than their previous job?
https://wtfhappenedin1971.com/
Adeleine a cute! Adeleine a waifu!
Yikes, it drew Ariel as a red head. AI is a racism
Yes, leftists will ban it all in the near future, and there's nothing any of you can do about it 🙂 🙂 🙂
i don't really fricking understand how all the twitter trannies and "commies" are now in the position of defending IP while simultaneously claiming that shit like property ownership is "theft". it makes literally 0 fricking sense to say that owning property is theft and that the idea of owning ideas isn't: ideas can come to anyone at any time, and can happen completely independently of one-another; you can't simultaneously start owning a physical object at the same time as someone else. they're literally defending the idea that owning a house is completely unreasonable but owning a thought is somehow completely reasonable. frick these people.
they are fricking morons to the highest degree.
Logical consistency is immaterial. Followers of materialist ideologies see no reason to respect it.
shit, i don't think i ever fully conceptualized this. the more i think of it, the more it makes perfect sense. materialists, by abusing or ignoring logic for their own material gain are in a strange way acting logically consistent with their own belief system. thank you anon.
they only care about power. as long as they have power, they are happy. communism, socialism, abolishing property rights (your property, for they can take it), is all tools to elevate them to power.
>plagiarism
>stealing
the correct term is inspiration :^
Why do you guys love having this thread over and over?
All the posts in here are bots, aren't they?
It's a thread meant to foster your suspicion that bots are common.
Baiting is a passtime for some.
Even shitposters are being replaced by AI.
artist:
>probably 18-22
>lgbt
>2000$ for breast and up commission because artists are so opressed
>"i love drawing, but hate to start"
>muh carpal tunnel
>something something my cat died
aI:
>draws
I seriously considered learning art techniques and how to draw just so I could improve my outputs. I didn't because I have too many things on my plate, but my point still stands.
So does most of society, this argument is dead before it even takes a step. Go work retail or bus some tables partner, it's over for arties.
>t. doesn't understand how AI works
Good. And?
The part that annoys me so much about the artgays seething about theft is that they learn to draw via theft in the exact same way. I don't get how it's any different. Basically all art is derivative because people copy other peoples art to learn style and technique before finding their own.and they're usually drawing copyrighted characters
Even if the final output didn't contain mutant hands and ears, it's still no better than a tracejob. But right now, it's even worse than a tracejob. And call me a paypiggy, I don't give a frick, but I'd rather commission something from a human artist.
the "artists" that are seething didn't invent the techniques and motifs they use either
>pretending AI art looks bad
So much denial
sorry, not beautiful