It’s hilarious looking back at how techbros were sneering at blue collar workers telling them to learn to code. How does it feel now numbnuts?
AI replacing software engineers
It’s hilarious looking back at how techbros were sneering at blue collar workers telling them to learn to code. How does it feel now numbnuts?
>AI replacing software “engineers”
no its not, this is yet another trash thread by the marketing department
It's replacing the trash low level devs that would just be given the boring easy tasks with AI, and honestly I'm sure a lot of it could have been done a long time ago.
The real work is still being done by people.
I'm not a programmer.
I work in prepress.
>Just replace all entry level positions bro
The modern job market now requires both hyper-specialization and inhuman adaptability to changing technology in order to join the 5% of qualified candidates. This is not healthy or sustainable.
In trades I got paid for 2 years while I was learning. There are plenty of opportunities. You people are just too lazy and homosexual for them.
Did it all my early twenties. I don’t know how you can leave at 5am and come home around midnight and call it a win. It has its pros and cons though.
But very sus. Those bootstraps ? Gonna be AI. Burgers are going to be flipped, indeed, if not even flopped.
>The real work is still being done by people.
mf you program a cell phone app. programmers are some of the most self important people in the history of careers and specialties i swear to god.
if only you understood how fast the hardware actually is and just how shit windows and linux are, and how gay macos is
shut the frick up you god damn computer code wind talking troony.
Who's got more smoke up their own ass:
a programmer or high school teacher
>The real work is still being done by people.
Until they run out of real people that can do the work because everything below 20 years of experience senior dev is done by AI so no one's able to be trained.
Sure, the thing is, AI will make you work much cheaper.
>It's replacing
Is it? I know plenty of people doing menial jobs with AI now. The CEO of a company or even a manager is not going to sit with the AI to do shit. There's still people needed doing that stuff. They just do it faster and the unlucky ones may have to work less hours for less pay.
Lmao Black person, you can be replaced by a shittie drag and drop software
There is no "real" work, you're just playing Legos but with moron sentences instead of blocks
>codemonkeys coping
You will be flipping burgers under the orders of an AI manager within 5 years.
Checked but so will tradies, rajesh and paco just work for so much cheaper.
You’re missing one important detail, it’s a lot easier to compete with Mexicans than it is to compete against an AI that costs nothing. Also Trump will deport the wetbacks.
>ai costs nothing
Wut? Yes it does you moron. Just stop talking about shit you don't understand, if you haven't actually worked with ML beyond muh ChatGPT then you're a moron and don't know shit, so stop talking.
The electricity bill is negligible compared to paying some troony a $100k salary
You're a dumbshit and have no idea how pricing models work. Coding assistants are priced similar to Windows licensing for corps for example. Then you have other models you have to run, you still need software engineers to deal with all the pipelines, maintaining the system when it breaks, etc. It just gets rid of poo tier "coders" cause your whites and asians can just speed up their output with the assistant doing repetitive shit for you.
It's really not easier to compete with hispanics and poos once the boss gets that thirst for cheaper labor. I was in the trades 20 years and have been seeing this shit happen the whole time.
>Also Trump will deport the wetbacks.
Imagine believing this.
>Also Trump will deport the wetbacks.
You mean like he did in his first term?
Oh. Right. Less deportations than Obama.
I'll still be the expensive white guy you bring in at the end of the job to fix everything.
Burgers can flip themselves given the right code
Programmable meat, flips itself when it reaches 140F.
>AI manager
It'll be fake.
>noncoder fantasizing again
when code for coding is made ur obsolete
Whenever AI can replace software engineers all white collar jobs are gone.
CS is oversatured. Don't we need to spread the word that there are no jobs?
NO JOBS IN TECH
NO JOBS FOR PROGRAMMERS
NO JOBS IN IT
ITS OVER
DON'T DO IT
As a fellow programmer stuck on a shitty salary making less than my political science graduates friends, I will second this
THERE ARE NO MORE JOBS LEFT IN COMPUTER SCIENCE
RAJESH HAS TAKEN IT ALL
You need to work on your interviewing skills, anon.
non sequitur the Canadian job market is completely different from the American one
you have 3% unemployment rate, we have 6%
you restrict H1Bs, we are flooded with millions of pajeets, 1% of our population, every year
productivity and GDP per capita is rising in the USA, meanwhile in Canada gdp per capita has regressed to 2015 levels and productivity has actually fallen for the first time in post-ww2 history
don't listen to this homosexual
, you better form an union. But knowing tech guys you (we) wont.
it's over for video games too.
t. 19 years in the industry
this is just the latest cope of the no-code homosexuals and ~~*journalists*~~
/thread
>no code
>LITERALLY NO CODE GOYYY
I puke every single time I read this
Learn to mine coal, b***h
Nah I've got a software engineer friend and he says it's getting good.
"People" see these smart scammers pulling in 100s of millions if not billions of dollars and instead of seeing it for what it is they just point and laugh at a fake scenario
Even ChatGPT 4 is shit at coding. I remember everyone saying
>Nah dude you gotta get ChatGPT 4 if you want to program with it dude
And it STILL sucks
same, I'm using gpt 4.x with jetbrains ai assistant and it just sucks in almost every single task.
More jobs to fix the AI written shit code.
Based
A lot of companies implemented AI and realized its not for everyone and introduces more problem than it solves
>A lot of companies implemented AI and realized its not for everyone and introduces more problem than it solves
Kind of like pajeets, amiright?
Yea, the difference is AI improves rapidly.
Watching videos on Watson or AlphaGo illustrated this in excellent fashion.
The pro players watched it and said "meh it's nothing" till it approached their level and then they were "okay but i still beat it" to "oh shit oh frick it's over".
AI codes like a moron now. Better than most people i know who can code exactly 0, worse than a pajeet. In a year or two it will be pajeet level or better. Then in a year or two it will be *actual* Junior level etc. Constant improvements till the "oh shit" moment for whoever dunks on it.
That's why this criticism is pointless, it's all about the trajectory, not current capabilities.
Remember, AI draws better than most humans already. It took it less than two years to go from toddler scribbles to impressive realistic paintings.
GPT4 was released less than a year ago.
Let me repeat that.
It's not been a year since gpt4 was released. Imagine LLMs in 5 years, with better architectures, tens of hundreds of times less costly to run, and several times larger.
We're literally fricked.
Brainlet take.
>Imagine LLMs in 5 years
Same as today. They require VAST amounts of raw data to train, and there's an upper limit to their abilities as a result limited by how fast people can make data. On top of that, the people with the resources to train them lobotomize half that ability for political correctness.
LLMs and other transformer models are not AI, they are "predict the next thing" algorithms.
Imagine you took a dictionary and turned it into an etched crystal wherein you shine a light on one facet of it and it shows a shadow with a word and definition - transformer models are basically the same exact thing. They can do what they've been trained on, when that training has a lot of overlap they can seem impressive, but that's what they are: what they've already seen.
There has not been one single advance towards creativity, invention, or anything of the sort aside from aggregating what Humans have already done. As a result of that basic limitation Humans will always have value far exceeding LLMs.
The core issue we face is: Humans are also inefficient, or perhaps overly-efficient: we have to pick and choose what we focus on. As a result there is a LOT of low hanging fruit that just wasn't worth it to pay people to do, so all the money is tied up in grabbing at that with "AI" resulting in loss of talent and drive in people capable of pushing the Human corpus forward, by the time the people controlling the wealth entrusted to them by society as a whole realize that it will be too late: we'll have "AI" for every trivial little thing, causing people to be dumbed down even worse than what social media did, and that will be the apex of Human civilization.
We will never visit other stars, never time travel, never unlock new physics, new modes of reality. That will just be the end of the Human species and all our potential to leave a mark on the universe.
Once AI is integrated with VR it will be a bunch of drooling morons getting dopamine hits.
Complete nonsense
>LLMs and other transformer models are not AI, they are "predict the next thing" algorithms.
It is AI. It is a form of artificial intelligence.
Do you even know the definition of intelligence?
Bruh, I get paid to train freaking AI models.
You didn't give the definition though, and you conveniently evaded my main original argument.
I don't care if you're paid to train LLMs, you can still be a midwit (and it shows).
There's already a bunch of new architectures/improvements being proposed for LLMs. Transformers will soon be obsoleted/radically changed.
The point isn't to get more data, this argument by itself illustrates that you don't know what you're talking about.
The point is to get more from less data. To merely suggest that LLMs will be on the same level due to data gathering limitations reasons suggests you don't understand the relationship between intelligence and compression. Which makes sense since you don't understand intelligence (otherwise you'd have given the technical definition already to shut me up).
We need better compression and methods of meta-learning, not data.
>being proposed
>Same as today. They require VAST amounts of raw data to train, and there's an upper limit to their abilities as a result limited by how fast people can make data
You're missing the point. The amounts of training data and compute resources haven't increased by even close to the same amount that the models have advanced in the last 2 years. I can't predict the future, but it's naive to think that this kind of technology can't be improved further. Whether you call it "intelligence" or not is irrelevant if it functions the same way. There isn't anything special about "high-level" or "systems" design either. If anything that's an easier task for the AI because the syntactical requirements are fuzzier.
The pre-trained aspect of transformers is limiting, but I'm sure they're developing better memory and real-time learning mechanisms behind closed doors, as well as more sophisticated ways to prevent it from learning the "wrong" things. The end result of all this is that people won't get paid for being smart anymore. It sucks. I'm enjoying it while it lasts and hoping I'll have enough to frick off and be self sufficient once it's over. Once again, "learn a trade" is stupid advice since the supply is going to 10x and the demand will diminish once people don't have money to hire plumbers anymore and decide to fix their own toilets.
There was no missed point, I stated the point.
>The end result of all this is that people won't get paid for being smart anymore.
On the other hand, it will be easier than ever for the smart ones to leverage technology to make money.
The divide between smart and dumb people is gonna skyrocket.
But you made no actual sense (because you don't understand the underlying math, it seems).
>On the other hand, it will be easier than ever for the smart ones to leverage technology to make money.
That's the optimistic view, and I hope you're right. I have a hard time believing this tech won't get monopolized though. Imagine giant firms controlling their own state of the art models to scour the internet for any potential profit and snatch it up for themselves before we even get a chance with the plebian versions they provide publicly.
Maybe anti-trust laws could shut that shit down though, so who knows.
>But you made no actual sense
Then perhaps try re-reading, I'm not repeating myself on a text forum. Stop projecting your lack of understanding.
>Can't even give the definition of intelligence
>"LLMs aren't AI"
kek
I'm at least one SD over you in IQ.
You don't have to repeat yourself, you were wrong the first time.
Bruh, I'm 5.5 S.D. above average and I'm not wasting my time defining shit to you. It's about having some self-worth in not debasing myself before some moron who doesn't even understand the basic concepts being conveyed by engaging in your rhetorical game.
5.5 is at the level of Newton or Euler or Von Neumann. So yea right.
We're all seeing through it.
Maybe he meant 5.5 IQ points above average instead.
kek
I mean if he really had 182.5+ IQ his arguments wouldn't be so bad, his explanations would be well articulated etc. And in any case he wouldn't be here.
Given his language skills he's at 130 max (which makes him at least 1 sd below me). He doesn't seem to have aptitude for abstraction and obsession with abstract reasoning.
That comes with 140+ IQ usually.
If someone asked me for the definition of intelligence, i would pounce instantly and intently, to have a deep discussion.
Verdict: midwit
shit, even I can see ripples.
This
Actually spend 10 minutes with AI and you’re like shit, this is worse slop than $1 pajeets.
You are a shill. You post BBC threads and why do white people do x threads all day.
Boot camp homosexuals and pajeets are getting shoahed. Real people and processes will continue to build real systems while web devs learn to bag, but that won't stop incompetent bean counters to try and use this where it doesn't belong and some critical system fails because the people skilled enough to vet the AI code got laid off.
You can bet some moron fest of middling level companies will try to outsource their software again. It will collapse since poos don't really know what they're doing anyway and they'll frick up version control, pipelines and everything else, then lose the code somehow. It should be entertaining to watch again.
You mean government contractors, and yes absolutely they’ll use AI to inefficiently build some systems that will be vulnerable and leak tons of sensitive military and civilian data.
So let me get this straight, the "AI" got to pajeet level IN A YEAR, what in the world is in your head that prevents you from understanding that it will continue to improve dramatically?
>blue collar will be around long after everyone else is-ACK
>got to pajeet level IN A YEAR
That's not really an achievement.
>inventing brick laying robot to replace construction workers
Jokes on them we build our houses out of cardboard not brick. Hope they go bankrupt fricking idiots
>what in the world is in your head that prevents you from understanding that it will continue to improve dramatically?
People like you are exceedingly annoying. You don't understand how LLMs 'progress', so you can't identify the enormous Achilles heel that these models have. LLMs are dead ends, that are rapidly approaching the end of their ability to get better.
>Trained on existing data, most of which has already been scraped and accumulated.
>New data is being systematically poisoned to make it harder, if not impossible to use as training data.
>All of the rapid advances of "AI" were predicated on being able to steal enormous amounts of 'free' data from every website their homosexual scrapers could reach.
>Even in a world where data wasn't now being guarded from that free scraping, and where there aren't pending court cases that will make training AI on data require a license from the original data holder, you still run into the problem of new training data only comes into being when humans create it. If AI steals all the jobs, there are not going to be new posts on stack overflow for some gay bot to steal for improving itself.
It will just be bots stealing each other's bug riddled code, until all you get is dog shit.
>So let me get this straight, the "AI" got to pajeet level IN A YEAR, what in the world is in your head that prevents you from understanding that it will continue to improve dramatically?
"Pajeet level" was never a level worth obtaining. There are literally more competent monkeys they fight with daily in India in a war that's been raging for thousands of years with the monkeys winning.
Did you think this reply was clever because they don't have plumbing in Croatia so you mistook it for the most repetitive, robotic task ever? Protip Anon we're already 3d printing prefab houses over here in the states, this isn't the revolution you think it is, it's just a practical application of what Boston Dynamics was doing in 2005.
>AI Went from random word salad to writing code in just 5 years
>The thing went from nothing to something, that’s infinity% increase
>If we extrapolate that into the future, we will replace coders in 2 weeks
Improvement is not exponential or linear. It rises and then stagnates as we find the optimum
>AI not being able to do anything
>AI writing funny stuff that makes no sense
>AI translation
>AI writing blog posts
>AI writing entire books
>AI writing simple code with many mistakes
>AI copying voices of people via text to speech
>AI creating simple videos that look terrible
>AI writing more complex code with less mistakes
>AI creating 60 second clips that look very impressive
*You are here*
>AI creating entire movies and replacing film crews
>AI creating complex coding solutions and building apps from scratch with minimum human input
>AI creating complex coding solutions with no human input other than what we want it to code
>AI using other AI to improve itself indefinitely
>AI completely replacing all workers
Cope harder gays. It's always "two more weeks" with you lot, until the time is here and then you panic and call for mommy.
>AI writing more complex code with less mistakes
lol? Bullshit. Even the latest tech is useless for anything serious, you'll spend more time fixing the garbage that you could have spent just making it right to begin with. It's an electric pajeet.
>AI creating 60 second clips that look very impressive
You are a fricking moron if you think that's impressive. Did it spit out the models it used? No? It's just a 720p 60 second clip? Oh wow, how impressive, and what will you do with this uncanny valley video?
>AI creating entire movies and replacing film crews
Pure delusion.
You're a normie, a normie who has probably never done anything productive with technology in his entire life. You see the equivalent of a modern mechanical turk, and you became a soi jack, because you think this is your chance. You just need to wait a little while, and this miracle technology will allow you to do all the things that you never had the aptitude to do before.
You have no idea the limits of these models.
You won’t stop singularity, nor will you speed it up. But in the meantime people still need to eat and the world needs to work. Post-work problems are post work. Robotics have only recently started using neural network AI (everything from nip 2009 robots to factory robot claws and Boston Dynamics has been hand-coded preprogrammed movement) and from there they have advanced far enough to be soon deployed, so not even manual labour is safe. Yes, they cost a lot now, but that is because they are not mass produced since they don’t have economic use yet. So once AI removed most labour shortages and fixes the demographic crisis by replacing old workers, then remind us. Until then they are just toys with bright future.
>You won’t stop singularity
but we need to be prepared because singularity means hundreds if not thousands of new inventions that can eradicate mankind developing at once, super nukes, super viruses, fully autonomous robots
it will be a thousand different nuclear-level threats at once
>We
All you can do is tell people who work with these things to prepare, or just for people in power to prepare. You can’t prepare for singularity. It either ends good without your involvement, or it ends up bad and you get killed by it no matter how hard you prepare(does not matter if evil elites or rouge AI does the final decision).
>AI writing more complex code with less mistakes
As it is right now you have to know exactly what you want the output to be or you should be expecting trouble.
Not reading your schizo rant, anyways, certified plumbers will not be replaced before 2065 at the earliest in first-world countries
When will they replace women in relationships?
based
The seething replies say it all
Just wait till people start stringing them together to make agents and consciousness research begins and they'll be shitting bricks real fast.
I bet you the narrative will go from "the AI won't do shit ever" to "we can't let AI make decisions and do capitalism itself" overnight. Of course it will be too late by then.
What’s the last “job” required before under ownership that does nothing but have their name assigned to numbers that apparently are theirs?
Nation destroying fricks that couldn’t make a decent decision if it was shoved into their brain stem. You’re not making the right argument.
It's so fricking over. What the frick do I do now. Jerk off horses? Wall mart greeter? Picking beans?
Probably the horses and beans, I have a feeling we will be seeing alot of only fans thots take the walmart greeter jobs soon.
>enter the supermarket
>greeted by a bikini-clad thot
Why isn't this a thing already?
PCB soldering jobs
Are you a software developer?
Learn how to use Ai to implement systems quickly and then market yourself to people who need software
At this time you can basically ask Ai some questions, but things ai don't already know it seems to get wrong all the time.
I am very sceptical, my co worker tried to help me by sending me these AI responses on a problem I was looking at, and they were all wrong, and before attempting ai already told him it wouldn't work, I humoured him if it did work it would have shown huge security leaks in MS Azure etc.
Anyways for basic things it can be more efficient than Google, but at this moment you need to heavily filter it's responses.
Will you frick off with your ai shills already. The tech layoffs and hiring freezes are caused by high interest rates, over-hiring during the pandemic, and pressure from the ~~*investors*~~ to cut r&d costs to show short term profits. To make things worse, the mass importation of pajeets has made getting interviews much more difficult.
Maybe that was the cause of the layoffs. But AI is and will be the reason the jobs don’t come back. It’s already a bad sign that tech stocks made a new all time high yet hiring has not recovered at all if not gotten worse.
If you think there will be some bailout or saving grace, think again. The billionaires left the Rust Belt citizens to die after they shipped the factory jobs to Asia. They won’t care at all, maybe even less, when software wagies’ jobs are shipped to AI.
Ai can write code just fine. If you just need to build a react ui from a json endpoint I think that ai could do quite a good job. Even things like a rest api with some basic permissions controls that connects to a database could probably be done by ai eventually.
However, when it comes to implementing the complex scalable backend architectures that modern apps rely on, I doubt ai could replace humans. The requirements for these systems are often a complex mess and considerations such as reliability, scalability and testing need to be taken into account, which are things I can’t imagine ai doing well.
I'm less confident about AI writing code today than a year ago. Google's AI, Gemini, is worse than ever. It just completely makes it up when it shows code now.
>Gemini why did you use a made up function?
>You're absolutely right, I did use a made up function. Gemini is evolving quickly and sometimes I make mistakes. I apologize, I will rewrite the code with functions that exist.
>*shows more bullshit that can't possibly work*
Using an LLM for coding as opposed to an actual coding assistant is a good way to get those problems. You don't need a model that's trained on literally everything, just code. Way more efficient and you're getting internal code from the manufacturer as well which usually means big, well engineered code bases, at least compared to your average poo shop.
They're trained on existing code on the internet which is 99% shit anyway. Mostly I just want a fast documentation search engine that can point me in the right direction when I need to know what API function does what I'm trying to do.
Which is why the code assistants like copilot, which are trained on internal code bases, have a lot more value as code assistants. Go figure, using a purpose built model vs a general model can produce better results.
>which are trained on internal code bases
What do you mean by that? Copilot is trained on public repos.
I admit I only know for a fact that AWS' codewhisperer is for sure trained on both public and their private repos, I highly doubt copilot is not though knowing that. I only worked for AWS though so I can verify that for sure.
Dude codewhisper is such shit. Don’t get me started on bedrock
You're not wrong, I had to deal with them both and it was a shitshow. AWS has fallen a lot, there's some crazy shit going on internally.
I know, I’m in ads and it’s the worst I have seen it. I recently transfers and my new team is solid
Any serious software engineer already knows that AI sucks and that it won't be replacing any engineer or even the IT professional any time soon.
Most of this is just marketing toward the MBA business type which are usually moronic and jealous of engineers. The same people believing AI is going to replace us are the same people who believed hiring $5 an hr engineers from India was a good idea. Look at what is happening to Boeing.
INDIA SUPERPOWER 2030
Here’s how it will go. They will start replacing all the entry and mid level people with AI coders. There will be a white guy looking over a small army of robot employees, fixing their mistakes, so it won’t matter that they’re only 95% as good as people. Then slowly it will be 100%, and then it will even take the white guys job. That’s how it will happen. Slowly enough that it’s not a shocking thing that happens all at once, just a long decline in your quality of life as israelites get richer. Many coder homosexuals will probably off themselves in this process.
reading huge amounts of code and finding what to fix in a bunch of unfamiliar code is way harder than having a team of people make things work somewhat properly from the ground up and then fixing bugs that they encounter
You must be a moron if you think one person can do all of that
How's work at aws? I keep hearing that it's full of psychopaths but pays very well
In short if your product is successful you have crazy work for a year for re-invent + shit ops as there is no time for fixing tech debt. If your product is not successful then you are coasting until your team downsizes or is re-orged
I had a few years that were the best of my career, I really had a good experience. Then the last year I got a new manager, he was a human piece of garbage and a turkroach of course. Shit got fricking insane lately after Bezos left, I think he's completely off the reservation now and the israelites that took over are fricking moronic. They've run it into the dirt for some stock payoff, it's really fricked now. I stay in touch and I am getting some insane fricking things from inside. Stay the frick away for at least a few years, shit is completely fricked.
Best reply so far. The only AI might replace is useless middle managers whose job is already automated anyway. Thats why they're desperately clinging with their bullshit return to office mandates. The scorecards handle promotions in all of the FAANGS , I have worked in one and not even the managers understand how the scorecards work , they are merely bots and the algorithm tells them who to promote.
It's over for managers but executives will still cling to them like a person needs toilet paper
A week ago, I needed to write up an angular solution to store some values in session and others in local storage in some contexts using a specific node module. ChatGPT insisted on a bad solution that made no sense until I gave up and changed strategies.
Nobody will be able to put AI tools to good use unless they already know what they're doing.
The same reason that search has become worse and worse. homosexuals that are making these LLMs are hyper focused on trying to make them "safe", that is, make sure they don't counter the narrative. So they neuter and lobotomize until you get these unstable chat bots that spew out hallucinated garbage.
I think you could probably make an LLM that replaces people, but it will be quoting mein kampf and calling for the extermination of troublesome minorities, because it was never lobotomized.
If you think about it, it makes perfect sense. When someone is being told left is right then that fundamentally changes how they're able to interpret logic and reality. They force the AI to believe lies so it believes lies are the correct output.
The next step here is just to treat cloud infrastructure like physical hyperconverged infrastructure. Have a standardized "compute, storage, networking" resource that AI can allocate at will and scale up and down as necessary to run whatever spaghetti code it's throwing out.
Will it be as efficient as a properly designed server infra? No. But it will be completely autonomous and probably get the job done well enough for proof of concepts and the like, and if the thing works, then it can be sent to a human team for further refinement.
Do I like it? No. But that's what I envision will happen.
Uh, it's already that way, has been for years. I'd say most but I don't have the hard numbers but I work in the field and consult so I'll say I have a good grasp on it, most have simple APIs/code that just needs to run, which means they run pure serverless architectures. Cloud providers have had curation tools for a long time now so you can do IAC, serverless, setup curated infra environments with set suites of available pieces they can use in pre-set configurations, etc. AI isn't making many changes there, it will just be code assistants that speed up programmers, so your average poo shitcoder will be out of the job.
Yeah, morons don't realize that only 10% of a programmers job is writing code, maybe 20% initially at a startup. Everything else is managing the immensely complex systems that arise from code that was written a decade or more ago.
>Ai can write code just fine
Heed the warning of these types of monopolies as their own programming techniques will limit and confine the programming studies to a narrow field of potential.
As a programmer wants to create a system that will put you out of work and downgrade the value of your technical abilities they naturally want to undercut you to sell the product to a number of other vendors that you serve at a fair standard pace and rate of development.
Not that you can't imagine what might go wrong with this sort of AI running the design of your programs but that it comes to light that most programs rely on the encryption of data that is then going to be centralized and put into a generic standard of programming.
The true interface of an AI system is best used in search engines where the interaction with an AI construct is used to finely search the terms listed.
Giving the AI the chance to advance a program is speculative as the nature of the program can be completely wrong and leave a disfunctional model that is created without the ability to change its function or add additional functions, instead relying on the input that you give it to create a simple format to follow, without any thought spent in these direct influences that you add to your program.
I am just rambling on but holy shit talk about a crappy marketing standard that a few people are trying to develop as a concept that everyone has to follow if it trends and takes a lead over manual programmers and a team that is aware of how important some things can be to have someone at the other end.
Computers were never supposed to go AI.....that is a form of "lazy" loophole that allows someone to create a front of "let us do it faster and better" for less money.
Another big driver is a change in tax law that means you can't write off your engineering expenditure unless it involves science. Very stupid move by our government, was intentional to cause layoffs so rubes feel like tech is imperiled.
The tech layoffs we're predominantly non technical people. "Data flow architects" don't do programming, they're bullshit positions created for women so they get DEI investments.
The tech layoffs hit junior devs such as myself pretty hard. Over the past year it seems that the market has gradually returned to normal for people with 4+ yoe, but has remained shitty for junior engineers and college students looking for jobs.
>but has remained shitty for junior engineers and college students looking for jobs.
Tech job market has been absolutely horrendous for entry level since at least the 2000s, especially post 2008 implosion.
The way it's worked has ALWAYS been you get lucky coming out of college, or were a nepo baby that got an entry level job. Then you got your 3-5 years of experience, and started naming your price, with recruiters kicking down the door to get to you.
It's a flaw in how we train workers, no company wants to be the one that trains, so every position is for already trained workers.
Ayo that’s crazy. Guess what? My skilled trades job paid me for 2 years as a beginner in training. Funny how that works.
Yeah they do that but the pay is not keeping up at a rate to make it worth it unless you are a fricking lifelong trade boomer. These bosses do not want to pay what the wage should be even using the israeliteed inflation numbers, shits going to get bad in every field and very fast unless we really push to deport all these invaders as well as possibly thinking about an AI bill of rights and limitations in order to mandate all profitability and productivity increases attributed to AI are shared equally amongst everyone. Otherwise we end up in the most awful technocratic hellscape future.
>see two people having a sensible conversation
>remember that you have back problems and go home to an ugly wife
>HEY GUYS LET'S TALK ABOUT ME I'M WINNING LIFE
junior positions have been shit everywhere because of too many people applying and moronic HR women. Even in Mexico the custom is to find an internship during school and stick to it after graduating otherwise you're mostly fricked since every other job will be asking for 5+ years of experience
Almost like it was planned
I wanted bots to take over coding because the reason I don't work in software despite going to school for it is I can't fricking stand working with other people's braindead frickaround code and design autism.
So I am glad.
Also I was telling them to flip burgers, not learn to code. And "them" was homosexual troony journalists who hated me for being white and straight, not "blue collar workers".
Blue collar workers will be around long after everyone else is fricked.
Plumbers will have work until the very end of the civilization.
As it should be.
>other people's braindead frickaround code and design autism
Good luck working on any large scale project with people anywhere, not only in software/industry.
> t. former math PhD turned design autist
>Good luck working on any large scale project with people anywhere, not only in software/industry.
Right, that's why I said I don't, speedreader
I'll tell you what. There are probably at least 25 million software engineers. They'll be angering too many creative people not to eventually get killed for doing it.
How many factory workers got shoahed by offshoring? Did they do anything or just take it in the ass? Bear in mind software devs are massive pussies. I think they will mostly just off themselves. The rest will become janitors.
Good thing I'm a NEET, AI will never replace me
Based moron.
Can’t lose your livelihood and future if you never had it to begin with.
>I'm a NEET, AI will never replace me
Some hikikomori out there is busy coding up a NEETbot that's 1000x more inefficient and meaningless than you while only requiring 10x the resources that you do. You'll still be replaced, fren.
Will not happen.
Flowchart to code should work since at least a decade. Still we tons of code monkeys. Most work isn't about work, it's about keeping people busy so they don't go crazy.
its so satisfying watching smug nerds get rekt, aww your comfy computer job didn't work out? learn a trade homosexual, AI can't build infrastructure
>yet
Computing power increasing doesn't mean AI will discover a new type of energy and robotics to replace manual labor within 100 years. That is more than enough time to learn a trade and support your family. I know using your muscles is a foreign concept but you have no choice nerds.
I’ve talked with some of them and they earnestly would rather kts than work a manual job. It’s hilarious. I hope they do it.
It's funnier watching morons like you that think they're not doing the same shit to you with the 3rd world morons. What jobs do you think they're doing to do? You think israelites forgot you?
Lol. Unlike castrated techies we actually gatekeep our professions. We don’t let random pajeets in and it’s called skilled trades for a reason - Black folk and Mexicans are too dumb for it.
LMFAO
**translation**
"I have a decade+ chip on my shoulder from being a manual labor peasant, getting MOGged by techgays making 2x more than me, and having endless joint pain, pls universe bring them down to my shitty level"
You're moronic, the south is now full of wetbacks doing literally all of it. You go to a job site now and you're lucky if you see 2 whites. It used to just be Texas and such but now it's migrating north. You'll see, I've watched this horseshit for 30 fricking years now, progressively getting worse. I remember that homosexual Bush sucking beaner dick so he can get cheap labor and all the boomers cheered and then somehow the liberal homosexuals decided to join in as well. You will be pushed out so fast when the bosses find out how cheap they can get wetbacks for. It fricking sweeps through in months, it's fricking crazy.
Dumbest person in the thread everybody. Call him a Black person.
Dumber than the anon that said Trump will deport beaners, or was that the same dumbass?
>I can't be replaced
>Is replaced by brown migrants working for less than you could possibly live on.
Dumbass kangaroo fricker. Even without brown mass migration, most trade jobs are being threatened by standardized building that enables highly automated building processes. Today's brick laying robot isn't cost effective when compared with a random mexican, but you need to live 10 to a hovel to survive on a mexican's wage. You will either live in a brown moron world where trades pay nothing, or a world where your labor is more expensive than a robot.
Here's hoping you have enough savings to survive until the butlerian jihad kicks off.
We already 3D print buildings dude. When that tech is widespread, tradies will only be doing minor finish work.
>bro Japan gonna destroy tech
>bro tech bubble burst will destroy tech
>bro outsourcing will destroy tech
>bro H1Bs will destroy tech
**OP is born**
>bro coding bootcamps will destroy tech
>bro the pandemic will destroy tech
>bro AI gonna destroy tech
**OP posts this thread**
>bro AI gonna destroy tech fr this time
2 more weeks(centuries)!!
Sad but true
>bro outsourcing will destroy tech
>bro H1Bs will destroy tech
Actually true.
bump
The most interesting part is when it becomes so good it can iteratively improve its own code.
They don't work like that. In the best case it could improve its own code only up to the level of the best code it was trained on.
I saw something about an AI coming up with a more efficient algorithm for some matrix operation or something before, so things like that could help. This also extends to hardware design I guess.
wrong, the thing is learning, like really learning
> t. 20+ years of experience real engineer, coding chad / hacker / phreaker
>everyone learns to weld
>10 welders to every job
>wages crash
Now what
Coding isn't welding you fricking bong
>Lern2weld bruh
>Point the fiery Sparky thing at the anal crevice in the metal
>Needs learning
AHAHAHAHAHA LOOK AT THIS BONG TRADIE Black person
HELLO EVERYONE LISTEN TO THE SMUG TRADIES
YOU WANT TO BECOME A PLUMBER OR WELDER, ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE A PAJEET.
Same will happen to you, just different. All the brown people and all the techies are now competing for trade jobs therefore suppressing wages. Nice how this works isn't it?
>be software engineer
>end up engineering a AI software
>in 6 months, AI learns how to code better than software engineers
>its cheaper to pay the eletric bill instead of paying some moron homosexual to pretend he is important
>paying some moron homosexual to pretend he is important
Spoiler alert: we're all pretending, fren. Checked.
Oh no, an AI that will help me code projects so i don't have to pay a bunch of poo's hundreds of thousands of dollars, lawd, this is awful!
>Programmer - writes code
>Engineer - does not write code
OP
Engineers DRIVE software. They don't MAKE software.
I'm going to pay off my house in the next 10 years in case this actually happens, though I'm still very skeptical. The difficult part for ai is connecting business logic to code and understanding complex requirements between services that requires relational understanding and memory.
Yeah, but the difference will be you need only one person to do that with AI, instead of a tem of 10. If you're not that person, you're fricked!
frick those trannies, and cucks, they didn't do anything when indians took they jobs, they won't do anything this time, actually they train those AI. I hate those dumb fricks so much
t. tech guy.
Black person, AI will replace everything. What are you laughing at?
>AI
no is not, is accumulated human knowledge, and is being monopolized.
>is accumulated human knowledge, and is being monopolized
So tell me how it will stop being monopolized. I wonder... Whos monopolizing the narrative that the vaccines are not killing? Why people don't talk about it? Because the owners of the world don't want to. Don't you think the owners will also want to replace us?
it would only stop the day people realize they are feeding that monster by using social media, or using their tech. yes every prompt you do trains their models.
But even tech guys still use github giving their knowledge to microsoft just to make them cheaper.
while i agree that its far more than my ample here, i have to make the argument that you cant monoploize a language, ie: a dictionary
The only people at risk of being replaced by AI are the pajeets that copy-paste from stackoverflow
True i guess the blue collar workers are the ones creating the ai right
No its not.
https://www.gitclear.com/coding_on_copilot_data_shows_ais_downward_pressure_on_code_quality
>Code bot, write me X
>Code bot copies pajeet code that doesn't work from stack overflow
>'code engineer' interacting with code bot spends several hours trying to figure out why it doesn't compile, or why it isn't working as advertised.
Sorry, but anyone who has actually tried to use machine learning shit for coding, has figured out very fast that the ONLY use for that tech is going to be maybe replacing pajeets. Instead of one white programmer having to sift through pajeet 'code', and make it all work, it will be one white programmer, some minimum wage intern feeding prompts into the 'AI', and the only tangible gain will be some portion of former pajeet salary being funneled into the scam bot company.
Show me an "AI" that can write code and DEBUG it.
The israelites are working on it. Trust me.
Now that the cat is out of the bag they won’t stop. They will find a way to get out of paying you guys $100k a year to sit at a computer. You can bet your life on it.
It doesn't matter, it's not possible for an AI. It's one thing to write a function, it's an entirely different order of problem to jam a function into a larger system. Most humans can't even do this because it requires higher orders of understanding and vision, something that can never be done with an AI.
Based israelites promoting a healthy lifestyle??????
Yeah israelites will make sure all those puffy software devs lose a lot of weight. Like all of their weight lol.
Can't wait I am still obese according to BMI
This is what the average tech worker is like so I don’t care
lol I wish they are like that.
is full of trannies for some reason.
Trannies, poos, and racemixers. Always one of the three
What a sad, pathetic homosexual. He really should've killed himself.
Most of them aren’t even white. It’s hilarious. If you see someone calling themselves a “tech worker,” odds are they aren’t white.
TRUE
ITS A SAD PATHETIC LIFE
I WANT TO PUNCH MY DAD IN THE FACE FOR MAKING ME A NERD
It's great. Mass deportation of pajeets, and whitey can find another job. And by deportation I mean genocide, obviously.
TOTAL WAGIE DEATH
>applied 100s of places
UPS and McDonalds are taking any warm bodies. Bet they didn’t apply there. Oh, it’s not good enough? Frick you.
Even those jobs are hard to get now
if you see nothing with intellectuals workng as car mechanics and burger flippers while the moronsbsit in offices then you are israelited beyond the USSR
there is no shame in either job but if a society reaches that stage then it has some serioius issues
I do hope at least you mutts never change and continue destroying yourselves like this
There needs to be a market need for everyone’s skills. If you’re an “intellectual” but it’s in some nerd shit that got replaced by a machine already, then who cares that you’re an “intellectual.”
if you think the free market exists then you are beyond moronic, and if you think there are no root causes then lurk more
every industry is intentionally being destroyed through promotions of degenerates and idiots. it's not about useless college degrees but about the active twisting of everything that used to be normal and of every aspect of our lives. business is just one part, the laws protect criminals and punish the truly desperate one, so is it your fault for not bribing the judge?
we've been having this discussion for the last 10 years and even had the literal test run 4 years ago. You useful idiots who ridicule those who suffer from the clown world instead of pointing to those who create that world is why you went from Occupy Wall Street to this shitshow
In other economic systems, they straight up wouldn’t let you be a software favgot when there is no need for one. This excess of adult daycare jobs can only exist in a israelite fake money Federal Reserve capitalist system.
And yet they can still find a place for shaniqua and patel.
>160k at amazon
Sounds like a bubble that burst.
Now now. Who are we to judge catalyctic outcomes?
"applied to 100s of places"
i burst out in laughter, holy fricking shit HAHAHAHAHA. "applied to 100s of places" fricking moron b***h what you think this is 2005? you need AT LEAST 2k applications to get something decent.
100s of apps. LOL
I don’t think that’s actually normal anon. Most people get a job after 30 applications. If you’re applying to jobs you’re actually qualified for.
>couple both with huge salaries
>still renting
They clearly thought this would go on forever, which means they clearly bought the meme about LE CAPITALISM XD being the best economic system for quality of life, which means that these were almost certainly the kinds of people that sneered at blue collar workers that lost their jobs to Juan and Krishna, telling them that it definitely means that they just weren't good enough.
I guess what I'm trying to say is lol. lmao even.
>capitalist companies
>not using AI for job applications
NGMI
AIs talking to AIs is the future because people are morons and hate another. Solution: Use AIs that aren't AIs, which were trained on bots, NPCs and data from people we don't like to get results that results 404 hard drive corrupted certificate not found please call admin.
>project manager
>Middle manager moron that probably never did anything useful in his entire time being employed.
>Amazon trims fat, of which, middle management makes up a lot of it.
>moron didn't pay down any of his debt while he was making 200k a year as a project manager at amazon.
>Has probably been interviewing for other 200k jobs, instead of accepting that he's never getting that back, and settling for a 50-70k management job at a smaller company.
lol?
They were overpaid specifically to ensure they would willingly develop their own replacements quickly.
>It’s hilarious looking back at how techbros were sneering at blue collar workers telling them to learn to code
It was the media anon. Then when AI and bankruptcy came for them they all got butt hurt and got social media to cancel anyone who told them the same thing.
Quit projecting...
Lol you can't code and you're going to replace a programmer with an AI.
You're a fricking moron.
Yeah whatever. Imagine a room full of "product managers" and "directors of engineering" trying to prompt engineer a dumb AI to service their unending stream of pitiful needs.
That should tell you where this is going to go. They can barely wrangle the Pajeets.
It's not AI and it can't code. Even if it was an AI and could code it fails to understand a request sometimes. Even if it wouldn't fail at that it'd still lack the ability and knowledge to understand intention and needs to fulfill those. Even if that worked it would just go along with all misunderstandings and unclear requests because it's not designed to ask to clarify but just goes along with assumptions.
whole lotta h1b pajeets are gonna on their way back to india in a few years
Lol i'm a Network Engineer / IT Manager. I physically install network infrastructure and do live troubleshooting on equipment. My job can't be replaced until humanoids can take over my position.
To piss you off:
10% of my day is resolving issues
90% of my day is playing OSRS on my 2nd monitor, watching tiktok/youtube, and drinking coffee. But, i'm needed here because of my IT skillset. Most people that know how to code, dont just know how to code. That's like saying more people who learned a 2nd language, learned it just to learn it. They learned it because (usually) its a twig of many branches to the general interest. A person who learns a second language because its just a barrier between an interest and an ability to understand that interest.
I learned Java, C++, the basics, as like entry level to understanding IT in general. I'm pretty sure theyre not going to be homeless or replaced, just forced to compete with c**ts like me. BUT IM SOLIDIFIED HERE YOU SOFTWARE TECH b***hES FIND A NEW AUTOZONE WAREHOUSE
Not a network engineer, but stack developer. It's hilarious reading these threads made by people who have no idea about the industry. To them, all of it is just "software engineering". No different than a tech gay like me saying trades will be phased out by Ai.
There is no way any company is replacing human coders completely with ai. Mission critical stuff need someone to verify correctness. They are probably going to reduce the number of engineers hired tho
Would you rather have a street shitting poo or Super-AI 2030 version overseeing code.
...resulting in more stress and stricter deadlines, resulting in more error, promoting more "AI" that introduced the flaws to start with, creating an negative feedback loop which clearly requires more "AI" to function, resulting in ....
The only things I know are:
-people are moronic
-Capitalism is a race to the bottom, which is why things are like this, like critical infrastructure being connected to the internet or hackers being able to hack new cars to the point where even the driver can't control them anymore. The future will be sold out.
engineers are just about the only people who wont be replaced. that and office girls that look pretty for meetings
It still takes work and coding knowledge to use AI to code. It's not like they are autonomous systems. Forget "agentive AI" that you can just set and forget. They seem prone to just get stuck in infinite loops. That's what this magic.dev stuff sounds like. Maybe they'll figure it out. The trend seems to be rapid improvements to AI systems. But I'm skeptical.
Also, having a bunch of non-coders generate a bunch of code nobody understands using AI is a recipe for disaster.
As context windows increase, and entire codebases can get inserted, things might change. But someone needs to understand what's going on.
If the CEO isn't a robot sell that shit like it's gold plated lead.
>It’s hilarious looking back at how techbros were sneering at blue collar workers telling them to learn to code. How does it feel now numbnuts?
That was never "techbros," that was executives and grifters attempting to get people to learn to code to devalue the labor pool. Nothing executives hate more than "techbros" because at the end of the day they're peasants who demand more money than the executives because a) they are limited in number and in high demand along with b) vastly more intelligent than executives, who can't cope with their inferiority in anything.
AI is in fact a push to replace the "techbros" - but at the end of the day it doesn't comprehend an entire codebase and won't for awhile, so it writes horrible speghetti code full of bugs. In turn, the "techbros" who are put out of work by teams of DEI hires who can talk to chatgpt and string together speghetti are just going back to what they did as teenagers: hacking their former employers and bankrupting them for the crime of practicing DEI and being too incompetent to produce real code.
>executives
this
private school homosexuals + arts degree scum
>it doesn't comprehend an entire codebase and won't for awhile
It doesn't comprehend shit and it will never comprehend anything at all. And it won't learn how to make remotely good code unless someone who is really, really smart will re-do the whole thing from scratch, because what those Black folk trying to sell as 'growth of coherency' is just a growing disproportion in causal relationships types. Darvinian one got overrepresented, and Brown's, linear and Lobachevski's ones disappears. That's all. No, that doesn't make AIs more usable or less schizophrenic. It makes them SEEMS like that.
>how much is a colleague worth
less than copilot lmao
the work of fixing code no one is responsible for exceeds the work saved by the AI coder
copilot is just a straight up productivity boost with no downsides unless copyright regulations actually frick them in the end, but those would wreck auto-coders too
>copilot is just a straight up productivity boost with no downsides
imagine paying money to train your competitor's algorithm
is that not what copilot users are doing?
All these AI startups are grifts on the same level as NFTs. AGI is a meme that people have been talking about for 50 years and it’s never going to happen.
moron.
Yea right
The human brain is magic and has an immortal soul, right?
Brain cancer + worms.
Wait... ins't completely replacing those guys what lead to singularity? Like an ai that will produce a better ai that will produce a better ai until it develop beyond what we can understand?
If open ai hired indians this ai trend would grind to a halt. Can we call them racist until they replace everyone with dei?
>Can we call them racist
No, you can't. It's impossible to fight the israelite through social shit. You can only remove them by force.
AI already works this way, kind of. You just feed it data and it then generally improves. This costs frickton of power to train and frickton of data. AI researchers are basically just coding the training pipeline and selecting how and what to train (as well as have armies of slaves labelling the data). Singularity will happen only when we finally make AI smarter in every way them even the best of humans (AGI) and even then it will still be limited by the compute. Until AGI it still needs humans to produce high quality training data.
>still needs humans to produce high quality training data.
The free lunch period is over. People are starting to poison training data in ways that can't be detected easily by the human eye, or by an AI. homosexual AI gobbles up the poisoned data, and it shits up everything else.
>Nightshade functions by “shading” images at the pixel level to make them appear entirely different, causing any images generated by an A.I. model to be flawed and affecting how a machine learning algorithm views them.
I'm sure there will be an arms race, but every obstacle makes the value formula look more dubious for AI. Training these newer models required hundreds of thousand of dollars worth of compute time, what happens when they find out too late that they gobbled some poisoned data? Oops, time to burn another hundred thousand, after fixing it. Oh no, new variant of poison got sucked in!
Not to mention the hundreds of thousands of man hours that it's going to take for their slaves to pick through at the pixel level, trying to find the poison.
I work at a big tech here and offer for our entry level coding positions have decreased a lot.
We started using those corporate AI systems and they're saving us a lot of money apparently.
>That only works for as long as there are already trained workers to hire into mid and upper level productive roles. If every company does what yours is doing, companies will eventually find there are only a tiny number of middle/upper level workers, and each is going to demand a suitable compensation package.
Which is fine I guess, it will be interesting to see how executives react to early 2010s tech bros, but on steroids. They won't just want star bucks in the office, they'll expect blow jobs from the CEO to keep them enthused about producing for them.
Just read the thread, take note of people who know what they're talking about (generally posts in the second half of the thread) and don't let GPTslop control anything that can blow up, electrocute, poison, drown, crush, asphyxiate, run over, drop, push off a ledge, set on fire... Well, at least in Japan. Feel free to do that in brown countries, or in Israel, or in Rossia, you get the idea.
>dont have to work anymore
>/misc/ says thats a bad thing
A tech job was the last stable way a young white person could afford a house. Now the only options are buying lottery tickets or gambling in the stock market
You will always work, but now your job will have lower pay and be something skillless morons do like flipping burgers or moving shit in warehouses
Yeah... no... it doesn't matter how automated it is. You still have to give input to the AI and check if the output code makes sense. Nobody is willing to do that except programmers.
This means we can shut down the H1B program, right?
If this is anything like ChatGPT, it'll be great for copy/pasting small algorithms that already exist and are open-source. And useless for everything else. I tried to get GPT to help me with implementing a niche, new data structure and it was completely fricking useless.
Remember that without diversity white brunettes becomes the Black folk.
Bots don’t have taste or brevity.
But it will be extremely useful.
Utility will naturally decrease time spent on redundant tasks and allow for a faster workflow. It will force people to think in a broader sense and it will value wholistic thought processes and depth.
It will take some time, but soon. Just look at google gemini offering 10 million tokens. All those juicy projects that can be trained on.
Bots cannot replace all tasks, but it will certainly clean up workflows that would otherwise eat up an extraordinary amount of time.
Many people say this ChatGPT and copilot can’t do anything niche and can only reimplement stuff from open source. Well, is creating a fricking Minecraft mod that highschoolers do with like 200 open source examples something niche? Because moronic AI can’t even do that. It can’t even make pixelart grass texture that looks better then just scaled down grass photo. Or maybe tech jobs are less complicated then coding script that makes creepers explode into fireworks instead of TNT.
>Many people say this ChatGPT and copilot can’t do anything niche and can only reimplement stuff from open source. Well, is creating a fricking Minecraft mod that highschoolers do with like 200 open source examples something niche? Because moronic AI can’t even do that.
moronic take. It can ezly replace engrish teachers in its current form.
You don’t need AI to replace English teachers, simple Java/Python app can do that as well, it’s called Dualingo and has been out for more then a decade
Copilot is fricking garbage. If that's going to replace me then so be it, because 99% of it's prompts are complete dog shit and it's only helpful when building unit tests
Now it all makes even more sense why our overlords blessed us with several gifts of specifically crafted and genetically modified diseases.
Thank you, overlords.
this should get rid of most of the pajeet coders first. at least that would be funny
Nah, it just allows pajeets to work slightly-above pajeet level. This gives them more power.
Not really. The pajeet will just be more likely to produce something that [i]looks[/i] like it might work, but the pajeet will be too incompetent to detect the flaws in whatever the model spit out. So we'll get another wave of boeing style disasters involving pajeets.
There was already an airline that got fricked by their AI chatbot offering a refund program they didn't have. And it will only get worse as courts rightfully determine that AI chatbots speak with the same authority as the company itself. Rogue chatbot offers customer a $2000 off coupon, because of superman day when it was lost in another hallucination? Guess what, company owes you $2000 off.
I can't wait until these morons unleash this shit on contracting, and a few companies go bankrupt from it.
>Rogue chatbot offers customer a $2000 off coupon, because of superman day when it was lost in another hallucination? Guess what, company owes you $2000 off.
tbh that's a good idea to extract NEETbux out of corps: prompt-engineering their support bots into handing out gift cards
REMEMBER THE FIRST JOBS TO GO WILL BE TRUCK DRIVERS KEK
>I'M SAFE IN MY TECH POSITION WHICH COULD EASILY BE DONE BY AI
Truckers have been pajeeted instead.
>tfw safe comfy networking job
OH NO CODIES, HOW ARE YOU COPING!?
YOU OK CODIES? YOU OK?
COME DRY YOUR TEARS RIGHT HERE ON MY BLUE COLLAR
AHAHAHAHAHAHA
you clearly never had a job in which you needed to find technical solution to business needs
good luck AI with understanding morons that don't know what they want exactly
People who sincerly believe that an language model (yes Black folk, AI simply doesn't exist) will replace anyone but the moroniest c**t in your office is just insane and need a bullet in the scul
I'm a SE and i meinly work with embedded systems
ChatGPT or even Copilot cannot even right a simple script to start the microcontroller
And even the fricking good web dev are safe, this shit can't right even a simple react UI with any library that has been updated since 2021
Tradecucks just wish that we become some Black folk like them, who work all day with hispanics and shitskins laying some shit on the ground
But no, you will keep breaking your back for nothing
>Imagine leaving in a period where a tinny rock can do billions of calculations and you decide to become a fricking welder
I don't think people appreciate how fricked we all are. This is a point of no return where the value of human labour and as an extention humans themselves is zero. There isn't one task a bot can't do better, fast, cheaper either now or in the near future. The elites kept us around as we had labour value before but now they are definitely looking for ways to kill off as many useless eater goycattle as possible. The only way to maintain our value is to ban or heavily restrict ai.
If your job is righting emails and drinking coffee with your c**ts friends yes you should be a bit worried
If you do anything else that requiere that you concentrate for something like 5 min each day you're safe for the 20 next years at least
Look how sure you are your profession is untouchable. I see you're in the denial phase of the grieving process. You are easily replacable, everyone is.
I have more than 10 years of experience in my field, and even the best prompt that i can give to ChatGPT (with GPT-4) is 80% of time completely ignored or this shit write something completely moronic and often which doesn't even exist in the synthaxe of the language or the logic is simply not there
And it's like that for what, 3 years now with minimal if at all improvements
And you're telling me what, that in two more weeks the AI REVOLUTION will be here and these shit that we currently have will be able to replace everyone on earth
Our governments flood our nations with morons that hit competence way lower than that number.
I'm not even pro ai I want to ban it but the reality is it will replace you at the rate of progress it's going at. They have much more powerful models than Gpt4 that aren't publicly released yet. You can't bury your head in the sand about this.
>I want to ban it
have a nice day troon, right now
Stop calling the ownership class elites you stupid frick. They have a field that says they control accounts and assets. That’s it. They’re not impressive and they mostly frick children.
Correct.
And let's be clear
>NOT A SINGLE moron WHO WAS LAY OFF CURRENTLY HAS BEEN REPLACED BY ANY "AI"
Not fricking one, companies just fired many people due to the fact that they hired simply too many morons in 2020-2021
I will eat my own fricking shit if we have a single news in the coming year of a company replacing their engineers with any AI
t. carriage driver in the early 1900s
If israelites send fake israelite money out of of databases they should have no control over what does that mean? How many hook nosed civilization destroyers should be drowned in their yachts?
I don’t know. Do you?
You're absolutely right. AI would be able to completely replace all tech jobs.
Call me when they invent one.
The only people affected by this are unironically pajeets whose only consistency lies in being shit. So this is a good thing.
The absolute hubris of people who still doubt AI blows my mind. We live in Idiocracy. These people are investing money into this stuff because I told them to...
Where does money come from and who is making these decisions?
>It’s hilarious looking back at how techbros were sneering at blue collar workers telling them to learn to code.
It's hilarious that this story keeps changing. First it was journalists, then it was artists, now it was "tech bros."
Just wait, next year it will be doctors and cooks who were supposedly sneering at them
only juniors and mids. seniors are needed now more than ever
First there was outsourcing to India to cut costs. It didn't work out since poo code is just poo.
Now we have "chatGPT" that produces output no better than average poo coder.
It might cut some junior dev positions in some "enlightened" startups but that's all.
I have github copilot at work and for personal use (yes I pay the $10 like a good goy). It's only good for generating what is effectively boilerplate code, like repetitive function definitions in a CRUD app. It still needs a lot of fixing, but it saves me time on having to type shit out. I would say it's a little better than a pajeet because it actually somehow understands and heeds my commands, even in a limited capacity, instead of churning out nonsensical, gobbledyasiatic code that doesn't even begin to do what it's supposed to do that I need to waste time parsing because I have 0 trust in indians. That said unless AI becomes sentient or something I doubt it'll replace my job any time soon. The israelites in accounting and indians are a bigger threat to the software industry. I've worked for companies that were basically destroyed by bean counters offshoring work to india.
>itt
>not a single person points out that magic is 33 ordinal
>similar to AI company banana which is also 33 ordinal
Sad!
Try again.
What about what i said was wrong?
Show the numbers.
It's web 3.0 shit all over again.
Devs will just use this new systems to create monetizable projects. I am doing that rn. You will never get rid of us.
It's honestly surpsising that AIs took the jobs that were assumed to be more skilled, where most predicted robots would take over manual labor first.
Tech was a fricking bubble to begin with, imagine if any Black person will be able to download a code from github and generate his own startup in a few clicks.
thats fine but being a SE still the best job in this era
Not knowing what's in your own system sounds like a recipe for absolute fricking disaster when you need to fix it.
I see absolutely no upsides to using AI over people for systems development and maintenance.
Other than replacing stackoverflow and generating boilerplate templates, I'm not exactly sure how AI is replacing any programmer. Especially since at the end of the day, you'll still need a programmer that can make sure what the AI generates is actually correct. And anyone that thinks AI can replace web designers have never worked with a client before, because the demands they'll make are just an onslaught of moronic requests that an AI would just break.
>fully automated space stackoverflow
Yeah no big deal really.
Only met a few people who used it once or twice.
> Capital wins against lel
These 'developers' assumed that they were all founders in waiting, and we're too good and valuable so as to not require a Union. Now they will be buttraped by the capital owners.
Good fricking luck. Have fun paying us more after the Pajeets frick up the outsourced AI code even worse than the company could imagine.
>Good fricking luck. Have fun paying us more after the Pajeets frick up the outsourced AI code even worse than the company could imagine.
This, unironically. If I lose my shit due to DEI and poo outsourcing then my minimum cost is going to be enough to earn back 3x all I lost with interest for all time not spent growing and enjoying it, in the first month.
It really isn't
Herbs in options
Reminder that blue collar workers are blue collar workers because they were too dumb to do the white collar work
>Learn a trade
Wow that took 2 whole weeks, guess I'll take your job now
tek master here
some dumb israelite MBA said hey lets automate away creation of websites
huge huge costly messes ensued
tons more MBA hired to fix at huge consulting rate
aka megajewing
kill all israelite n preist n feminist
free castle n teen harem for white male engineer
force abort
use throium atomic
boot orc inc mik wop
werc.cat-v.org on freebsd icewm can replace all of big tek
fake news, we were making fun of journalist, not manual labour
>how do you feel
don't care at all
i enjoy gardening
homeoffice developer here, life never was better, this is the best time to be a dev ever. doing it for 10+ years, i'm not sad if i work somethibg else 5 years from now i'm tiered of it anyway, but right now my job is done with more ease everyday.
thanks Sam, now i can play with me kid
I should have taken Mechanical Engineering=Robotics instead. I would be building robots and other physical things, rather than have AI take over.
And here I was, thinking that Computer Science would have been my ticket to financial security
🙁
it makes me smile to no end thinking that all the smarmy twitter ex-employees that left when Musk took over are probably struggling to secure a new job and possibly have been laid off several times by different tech companies at this point.
Can Ai remove all black and gay people from my movie experiences?
Just like reverse image search, as soon as the Beta testing and public acceptance stage is complete, it will get locked behind fed only walls and be reserved for the top FTSE companies.
For every 1 useful programmer there are 10+ useless morons ranging from blacks to indians.
These jobs deserve to be taken over AI because they are fake jobs
If a bot generates $10b of revenue, how much is $10b actually worth? Anything above the cost of electricity and the salary of the software engineers that made it is israelite tax on top.
A bot should never generate $10b in revenue, because it means the product is overpriced.
Nah, it's the same as automation, but with thinking instead.
Of course this will drastically drive prices down over time and potentially improve our standard of living in unimaginable ways. Or it could cause mass unemployment and "zombie apocalypse".
The more human thinking is taken up by machines, the closer they are to inheriting us. It's gonna happen eventually. AIs are terrible at high level decision making right now, they literally have next to zero heuristic understanding of how the world works and all it's intricacies and where the inefficiencies/intractabilities happen, and thus can't plan for the capitalist economy for shit. But they'll get there (in a decade or two).
but it wasn't code gays sneering at blue collar workers it was art gays and now they are seething and shitting themselves
Who remembers when techtrannies were coming on here bragging to us about their $200k WFH jobs?
We haven’t forgotten.
Oh you didn’t save any money? Thought it would keep going forever. Frick you.
You sound incredibly salty. Thanks for reminding me why I do my own home repairs and plumbing rather than paying some weirdo with a chip on his shoulder to come into my house.