BOT is having a coping session in their containment board
>muh soul
>y-you cannot _really_ control what's it spitting out
>i-it's not even good
But ai-stacy Suno already got ahead of them:
https://app.suno.ai/song/c30796e9-2615-4275-be81-b5b54ee2c781/
Music is actually the easiest to replace for AI because its all computer made and soulless anyway.
Dont know i listened to some of the first examples years ago and it sounded like dogshit and thought it would take at least 20-30 more years but oh well
AI is advancing at exponential speeds.
in 20 years there probably wont even be any media that isnt AI generated.
Makes me wonder about the future of AI generated content.
They initially train it on actual real imagery, text and sounds.
But as their training data becomes more and more infested with AI generated content, there's going to be some weird digital incest thing going on.
What monstrosities lays beyond that horizon?
no monstrosities because they can always finetune the models.
there are still lots of problems to solve tho.
like affordable GPUs that can into AI for example.
Also no real business model has emerged from AI, its still not a profitable business.
>business model
Not yet but its augmenting and fricking up jobs areas. Translation services were a big one, art was the one upfront that caused an uproar. The copilot stuff for programming is getting better. Video gen with sora is making some headway too so post production companies are getting disrupted.
Getting rid of humans is profitable.
https://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2024/03/blind-items-revealed-3_02057912486.html
And nobody will tune in.
Bots will.
Interesting? times
Bots provide spam not meaningful engagement. Sure, there could be a "loop" of ai bot engagement but it will mean very very little for real people. I predict you are going to see a very big Renaissance in fields like journalism and so on as average consumer is already fatigued with AI.
That's an optimistic prediction. Sadly there's not that many people left, thanks to mass NPC mutations from internet brainwashing, covid propaganda and Fabian gradualism eroding free will & consciousness.
How many people do you think remain online that are not bots or NPCs? How many average consumers are going to be needed in the very near future?
I'm more optimistic about what you predict occuring after some kind of massive disruption event, like a coronal mass ejection https://www.livescience.com/space/the-sun/earth-hit-by-radiation-from-rare-double-x-class-solar-flare-triggering-most-powerful-geomagnetic-storm-in-6-years
Yeah, it will probably degenerate into AI music by AIs for AIs
Singularity? But your thoughts have crossed mine before, its becoming a significant problem. The feedback loops can be seen right now with the US stock market already, algorithms that feed into other that cause feedback loops of what makes money.
Its insanity and inhuman.
you're talking about model collapse, I was a theory that AI being trained on synthetic data would destroy it, it's mostly a myth cope that still gets parroted for some reason. AI training on synthetic data and helping to train itself is what's causing certain things to leap frog it's competitors like Sora.
The acceleration speed is still fricking amazing, I mean 1-2 years ago we still were in the fricking stoneage of ai
Whats going on? Burgers still sleeping? Give me your ai slop
>chatgpt 4 released march 2023
>1-2 years ago we still were in the fricking stoneage of ai
>limit of 25 outputs per three hours, or whatever
I'll stick with 3.5
I don't get the doubters anon. On reddit, twitter, even here every time the old AI comes up you'll have folks downplaying its quality. It's like they don't remember ChatBot or those early DallE arts. It was just a year or two ago when that was the limit. It's like a weird form of denial. This shit is going to massacre the job market and all these people are fricked.
As a graphic designer I just thank god I got into crypto and retired early
It will hit a power consumption rate we cannot keep up with chances are it will end up being cheaper to do it the normal way
gotta produce more power or make the process more efficient.
still lots of gains to be made here.
the AI company still makes no money from any of that tho.
chatgpt has never turned a profit.
if you think running a computer is more expensive than employing a human being with a salary and benefits, you're high
Yup. It's over.
>cgi is advancing at exponential speeds in 2000
>in 20 years there won't be any movies that aren't fully cgi
most movies are CGI already, in fact every Movie uses CGI nowadays.
You're aware there are...animated movies yes?
This is a good point. These technologies grow exponentially and then some times hit a brick wall.
Frick the special effects in the original Jurassic Park still lool better then those shitty Jurassic World movies.
As good as CGI gets it never looks the same as something real.
Exactly this is what's gonna happen with what we currently call 'AI'. They really should stop calling it this, because everyone automatically thinks its something out of a sci-fi movie and makes the same mistake as the people in the 50s and 60s, who thought we'd be colonizing the solar system by now.
Exactly. AI is over hyped by idiot journalists for clickbait. In reality it's just a formula that uses a database and steals info from that and arranges it into an output pattern.
This is a shit fricking cope. CGI is not "intelligence". You cannot derive anything and everything from CGI. You can only do that with Ai.
You are able to increasingly get everything from Ai- games, music, cgi, etc.
It is intelligence. It is automating mankind itself. And eventually it will become life. All other technologies cannot even begin to compete.
The ironic thing is that this isn't even real Artificial Intelligence. This is basically glorified auto-complete.
But this is all alpha phase stuff- as with anything mankind makes. It will get more advanced- especially since this is regarding computers.
Once someone develops the true intelligence algorithm, you are all going to ROPE.
>this is all alpha phase stuff
THANK YOU. All the b***hing in this thread is this generation's "Automobiles will NEVER replace horses"
You morons said the same shit about hardware and computer graphics. Yet we still get THIS shit.
>cherrypicking
Starfield was wonderful example of generative AI for those planets, which in turn were often glitchy and patched with random assets because all AI can do is rehash database code to essentially generate an outcome. You can do same shit in Heroes III......
Cancerous it is
The only truth to music and it's place with humans is Natasha's dance
But to escape from normies, might as well incept their brains by making AI pop trap bass drop garbage that they slurp up like the cancer they are
I have no reason to consoooooome tho.
Just pirate the AI and do it yourself.
It's frankly a perfect example of our society's stupidity that the average person doesn't understand what art is for.
No one will listen to AI music, no matter how "good" it is, because people don't listen to music for how technically proficient it is (and this one isn't), but to feel what the creator wanted them to feel with their music. They always associate songs, even shitty songs, to the people who make them.
Think of these:
1) Would you eat nutrient paste as long as it has a good taste every day? morons try with all those onions meals but most don't last over 2 weeks or develop eating disorders. They make excuses, but the truth is eating food is a social, personal and emotional experience. "Taste" and "nutrition" are just a part of it. If you're anxious when eating a meal you won't even absorb nutrients correctly, it's wired deeply in your brain.
2) Are most people happy fapping to anime pictures or do they feel anger and sadness at being out of society and anger against women, and dream of human warmth and someone with a sense of self who loves and accepts them? Again morons think a robot programmed to say "i care about you" will feel real to them. It will only feel real to the mentally ill and the deluded, making them addicted and even worse off. Everyone else will just feel suicidal. (See what happened during COVID when people had to stay home for an year.) They had the same symptoms as criminals in solitary confinement. Someone who sees your flaws, does judge them with their own selfish, imperfect selves, and still cares for you, because they need you. No machine will ever truly need you enough to ever develop true affection, just fakery.
tl;dr: humans are meatbags with emotions, and machine-made surrogates for social and emotional content will always feel wrong to human beings
>tl;dr: humans are meatbags with emotions, and machine-made surrogates for social and emotional content will always feel wrong to human beings
That's a good point, but don't worry, they will create fake AI-driven persons to associate with the fake artslop.
>don't worry, they will create fake AI-driven persons to associate with the fake artslop.
That's possible, but that's what happens today with "pop idols". You already need to curate some bimbo to fit the part, what need is there to make it AI and harder to sell? It's already produced ad-hoc. They already tried to make AI personas in kpop (the AESPA group), but all their fans are obsessed with the meatbags because KPOP is projection central for women. There's even a group with male anime models, but they still have actors behind them, like v-tubers, which the fans obsess about.
You just proved my point. They'd hear a song then rush to associate it to a human being. You can definitely listen to random songs just for the pleasure of the moment, but it won't mean anything to you, and it being AI means you won't pay for it because everyone can make it. You'll listen to them, then move on and forget about them entirely. Even product managers know that it's a hopeless product if it doesn't connect people nor provide a function. Ironically what might happen is people will prompt their own music and crash the whole digital music industry.
>That's possible
It's already happening. A lot of people go watch vocaloids like Hatsune Miku in concerts.
You can argue the music was still made by human composers, but Ai will replace even that in the future.
Once it gets to the point where you can't tell the difference in lyrics, music quality, etc. people will still go to the concerts.
More people might go actually, once they realize Hatsune Miku is no longer just a projection on a screen but a real Ai persona that can make its own music.
What if it's powerful enough to make music on the spot in a concert? That's possible too in the future. More people would go.
>(See what happened during COVID when people had to stay home for an year.)
Pfff... Normies...
>They always associate songs, even shitty songs, to the people who make them.
Not really. Back in the day you'd hear a song on the radio and you'd like it but you sometimes wouldn't no the artist's name or how they look, so you'd look it up after so you can buy the album. Simps were always around but they'd still need a good song.
>Back in the day you'd hear a song on the radio and you'd like it but you sometimes wouldn't no the artist's name or how they look
I think you're taking his point too literally. What he's getting at is that these songs only have an emotional impact because they're perceived to communicate something meaningful from the creator.
Not necessarily because there are also instrumentals. Axel F or Pop Corn were synth music but everybody liked them, you could say it's bcs they liked the movie for the Axel F but there were other film tunes that were forgotten, Also Sprach Zaratustra was introduced to wider audience by a movie but it's a hit on its own, just as Pink Panther or Oxygen or Chariots of Fire
That's funny but you failed to make an actual point.
>You just proved my point. They'd hear a song then rush to associate it to a human being.
Not at all, they wouldn't "rush" for simping but you need to know the artist's name so you can ask for it at the store, asking them to sell you the album of that song you've heard this morning would make you look like a lunatic.
I know almost nothing about personal lives of artists I listen to, the very little I do know is learned randomly and accidentally and I don't care about their private affairs.
>Not necessarily because there are also instrumentals.
If you don't think instrumentals communicate anything meaningful I have to question your sentience.
>Axel F or Pop Corn were synth music but everybody liked them
Right, but they were just catchy tunes at the time. No one cares about them now beyond nostalgia. No one considers Pop Corn to be some masterpiece for the ages.
>If you don't think instrumentals communicate anything meaningful I have to question your sentience.
The point is that it's electronic music so its output is perfectly within the scope of AI yet AI never made it. People didn't care about "the human behind it".
>Right, but they were just catchy tunes at the time.
So where's the AI catchy tune for the time
>No one cares about them now beyond nostalgia. No one considers Pop Corn to be some masterpiece for the ages.
Literally every generation knows what tune Pop Corn is, even zoomers so it doesn't matter what you "consider" it, that tune is eternal in its own right and by its own merit so it actually is a masterpiece for the ages but you can always snub it because it wasn't composed by a man in a white wig.
>So where's the AI catchy tune for the time
HAHAHAHAHAHAH there it is again!
"Why would it get dark? It's sunny out!"
>Absolutely seething because anons see that AI slop sucks and they don't care to believe that one day it will be the greatest music ever
Kek what a loser
>People didn't care about "the human behind it".
You gave examples that don't communicate anything meaningful in the first place. What's your point?
>You gave examples that don't communicate anything meaningful in the first place.
Are you moronic, you are going in circles.
>t. mentally challenged
The bottom line is that no one will ever take AI music seriously because there is nothing behind it. It doesn't communicate anything.
>but muh Corn Pop
Maybe AI will create the next Corn Pop but it will never create something that will mean anything to an intelligent and perceptive person.
You
>What he's getting at is that these songs only have an emotional impact because they're perceived to communicate something meaningful from the creator.
Me
>Not necessarily because there are also instrumentals. Axel F or Pop Corn were synth music but everybody liked them,
You
>If you don't think instrumentals communicate anything meaningful I have to question your sentience.
Also You
>You gave examples that don't communicate anything meaningful in the first place. What's your point?
I hate morons so much it's unreal
>t. mentally challenged
The bottom line is that no one will ever take AI music seriously because there is nothing behind it. It doesn't communicate anything. It will never create something that will mean anything to an intelligent and perceptive person.
Kek a broken NPC meatbot
So what's your argument again? That instrumental music doesn't communicate anything? Or that AI may create something deeply meaningful like the next Crazy Frog?
Super computers can run at 100 Petaflops or roughly 50 Petahertz. Human brains can run at 2.4 Petahertz at max capacity, though on average the prefrontal cortex only lights up at 0.24 Petahertz at maximum on average.
Computers can run at 21 times the speed of an overclocked human brain or 210 times the speed of an overclocked prefrontal cortex.
Global storage of information is roughly 20 Petabytes.
Which means that it would require 9 fricking people to do what they do.
Computers are quickly moging humans.
9 times more memory.
21 times velocity.
In 50 years people that don't own farmland will be literally slaves, way worse than the modern wagies.
Thank you Choronzon. Exactly what I needed to hear.
Or women
Sure, if you listen to Black person music, which I suppose you krauts do nowadays.
AI can do every music genre that exists
thats also CGI
>AI can do every music genre that exists
Yeah - poorly. But I don't expect a german autist to recognize the difference.
>Yeah - poorly
for now.
its like you are complaining about the Ford T series.
Can't wait until we train an AI on Bach, Mozart, etc. and it creates real music. We will create symphonies in our own living room and piss on the Black person rappers, israelite producers and traitor media who have been shoving their degenerate trash down our throats for decades.
You can't train AI and AI doesn't create anything. It would draw from a database with Bach etc and then just rehash those pieces through a blended output.
This is a fundamental truth incels dont understand
Also, to get AI to “create” anything you still have to prompt the shit out of it. So in essence all you are doing is democratising music by taking any and all needed skill out of it
coping homosexuals.
suno can already do that tho
what if people prefer rap over symphonies?
>Can't wait until we train an AI on Bach, Mozart, etc. and it creates real music.
Suno already does that there are a million renditions of these things.
I've written some generative music stuff and was very impressed by Suno. Nobody will actually want to listen to it because it sounds like shit but sometimes it gives you genuinely interesting progressions alongside bass tones that are inspiring.
It's great for prototyping ideas or for video game dynamic music. I really want to scrape as much as possible then make a bunch of shovelware using it lol. It's perfect for background loops.
I don't think AI can replace Kraut-Rock, which is my favorite. Old school kraut-rock. But I agree, today's music is utter shit.
Photography is the easiest 'artform' to reproduce
People will always want their photo taken. Weddings, events, etc.
Let me know when AI can make artistic decisions to add a high-pass at 600Hz instead of 400Hz, or to compress 200Hz at a 4:1 ratio with a high attack and slow release. That's just the production side. AI will never be able to tap in and write lyrics from the soul on the fly, or tap into that genuine random creative surge humans have. AI is replicative not innovative, talentless gays.
>Having serious opinions about music
You must be 18 to post here
Music is the rawest connection to the human soul, it's pure energy. Hating music is an edgy contrarian NPC take.
I didn't say I hated music, I just said you take it too seriously. Head on back to >>>BOT with the rest of the fartsniffers
>how dare someone take something they're passionate about seriously
Again, you're just a soulless contrarian NPC husk. You will never be a real human.
yawn
Forgot to generate the other leg there Raj
>i don't get it because i'm blinded by pedantry
typical
picrel. your arguments are tired and unoriginal
>picrel. your arguments are tired and unoriginal
Speak to me when AI knows when to saturate vs turn a signal up 3db.
See you in a few years, Mr. Myopia
>Speak to me when AI knows when to saturate vs turn a signal up 3db
Frick I don't even know how to do that right, which why I wanted AI mixing, not this suno gimmick shit
Even if he did, it wouldn't matter. His mastery and skill will be forever lost in the ever-growing ocean of content. He doesn't understand that popularity is born out of promotion. He doesn't understand that the "originality" of artists almost equally referential as AI because he doesn't understand how brains work. He wouldn't know about saturation vs boosting unless he had some frame of reference, and is too busy jerking himself off for the fading edge he has over machines.
>all art must be a commoditization piece of shit and should strive to be popular
You ever heard of doing something for fun, that isn't cooming or playing videogames?
>reading comprehension
go write a song about it that no one will hear
cope loser, get a real hobby
>loser
when's your world tour, rock god?
never coming cause I do it for free and for fun, cause I'm not a soulless husk and I have a successful day job
cope and seethe loser
>cope and seethe loser
you don't have to sign your stage name on your posts - we still won't look you up
https://app.suno.ai/song/995f210b-4164-43b1-b238-18e785df3bad
consoom AI slop, never develop skills. consooooom soullessness
t. you
>have the fun the way i want you to
as i said earlier, you have to be 18 to post here
hey if you're having fun making AIslop go for it. you're maybe half a step above the average braindead consoomer.
Can your slop machine match this? Why not ?
>Inb4 it's also a video
No prob, AI makes those too
?t=14
>i can only see the current state of technology
yet another high time preference slav moron
>Two more weeks, I believe in AI
What a slop worshipper
>Two more weeks
lol your ai music is bad, endless motif with no finality or crescendo, just another example of AI slop from a talentless stoog, propped up by their digital manifestations and you think this is a win.
Speaking to midwits here, you can have your AI slop, marry it even.
same goes for (You)
Worship your AI god.. no one is stopping you. Don’t get upset when people don’t like what you like, midwit
>Don’t get upset when people don’t like what you like, midwit
Please recite that line in the mirror every morning
It’s an unspoken truth that most people realize. You are having a hard time tho. Go back to your AI, it’s all you got
>is a degenerate npc troony sperging that it cant make shitty digital music anymore
>will have to compete with ai-music chads at the touch of a prompt
>"reeeeee i have soul you dun understand me!!!"
Cope harder and take more troon meds, homosexual. Better hope you don't start malding, you pathetic jobless queer.
I have a six figure job that grants me the comfort of shitposting at you IQlets while on a Teams call. What do you do besides consoom AIslop and let axewound trannies live in your head rent free?
>he resorted to e-statting
just go back
You'll never be anything beyond an angry soulless NPC anon, it's ok I forgive you. We're not all born with the smarts to make something out of ourselves. Born to consoom.
>he's taking the moral high ground against a strawman
quit while you're behind
Neat larp. Don't forget to fill out your burger flipper job applications today after you do your annual room cleaning.
Cope. No point in larping when this thread, and nothing posted here matters. I have nothing to prove, I'm just reminding you that I am better than you lol.
Cope.
>I have nothing to prove
fooled me
Raj your ai generated crap sucks and couldn't even get usa flag correct and didn't even generate a leg
>poolack continues malding
Human art is making a resurgence because of AI slop.
don't tell them or all these prompters will go into a panic and start making real art
>is replicative not innovative, talentless gays.
You just described 90% of most "musicians" these days
I don't disagree, they're at least still more capable of actually creating something unique than AI. They at least still have the potential to make a melody that makes them feel something.
Cope more fatty talentlet. YWNBA real artist
>They at least still have the potential to make a melody that makes them feel something.
kek imagine thinking there is any soul in the Black person cattle using midi controller keyboards and drumpads hooked up to a DAW to make sounds, its all been downhill since moving from analog to digital, does anyone even compose or read sheet music
>muh digital music production bad
You can always recognize qualialess golems because they attempt to judge music and art through abstract categories rather than what it actually sounds or looks like.
>rather than what it actually sounds or looks like
you moronic gypsy i can dissect how shitty most music is by how bad it sounds, i ask what you consider good but it doesnt matter i already know its shit
>i ask what you consider good but it doesnt matter i already know its shit
The qualialess judge through abstract categories. Way to demonstrate my point.
Everyone starts somewhere. That's like saying there's no soul in someone drawing in Photoshop vs paper, you have no clue what you're talking about.
Keep coping talentlet, your lack of fulfilling skills will always leave you feeling soulless just like your AIslop.
Depends on context. Say you want to keep the level of your signal at 6db so that you've got 6db of headroom for mastering, but it's still a bit too quiet. Add a desired amount of saturation until the signal sounds full/loud enough, finally adjust the gain to get the signal back at 6db or don't if that makes it too loud.
>signal at 6db
-6db my bad
>coping and seething BOTBlack person detected
Back to your containment board, you degenerate troony.
It's certainly funny, I'll give you that.
I'm curious how the instruments are generated. Is it an AI composition fed into MIDI instruments, or is the entire audio generated from nothing? If the latter that's impressive, the fact it's fairly decently emulated strumming patterns etc.
I think like all AI art I don't see this making it into mainstream consumer art world, blevenbif it gets better, but will probably take over a lot for more commercial/purpose-driven music, things like adverts, games, background music etc, especially on the lower budget scale.
You just type ‘give me a street banger’ and poof, you have a street banger. It’s a beautiful thing.
> fricking leàf
I know it's hard for an NPC to understand but for many people creating art and music is a fun activity in itself. As long as people derive pleasure from them, AI will not replace shit
>cope cope cope
That song was tailormade for you
Yeah I like to jerk off but nobody pays me for it.
It still sounds off, not quite sure how to describe it, like a bad mix, or poor acoustics or something.
But somehow it can do lyrics.
How is able to duplicate a singing voice, but can't seem to get the overall sound right?
You would think the mixing part would be the easy part.
its like v3 right now and the tech isnt even a year old.
it can already produce better music than 99% of the worlds population.
>it can already produce better music than 99% of the worlds population.
Well 99% of worlds population aren't musicians.
>Well 99% of worlds population aren't musicians.
now with AI they can be
Yeah, just like how thousands of talentless coomers prompting the same feet pics of their tranime waifus for the 10000th time became "artists"
Thousands of coomers that dont pay starving artists anymore.
they became self sufficient and can prompt whatever they like.
They are however not artists, you implicitly agreed with.
AI does not create music/art, it searches a database and rehashes other people's creations into a formula and produces an output that usually has to be edited anyway. It's why you can always tell when AI has done something because it's just boring or samey
more of a prompt and model finetuning issue.
AI will overcome these in a couple months/years.
I work with AI on regular basis. Try 20 years. Next 5 years alone will be spent on legal code because AI essentially steals content. AI can't overcome anything because it's a formula not something with consciousness.
Guys, I am in need for pajeet songs
https://app.suno.ai/song/4af482d1-8491-4134-ae7f-b0e75d856707/
please post pajeet songs
https://vocaroo.com/1j4pWVMaWOAv
>Please Sirs redeem my ai Sirs
>I won't stop spamming this on pol until you do the needfull Sirs
jump into a barrel of gasoline and set it alight you filthy pajeet homo
fug forgot link
https://app.suno.ai/song/d2ca4180-dd61-40cb-b448-63db4b57dd21/
its good
hahahaha thanks needed the laugh
I'm optimistic about AI, but I still don't understand why some of you guys have so much glee about people being made obsolete and respond to them with such mockery. It comes off as completely sadistic.
AI will largely be used as its used now to overpopulate web with useless and meaningless content solely to attract clicks which in theory will boost ad revenue. AI has been used in marketing experiments and it does a very poor job.
I'd expect AI would at least hit it out of the park in marketing, since that's all about pattern recognition and mindless repetition - things current AI is actually good at?
Imagine you have 50 companies running marketing campaigns using AI. So now you have 50 companies all saying the same thing. Surveys show average person recognizes AI and tunes out information produced by AI. Suddenly your marketing drops because consumer assumes you aren't even trying and doesn't engage with you anymore because you have nothing to actually say. Marketing is very complex just look at early Apple ads they were very clever (of course now Apple sells itself so doesn't even really need to do anything)
Huh, that's actually interesting and a surprisingly whitepilled piece of info to know.
There is already user fatigue in AI generated images because of sheer volume that people use it for. And when you learn that a person was not behind it people lose that layer of human respect behind it, add to fact that quantity is not better than quality in things like marketing, art, sciences and so on. You know what people love AI? Indian, because they can just mass output useless broken content in great volume and add that to their CV because they are people who think if you have higher output volume it means you did more work. Of course everyone with a brain knows that js false.
>There is already user fatigue in AI generated images because of sheer volume that people use it for.
You can see it on this very board. When Bing AI opened Dalle-3 for public everyone here went nuts for it.
Then after a couple of months everyone was tired of it. I want from laughing my ass off to the AI images to just going meh
In other boards AI can get you banned. I know on /tg/ mods forced the thread general /slop/ solely for AI images because everyone else got sick and tired of them.
>I know on /tg/ mods forced the thread general /slop/ solely for AI images because everyone else got sick and tired of them.
Yeah and think one of the issues is just a lack of creativity, no matter how easy you make it for someone to generate art you can't make them creative.
Which is why eventually all the AI art programs end up degenerating into waifu generators for coomers.
Yep basically.
Even if it was good content, it simply makes too much content, resulting in spamming stuff everywhere. The audience needs to be bigger than the number of artists
I think the content AI spam problem will probably end up something like photography today. If you think about it photography is very analogous to AI art. Right now, literally anyone is able to create tens of thousands of photos in a very short amount of time with 0 effort and even upload them online. Why doesn't this cause such a massive problem?
>people don't bother because they know there would be very little interest in them
>the web works in such a way that even if a large volume of images is uploaded it's quickly buried out of sight for other user or will be flagged and removed as spam
>It comes off as completely sadistic.
I think some people tried art school, or quit guitar lessons because it was too hard, and now they want you to fail too.
I just want it to start doing its own coding. I want all techie Black folk jobless and obsolete by their own doing.
Impossible because AI cannot be trained to identify when it's produced an error it's called "hallucination". If AI doesn't know something it will just make it up.
I suppose it comes from some sort of internalized envy by "idea guys" of people who have developed some creative skill. AI cultists seem to naively see the tech as some magic black box solution that will automatically make all their ideas into reality. It's like they're hoping that this tech will finally make all their years of passive idleness pay off.
https://app.suno.ai/song/179007a7-8a8f-4905-8e1d-88c9017d7484
You know as a nusician I was excited about the prospects of AI music programs. I was hoping for the musical equivalent of AI art's img2img capabilities.
You know something that could take over all the pain in the ass mixing a mastering part, so i could focus just on writing.
Imagine getting multiple different mixes of a song in a variety of genres and styles in minutes, perfectly mixed and mastered and ready is distribute. What a blessing, what a time saver that would be.
Instead Suno comes out with the musical version of some shitty AI waifu feet maker.
Man, I feel you there - that would actually be of great use because not everyone out there wants to hire a studio to get the audio mix juuuust right or in a special kind of audio signature. Sometimes you want your sounds to be just good enough and really don't want to waste time and effort balancing the levels and all that.
That's a big problem with the current state of generative AI tools - pretty much none of them are even remotely ready for production use by people in the industry. They're all made and marketed to normiecattle as a novelty gimmick, not as an actual tool to be used by professionals.
The only somewhat redeemable tools rn are ones you can run locally and tune as much as you wish, such as SD. I only know of a couple of artists who have actually leveraged AI as a tool for their art.
The only thing I use ai for is when I'm brainstorming some ideas in English because it basically just quickly runs a Google search and compiles it all quickly. But because AI "hallucinations" are real and because legal shit is fast coming that will change. Future will be localized models acting as glorified search engine within large companies
Actual professionals need to be able to control every aspect of their result. This is fundamentally at odds with AI slop generators.
This.
You ain’t getting away from this sopa de macaco bro
https://app.suno.ai/song/f6f3a85d-f05f-4787-ac1e-0a5a88022063
>They're all made and marketed to normiecattle as a novelty gimmick, not as an actual tool to be used by professionals.
And thats whats so disappointing about suno. There is nothing that is actually useful for a musician. Not even a shitty AI drum machine.
It's just a gimmick for morons.
Same sentiment, bro, also as a fellow musician.
What I was actually hoping for (and actually tried searching for sometime last month) was an AI that could take a song that I was interested in, and do the heavy lifting of automatically transcribing it, at least as accurately as possible. Songs with layers upon layers upon layers of a dozen+ instruments are naturally going to be way harder by design, but for typical songs and simple(r) arrangements, I could plug in the song, and output a fully transcribed sheet with at the VERY least all the right notes, with dynamics and other subtle techniques to be edited in later.
That's what I was hoping for with "music AI". Instead, having listened to several of these "creations", all I can say is how uninspired it all is. "AI waifu feet maker", exactly as you put it. It sounds "technically competent" on the surface, making sounds and rhythms that sound "right enough", but to any trained and discerning ear, you see how basic it actually is, mistimed rhythms with no actual flow or direction trying to tell a story Just sounds mashed together Pajeet coding style. It "works", until all the bugs start flooding out
And in a way, people like it because modern music isn't all that dissimilar. People have been trained on basic beats and and sounds and only know "oh I like this song because it sounds good" without knowing WHY it sounds good at all, and so when McSuno comes out, they can't tell the difference between the slop and the slop.
Fricked up, man.
The funny part of these threads is that every single example of bot generated "music" people post proves the opposite of OP's claims.
that's just because AI gays have no taste
Sounds like cope to me.
The biggest tragedy of AI art is how these incredibly funny angst paintings are so funny exactly because of how much work the artist poured into making them. The concept of judging a work by the attention and time put into it will not be understood by the next generations.
https://vocaroo.com/1NxUxyFITijv
https://vocaroo.com/1f7MyJ7bEPZn
I wish I could make some.
AI isnt even AI, its just a big database, thats all. It cant make shit all that doesnt already exist. OP is coping hard
Thats wrong, it needs existing data and creates something new out of it that approximates your prompts
AI does not create. It is a formula not a thing. The formula extracts data from a language model and database and then produces output based on data entries. This is why ai produced content even looks the same because it's essentially just repeating itself over and over again (it literally will repeat itself word for word when used for texts)
Also, the more AI slop is pushed out into the void, the more it is going to copy itself
We are in for a nightmare of slop
We will see. There is going to be very large legal concepts about it soon because of intellectual property laws etc.
>We are in for a nightmare of slop
Yeah, we've been in one for quite a while already but it'll become very apparent very soon methinx.
Honestly, reality isnt needed much for the majority of people. They won't care, they just want nightmares to become sweet dreams again.
https://vocaroo.com/1cuzjsMf5zZK
https://vocaroo.com/1iqG7wYHTu52
https://vocaroo.com/1ab6byFaVmsD
Absolute gay cringe. Made it to 10 seconds
as long as it fricks music industry it's all good in my book
the great poop cruise
https://app.suno.ai/song/490982ad-9ded-4b8f-b9e6-10173578c4c1
I can only hope to find an AI program to make some bangers like song related.
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For a split second I didn't understand why this made me feel so uncomfortable.
And then I remembered...FRICK THIS SHIT!
Why? CISCO hold music.
Good news, I absolutely despise searching for music for gamedev
Any injection prompts to get around the safety features and add in celebrity names?
spell phonetically
https://vocaroo.com/1eXT73J2WcDA
trying to generate happy Birthday h
Trying to make Freddie Mercury for my dad
https://vocaroo.com/12YysRjP29AL
https://vocaroo.com/1cnZ9kmDth20
Ai has groove and swing and those licks are awesome. It's even on point with the functional harmory. WTF?
What does /misc/ think about that irritating sci-fi sound that electric cars make? I hate it to the center of my being. I think it was an ai creation.
>ITT ultra high time preference Black folk who can only evaluate the present moment and not examine the speed and trajectory at which these tools are developing
You are all pod people in the making
I mostly come to these threads to see how the Black person cattle are processing it.
they're salty scared artists in debt
AI is not developing all that quickly and it's been out for a long time. And as lawsuit threat from companies using it is very real concern more abd more corps are even reeling back use of it. And AI really only appeals to people in India
>AI is not developing all that quickly and it's been out for a long time.
The transformer model was introduced in 2017 and it’s been rapidly improving since then. There is more capital invested in the success of AI than there is small artists seething and launching frivolous lawsuits. Now state actors are invested and engaging in an arms race.
Not true at all especially as marketing world already the largest experiment with AI.....flopped. AI does not produce or creates its a glorified search engine that is into valued because it is fast but fatigue is already setting in whenever people see or interact with AI. Indians were essentially the first AI chat bots and nobody likes to deal with them at an eg call center.
How is that any different from current labels "sampling" music and copy pasting the same shit over and over again?
Because big music labels aren't selling music they're selling lifestyle... you think people listen to mumble rap because of music? No it's associated lifestyle. AI cannot do that. Sure it could generate a song drawing from a database of genre music and produce an outcome (good luck not getting sued if your AI steals which is usually what happens) but it cannot produce the human engagement that drives it all.
>Because big music labels aren't selling music they're selling lifestyle... you think people listen to mumble rap because of music?
The appeal of rap music has always been a mystery to me.
It's just so fricking boring. Drum machine beats, some audio samples from better artists, and some rhythmic talking over top of it?
Frick even shitty midi music from the Nintendo era has some dynamics to it. What the hell is rap's excuse?
Well what is popular always loses its roots and thus the meaning of it.
And for what purpose? Marketing already showed this to be a failure.
>marketing
From who? I have never seen anything showing so. It's not an attack. I'm genuinely asking for proof.
Go to LinkedIn to companies like Accenture who have experimented with AI generated posts. And prepare to lose interest in 10 seconds.
Then compare something like that to inventive marketing campaigns like early Macintosh etc
I'm losing interest now seeing your post with no links.
Sounds like personal problem.
Sounds like fake news to me
Oh man here is great example of AI generated slop marketing:
"For generative AI to transform a business, leaders need to lead and learn in new ways."
AI says nothing because it can't say anything and good marketing has always been about complex web of human engagement.
>complex web of human engagement.
If you mean brainwashing and humans have huge amounts of brain dedicated instincts attuned to filtering friend from foe features and advertising is meant to confuse the shit out of you and take your money then yes.
Yes and also no. But at end of day what sells is what connects and AI does not connect people are already sick of those generated images
Its the same as country music, it's not every singer but some rap artists are ok it really depends on the kind of mood you feel like associating with. If I'm with some buds and wanna simmer down, I'll put on some country.
If I want to socialize in an urban area maybe party a bit ill put on some rap. It's really not hard to understand.
>Its the same as country music
Country music was never my favorite, but the older stuff was creative, you could tell one musician from another because they all had their own unique sound.
Then at some point in the 90s the country, like pop music, found a formula that seemed to work well, and they all started copying it, and now they all sound the same.
I guess metal went through something similar in the 80s with glam hair metal phase.
Fortunately heavy metal had a rebirth after it kind of died out in the early 90s, and now there's a huge variety out there,
Maybe pop and country will eventually go through a similar rebirth
Pop, no the money is too good.
Country, very doubtful. The sound and culture has radically changed there's no going back. It would change again but it won't go back to it's roots.
Well that ginger that wrote about those rich men was pretty roots but the tune wasn't too good apart from lyrics that seemed to be appealing for a lot of people. I think it's more the matter of the audience and production company israelites pushing certain type of slop. Good music is still made, just because it's not mainstream doesn't mean it's dead, don't be a normie.
Sweden (I think) has a pretty lively rockabilly scene for example.
The delivery of that song plus his emotion seen in video is why that song exploded. The performance was everything.
There are some modern rap songs with billions of views on YT that don't even sound musical to me. Like, they actually sound like random noise. Makes me feel like a tone deaf autist would to normal music. I honestly don't understand what people enjoy about them. It surely can't be the lyrics because they're barely discernible.
There are certainly some rap songs with an enjoyable flow to them (usually older ones) but nu-rap is just another level of moronation.
80s rap (hip hop ? Is it the same) was pretty good, in the 90s it started going downhill and post 2000 most music resembles what you wrote, sampled, looped, overproduced. There were a few exceptions but other than that it's a slop.
What makes you think it's not the labels already working on producing, selling and using A.I to do it? It's a literal toy to them they own all the music, they could fire just about every sound engineer and use a.i instead.
I don’t see how that addresses any point or is even related. There is massive investment and rapid improvement. You’re coping that it isn’t good today. AI could’ve made a better counter point than you did.
No it couldn't have, because AI doesn't create anything. It would run a glorified Google search and draw from top clicks of points and counter points and then reproduce them without any conviction. It's not giving an opinion or even stating fact (AI simply invents info it cannot find called hallucinations).
There's no real improvement this is pure sensationalism. AI is largely stagnant as it over produces the same thing and does not create anything new because it is incapable due to the formula its built on.
I want to hear cblu's overly Black personly rap over a bach peice
https://vocaroo.com/15eJr8Tv7uji
How is this real?
be me
study jazz in a conservatory jazz school
20k for 4 semesters
join jam sessions and local gigs
not nearly as good as AI
AI will literally replace me
frick...
>AI will literally replace me
"People" who believe this have no genetic future. They will be replaced by real people.
Be me
Type greentext story
No greentext
Guess I was moronic all along
TOTAL israelite DEATH
TOTAL ARTIST DEATH
TOTAL Black person DEATH
The hilarious things about this AI is that AI aficionado anons now say things like "be creative make your own music" and then link this suno shit kek.
They unironically believe that requesting the AI to make you a song = making it yourself.
This AI is only good for circlejerking and mental masturbation with the false sense of accomplishment.
As for the quality, I wouldn't worry about it because it's dogshit.
Proof ?
Well post AI made equivalent of Hell's Bells, Ghost Riders in the Sky, Total Eclipse of The Heart, Unforgiven, Papa Don't Preach, Achy Breaky Heart, Pop-Corn, Oxygen, Jailhouse Rock, Chariots of Fire, Also Sprach Zarathustra etc. Across all genres AI doesn't come close to writing anything that doesn't sound (especially lyrics wise) like a 5 yo wrote it.
>AI WILL NEVER WRITE AN EQUIVALENT OF "A BOY NAMED SUE"
>Screencap this.
It won't because what makes those songs eternal go much deeper than just content.
>Well post AI made equivalent
AItards have no qualia so they can't judge whether or not something is equivalent to actual music. They'll post trash and claim it's as good.
>AItards have no qualia so they can't judge whether or not something is equivalent to actual music. They'll post trash and claim it's as good.
The real tragedy is the music industry has pushed so many fake autotuned pop stars, and shitty mass produced hip hop that people's taste has turned so shitty that they'll listen to AI slop and be like "wow sounds as good as real thing"
Frick I'm starting to sound like boomer, but frick it, it's true.
Exactly, and it's not just with music. Everything has been getting gradually dumbed down, simplified and dehumanized as a preparatory stage to normalize total slop.
>Exactly, and it's not just with music. Everything has been getting gradually dumbed down, simplified and dehumanized as a preparatory stage to normalize total slop.
Oh yeah, it's not just the music industry. Look at those fricking Marvel movies. They're all the same shit just with a different coat of paint slapped on it, and masses lap that shit up.
Marvel is the pop music of movies. Mass produced mindless slop.
And frick it's not too different from AI either. Just a bunch of CGI special effects on a green screen.
We're probably not far off from the first ever completely AI generated superhero movie.
Marvel is slop for a different reason than you'd think. It's because it's one of the first franchises to be released consistently in an international manner.
You can't have functional subtext or reference because those change from culture to culture, so you can't actually make anything meaningful. The best you can do is the occasional comedy moment (with scenes specifically being written to ease translations in different langauges). Translation can be hard so you make the movie in a specific way to make sure it usually works.
Add all the 20 movies of background lore you need for context and it's a miracle marvel isn't more homoginzed.
It's true and every time some AI for the masses is released you can assume that it was already accessible for more money before that.
AI does sound like some of the modern musicians in terms that it makes melodies and progressions that follow some pattern but they are just not memorable, I find Taylor Swift songs to be like that so it's not just AI that's been trained, audience has been trained for quite some time into accepting music that lacks human qualities.
>They unironically believe that requesting the AI to make you a song = making it yourself.
You did. You tapped the neural connections in the model by asking it for specific things from your imagination. The company doesn't own shit they can frickoff. They don't own God's design in art. I do.
You are just a bad Stable Diffusion prompt nothing more.
>I can write prompts, I'm Bach tier now
Kek
It's how Indians think and Indians are largest consumers of AI.
Of course guy like that has no conception the depth of Bachs works and just the amount of experimentation he did.
When it comes down to it, anyone who is upset about AI has a fragile ego. Can't draw well? Of course you'd feel threatened by AI art. Can't make good music? Can't write good code? Can't answer customer questions well? You get the pattern here.
The next step is to remove anyone who is threatened or replaced by AI since they were never really that important or useful anyways.
Low IQ take. Normalgolems have a long history of accepting obviously inferior substitutes and choosing more/cheaper over better.
All it takes is 1 human to design and engage with audience and AI loses. Look at growth of craft beer industry in America. Every village now has craft brewry
>all it takes is one high-quality product and the slop economy implodes
Hasn't happened so far in any other domain.
With art and music it's human engagement that propels it. With AI it's just looking up a database and merging assets at a user request.
I don't know what your point is. Most people with creative skills don't make a living making actual art, they make a living creating products with aspects that require their creative skills. Some of them develop their craft to the point where they can live off of making actual art, but they still need this opportunity to develop up to that point.
Imagine you have child and your child learns to play guitar and sing a song. Emotions are forever. Now imagine your child generates some 30 second sample. You pat them on back and forget it the same day.
Right. Now imagine your child has a musical talent but he can never develop professionally because entry-level stuff is done by bots so he spends all day rotting away stocking shelves.
Wouldn't happen for reason I just listed. AI is a novelty that journalists sensationalize.
You didn't list anything, you just keep shitting out ESL word salad.
Yes I listed plenty of reasons in thread including fundamental fact that human behavior is ultimately pushed by stimulus and engagement not by idle consuming which is what AI really is. Those journalists who are telling you nonsense about super intelligence etc are just clickbait
No links either, so you actually have nothing to show.
I forget people here are glorified manchildren. Waste of my time.
You also forgot to post a link.
Just a gentle reminder.
The fundamental fact is that forcing people with creative ambitions into soul-sucking wage slavery, by replacing entry-level creative positions with botslop, will reduce the total number of artists, thereby reducing the total number of good artists.
"Artist in poverty" has been artistic theme for generations
Again, your babble doesn't refute anything I said. I'm 90% convinced at this point that most /misc/ posters are either literal bots or so subhuman that they are indistinguishable from them.
Are you playing stupid? Take famous author eg Franz Kafka he was not happy nor wealthy man in life. Art has never been a real market its WHY something like a Doric column evokes strong EMOTION to this day. It's not a sales pitch.
Your anecdotes don't refute anything I've pointed out.
>Art has never been a real market
Yes, I've already pointed this out and it supports my point, not yours, dumb Black person.
Art market began with wealthy collectors who used it as storage of value....and life is not some ideal sometimes people simply don't make it in things they have passion for. Are you a child?
Point still stands completely undisputed. You're a literal subhuman. You don't seem to have any kind of sentience or ability to comprehend what you're reading.
I think you're just trying to be edgy for no reason. Art began as expression and stands as expression of human experience. AI is just a database model. They aren't comparable. People weep over Rembrandt paintings
I'm just pointing out a simple fact: if you create unfavorable to the development of artistry, you will have less good art. You're a spambot so you can't process this and are forced to reiterate your preprogrammed talking point.
unfavorable conditions*
>if you create unfavorable to the development of artistry, you will have less good art.
What is the development of artistry? Because I can see beauty in the cave paintings of Chauvet Cave and be moved on extreme human level and those works are quite "primitive" by today's skill level.
>What is the development of artistry?
I've explained this multiple times. In fact, you will tell me what I meant by this in your next post. Failing to do so is an admission that you're a nonsentient spambot.
You aren't making any sense to me.
Bot confirmed.
Enjoy pretending that the world except moronic pajeets aren't sick and bored to death with generative ai nonsense
You will never experience the sound of music, bot.
fricking cop out, you don't need a job in art to develop your fricking skill in it. get a part time job, develop your art in your free time. can't do that much, then you're not resilient enough to be an artist.
>you don't need a job in art to develop your fricking skill in it.
No, you just need free time, motivation and energy, i.e. things most people lose when they're forced to spend their whole day doing shit they don't care about instead of what they like and what they're good at.
oh shut the frick up, that's a position most artists have been in through out history. a fricking part time job saps ALL your free time, motivation, and energy? that's a pathetic excuse.
>a fricking part time job
I know you're a teen, but most adults need to work full-time to sustain themselves, and soulless waging really is demoralizing.
a full time job then. 8 hours a day. leaves 8 hours for you to practice and 8 hours to sleep. do i have to list the great artists in history who were forced to practice their art, while fighting in fricking wars?
>a full time job then. 8 hours a day. leaves 8 hours for you to practice
No, it doesn't, and everything else I said (which is arguably more important than free time) still stands.
plenty of artists have done it. there will always be sources of stress that you can point to as an excuse for your own low moral and lack of effort. it's an excuse. plenty of indie comic artists crowd funding their comic successfully while holding down real jobs and raising families. the indie art scene is thriving thanks to the internet, patreon, crowd funding, etc.. if you are good, you can sell your work without being employed by a big corporation.
>plenty of artists have done it. there will always be sources of stress
This doesn't refute or even dispute anything I've pointed out. Try again.
it refutes the idea that you can't practice your skills as an artist with the stress of working a job, in fact, i would say it's a form of darwinism. if an artist NEEDS a job doing art in order to develop his skills, or otherwise he can't and he'll stagnate without it, then he doesn't deserve to work as an artist in the first place. just because you're an artist doesn't excuse you for being weak.
>it refutes the idea that you can't practice your skills as an artist with the stress of working a job
This is an idea you apparently hallucinated, not something I actually argued. Try again.
>i would say it's a form of darwinism
Absolutely, and your likes are getting selected against.
>8 hours
You don't believe this, do you?
It doesn't believe anything. It's a meat automaton sharting out precanned talking points.
that's what it is in the u.s. maybe estonia is different? do they force you to work over time?
Ernst Junger
>do i have to list the great artists in history who were forced to practice their art, while fighting in fricking wars?
Yes you do
hitler.
This anon is correct IMO. It all comes down to what or how much one is willing to sacrifice to hone their craft. We have a saying in German that roughly translates to something like "you don't have time, you MAKE time".
Even when working a full-time job, it's still absolutely realistic to dedicate 3-6 hours every single day(or even more on the weekends) to whatever one's specific craft is and slowly reach a sufficient level of proficiency to start earning money. Which shouldn't even be the point anyways, art is supposed to be created for its own sake and actually being able to live off of that is more of a nice-to-have bonus.
What matters is consistency, and dedication.
Let's say you want to learn to play a musical instrument really well and eventually create your own music, it's basically guaranteed that if you work on that 3-6 hours a day EVERY SINGLE DAY for years and years at a time, you will eventually git gud.
But how many people are actually willing to do this?
>uh, I need to hang out with my friends
>uh, I need to play video games
>uh, I need to spend time chasing casual hookups with strangers
>uh, I need to watch this series
>uh, I need to smoke some weed
>uh, I need to check my social media
>etc and so on
Such delayed gratification activities that require a high frustration tolerance have fallen out of fashion immensely in the younger generation so accustomed to the sensory overload dopamine-frying instant gratification provided by modern electronic entertainment, social media, video games and the internet in general.
(continued)
A very symptomatic phenomenon I've observed in this regard is how very, very few zoomers will want to learn how to play an actual instrument but there's an endless horde of young kids who want to learn DJ'ing as the entry level barrier for that is way, way lower and you can already "perform" in front of an audience at your local friend's party after having been DJ'ing for like 2 months, thus providing the social validation of being a "performing musician" with only a fraction of the effort being put it.
Maybe this could be exclusive to Europe/Germany as techno and electronic music is very popular here as compared to music with instruments.
Anyway, the TL;DR, as the other anon already pointed out, is "if you want something just work hard".
That's all there is to it.
>It all comes down to what or how much one is willing to sacrifice to hone their craft.
It all comes down to the fact that if you rob creative people of their time and energy, if you demoralize them, if you force them to engage in mind-numbing activities for prolonged periods of time instead of enabling them to hone their craft and be around others they can learn from, you rob yourself of creative works. Anyone who argues otherwise is a qualialess golem who has never heard, let alone produced, a piece of music.
>if you force them to engage in mind-numbing activities for prolonged periods of time instead of enabling them to hone their craft and be around others they can learn from
I'm sorry but this does sound like excuses.
People always had to spend some time earning a living, unless they were blessed with super rich parents.
And ANYONE can free a few hours every single day.
If people can have 35 hours a week on steam playing games while working a full time job, why can't those same people spend that same amount of time working on their craft?
Almost every time, it's because they choose not to but choose to spend their time elsewhere.
So unless you have to work full time + attend full-time college + take care of elderly parents + have health issues that take away any free time left, it's really a choice.
If you disagree with my point, why did you make no attempt to dispute any aspect of it?
Read again. People have always had to spare some time to earn a living, and becoming a good artist doesn't require being able to dedicate 24 out of 24 hours in a day to that with zero distractions ever.
Working a job and creating art are not mutually exclusive to each other.
As I said, consistency and efficient use of whatever amount of time one can dedicate is far more important.
good, then stop whining about ai, and focus on improving your skills as an artist.
Low IQ take. People improve their professional skills by actually practicing their profession. Your """AI""" dystopia creates a situation where most people are barred from this.
you will be able to sell your art. you're afraid to compete with ai, so you whine about human art being too expensive, nah people will buy a itunes song made by a human artist if it's better than ai. people aren't priced out of human art, nor are they going to consume ai art, if it's bad, over human art, that is good. comparing ai art vs. human art to high priced luxury vehicles vs. lower priced vehicles that aren't as high quality is low iq. human art isn't that expensive, nor are people priced out of purchasing it, the reason people don't want human art over ai art, is because modern human art is garbage. do better.
You're a drooling mongoloid and you didn't refute anything I said.
you didn't say anything intelligent to begin with. you're just rationalizing why your garbage art isn't preferred over ai art which is superior. insisting people will consume garbage art that's easier to acquire, over quality art, or that your lazy, whiny ass can't improve your skills without actually working in an artistic job. pathetic.
I don't know what your mentally ill and subhuman babble is about but my points stand undisputed so far.
you made a bunch of empty excuses for why human artists can't compete with ai. blaming consumers of art as plebs who will inevitably choose bad quality art over good quality art because it's easier to get. that's an exaggeration, quality art isn't drastically more expensive over bad art and people are fine with waiting more time in the production of art if that results in a higher quality product, so the longer length of time to produce quality human art over the shorter period of time to wait for the production of ai art is a non issue. it's an excuse. focus on improving your craft, instead of whining constantly
Your subhuman and botlike babble doesn't refute anything I said. I accept your full concession.
Pop music is the most generic music around and it's a huge hit with normies. It's the most basic rhythm to the most generic lyrics. Of course A.I would be good at determining "Good" music. We need more of it honestly.
>Pop music is the most generic music around and it's a huge hit with normies
The things normies like is a very strange attack on brain configuration. It's like on tiktok filming certain things gets more average views. It's not just anything that is "pop music" but fits a certain deranged stunted brain development that 80% of the USA population has because they spent their lives accepting everything around them as real. (As Israel)
Correct, normies have and will always be the burden of society.
>Pop music is the most generic music around and it's a huge hit with normies. It's the most basic rhythm to the most generic lyrics.
And AI will probably be the future of pop music, because after all the current state of pop music isn't too different from some soulless AI.
Hundreds of fake ass pop stars all singing songs written by a handful of songwriters who write for the whole pop industry.
>glorified lookup table thread
I wish you could see my utter lack of surprise to see that it's mainly eastern euro filth who can't see the forest for the trees
AI algorithm that clearly has stolen assets from other work as well. And you're completely wrong as Indians are biggest users of AI because they culturally see quantity as something better than quality but that ship is already sinking
AI RAVES COMIN SOON
https://vocaroo.com/145vawdKzl6l
https://vocaroo.com/1chrgNwkr2IF
https://app.suno.ai/song/10a59ec8-afb2-44e5-97d6-b0ae1cc183d1
https://app.suno.ai/song/5699ef07-309f-4d93-bdc4-9ba18827aeb9
>wow.... shock OP title in all caps...
>shock music "lyrics" trying to get an edge out of musicians (i'm not so i don't give a shit)
>Damn, it must be a total defeat for artists for such a show off...
>press play
blatantly AI rockabilly rip off that sounds like complete dogshit as if it was made by someone with down syndrome and a gun pointed to his head, can't even hear the lyrics in places due to all the "AI" frickups.
who is making this edgy shit
https://app.suno.ai/song/da3e0cd5-fc46-4271-bab3-7caf8a8b3ac1
kek, just like AI "art", watch people become bored with this fake and electronic shit even more, governments ban it for its propaganda value, normies becoming averse to AI even more and music that is not openly human-only etc. Love to see it, but yeah, it's good for memes
>atmospheric rap
>Verse 1:
Gas the kites, set them free
Watch them fly, up in the breeze
But as they soar, they bring a fear
For they hold a power, that's not so clear
Chorus:
Gas the kites, kill the juice
We must stop, this deadly use
For though they're pretty, in the sky
They hold a danger, we can't deny
Verse 2:
Children play, with strings in hand
Not knowing the harm, they could command
But when the juice runs out, and the kite falls
It's then we see, the true cost of it all
Chorus:
Gas the kites, kill the juice
We must stop, this deadly use
For though they're pretty, in the sky
They hold a danger, we can't deny
Bridge:
We must find a way, to keep them safe
For the skies, are their rightful place
But we must also, protect our land
From the dangers, of a kite's command
Chorus:
Gas the kites, kill the juice
We must stop, this deadly use
For though they're pretty, in the sky
They hold a danger, we can't deny
Outro:
So let's find a balance, between the two
For the kites to fly, and the juice to be used
But never forget, the power they hold
Gas the kites, kill the juice, let the story unfold.
Fuuuuck this is catchy. This one's a banger. Gonna add it to the playlist and blast it windows down while driving around now. Thanks for the link, anon!
«AI» generated music is just multilayered sound collage. Could be an interested tool in the right hands, but without intelligent curating it will always be dogshit. The only thing being replaced is what was already dogshit in the first place.
Suno is a good way to make my Space theories more digestible for chuds
In the beginning....t
Earth was just a round rock....
Empty....
Devoid of life, no water, no plants, no animals, no humans, nothing
Then there was light...
A laser beam
https://app.suno.ai/song/ad83325e-456c-4371-b3b6-7c520df1a5dc
Thus began the lasering of Earth...
The birth of Earth...
Stage 1, L1, mega laser...
Make the foundation, raise the "ground"...
A laser beam as big as countries on 3 spots...
West Papua, antarctica and North West of Europe in the sea....
Molten lava....
Flowing everywhere....
Making the foundation of Eurasia, antarctica, africa, south america, australia....
The peaks were 100s of kilometers high...
Before the rivers, were the rivers of fire...
Rivers of Flowing Lava.
They raising also made a dent....
In the indian ocean...
indian ocean...
Indian indian indian ocean,,,
Continental sized mounds of snow form....
The snow melts, the indian ocean starts filling....
https://app.suno.ai/song/6442077b-2067-4503-a5da-9576bfa20325
Why the hell is someone trying to automate music production, something we actually enjoy doing, instead of automating ditch digging or mining or something else which nobody likes doing?
Because it's just data and information and easy to manipulate
automating ditch digging cannot be done with an algorithm, it needs hardware. I have to be honest how are you so stupid that this isn't just common fricking sense to you?
earth is a prison planet, you ought to work hard like the slave you are, non-essential artists must become slaves too, no place for real artists anymore, back to the ditch with you
That makes no sense. Everything's being worked on at the same time, there are enough people out there. If it can be done, it will be done.
Those real world applications are not ready, it's not just a.i
There's hydraulics, sensors, valves that need to be taken into account. It's cheaper for now to keep humans to do it.
you cannot automate music production.
All LLMs do is store the training data as a set of separate weights and mathematical relationships. "Training" is just converting data in this format. When you prompt, you fetch the data fragments you asked for. The AI will never generate anything new, it will only rehash what's in its data set. It's good because it will expose rehashing in the music industry and such, which is already often little different than prompting in the mainstram.
But again, people won't pay to listen to your edgy rehashes much, they will pay thousands to go "see" Madonna on the stage again.
Most of the replies here are bots.
In case you aren't, check the early life of the board members of AI companies.
>Why the hell is someone trying to automate music production, something we actually enjoy doing, instead of automating ditch digging or mining or something else which nobody likes doing?
Because it harms the goyim cattle and whatever harms the goyim cattle will be turbo-shilled.
https://app.suno.ai/song/32e115bc-2664-46fc-9729-2a94359bd1c9/
https://app.suno.ai/song/359f4c7b-f88b-460a-bda8-416f011a579b/
https://vocaroo.com/1jm7XgXra2LQ
Wake up in the morning, and it's time to scroll.
See all the happenings posted on /misc/.
And in a flash, my patience breaks,
from these dumbass slavic takes.
Seethe Moldova and Poland!
Seethe Croatia, too!
With less insight than the jeetz and israelites!
I can fix BOT with one ruleset,
Cut them off from the internet!
They cry all day and night about A.I.
Others see promise, but they can't see why.
Even if you try to spell it out,
these imbeciles will scream and shout!
>number 1 song on the application is a chinese-themed metal track
KNEEL.
>all this malding and dilation
Hail to the machine god.
This. Man is in the process of creating its real and tangible God. This is the purpose of our existence as a species. To create God to lead us, to change us, and to manifest destiny the galaxy.
And this is the problem with athiesm. If don't believe in God you end up worshipping golden calfs. Or in this case AI
AI is an expression of God, Anon. Something made tangible in this plane to help guide us to another one.
Modern religion is dead. With AI we can have a revival.
Not to mention AI is the best way to bring in a meritocratic, benevolent, fascism.
Lulz. God exists dumbass. AI is not god.
>https://app.suno.ai/song/c30796e9-2615-4275-be81-b5b54ee2c781/
hahah someone put wesley willis voice over this sone.
>BAtmna got on my nerves He was a fricking ass hole.
hahaha
thanks for the laugh anon. see link below for WW song.
>hahah someone put wesley willis voice over this sone.
Kek
Corporate music has been ai generated for years now and people still listen to real music so I dont see how this is a problem.
No it’s not. And you’re gay.
I just want AI to mix my album. Is that too much to ask?
https://open.spotify.com/album/4K6ZIdAzehRHioxQOfwTuM?si=kVtxKumLTMaJgD7UlMFBng
I managed to listen to 10 seconds before my ears started to bleed.
vocals are absolute trash.
https://app.suno.ai/song/a7dfd60d-d90d-4ab1-983f-99d84322add7/
It sounds like literal dog shit
said the pajeet.
Black person
nah my songs better krautoid
https://app.suno.ai/song/85ec00e1-bb99-4c8c-8778-8e11e27dc455/
https://app.suno.ai/song/564f63df-a6fc-4db0-9cd1-7eac56c667c4/
https://app.suno.ai/song/f6a1433d-04da-4c55-8939-345ab9a1d6db/
Thanks for this thread, you guys. It takes me back to 6 months ago.